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Thompson Trail #629 - 32 members in 108 triplogs have rated this an average 4.7 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Aug 28 2025
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63 male
 Joined Apr 02 2005
 Mesa, AZ
Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 28 2025
Tortoise_HikerTriplogs 3,652
Hiking5.50 Miles 443 AEG
Hiking5.50 Miles   2 Hrs   54 Mns   1.90 mph
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I got an urge to do this hike. I have a sister in the Show Low area so I figured we could do lunch afterwards to get more for the drive. :D I got to the trailhead a little before 8:00am. I believe it was around 60-70 degrees. One car pulled in right after I did. The trail was in the normal shape. Not as muddy as I thought it would be. Just the normal wet areas. There is one spot towards the turn around were you hear water coming off the hillside. It was running a little more than last time. not sure if that is a spring. :-k Some flowers here and there, butterflies, a couple fungi, and one mushroom being hauled off by a squirrel! :o Sunny at first with clouds rolling in towards the end of the hike. The one person that pulled in behind me passed me on the way in. I saw 10 more hikers and 4 dogs on the hike out. Always enjoy this one!! Grabbed some food with my sister and brother in law and ate it at Show Low lake. The lake looked a little low. Drove up through Payson and back through Salt River Canyon to mix it up a little! It was a very enjoyable outing!
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Aug 23 2025
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Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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ScaredyCatTriplogs 204
Hiking5.19 Miles 377 AEG
Hiking5.19 Miles   2 Hrs   48 Mns   2.49 mph
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Fabulous and beautiful hike. My 3rd time here. Chilled at the water on the way back. With a late start, we decided not to go any further. Bigger plans for tomorrow...
 
Aug 17 2025
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62 male
 Joined Dec 02 2014
 Mesa, AZ
Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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adillingTriplogs 402
Hiking6.32 Miles 446 AEG
Hiking6.32 Miles   5 Hrs   21 Mns   1.39 mph
446 ft AEG      49 Mns Break
 
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Ahh, the Thompson Trail. After years of wanting to hit this one, I finally got my chance this past weekend. My expectations were very high, especially after enjoying the less touted Government Springs Trail the day before.

We arrived about 7am to cool and crispy air with light cloud cover and a mostly empty trailhead. My lovely wife, Lynne, decided to join in on this one as I assured her it was an “easy” one.

The first section is an old road that eventually drops down to the trail along the stream. The White Mountain magic started quickly. The first fish dam was nothing much to write home about, but the second one was really nice. This trail is an open valley with hills on both sides. The creek meanders and the beautiful sentinels of fir and pine dot the Creekside. There are open meadows, and we hit the flower season just in time as all sorts of flowers were blooming.

There was more up and down than I expected and after a rocky little bypass about 1.5 miles in, Lynne opted to stay at the first little camping area we came across. I set her up with her new hiking stool, loaded her up with water and snacks, and my buddy Jackson and I (and his two blood thirsty mountain chihuahuas) continued on.

There were a few minor tree fall obstacles to get over, but the trail was really defined and easy to follow. We started seeing more and more hikers as we continued down towards the junction with the West Fork Loop Trail. A few more campsites, with a big group of backpackers. The creek side would give way to meadows and then back to the creek side.

We made it to the end and started back. We saw a bunch of hikers going back. Lots of families, older folks (like me), and lots of young people, many with doggies.

We made it back to Camp Lynne and she said her little oasis was like a weigh station of the trail as everyone stopped in at the little shady area she had staked out. We hiked back to the trailhead. Lynne’s knees were bothering her, so we took it slowly. No rush when you are in such an idyllic setting.

The trailhead was completely full and there was lots of parking was all along the road. More people starting out as we came back.

I really enjoyed this hike. It lived up to the hype. It’s not the most beautiful hike in Arizona, but it is a truly stunning manifestation of the White Mountains. I have been fortunate these past couple of years to explore this area. It reminds me of my youth growing up in Colorado. We will be back for sure.
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Aug 19 2024
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63 male
 Joined Apr 02 2005
 Mesa, AZ
Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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Tortoise_HikerTriplogs 3,652
Hiking5.40 Miles 380 AEG
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I took my cousin Sandra out to do a hike. She lives in ShowLow now and I thought I would show her a trail I like in the area. We passed a group at the first dam but saw no one else until the way back with a couple here and there. Always enjoy this area! A few mushrooms and flowers although a lot of flowers have lost some petals. Love the flow of the river through the area although the bushes are growing and taking away some of the longer views of it. We had nice temps with a few clouds but no rain. The trail was wet from rain the day before. An enjoyable outing!
Saw a few Elk and Deer on the drive along with a solo Antelope. Met up with my sister and brother in law for lunch and a visit before heading home. Good times! :y:
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Aug 16 2024
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77 male
 Joined Sep 09 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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Sun_RayTriplogs 1,238
Hiking2.82 Miles 137 AEG
Hiking2.82 Miles   1 Hour   30 Mns   2.38 mph
137 ft AEG      19 Mns Break
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Spending a few days each summer for a break is becoming a thing along with doing this beautiful hike. Over the last few years my knee replacements and cardiac issues has greatly limited my hiking. While Judy and I did a short out/back I was happy with how I felt at 8000 feet.

Had a 8:45 AM start with 6 cars in the TH lot and 19 when we finished. Three downed trees we had to go over.

Hope I can do this hike again next year.
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Aug 04 2024
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Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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ScaredyCatTriplogs 204
Hiking12.70 Miles 1,309 AEG
Hiking12.70 Miles   5 Hrs   15 Mns   2.66 mph
1,309 ft AEG      28 Mns Break
 
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Had been a long time since getting to this trail. Shocked there aren't more people considering the beauty and low difficulty. Was planning Baldy for this day but the group voted for this instead. Can't blame them.

We then started the west fork loop trail but ended up on another trail that wasn't on either map I had. Off trail back to loop. Was nearly back before resistance was raised and we turned around.

Just two others made the turn with me when we returned to the jct. So we continued along a diff W Fork trail under the constant threat of a storm. Made it to the next TH & back without much rain. Worked out well, allowing various options.
 
Oct 07 2023
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43 female
 Joined Jun 23 2015
 Phoenix, AZ
Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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emilystardustTriplogs 792
Hiking3.02 Miles 301 AEG
Hiking3.02 Miles   1 Hour   21 Mns   2.35 mph
301 ft AEG      4 Mns Break
 
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Sep 22 2023
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 Joined Jan 20 2009
 Far NE Phoenix,
Indian Spring-WFBlack River-Thompson, AZ 
Indian Spring-WFBlack River-Thompson, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Sep 22 2023
The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking17.83 Miles 1,855 AEG
Hiking17.83 Miles   7 Hrs   11 Mns   2.82 mph
1,855 ft AEG      52 Mns Break12 LBS Pack
 
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Day 2 in the White Mountains

After a chilly, noisy night of elk bugling, we met at the Turtle Thompson Trailhead to set up a shuttle. We left a car there and then proceeded to the West Fork Trailhead to start our hike. We planned to rendezvous with Denny again at the Thompson Trailhead after completing the first leg of our hike.

Indian Springs Loop
We began by taking the 0.5-mile connector trail that leads to the Indian Springs Trail. This trail starts on a pleasant old railroad grade, and we followed it clockwise toward the official trailhead. While crossing FR249, we bumped into Denny, who was returning from his hike and heading back to the trailhead for a well-deserved nap.

Our route took us up to the site of the old Big Lake Lookout (LO) for some fantastic views of the surrounding area. Along the way, we had to navigate through some downed trees.

Continuing on the loop, we passed by the intriguing Spillman Spring log troughs.

West Fork Trail
After reuniting with Denny, we began our descent down the trail. One of the highlights of this trail was the descent to the Black River.

West Fork Loop Trail - 630
From there, we followed the West Fork Loop Trail. Some of us really enjoyed this small loop that led away from the Black River, taking us to an old road/single track that circled a picturesque meadow and creek. This eventually led us back down to the Black River, near where the West Fork Trail ended.

Thompson Trail
The highlight of the day was my first time hiking on the Thompson Trail, and hopefully not my last. It's a relatively straightforward hike alongside the Black River, offering stunning views of its numerous cascades. Surprisingly, we encountered quite a few people on this trail for a Friday, with both hikers and anglers enjoying the surroundings. We took some time to appreciate the river and the fish dams.

We'd like to extend our gratitude to Denny for joining us on this hike and helping to arrange the shuttle.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Indian Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Indian spring is in a pool The pool appears to be almost completely full

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Spillman Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Spring troughs are right on trail pipe is running about a gallon a minute
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Sep 22 2023
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 Joined Apr 02 2005
 Mesa, AZ
Indian Spring-WFBlack River-Thompson, AZ 
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Hiking avatar Sep 22 2023
Tortoise_HikerTriplogs 3,652
Hiking7.70 Miles 777 AEG
Hiking7.70 Miles   3 Hrs   20 Mns   2.52 mph
777 ft AEG      17 Mns Break
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I joined Bruce, John, and Kelly for the second half of their hike today. We set up as a shuttle so just doing the hike down and out was nice!! 😁
I like hiking in this area and it’s always fun hiking with these guys!! Temps were good and the breeze wasn’t too strong and welcome. Fire damage was evident on the West Fork trail with the Aspen coming along. The views looking down on the Black River were nice! Bruce added a loop on that I hadn’t done . Interesting new area for me. Then a break and out the Thompson trail. This one never gets old! Really enjoy hiking along the river.
A ride back to my car and they went back to camp and I had to head home. Very enjoyable outing!!
Great hike, weather, and company!! Good times!!
Thanks everyone! Like HAZ, you rock!!
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Sep 22 2023
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 chandler,az
Indian Spring-WFBlack River-Thompson, AZ 
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johnlpTriplogs 5,208
Hiking17.83 Miles 1,855 AEG
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Day two of our White Mountains adventure.
At dawn we were up making breakfast and coffee.
We met The Turtle at the trailhead to set up our shuttle. Thanks Denny!
A long day hiking, but we stayed below 10,000 feet elevation which helped with the altitude acclimation process. I had a tough time yesterday with the altitude.
Hiking along the Black River was super scenic and highlight of the day.
Fun day. :)
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Sep 22 2023
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 phoenix, az
Indian Spring-WFBlack River-Thompson, AZ 
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trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
Hiking17.83 Miles 1,855 AEG
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chilly morning at 9000 feet
up at first light, we had coffee and breakfast before heading off to meet denny
three of us started off from the west fork trailhead on the indian springs trail
this one was new to me and while not scenic, it was interesting
the best part was the big lake lookout
met back up with denny and had some lunch, then we all started down west fork trail
bruce had found a little loop that went from the intersection of west fork and thompson trails
up a shallow canyon then along an old roadbed, dropping back into the black river
we had a snack break, then finished up on the thompson trail, which was the prettiest of the day
it was nice of denny to meet up with us for the hike and shuttle
good day with some new and some old scenery
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Jul 23 2023
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Thompson Trail #629 - High Road vs. Low Road, AZ 
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jrich0085Triplogs 19
Hiking5.00 Miles 360 AEG
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Getting there may be half the fun, but not when it comes to the White Mountains. The drive takes forever, which is why I'd only been to this part of the state once in the past.

But now that Payson is home, that drive is 'only' about three hours, and I'm planning on exploring the White Mountains more in depth. With Payson weather as of late being reminiscent of the Phoenix Valley weather I left behind (triple digits and no rain), I decided to head for the 'coolest' spot in the state right now.

I set up camp Friday afternoon at Winn Campground under threatening skies. Rain showers started just east of Pinetop and followed me the entire way to the campground. With my site picked out and camp set up, I headed out for my first hike.

Being as it was late afternoon, I planned an easy hike for this evening. I've long seen photos from the White Mountains of lush, wildflower-studded meadows with a stream flowing through the middle. I wanted this type of scenery to be my White Mountains experience. The hike on Thompson Trail did not disappoint.

The hike begins at a well-signed trailhead off a maintained gravel road. I hiked along a decommissioned forest road and admired views of the west fork of the Black River down below. I saw what looked like a path on the river's edge and even some other hikers down there. The embankment was pretty steep, and I wondered how they got down there...

Eventually I reached the end of the old road at a marked junction. The sign read 'Thompson Trail 0.3 mile.' I thought I had been on the Thompson Trail the whole time. Looking at my map, I saw a series of extremely tight switchbacks in the direction where the sign pointed to Thompson Trail. Those switchbacks would take me down to the river. But would there be a trail down there, or would it be marshy grass? I decided to explore, but only a little further. The trail was rocky and getting hard to follow. I opted to play it safe and return the way I came, at least until I reached a small saddle where the embankment wasn't so steep.

Climbing down the embankment and through the marshy grass, I was able to get down to the river's edge where a well-blazed trail awaited me. I followed this all the way back to a gate on the old road, which then led back to the trailhead. In other words, I could have hiked at the river's edge the entire time. The trick is to follow the path to the left of the gate as you come in via the old road. Regardless, this was a beautiful, easy ~5 mile hike, and a good intro to the White Mountains.

I returned to camp to get ready for the next day's big hike at Mount Baldy.
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Beautiful sun flowers and more in the meadows around the river
 
Jul 22 2023
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 Joined Apr 02 2005
 Mesa, AZ
Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 22 2023
Tortoise_HikerTriplogs 3,652
Hiking5.00 Miles 360 AEG
Hiking5.00 Miles   2 Hrs   10 Mns   2.31 mph
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My grandson Mavericks second hike as a five year old. LoL LiLD and Isaac(grandson) joined us on this one. We saw a big heard of Elk on the drive in with lots of young ones along with Antelope in a few places and one Deer with a collar on by Big Lake.
Always enjoy this hike along the black river.
Some nice green with wildflowers and butterflies here and there. We saw 4 garter snakes. LiLD and Mav hiked 2.5 and Isaac and I did 5 miles.
It was a real treat to get a hike in with all of them!
Great scenery, weather and company!!
Thanks gentlemen! Like HAZ, you rock!!
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Jul 15 2023
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 Phoenix, AZ
Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
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BiFrostTriplogs 1,257
Hiking5.49 Miles 360 AEG
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Afternoon hike down Thompson Trail and West Fork Black River. Good hiking with plenty of water and scenery to enjoy. Hiked to the end where you are forced to cross the river to continue. Back tracked a bit to a nice spot where we took a long break.

After that headed back to the trailhead. On the way back ran into the rest of the weekend car camp group about a mile from the trailhead and hiked back with them. Great way to spend an afternoon!
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Jul 14 2023
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 Tempe, AZ
Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking1.55 Miles 102 AEG
Hiking1.55 Miles   1 Hour   32 Mns   2.02 mph
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After a loop on Indian Spring, Karl and I opted to stroll along the river for a couple of miles and enjoy a liquid picnic. A lovely day for it. Visited by a couple of canines at some distance from their humans. No beef jerky was lost. Storms would have been nice, but they stayed to the south. Too early for a tortoise sighting.
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Aug 28 2022
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 Phoenix, AZ
Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
Hiking7.69 Miles 526 AEG
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Wanted to check off something a little on the shorter side, and a walk along a creek sounded fun, so headed down to Thompson TH. Thompson Trail was nice, and very, very wet. Got distracted by raspberries a few times. Just 2.5 miles to West Fork trail, so it went by pretty quickly.

Decided to add on the 628A/630 loop, since it was on my map. Started up 628A, it was a bit hard to find the path along the short stretch of the Black River, but once in the side drainage (flowing, like everything right now), it was straightforward.

Couldn't find where I was supposed to turn west, so I headed up to a feature that looked logical, and where the line on my GPS was showing. Found the trail there, but it quickly headed into a burn scar. I was following what was definitely a path of sorts, but it faded into a meadow, so I headed upslope towards where the line on my map was. There I found a road grade (or the old RR grade?), and route finding was not an issue the rest of the way. The burned area had some very nice raspberry picking.

The rest of the way was uneventful, but featured many distractions in the form of more tasty-looking raspberries. Only saw one person out there, although there were three extra vehicles at the trailhead when I got there.
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Aug 21 2022
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 Mesa, AZ
Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
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RickVincentTriplogs 783
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Not exactly Thompson Trail, but in the general vicinity, starting from a different location along the West Fork of the Black River. Logged 1.75m one way. Double it. Beautiful day after several days of rain. The ground was saturated everywhere. Streams running where streams don't normally run including along roadways and sometimes right down the center of the road.
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Jul 22 2022
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 Phoenix, AZ
Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
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MEWhitemanTriplogs 385
Hiking4.97 Miles 502 AEG
Hiking4.97 Miles   2 Hrs   32 Mns   1.96 mph
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We combined the Thompson Trail #629 and the West Fork Trail #628 - Black River for a one way shuttle hike starting at the Thompson Trail TH. The Thompson Trail lived up to its reputation as a beautiful hike. As a result it was fairly busy with other hikers. We had originally planned to include the 628-630 loop to make the hike longer but it was getting warm and the loop did not look very shady from where we were at the junction of 628 and 629 so we skipped it. We climbed out on 628 just before the rain started. On the way back to Greer for lunch it poured. There was even sleet on AZ273 near the West Baldy trailhead.
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Thompson Trail #629Alpine, AZ
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This hike isn’t difficult, but it’s one of my favorites with the abundant scenery. This trip I got up with the sun and was on the trail early. It was a brisk 30 degrees when I hit the trail. I was blessed with lots of elk, including a brand new baby. I also heard a bear cub somewhere on the hill above me. I quickly moved from the area. The wildflowers and water were abundant.
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Aug 06 2021
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White Mountains Tour, AZ 
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andrewpTriplogs 15
Hiking55.74 Miles 6,888 AEG
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I had originally planned a long (5+ day) backpacking trip in the Greer area for early July, but the forest closures ended up cancelling that. In looking for a replacement trip I ended up deciding to do the Tahoe Rim Trail in September. The prep for that trip includes some new gear and new packing discipline along with the physical challenge of the trail itself (180 miles in 11 days). I decided to modify my original plan for the White Mountains and use it as a shakedown for the Tahoe trip.

Day 1 - 17 miles - Greer to West Fork of the Black River
This day started out at the Government Springs trailhead around 7:00am. I was a bit concerned about the condition of the trail as I couldn't find a lot of information on it. I was pleasantly surprised to find a fairly well-traveled trail which looks to be somewhat actively maintained (i.e. deadfall has been cut and cleared). There were some overgrown spots where I was concerned about stepping into something I couldn't see, but aside from from water and mud there weren't any issues.

I continued following the river up to Sheeps Crossing where I got onto the West Baldy trail which I followed to its intersection with the Baldy Crossover trail.

The crossover trail was a nice change after the muddy river walk, but the dry trail only lasted for so long. After the first mile the skies opened up and out came the rain gear. The rain was never hard and it only lasted for 30 minutes or so. A new item on this trip was a rain kilt and as ridiculous as it looks I have to say that it's sooo much better than rain pants.

After the crossover trail ended I headed up the East Baldy trail for a bit. The intention here was to replicate a route posted by @Oregon_Hiker which followed the West Fork of the Black River to connect the East Baldy trail with the Thompson trail. I was able to find the headwaters of the Black River without too much trouble, but the condition of the canyon had changed significantly since he posted his triplog last year.

From his photos I expected a reasonably straightforward trek through a sparsely forested canyon. What I encountered was an overgrown mess which made it very difficult to find footing. On top of that there was an incredible amount of deadfall which looked like some jumbo-sized game of pickup sticks. I tried following the canyon a bit above the river and had better luck but it was still slow going. I eventually found the reservation boundary fence but it was in every orientation but vertical and mostly pinned down under massive deadfall. This was very different from last year's photos and description.

Then the thunder and lightning started.
Then it started raining again.
Then it started hailing.

After the storm I started moving again only to be slowed down by even more rain then stopped by more impressive thunder and even bigger hail. This trip was quickly running the risk of transitioning from type 2 to type 3 fun.

While waiting out the storm I decided to abandon the river walk and cut over to FR402D. Once the storm stopped I made my way over to the road and followed it to the point where it diverged from the stream. From there I stuck with the stream and made my way through the meadow to FR116 which I followed to the Thompson trail.

The Thompson trail was beautiful and similar in overall theme to the Government Springs trail at the beginning of the day. There were a lot of marshy sections and a lot of mud. While I had hoped to keep my feet from getting any wetter that just wasn't in the cards.

My intent was to camp near the intersection of the Thompson and West Fork trails, but when I got there I couldn't find a good spot. As the clouds in the sky were getting more ominous looking I decided to backtrack to a site I saw about 0.5 miles prior.

The weather was quickly turning and once I got to the site I raced to get my tent setup. This was comical as it was a new tent and although I had set it up in my yard a few times I had never done so in the wild under duress of an impending storm. Somehow I managed to get the tent pitched, my gear sheltered, and myself into the tent before the skies opened up again. This time it rained hard for over an hour. Fortunately my new tent kept me and my stuff dry.

After the rain stopped I got my stuff better organized, had some dinner, and hit the sack. As I fell asleep a thunderstorm raged several miles to the west. Two hours later and every two hours after that I was awakened by my air mattress having deflated enough to put some part of my body in contact with the ground.

Day 2 - 18 miles - West Fork of the Black River to East Baldy Overlook
I awoke to 46 degrees and 100% humidity. It was actually a very nice morning if it weren't for all of the condensation all over everything. Fortunately, I stayed dry overnight and by some sort of miracle (and a well-designed tent) didn't end up with any moisture on my quilt.

After taking care of my morning routine and packing up a very wet tent (inside and out) I headed back down the Thompson trail to the West Fork trail. I crossed the river and headed up the canyon wall to the plateau above. Everything was wet and muddy. Not just muddy, but suck the shoe off your foot muddy. I don't have much to say about the West Fork trail as it was pretty unremarkable. I'm sure it was much more interesting before the fire, but now it's just a lot of exposure.

From the West Fork trail I took FR68 north to FR249C which roughly parallels the canyon edge. Not much to report from these roads other than the fact that they were rutted and muddy messes in places. Lots of sun exposure and slow going in spots. I had planned a stop a Deadman Spring to get some water and dry my tent, but upon arrival I found a pond with what appeared to be a pretty healthy bloom of blue green algae. Not wanting to test my theory I backtracked a bit to a flowing spring I had passed by earlier and took my break there. In retrospect perhaps Deadman Spring had that name for a reason :)

After my break I continued my walk through the mud bog that was FR249C. Eventually I made it to FR249E, the FR116, then 402 then 8037 which I followed over Burro Mountain to AZ273. This section featured some great views from Burro Mountain, but was otherwise a long and tough slog. The sun was blazing and having learned my lesson descending the Rincons in May I was carrying a sun umbrella which I attached to my pack for some portable shade. This turned out to be a lifesaver as there's nothing worse than broiling your brain in the sun.

After cutting through the Gabaldon campsite I got onto the East Baldy trail and started making my way up the hill. Knowing that I would have a dry camp I grabbed water at the last possible spot before the trail started ascending. The Easy Baldy trail is beautiful and although I was tired I was loving the scenery.

I made it to the overlook about midway up the trail and found a perfect spot to pitch my tent between a couple of boulders. Took in the views, made some dinner, and hit the sack early. As I didn't have time to track down the leak in my mattress I went through the same cycle of interrupted sleep.

Day 3 - 20 miles - East Baldy overlook back to Greer
I woke up early and had just enough time to make some coffee before the sun came up. Enjoyed the display and then got on with my day.

The remainder of the East Baldy trail was beautiful and in retrospect one of my favorite parts of the trip. There was some deadfall to deal with, but nothing too bad. I stopped at the spring near the plane wreck to camel up and continued on. The area around the wreck was completely overgrown with ferns and cornlilly to the point that the tail section was barely visible.

Made it to the junction with the West Baldy trail and took a side trip up to the accessible summit. The views were great, but there was some haze in the air which limited visibility.

From the summit I started down and once I got to the shallower grade in the last 4 - 5 miles I hauled a** to the trailhead. I was feeling great and making great time so, stupid me, thought that the last 7 miles would be a fast walk back into town. I should have known better as the West Fork trail was a nightmare.

Once I found the West Fork trail I was treated to 4 miles of rutted and muddy terrain with nearly zero redeeming qualities. I'm guessing that without the mud it would have been more enjoyable, but in its current state I was really regretting my decision to take this trail. Fortunately the last 2 miles were through a beautifully forested area which almost made up for the prior pain.

Once at the trailhead I was ready for my day to be over, but I still had a 1.75 mile road walk through Greer to get to my truck. What energy I had left was sapped out of me by that walk. Unfortunately, it was a Sunday afternoon and the restaurants I passed were all either closed or not serving. I had been looking forward to a celebratory piece of pie, but that wasn't meant to be.
While quite different than my original plan of a leisurely stroll through the area I think that the fast approach that I took was more appropriate. The overall area is beautiful, but the beauty is punctuated by burned areas and, in the case of this trip, a lot of mud. I imagine that I would have gotten rather bored and frustrated if I had spread it out over any more days. In the future I may make another trip to focus more on the Mount Baldy Wilderness and unburned sections of Burro Mountain but I think I've had my fill of the area SW of Big Lake.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Buckshot Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
This may have been the highlight of my day. Clean and clear flow out of the pipe.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Burro Creek Medium flow Medium flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Clear Cut Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Deadman Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Hard to tell actual flow, but there was a lot of water in the pool. Film of what was likely and algae bloom on top so gathered drinking water from the spring a 1/2 mile south on the road.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 East Fork Little Colorado River Heavy flow Heavy flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Government Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Mount Baldy Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Neck Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Potatoe Hollow Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Trail Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Trail Spring Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max West Fork LCR - Upper Tributary Medium flow Medium flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 West Fork Little Colorado River Heavy flow Heavy flow
 
average hiking speed 2.35 mph
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