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Aug 10 2019
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56 male
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 Mesa, AZ
Hangover TrailSedona, AZ
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DarthStillerTriplogs 856
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The first hike of my 50s. I didn't get a chance to do an epic memorable last hike of my 40s like I did 10 years ago for my 30s. so I decided to make the first hike of my 50s a nice one. I've been hiking locally in Phoenix the last few months since I got burned out doing long drives. I did a lot of hikes in July, but they were mostly kind of urban hikes in PA. It was beyond time to get in the car and take a road trip. Wally was in as well.

We started out on the Margs Draw Trail, and did a few others, but the main feature of this hike was the Hangover Trail without a doubt. The views along this trail are the best. There are a few steep sections, but they're pretty short. Just enough effort to make it a respectable hike. How this trail isn't considered one of the better hikes to do in Sedona is beyond me. At least I haven't heard many people mention it, or seen enough posts on HAZ.

Starting from so far south was mainly to add some mileage. After Margs Draw we took the Munds Wagon Trail and intended to do the Hangover/Cowpie loop. I looked at the topo and it seemed like getting the climb out of the way early was a good option, so we did the loop clockwise. the big climbs are on the west end of the loop, and they give some of the best views. The trail is mainly marked by spray painted chevrons, so there's that. Some sections of the trail are level while the ground is at a steep slope, which isn't great for middle aged ankles. Which is why there is ibuprofen. Vitamin IB.

the Hangover Trail heads over a saddle between two buttes, and then continues eastward. At some point this apparently becomes the Cowpies Trail, but I didn't the sign which stated this transition. We stopped for lunch along this section and saw a mountain biker coming the other way. we still wonder how he made it down the steep slick rock section of the western end of the loop. The last time I was in this area was in 2005 when I did a shuttle hike on the Jacks Canyon Trail with my friend Ted. It was nice to be able to recognize the area from then and remembering everything very well. doesn't seem like I did that hike 14 years ago.

Once we were back on the Munds Wagon Trail, it was pretty easy. Had some shade and a gradual downhill grade. There were some sections of potato sized rocks to negotiate, but it wasn't too bad. by the time we finished it was a bit toasty, but not as bad as its been in the valley lately.

Saw more jeeps and 4x4s along Schnebly Hill Road than we saw hikers on the trail. also saw more helicopters flying around the buttes and mountains than I would have preferred, but crowds and money will do that. Noticed the helicopters more when we were up at the top.

Nice to get out for a day/road trip. Sedona rarely disappoints.
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Margs Draw Trail #163Sedona, AZ
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Snoopy's Belly Loop, AZ 
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We had planned this double (Snoopy and the Airport Loops - apropos since Snoopy was a dog pilot :lol: ) a few months back but the temps were too chilly and we did Bluff Springs Mountain instead. This time Kelly originally had other plans that didn't happen and I was more than glad to do this vs a very early morning city hike.

We started from Munds Wagon/Huckaby TH after paying our permit fee. The trail is pretty nice and gives you instant views as you come in and out of the trees You go over some drainages and before you know it, you're at the Broken Wheel TH. Wasn't quite what I had in mind but oh well. We checked it out and then headed back keeping an eye on HAZel for our off trail point. It took us a couple times but we finally found the correct exit. Don't do this at home; just do the out and back from the east side of Marg's Draw Trail.

We more or less found our way until the Witch took over for a short spell. It took us a bit to sweep her out of the picture and continue our way on this non-trail route altho we would see footsteps from time to time; could have been the Witch's as we would soon be walking thru stickery plants. After about 1/4 mile we thot, this is ridiculous but felt it would be just as brutal to go back to the trail so we kept going as surely this wouldn't last much longer. Needless to say we were grateful when we finally got to a big slap of bedrock with great 360 views. Whew! The route takes you to the southeast end of that bedrock before u-turning back north and closer to the foothills. Now this is more like it!

Oh and we finally remembered we're supposed to be looking for Snoopy's Belly (what it's called on the map but it's really Snoopy Rock I think). As we're heading along here we see a couple people up on a large ledge next to a boulder. We wonder what they're doing up there and how they got there. Soon enough we find a use trail; discuss whether or not to save it for another time and decided this was another time. So up we went and were pleasantly surprised to find a couple switchbacks and some short level parts that would eventually takes us out to that bench ledge where the boulder was. The other people were gone. We don't know how they hiked out from this area as we didn't see them. So there must be another access point.

The UP wasn't quite done yet so after a couple pictures we proceeded on; Kelly running point. Soon enough I hear a little yelp so I figure it must be pretty cool so I'm anxious to get to where she is altho I had to stop for one photo op. As I came to the top of the saddle and looked past the boulders I was pretty impressed but I didn't fully look over the boulders until I got the camera into movie mode so that when I turned, I think I swore at what I saw as it was unexpected :y: . And on top of that, you still had the views to each side of you so needless to say, a worthy destination.

We tried to see if there was a route somewhere around rather than the one we used to get here. I feared the route down would be a bit slippery. Well we couldn't find any other path from here when we were on the other side of the tall red rock formation (Snoopy) as it just dead-ended. So we went down the same way we came up and it wasn't as bad as I thot it would be. Whoever laid this out did a very good job considering the terrain.

Back at the main trail you hit some bedrock again and it eventually runs out so you end up more on a trail. As you get closer to Marg's Draw it's nice to look back at where you were and the rock outcroppings we had seen earlier this morning as now it was past noon as our excursion ended being longer than I thot. HAZel also decided to add two long lines so I ended up doing 11 miles in about 4 hours. I cleaned up the route the best I could. So glad that we decided next time was this time. And of course, we never realized we were at Snoopy's Belly (Snoopy Rock) until I got back and looked at the pictures. We both agreed it's a bit of a reach.

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Snoopy & Airport Loops Sedona, AZ 
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trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
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angela found a route posted by @pbaenzig from years ago that made a loop off margs draw trail, going along the south side of the snoopy rock formation
we thought we could combine that loop with airport loop for a decent scenic day in sedona
got going around 0900 just as parking was filling up at munds wagon trailhead
took margs draw to the end, then found our use trail on the way back
this segment was quite overgrown with sticker bushes for a good half mile
we also got off trail crossing a wash, resulting in a blair witch circle :lol:
eventually we came to a nice flat bedrock area, similar to the cow pies trail bench
quick snack break at the east end of it, then headed west along the base of the rock formations
much of the trail was on nice red rock and reminded us of the hangover trail
we saw some guys up on a high bench and then found another use trail that switchbacked up to it
the trail continued to a saddle above that offered fantastic views of chimney rock, thunder mountain and wilson mountain
we dropped down and linked up with margs draw to finish the loop
great views the entire hike
would recommend a simple out and back on the most scenic parts [ gps route ]
can't think of any reason to do the lower leg of the loop
never did see the snoopy resemblance until angela texted me a photo sunday night
took an appetizer break at the olde sedona bar & grill
drove over to airport mesa
no parking below, so paid $3 to park at the overlook, adding a half mile each way to airport loop
this included a nice climb back out at the end :sweat:
went to the overlook points first, then clockwise on the loop
nice views to the southeast of cathedral rock, courthouse butte and bell rock, along with oak creek
angela knew i wanted to hit table top, so she generously waited for me while i did the out and back
the west side isn't as scenic, but we had a good breeze and eventual views of doe, bear, chimney rock, thunder and wilson mountains as we circled back to the start
i had done this hike a few years ago, and enjoyed seeing it again
airport mesa is an interesting high point
we saw a few small planes taking off, some of them pretty close
finished uphill then set off for the valley, making good time without much traffic
always a good day in tibber mode; it had been awhile since our last hike and we both like sedona
thanks for driving, angela
we even hit double digits for the day :)
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Margs Draw Trail #163Sedona, AZ
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Run/Jog4.80 Miles 132 AEG
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Two full days in Sedona has led to a potpourri of trails. (Amazingly, hiking hard core for 7 years, and I have never hiked in Sedona. Sacrilege, I know!) I got up here late Thursady night and started checking out the lay of the on Friday with my wife. These hikes that I have done are being logged in no particular order.

This hike was around 3:30 in the afternoon. There were dark storm clouds in several directions but I was in the sun for the majority of the time. It had rained hard on Friday and briefly a few hours before I got on the trail, but the trail was still in excellent condition. I started from the Broken Arrow TH and headed north. About 1 mile in I came to the connector that leads to the Sombart parking/TH. This spur was about .4 miles long, fairly flat, except for the part immediately adjacent to the parking lot where there was some staired elevation. I continued on for another .9 miles to Schnebly Hill Rd, where Marg ends and Huckaby begins. I touched the sign and turned around. Jogged the whole thing, though I did stop to take a pictures a couple of times. Nice trail to run on. Some minor ups and downs with a gradual incline going south to north. I didn't see anyone on the trail, though I did see one guy scrambling up towards Snoopy (or what I assumed was Snoopy. I didn't stop to study the pillars and hoodoos so I never saw Snoopy, but the guy was scrambling in the area that I would expect Snoopy to be (1.4 miles from Broken Arrow TH)). No wildlife.
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Margs Draw Trail #163Sedona, AZ
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First time checking out trails at Schnebly Hill (why did we wait this long?!).
We were supposed to go to Devils Bridge via Chuck Wagon but we were couldnt find the trail from the Long Canyon trailhead (trails washed up) so decided to finally check out Hangover and we ended up at Margs Draw. I checked my map and the map at the trail head and still managed to get on the wrong trail. :?

Started around 1030am, still a lot of room in the parking lot, packet by the time we finished. Saw some Pink Jeeps over at Munds Wagon trailhead. Marg's Draw was well marked and we easily found our way to Broken Arrow. I like that the terrain changes from rocky to packed dirt with some foliage. Perfectly runnable trail :)
Views of course are amazing! Weather was overcast with cool mild winds when we started and quickly warmed up (mid 60s to low 70s). Saw only 2 other hikers going up, saw a few more going back. Dog friendly trail I would say, saw some 4 legged friends that morning.

Overall a nice short hike, less busy than other trails in town.
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Margs Draw Trail #163Sedona, AZ
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Another hike in the Boots and Burgers book. 5am Start.
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with my parents, sierra and michelle. nice trail. great scenery
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Great day for a hike in Sedona. Hiked and met up with Broken Arrow Trail and out to Submarine Rock. Looped it with the jeep trail that parallels the trail, then back out to the Margs Draw Trail Head. Total of 6.5 miles. Good start to the New Year. Saw water holes with frozen water in them.
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spectacular morning run before a day goofing around in the creek at Midgely bridge.
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Ran with the Flagstaff Ultra Club from Red Rock High School to Midgley Bridge on a beautiful day in Sedona. We covered a number of trails, although, the section near Cathedral Rock and Huckaby were my favorites.
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From the resort located next to Marg's Draw Trailhead, I ran towards the Huckaby trail leading me over to Midgley Bridge. From there I ran Wilson Canyon trail, then Jim Thompson over to Jordan Road. I ran down through town, up Schnebly hill road and back on Marg's Draw.
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Below is the course around Sedona for the 50K endurance race, and the elevation gain was provided by the race director. This was by far the toughest, yet most scenic trail race I've ever done. Fortunately, I had a friend from Flagstaff running the race that knew the entire route, otherwise I would have been incredibly lost. We exchanged the lead with several other runners as the day went on, somehow he and I managed to come out on top finishing the race together in a true team effort with a tie for first. Wish I could have enjoyed the scenery, except I was a little more concerned with my foot placement on the trails. The weather was perfect, the race was well organized, everything seemed to go as smooth as possible, and everyone was in good spirits despite the challenges the race provided.


Red Rock High School to Herkenham Trail to Old Post Trail, Chavez Ranch Road to Red Rock Crossing, Baldwin Trail to Templeton Trail to HT Trail to Bell Rock Pathway. Little Horse Trail to Chicken Point, Broken Arrow to Marg's Draw to Schnebly Road to Huckaby Trail to Midgley Bridge. Wilson Canyon Trail to Jim Thompson Trail to Jordan Trail to Teacup Trail to Sugarloaf. Thunder Mountain Trail to Andante Trail to Dry Creek Road. Girdner Trail to Cultural Center and back to High School.
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Parked on Sombart Lane and went up to Schnebly Hill Road - had lunch - then back to the car. I like the views of the city and Snoopy Rock from this easy trail. You can see Clinton rock too ;)
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With a free afternoon, I headed to Sedona with not any real ideas of what to do. As I drove through Oak Creek Canyon, the 600+ cfs raging through the canyon looked impressive, but a hike up to the rim sounded cold. I kept driving and searching my brain for ideas. Bear Mountain sounded nice but I didn't want to be hiking down after sunset. Finally I decided I would try out Marg's Draw, but extend the hike out to the Broken Arrow Trail. Marg's Draw was lacking photos on HAZ anyway.

The Schnebly Hill TH was pretty full, but I managed to get a spot. Noticed a dramatic irony: handicapped parking spots at the trailhead! :sl: Headed out below Snoopy on the Marg's Draw Trail walking south. I was pretty impressed by the artistic metalwork on the trail sign. The trail is a typical rolling Sedona hike with agaves, junipers, pinons, prickly pear, the works. There was a trickle of water flowing off a waterfall along the trail, in what I assume is Marg's Draw proper. The trail is close to the city, so noise pollution was radiating into my ears for three quarters of Marg's Draw. Views to the west of all the Sedona landmarks were decent, but much of the city was also in view. About halfway down Marg's Draw Trail, there's a junction to a smaller trailhead back in a neighborhood, or a small social trail that heads up toward Mund's Mountain...and it looks tempting. Some other day. About this point the views to Mund's are very open and welcome.

Hit the Broken Arrow TH and headed out. Decided to do Submarine Rock instead of Chicken Point, and it worked out well. Submarine Rock is a very cool spot. Ate a snack atop the Sub, snapped some photos and headed back the way I came. Stopped by the roadside watering hole in Oak Creek Canyon on the drive up to try out the remote for my camera and some BULB exposures. Mucho bueno.
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Oct 01 2009
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Margs Draw Trail #163Sedona, AZ
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Margs Draw Trail #163Sedona, AZ
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The Marg's Draw Trail situation has changed a lot since Joe wrote the above report back in 1997. It has long been an "official" Sedona "system" trail. That means it now geets maintained, signed, marked, etc. There are actually three trailheads accessing Marg's Draw.

The guidebooks list the Sombart Lane Trailhead as the main TH for this trail. Sombart Lane is right next to the Circle K on Highway 179, roughly a mile south of the Oak Creek Bridge in Sedona. This TH is rather smallish with no facilities.

The Schnebly Hill Trailhead also "works" as a Marg's Draw TH. This extensive TH is located at the end of the paved portion of Schnebly Hill Road, almost exactly one mile from Highway 179.

There is ample paved parking, a toilet, two signboard, some picnic tables and a solar-powered Red Rock Pass dispenser.
This end of the Marg's Draw Trail offers of more rolling topography, traversing in and out of some small washes that drain off of the Snoopy Rock outcrop.

The third Marg's Draw TH is known as the Broken Arrow Trailhead--accessed off of Morgan Road. Most people using the Broken Arrow TH are heading out to Chicken Point or Submarine Rock. However, Marg's Draw does, indeed, terminate here as well.

On March 7, I led a hiking group of about a dozen people onto Marg's Draw from the Schnebly Hill TH. We walked past the Sombart Lane intersection to a fairly large drainage that creates a handsome waterfall. We chose this spot as a turn around point for our return to the Schnebly Hill TH. We figured the RT was about 3 miles and it took about 2 hours.

Personally, we prefer to access Marg's Draw from the Schnebly Hill TH. We'd recommend you check out each of the three options and decide which one is best for you.

The trail is now well-maintained with an excellent tread. It is well marked and frequently used by joggers from the local neighborhoods. It offers very nice views of the various rock formations for which Sedona is famous. The vegetation and topography screen out most of the "urbanized views." However, it is definitely NOT a pristine "wilderness" experience. You will see signs of man's presence off in the distance.
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