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Jul 31 2025
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Derrick - Horton LoopPayson, AZ
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JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,400
Hiking9.42 Miles 1,466 AEG
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Decided to get out of the oven for a short bit and do the Horton Derrick Loop. Afterwards I couldn't help but hit the Pizza Hut Lunch Buffet in Payson. :y:
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Derrick - Horton LoopPayson, AZ
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Hiking9.87 Miles 1,579 AEG
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Met up with Linda and her friend Janelle to do the Horton-Derrick Loop. Cool, pleasant temps for our 7:30 start as we made our way clockwise toward the spring. We passed three groups already returning from the spring, plus a campsite with a few mules, dudes, and dogs.

We took in the spring, had a snack, and shared stories about Linda. It was my first time hitting the new reroute in this direction—I still like it. The mules, dudes, and dogs passed us and, for some reason, thought my name was Pete or Joshua?

Derrick drags on, but it's necessary to complete the loop. Temps stayed good all day, with a nice breeze. It was great to finally meet Janelle—and oh yeah, hike with Linda again. On the return, Sunday traffic getting to and through Payson was a total CF.
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Jul 27 2025
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Derrick - Horton LoopPayson, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking9.53 Miles 1,716 AEG
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Easy loop today with Janelle and Bruce/Pete/Jonah/whateverhisnameisnow. Headed up Horton first. Saw a few groups of people, but mostly had the trail to ourselves. Some erosion from the fire sort of obscured one turn, but there’s a cairn if you’re paying attention. Took a break at the spring. Watched some barefoot, shirtless guys who were camped near the spring with their dogs and mules.

My first time on this re-routed section of Highline. Definitely not as steep. Noticeable fire damage, and I’m guessing a few spots/corners will see washouts if it ever rains again. Saw a few trail runners, and one guy who asked if we were the ones in the Tremor. Bruce confidently said No. I guess he’s never actually looked at my grey truck before. Saw the shirtless guys again as they rode past us and happily greeted Pete.

Derrick Trail is blah as usual. At least it’s all downhill. Warmer, but at least there was a breeze. We dropped Bruce back off at McDonalds in Payson, found a detour around the worst of the traffic, and had a smooth drive back to the Valley. Good hike with Janelle and Bruce!

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Jul 13 2025
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Perfect day with a little overcast to make the loop followed by some lunch buffet at Pizza Hut in Payson.
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May 20 2025
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,375
Hiking9.57 Miles 1,608 AEG
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It had been several years since I have done this hike, so I decided to head up there while there was still a bit of springtime weather.

I parked at the Derrick TH and did the loop CCW.

I thought that the Derrick Trail and the Highline Trail were in great shape and I enjoyed that portion of the hike. The area around Horton Spring was nice, as always. The Horton Creek Trail was rockier than I remembered it and it is in need of some tread work.

It was a nice day to be below the rim.
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May 12 2025
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JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,400
Hiking9.80 Miles 1,600 AEG
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I’ve been wanting to do this one for a while and I got inspired recently by a Turtle, an Eagle and Waldo. I did my usual hike up Horton and down the Derrick. The trail has definitely changed a bit. I think I actually like it a little bit better. It’s not as steep coming out of Horton onto the Highline.
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Hiking9.89 Miles 1,608 AEG
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1,608 ft AEG      11 Mns Break5 LBS Pack
 
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I joined the giddy Sir Turtle and Superstition Waldo for a hike in the cool country.

Starting at 7:20, the temps were really comfy in the low 50s. That climb up Derrick to meet the Highline is always deceptively steep. The Turtle set the pace and got us to the Highline super quick.

From there, we blew right past the turn for the Promontory Trail. Then we started noticing the Highline had been freshly groomed. Not only that, but looking at the official track, they did a major reroute. Checked online, and it was done in Dec 2024. It cuts out some of the AEG and adds a little mileage. It's actually a pretty nice job of contouring around what we used to go over. It's rerouted all the way to Horton Springs.

At Horton Springs, we hung out for a bit, snapped some photos, and tried to get our $5 from Denny.
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From there, it was an easy 4.5 miles back to the trailhead.

Good times with these less couth boneheads. 68 degrees at the finish.


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Hiking9.89 Miles 1,608 AEG
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A nice loop hike near Payson. With these guys it was more like the Derelict loop but there were few witnesses to the antics. The hike up the Derrick trail was in cool temps and you got to satisfy your AEG hunger right off. :sweat:

The trail was in good shape but there was the sticky mud that added some weight to your shoes just to keep you honest. Denny stopped for a short break a few times. Bruce told me breaks were cheaper than a new transmission so something to ponder.

Once on the Highline trail I mentioned having hiked this with Denny back when but didn't remember this section. The section was smooth, flat and rock free. Bruce looked at his GPS and discovered we were on a rerouted section. We stopped at the intersections of the old route and noticed you could see the old trail.

Upon arriving at Horton Spring we checked out the spring of course. Denny developed a fascination with fish and wanted a photo of one in the water. The quest was unsuccessful but killed some time.

From Horton Spring on down we saw some hikers and backpackers coming up. We momentarily took a few wrong turns but found our way back to the car. No silver alert was issued.

It was fun to get out and hike with the boys. Thanks to Denny for driving.


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Wally and I headed up to where Eagles soar! Bruce, Wally and I hiked the loop counter clockwise. The ground had signs of recent rain with some mud here and there. Nothing bad enough to sink in or harm the trail when we hiked, in my opinion. The climb up Derrek hasn't lessened! :o Once we hit Highline, I thought it leveled off but the climb went on for a little more. :? :D We missed the turn for purgatory so we skipped it today. :o . After being on the Highline for awhile Wally said this part seemed pretty smooth and he didn't remember it from when we hike the whole Highline. He also remembered Booneman saying how rocky it could get when he ran the Zane Grey 50. Well, Booneman will love this section now. Pretty smooth. Turns out Bruce looked at the route and this section was rerouted. I'll miss one nice section of Maples that got bypassed but not the aeg! Once we hit Horton we looked for fish by the footbridge and checked out the spring. We saw two small trout and the spring looked nice as ever. Saw the first hiker of the day after that. Took some pics and a break then headed down Horton Trail. Downhill from here albeit rocky. Checked out the Apple tree on the way out. It had blossoms so maybe some Apples this year. Great loop hike! Along with great weather and company, it made for quite an enjoyable outing! Thanks gentlemen! Like HAZ, you rock!!
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Hiking10.74 Miles 1,806 AEG
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Hiking9.50 Miles 1,950 AEG
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It was raining when I left home, but I was hopeful it wouldn’t be raining up here. It wasn’t.
0745 start from Derrick TH. CCW direction. Cloudy skies on the way up made Derrick more pleasant than usual.
Sunshine arrived to stay when I reached Highline. A most pleasant trip over to Horton, though the steep sections on Highline always catch me off guard.
Left Highline for the Spring and took a break. The temperature was cool enough to bring a shiver.
Surprisingly few people on this loop today so I spent some time at a few spots along the creek.
Perfect day for this hike.
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Third time hiking this one. Last year added the Promontory Butte trail as a side excursion. Being gluttons for punishment we decided to do it again this time. It is brutally steep trail gaining about 1000' in 3/4 mile. This time it was a little easier as there were less dried leaves and pine needles than last year. So we weren't slipping and sliding nearly as much. Near the top we took a wrong turn and ended up on a very steep and loose slope and had to do some serious scrambling to keep from sliding off the mountain. But we made it.

At the top we meet a retired couple who drove there for a picnic. They gave us some snacks and we had a nice conversation with them. We decided not to go back the way we came but rather take the forest roads on top of the rim to the Horton Springs Trail. Walking on the nice easy dirt roads was a nice change from that crazy step Promontory trail. We cut a few corners to save a little distance, but that added some ups and downs to the walk.

There was a sign on the side of the road marking the top of the Horton Springs trail. Signs are good, and there were fewer this year. The Promontory Trail signs at both the top and bottom ends of the trail are missing and just the posts are left. Also I remember signs at the trail junction at Horton Creek, but there were none this time.

Horton Springs trail started out easy. There were some steep sections especially on the lower half. But it wasn't to bad, at least for going down. After a brief rest near the spring we took the Horton Creek trail back to the car. At the car our acquaintances from Promontory Butte drove by, saw us and stopped to say hi. Really nice folks.

All in all a very good day of hiking.
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john and i parked at derrick and walked up the road to horton creek trail
set out around 0700
first time going clockwise on the loop, although i've been up and down horton creek trail a few times
temps in 40s to start, started getting windy near horton springs
lots of water in horton creek
we saw three backpackers coming out and a couple other hikers
starting this direction cuts down on the number of people encountered
quite a few people camping along the creek
we took a few photos and spent some time wandering around the springs area
some ups and downs on highline and an easy downhill on derrick to finish the loop
saw just eight people on these trails
mid 60s by the time we finished
very windy
everything was nice and green
we timed this hike so that we would roll into payson at 1100 when the thai restaurant opens
home by 1300
pretty nice morning john, thanks!
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Kelly has been hankering for Derrick-Horton for a couple weeks now, so I gave in.
Nice and cool when we got started. A bit breezy morphing into windy conditions as the day moved along.
Quite a few campers along the creek per usual. Not many on the trails while we passed through.
Lots of water in the creek. Very pretty. Good hike. Thanks Kelly. :)
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More challenging loop with the delightful Promontory Butte addon. Trails are somewhat ragged with deadfall as compared to normal. Rating this loop four stars or higher is a stretch considering it's mostly forest bathing (like the overrated Cabin Loop). All the unnecessary cairns that were along the rim are gone. Apparently the COHPing crowd is as strange as P1K peakers.
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Hiking9.82 Miles 1,963 AEG
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Got started from the Derrick trailhead around 0830. 46 degrees, cloudy, light drizzle—my definition of delightful. Headed up Horton Creek trail. Saw a few runners, doing I think the Zane Grey run. Saw several groups of backpackers. Trail is in good shape, as usual. Lots of water flowing in the creek.

Headed south on Highline. Saw more runners, and a few backpackers. The occasional drizzle switched to graupel, which Jill had never heard of. I would think a Canadian would be familiar with all the frozen forms of precipitation, but what do I know?

Easy descent down Derrick. Heavier graupel. Muddy trail. Finished up just before 1300. 44 degrees—even better. Nice loop, good day.

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On our first full day in Payson we decided to hike the Derrick, Highline, Horton Loop. Got started about 9 to a nice lower 70’s temperature. Steady climb for the 3 miles of the Derrick Trail and the continuing for the next mile along the Highline Trail to the Promontory Trail. The Promontory is a steep climb up to the rim. I told Ginny we weren’t going to do that (much to her disappointment). The highline to Horton Creek from here is a little downhill and more uphill before really going downhill to the east Fork of Horton Creek. East Fork Horton was dry and we took a break there. Just one more small hill to go over to get to Horton Creek. I had completely forgotten about Horton Spring but once I got to the creek crossing I suddenly remembered the spring, Don’t know how I could forget about the spring, such a cool place. Every bit of water in Horton Creek comes gushing out of the ground there. From Horton Spring we headed down the Horton Creek Trail to our start point. Made a couple of side trips along Horton Creek where the falls are. Horton Creek was running pretty good until just before the end of the trail where it disappeared under ground again.

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Nice change up to Horton to add a couple miles and make it a loop. Lots of groups heading in to backpack.
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Mellow pace with Kriket and Dese with another bear encounter along the Highline before the Promontory junction. This one, also scared of us, decided to quickly climb a tree and just wait us out.

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