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Aug 11 2020
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Phoenix Mtn Preseve Loops, AZ 
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Sep 21 2019
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Bluff Springs Trail #235Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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This was a quick spur of the moment overnight backpack from Peralta TH to LaBarge Spring via Bluff Spring Trail #235 and Dutchman Trail #104. I wanted to have a look at Charlebois Spring as well, but I started at 4pm and it was getting close to dark by the time I got to the bottom at LaBarge, so I made camp near the junction with Red Tanks.

Bluff Spring Tr. #235 is in great shape until just north of the camping corridor nearby Bluff spring. Soon after, catclaw is everywhere and will soon be cutting into you if you aren't in long pants/long shirt. The catclaw is growing dense in a few spots and is especially apparent north of the junction with Dutchman #104 - no doubt due to fire activity and lack of foot traffic over the past few months.

Once descending down into bluff spring canyon towards the LaBarge drainage, a noticeable boundary between burned (to the east) and unburned (to the west) areas is apparent. On the unburned side there is still a lot of dense, unburned grass fuels. I'm on a new pair of Topo Ultraventure shoes, but neglected to pick up the trail gaiters with them, which would have really helped with the sharp grasses!

Looks like the fire came within about a quarter mile of LaBarge Spring... maybe even closer than that. Looks like the trail junction sign for Dutchman + Red Tanks burned a bit and was knocked over. On arrival to the spring I noticed a distinct "wet ash" kind of smell and saw that the creek bed is muddy with soot. Clearly flash floods from the burn scar have made their way through here.

Spring was flowing well; spring box was overflowing so I collected water and made camp for the night. Quiet, beautiful, milky way overhead.

Next day: real simple, just same way back to the car. Took the spur trail to check Bluff Spring on my way back. We're getting about a quart per minute. No difficulty there aside from bushwhacking through the trees the short distance to where the pipe break is.

Spoke to an old treasure hunter / cowboy type, resting in Barks Canyon. Forgot his name; but he said he was 82 yrs old and looked like a man out of time, with what looked like a 1970s external frame pack that looked beaten to hell. Very friendly soft spoken man. Had a quick chat with him about the history of some of the spanish gold mining operations and such in the area. Fun times!
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[ checklist ]  Bluff Spring  LaBarge Spring
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Autumn Foliage Observation None
Bunch of dry grass ready to light up once again.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Bluff Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Flowing at about the same rate as your tiny Sawyer mini filter. If the pipe has not been repaired and you find a bunch of dry rust buckets, bushwhack about 30 ft through the trees following the pipe and you will find it flowing and the upper end of the pipe break.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max LaBarge Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Probably more than 1 gal per minute. Spring box is overflowing.
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Aug 31 2019
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Parker Creek Trail #160Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Did this as a spur of the moment short overnight backpacking trip. I'd had the Anchas on my list of places to hike n' camp for a while. I decided at the last minute to bail out of Mt. Wrightson to do this, but in hindsight that might have worked out better at the end of August. I actually packed for 3 days thinking I'd do the under the rim loop up to Edward Spring and maybe explore around Moody Point. I wore shorts and a T-shirt based on summer temperatures, and that proved to the the fatal flaw for this trip. :?

In August trail conditions were very overgrown so I ended up donating a bit of blood to the wilderness. Many downed trees to climb over but still made great time to the top. Because I wasn't sure about the water sources or how far I'd get, I ended up with a ridiculously heavy pack with 10 liters water - enough to last me the full 3 days.

Camping on top was spectacular, plenty of nice flat spots to setup away from the trail. No developed fire rings, but there are fire restrictions anyway. I had light rain early in the night. As soon as the sun came up, two strong monsoon storm systems converged and pushed through right over me, dropped a ton of rain, thunder and lightning 1st thing in the morning for like 90 minutes. If not for the thunder and lightning it would have lulled me back to bed.

Once the weather cleared up I was on trail by 9am, but it wasn't long before I turned around from getting badly cut up by the overgrown foliage. Had I worn full coverage clothing it would not have been bad, but would have continued to be very slow miles and kind of a slog. honestly not having much fun at that point so I dumped my extra water and went back down.

Not a total failure since I camped the one night with a beautiful sunset and starry night - you can see the milky way this time of year. I'll be going back, maybe with my trusty Silky Pocketboy saw and some shears. :lol:
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Upper South Fork Parker Creek Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Just a slight trickle, but the catchment/flow station had clear water that could be filtered.
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Aug 17 2019
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Woodchute - Martin Canyon LoopPrescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
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This one was interesting for me because I hadn't heard much about people backpacking this area before - so it was sort of an experiment. I've done it as a day hike but it was like a decade ago and couldn't remember anything about it. To be clear, for future backpackers -- good luck on finding campsites. The ones talked about in the description are in Martin Canyon and as I write this in 2019 look like they haven't been used since this guide was written in 2007. That's OK though - I found a flat-ish spot below Woodchute mountain on the pass between upper Woodchute Tank (chocolate milk aplenty) and Rick Cutoff #104; it took very little work or disturbing the land to make it suitable to pitch a tent on.

So anyway, I summited Woodchute mountain thinking I'd find a P&J forest with plenty of flat sandy spots to call home for the night. Turns out it's dense ponderosa pine - which is totally fine. The issue is that the whole top of the mountain is covered in rocks the size of bowling balls. Every time I thought I'd found a flat spot to setup camp it was nothing but a field of rocks. And then I came across the gravesite; that's the point I turned around. There is a cross with flowers out there. I'm not really superstitious, but I'm not keen on camping next to some cowboy's grave; I imagine I'm not alone. (would like to hear if anyone knows the story behind this grave).

I'm convinced had I walked off trail a mile or so to get views of Jerome I would have eventually found some flat spots to camp. 15 mins before sundown I turn tail and head back down the mountain to the trail junction, start heading towards Rick Cutoff and camp for the night. In the end I was pleased with this choice as it's always beautiful descending a canyon during magic hour. Nice, calm and seasonally warm evening - no clouds, just stars. No bear sightings - though I'd read about some very recent sightings of multiple bears up on woodchute; there was bear scat everywhere. I did spot a group of 6-7 deer galloping away from me up on top. And a fox flew across the trail right as I was about to setup camp. Tons of wildlife to be seen in this tiny wilderness.

Next morning I pack it up and head down the canyon. This is actually a cool trail (Rick cutoff #104); nice views of the Prescott area, granite mountain and beyond. You go in and out of P&J and ponderosa forest a couple times so you get a nice variety of scenery, foliage and shade coverage.

I think Joe said in a recent triplog that some hikers hate jeep roads. Myself, I'm ambivalent - I'll walk jeep roads as long as my route is still mostly trail. What I'm not keen on related to jeep roads is when car campers don't follow the language of the law and discharge their firearms a few feet from the road. That's how you wreck everyone elses' backcountry experience. I believe the law is 150 yds from any road, body of water or developed area. Up on top of martin canyon, dispersed car camping sites abound and I can't believe people would be dumb/selfish enough to have their truck parked next to the road with two guys firing pistols (all morning long btw) into trees right off the road filled with other jeep, ATV and hiker traffic!

Otherwise I really enjoyed this short overnight trip right until the point I was heading up that last crux of the jeep road and started hearing the constant gunfire. I'd had a similar experience a month before over at Knoll lake with people firing automatic weapons at sundown. This is AZ and I guess you have to expect to come across that from time to time. It's a pretty area and reminds me a lot of the scrubland you'll see on the way up to some of the southern AZ sky islands. I think I'll go back and try it again during the week to avoid the car camper gun mayhem.

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Make sure to drink your Ovaltine.
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Gila Wilderness loop NM, NM 
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If you'd like to check out a thoroughly documented video of this trip, please see my Youtube channel here: [ youtube video ]

This was actually a loop involving both the middle fork and west fork of the Gila River with Jackson Mesa traversed in between to link them together. There is no comprehensive guide of this loop that I'm aware of, so I'm calling this "West Fork" because that part was the most scenic and the longest single section that was hiked.

Depending on who you ask, which map you consult or different GPSs, this loop is anywhere from 50 to 60 miles; I realize that is a wide margin of error; I'm not sure why it's like that out there. I did it in 6 days, but it would have been more enjoyable as a 7 day trip. This is a common route used by backpackers to make a loop out of both of these scenic river canyons.

All mileages below are approximate. Trail junction signs out there are not accurate, as I later found out.

Day 1: (6.5 miles) - Middle Fork Trailhead to Little Bear Canyon
Day 2: (8.5 miles) - Middle Fork from Little Bear Canyon to The Meadows
Day 3: (12 miles) - Trail #28 (name?) The Meadows > Prior Cabin > summited Jackson Mesa > down to Lilley Park
Day 4: (7.5 miles) - Trotter Trail #30 down to The West Fork > West Fork Trail #151 to Hell's Hole
Day 5: (10 miles) - West Fork Tr. #151, eastward to about 3 miles west of the Gila Cliff Dwellings
Day 6: (5 miles) - West Fork Tr. #151, 3 miles to Gila Cliff Dwellings then road walk 2 miles back to the car

As I did this trip in the middle of June, it was warm - but not unbearably so for someone who lives in Phoenix. I'd say the highest temp was around 92 F on day 1. From there temperatures gradually became lower as I ascended the river canyon, with highs in the 70s at my day 3 camp at Lilly Park. Ultimately it could have been over 100 degrees and still would have been fine as you are constantly in and out of the cool clear water. There is also frequent shade from tree cover and tall canyon walls.

Speaking of that, within the first 6 miles on day one I crossed the middle fork of the gila no less than 30 times before making camp. Water levels were anywhere from barely ankle deep to just below knee deep. In my book this is most ideal for river hiking - just deep enough for it to be fun. My understanding is during spring snowmelt, river levels can get dangerously high but are usually manageable. Based on my experience and others', it seems like the sweet spot to do this loop would be sometime in late May. A few crossings in the west fork were very slippery and the most slippery parts happened to also be the deepest. I almost fell in at a couple spots but luckily stayed dry below the waist for the entire trip.

I wore a pair of Merrell Choprock shoes for this trip which were previously tested in The Gulch in Utah. I gotta say Merrell knocked it out of the park with these river hiking shoes - that is their exact marketed purpose. I didn't even bring sandals or other camp shoes. They are almost completely dry within an hour of exiting water but provide the same traction, protection and support that regular hiking shoes provide. I wore Darn Tough socks while hiking and had an extra pair to switch out while the 1st pair was drying. I wore them sans socks at camp while they were drying out; I wouldn't do this in the winter.

The trails were in excellent condition. Bushwhacking was at a minimum and it was never at any point difficult to find the way. Anywhere you were within the drainage, there were big cairns you cannot miss.

Day 1: I departed middle fork trailhead - river crossings were immediate and frequent. As many as 7 or 8 or more per mile! At first there are no canyon walls to speak of - it's actually not very scenic at all out the gate. But within the first mile you are in deep! Walls a couple hundred feet high quickly envelope you. I made camp just east of little bear canyon at a spot immediately next to and above the middle fork. So I was able to have a fire; that site reminded me of the kind of place you'd see in a Mark Twain novel. In the evening a guy was seen walking down the river casting a fly. Said he caught nothin'!

Day 2: I continued up the middle fork - canyon walls by now are hundreds of feet high; you get these spires that just blow you away. It seriously rivals places like the Canyons of the Escalante or what you see in Canyonlands NP. I briefly visited Jordan Hot Springs via the short 1/4 mi spur trail off the middle fork. Clear blue water. Though I did not dunk myself in the hot springs as I had a cut on my leg from the day before and the forest service warns against going into hot springs in the area. The hot springs are known to contain a fatal meningitis causing bacteria that can infect you via submersion of your face/nostrils and/or open cuts. Continuing on, I made camp at The Meadows. By now, oaks and cottonwoods are giving way to taller more robust ponderosa pines of the higher elevations sections of the canyon. Still next to the river it was another night punctuated by clear skies and a roaring fire for me.

Day 3: This was the "big day" of the trip. From the Meadows I immediately climbed about 1200 ft to the mesa top within 1 mi. The altitude was punishing for this lowlander! At the top, this area reminded me quite a bit of the sort of combined pinion/ponderosa forests you see in the low areas near Flagstaff. I continued on to Prior Cabin where I found water to filter at Prior Spring. My original plan called on camping by Prior Cabin for a total of 7 days, and this would have a nice practical decision given the water nearby. But it was only 2pm by that point and I decided I hadn't punished myself enough on this trip yet :) so I continued the tough never ending climb to the top of Jackson Mesa - which was weird because although it was higher elevation than the surrounding areas, it was more desert/scrub-like. Eventually I got down to Lilly Park, which I swear looks exactly like Yellowstone - tall grasses, meadows and stands of pine. Lows got down into the high 40s / low 50s up there in June - this was close to 8000ft elevation, up from 6200ft where I started the day at the Meadows.

Day 4: I depart Lilly Park via Trotter Trail #30. After a brief climb of 300 ft in dense ponderosa forest, you come to another small mesa top where the entire basin and west fork of the gila river can be seen. You can see Whitewater Baldy topping out around 10,880ft from this viewpoint. The descent down into the west fork involves what to me felt like about 20 switchbacks, no joke. Some of them felt sketchy - at times you are on a thin slice of exposed trail no more than a couple feet wide with steep scree slopes above and below you. A fall on Trotter Trail would be serious. At the bottom about 3 miles into the day I immediately crossed the West Fork of the Gila River which I noticed is deeper than the middle fork. Where the middle fork was never more than mid-calf, the west fork is frequently mid-calf to knee deep during low water. After traversing another low lying meadow and a few more river crossings, I then climb again a significant amount. You hug the cliffs overlooking a narrow part of the west fork for a couple miles before descending back to the river again. My guess is the trail was built this way to account for the frequent flash floods that move through the area. I make camp immediately east of the Hell's Hole area again very close to the river so I was able to have another big toasty fire.

Day 5: By far the most scenic section of the trip -- if I had to pick just one section to hike out there, the West Fork between the Cliff Dwellings and Hells Hole would be it! Again, crossings are frequent, as many as 10 crossings per mile! So whatever mileages you are used to, cut your expected mph in half. I'd say 2 mph is optimistic because you'll be stopping every 10 minutes to take photos. I actually came across some cliff dwellings way high up and actually camped below some right next to a big swimming hole. Home for the night was a fully stocked outfitter camp. Some rather large logs went into my bonfire for the final night. The sunset turned already epic cliff views into peachy gold goodness you only expect to see in a place like Bryce Canyon.

Day 6: The least scenic day was really just about getting back to the car. I made short work of the 5 miles. Most of it was road walking but I really didn't mind considering how quiet the area was.

I'll be going back to the Gila Wilderness to experience what these river canyons offer: solitude, amazing views, challenging hiking, cool clear water, and some of the best 5-star campsites I've made home while backpacking.

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Big Loop Around Weaver's Needle, AZ 
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This was a 3 day backpacking trip starting at Peralta TH, encompassing portions of Miner's Needle Loop, Bluff Spring Trail, Dutchman Trail down into LaBarge Canyon through Marsh Valley, using Cavalry trail and Boulder Canyon Tr to loop back from north to South; connecting back up with Dutchman #104 and finishing up by taking Peralta Tr. #102 south back to Peralta TH.

Route: https://caltopo.com/m/1EUS

Day 1 miles: 9.2 - Camp Charlebois Spring
Day 2 miles: 8.4 - Camp East Boulder Canyon
Day 3 miles: 6.4
Total miles: 24
Note: I based mileages off of what my GPS told me I hiked. The mapped route shows slightly lower mileages.

Day 1: Peralta TH > Dutchman Tr > Bluff Springs Tr > Dutchman Tr > Charlebois Spring (low camp)

Started at the Peralta Trailhead on the 1st Thursday in April. Weather was mostly sunny with a small dose of partly cloudy. Those clouds were a godsend as the high was mid to high 80s. The trailhead was packed as usual, though much busier than I had expected for a Thursday, parking was not a problem. Out the gate I hang a right onto Dutchman trail #104, as one would do to complete Miner's Needle Loop from the counter clockwise direction. I was pleasantly surprised shortly up trail to see a healthy water flow where Barks Canyon crosses Dutchman. I did a trip exactly a year ago in 2018 in the western Supes and the only water whatsoever at the time was Charlebois & LaBarge Springs; 2019 is turning out to be a garden year!

I saw no less than three snakes all of different species (unfortunately no pics!) on the climb up to Bluff Springs -- a black snake, green snake and a super fat long diamondback with its lower end sticking out across the width of the trail. Tossed a rock in its general direction and it didn't move an inch. Started smacking my trekking pole on the ground next to it -- thing wouldn't move a muscle... was it dead? I throw another rock and it slithers off the trail. Sneaky!

Up on top you get some fantastic views of Barkley basin, coffee flat trail and in the distance, a shimmer of the water drainage exiting out the souther portion of the wilderness. Though my original plan involved taking Whiskey Springs to Red Tanks into LaBarge and then west, I have been recovering from an LCL/IT band injury in my knee and decided to keep it under 10 miles per day. So at the top I instead head north along Dutchman Trail towards Bluff Spring. I love this section between the top of Miners needle and Bluff Springs. I can't quite put my finger on why I like this area so much - I guess it has to do with the dichotomy of how much you just climbed and how flat it all seems up there. At the junction of Dutchman & Bluff, passing by Crystal Spring there was another flow of water in the drainage, though it was more akin to a trickle and I believe the drainage will soon be dried up. I passed by the beautiful tree covered campsite that triggered memories of sitting there with my poor knee in pain from 6 weeks before, where I had been hiking in freezing rain and hail, fording LaBarge canyon up to my knees with a 38 degree high temp - what a difference a few weeks makes, weather changes so quick in the desert.

Bluff Springs Trail was full of tall grasses in full green bloom. Lots of bee activity helping to keep my moving speed up. And plenty of water was still flowing from the high desert down into LaBarge. Basically I followed Bluff until I met back up with Dutchman Trail next to LaBarge Spring. I didn't go up to the spring proper but there was still water flowing the entire length of LaBarge canyon. Again - this was totally dry a year before. Thankfully all 5 (6?) creek crossings were uneventful, easy rock hopping. I arrived to Charlebois Spring and picked the low camp for the night. Mountain House Biscuits and Gravy I think it was? If you ask me their breakfast offerings are far superior for any meal of the day compared to the non-breakfast offerings... Anyway, the trail to the high camp at Charlie boi is already becoming overgrown. and bug pressure is increasing, hence my decision to stop at the site just off Dutchman for the night. I do backpacking trips in the Superstitions about once or twice a month and this is the 1st trip I've done where I could go sans rain-fly in about 4 months. It was a beautiful cloudless night. First time using a phone app called Sky Guide (you *want* this app if you're into backpacking / camping); especially if you have trouble sleeping - just lay in your tent, look at the stars with this app in hand and learn what star or planet is what up there.

Day 2: Charlebois Spring > Dutchman Tr > Cavalry Tr > Boulder Canyon Tr > Dutchman Tr > Camp at East Boulder Canyon below Black Top Mesa Climb

After a Greenbelly bar and hot coffee I hit the trail on day 2 around 9:30am. I followed Dutchman Trail northwest and noted how green everything was - the cottonwoods in LaBarge Canyon that often have yellow/red leaves were really just this vibrant bright green; the trail cut through tall knee high grasses. A mile in I turn right onto Cavalry trail -- this just might be my favorite trail in all of the Superstition Wilderness. The 1st time you hike it I'd say do it coming from the west/boulder canyon side - the view into Marsh Valley from that direction is a surprise and a treat. Today I would be going from the east side, using Cavalry to loop from north to south. LaBarge Canyon was still flowing its entire length, but water levels were fairly low; rock hopping again was easy - lots of green/yellow algae hanging out in the drainage. I saw one other hiker the entire day and this guy said he had seen a couple snakes. I saw none that day though. There is a towering lone cottonwood tree with a large boulder wedged up against it in one of the LaBarge crossing points - with a little sand bar in the middle. This was a good place to filter and top off my water as the high was about 88 degrees; I hung out under the shade of this tree for a bit, ate some snacks. I am very thankful for the amount of water flowing at the moment, allowing me to travel fast and light with only a couple liters of water carried at a time.

As Cavalry turns west towards the Red Hills it climbs up over a pass in order to drop down into Boulder Canyon -- I knew what was to come, as my recent knee injury makes flat hiking & easy climbing no problem, but steep climbs & descents are pretty agonizing. When you are injured going downhill, trekking poles are a requirement and that is the only way I got down into boulder. Since it's been dry recently, Cavalry's descent into Boulder Canyon Tr. #103 was full of the dreaded loose over hard terrain where every step is annoyingly slippery and ends up taking longer than the climb up.

At the junction of Cavalry & Boulder Canyon I rested my knee for a few minutes at a well hidden campsite I have stayed at in the past. Then followed Boulder Canyon Trail southward. This is a trail that I hated at first due to the number of boulder laden creek crossings. But I've come around and really enjoy this trail now. Water was flowing its entire length and there are some cool campsites along the way. Some kid was boulder hopping in the drainage proper off trail; met his parents further down at the second to last creek crossing before Boulder meets up with Dutchman. They apparently were doing a 3 day basecamping trip and were unaware of how far down the water went - they were pretty surprised when I told them you can often follow this water all the way to Canyon Lake.

Back on dutchman I headed left (east) and finished up the last mile climbing up East Boulder Canyon - a trail I have done so many times I sometimes forget to take in the views -- really one of the more beautiful places in this wilderness. At the foot of the climb up to Black Top Mesa Pass I took the little side trail to the last camping area. This was a fairly short day - I was all setup at camp by 2pm and kind of sat there using my rainfly as a ground tarp (don't do this if you care about your gear) to take advantage of the sliver of shade the lone large tree in the area was providing in the heat of the day. The entire afternoon was spent fighting off ticks, black flies and mosquitos. I used up almost an entire ounce of DEET on this afternoon alone! Also, if you are going to rehydrate your own veggies - don't be in a rush to eat lunch. Give it time! Crunchy peas are fine, but crunchy corn and green beans are weird when mixed into mashed potatoes with tuna :| (meh...)

Backpackers Pantry Pad Thai for dinner was much nicer. I had a fire and hung out with my Sky Guide app in hand. I ate while the sun went down and got a little worried that I would have cowboys for company, but they passed me by and headed up Black Top Mesa pass. I was surprised to see them going up such a sketchy section of trail on horseback so late in the day. The rock walls of Black Top Mesa have never looked more beautiful basked in the peachy evening light. Surprisingly, it ended up raining at about 3AM - I scrambled to get the rainfly on but thankfully I woke up when it was only a slight drizzle. It rained on and off for the rest of the night until about 7am. Note that the closest forecast you can get is in Apache Junction, where 0% rain is forecast. The Superstitions routinely get rain when there is none in the valley.

Day 3: Dutchman Trail > Peralta Tr. #102 > Back to Car

The final day was straightforward. I got up nice and early at first light and opened my tent up as soon as the rain stopped around 7am. I choked down another Greenbelly bar (they are honestly good meal replacements but very dense eating) and had my coffee and was back on the trail by 8:30. By now anytime I went downhill my knee would loudly tell me to stop doing that! But there were 6.4 miles of trail left back to the car; the descent down from Fremont Saddle was what I was really dreading. Peralta Trail, being probably the most popular trail in the Superstition Wilderness by far - I normally avoid it; I think it was a year since the last time I did it and never hiked the full length of it before. The views simply cannot be beat - there is a good reason it's such a popular trail. Especially with how green everything was at this moment in Spring. My knee thanked me for stopping every 5 minutes to snap photos of Weaver's Needle from its various angles, and the views back towards East Boulder Canyon. On the flat section between the initial climb up and before climbing to Fremont Saddle, you only see a few hikers. Most people stop at Fremont Saddle and turn around up there. I took a short detour to the campsite by Piper Spring. Water was definitely flowing over there but the little side trail to get down to it sucks. I turned around, not wanting to gamble with an already screaming left knee. On the final push of switchbacks up to Fremont Saddle I helped a confused hiker to assess that she was indeed on Peralta #102 and yes she should turn right at Dutchman to do the Weaver's Needle loop hike. At the top I kind of just kept pressing on past the crowds but did stop briefly to snap photos of the hoodoos and needles that define the area. Someday I'd like to incorporate Cave Trail into this multi-day hike, looked like a couple people were heading in that direction.

So, looking down into Peralta Canyon my fate became clear. Time to take out my trekking pole and hobble on down. I was a trooper. That dang knee was screaming the whole way down - I forgot it was basically all rock steps to the bottom. There is a technique, you know, for hiking with a bum knee. Why did it take me weeks to figure this out?? Always lead the step down with your bad knee and brace/launch off of the step with your good knee. This is contrary to how one would imagine it should work, but it did take the brunt of the force off. Amazingly I still flew by most of the day hikers. I think I just wanted to get down as fast as possible to be done with the pain. Hopefully in a few months I can leave another trip report not peppered with reports of my aching knee! Right near the trailhead, probably 500ft from it a loud rattlesnake was warning passers-by that it exists! It was off in the rocks well off trail but that didn't stop several hikers from turning tail back to the car. Instead of Bluff Springs or Dutchman they just got straight in their cars and took off! At the trailhead I had a leisurely conversation with the ranger about snake stuff, trail stuff, how long he thinks the water will stay around. Great trip overall, though I probably will not finish on Peralta on a weekend again - that trail is a victim of its own popularity. If I did this particular loop again it would probably be clockwise instead of counterclockwise.
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Wildflowers Observation Substantial
Blooming everywhere

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Water flow along the length of East Boulder Canyon - easy to find good water just off trail. Just completely dry at the point where Dutchman #104 crosses the drainage just south of the Peralta #102 junction.

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Kane Gulch to Junction with Grand GulchSoutheast, UT
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This hike was wayy off-season. The goal was originally to travel from the Kane Gulch ranger station to the junction with Bullet Canyon and would have made the entire trip over 20 miles. Normally this mileage is not a problem. However, it being the very last week of the off-season, no single BLM ranger had been down there for months. In fact, the entire 3 days I spent in the canyon I saw one person total, a friendly guy on a day hike who himself told me I was the first person he has seen in over 3 weeks of hiking around Cedar Mesa. The place is truly remote and even more-so in the off-season. The rangers actually asked me detailed questions about the conditions once I got back to my car -- I guess a big flash flood had come through sometime a month before. And man, it showed...

The bushwhack was what I would call epic -- to the point I felt like about 50% of the time it was "trail" but was actually straight up off-trail. The other 50% of the time you are walking in the drainage, avoiding the occasional deep mud puddles that will eat you up to your ankles. I averaged about a mile per hour and by the end of a 5 mile day down to the junction of Grand Gulch -- by Junction Ruin, I was pretty cut up and exhausted. The "trail" meanders in and out of the gulch every few hundred feet - the repetition being: hike drainage, cross over onto a trail made of deep beach sand, then cross back over and hike the drainage once again. Compounded with the bushwhacking, it made the hiking slow work.

After day 1 it was pretty clear I wasn't reaching Bullet Canyon, and the weather forecast was turning to thunderstorms in a couple days -- so I decided to make it a 3 day adventure instead of 4. No one wants to be stranded in a deep canyon when flash floods are likely!

Day two was more interesting, I decided I would hike down canyon for as long as possible until I decided it wasn't a good idea any more. Also at that point, I decided to begin avoiding the trail and just hiking the drainage where possible -- this was much faster and possible for most of hiking the gulch south of Kane Gulch. I visited Turkey Pen Ruin and then some other small ruin hidden away off a use trail that I could not find the name of -- about a mile or two NW of Toadie. I did make it pretty close to Toadie Canyon - but was cut short by clouds moving in. At that point it was around noon; time to turn around and high tail it to a high-ground campsite just a short distance north-east of the junction between Kane and Grand (this site was awesome by the way); it is along the final goose-neck of Kane Gulch before it enters Grand Gulch -- look for a use trail traveling upwards about 20 ft off the main trail, heading east. The views are spectacular as you are somewhat raised up from the bottom of the gulch but being in a gooseneck, you feel close to the canyon walls and it was easy to make sounds echo.

Day 3, not so epic- just a short 4 miles back to the car at the ranger station. Only got lost once, staying in the drainage too long and ended up *under* the boulders below the big pour-off. You don't want to go down there. It is a mess of deep mud and slick boulder hopping. If you find yourself doing that in Kane - you've missed a cairn somewhere. Turn around and go find the cairn. Luckily the clouds were just a warning and it did not end up raining at all the entire trip... However I camped that night up on the mesa top and it rained. In the morning I found three -- yes three giant thunder storm systems beginning to converge right over Cedar Mesa. If I had been down in the canyon on the fourth day like my original plan, it would have been a problem for sure. Ultimately I would only ever go back to Kane/Grand/Bullet during the on-season. Off season may appeal to the most adventurous among us.
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Garden Valley LoopPhoenix, AZ
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In mid February - started on a cloudy day about 1:30pm from the Weaver's needle overlook parking lot off of the AZ88, due to my little Hyundai being a bad choice for dirt roads after a recent storm. I didn't know for certain whether day hikers are allowed to park there, but were zero signs regarding fees, passes, tow-aways or similar. I took the chance on this paved lot and had no problems with my car still being there at the end of the hike. It appears to be a popular shuttle starting point for equestrian users. To get to the actual trail, I started on the paved path to the overlook. Half way to the overlook point, an obvious connector trail veers off to the right - this is the entry-point to the hike; there was some post-holing from equestrian users, but not a terrible amount.

If you start from the same lot, the hike to garden valley down to hackberry spring via 1st water and back as a loop becomes about 10 miles; just be aware this is significantly longer than the regular 5-7 mi hike popularly posted under Garden Valley / Hackberry Springs. It took me around 4 hours for this hike, but I tend to hoof it. I would say 4-6 hours is good range to be safe.

After a 1.5 mile roller coaster of hills with epic westerly views of the superstition range, the connector eventually took me to 1st water Trailhead parking. Exiting the parking lot south, I took a left onto the dirt road and then immediate right for the entrance to Dutchman Trail #104. This part of dutchman roughly follows 1st water road for a short distance to the smaller Hackberry Spring parking lot where the 'official' loop begins - if you are doing a counter clockwise loop as I did. From there it is essentially the same hike people experience on the Hackberry Springs/Garden Valley Loop.

Once reaching Garden Valley about 90 minutes into the hike I experienced a bit of panic; behind me an ominous witches brew of low dark cloud cover and heavy winds formed out of nowhere and headed my way; by that point it was clear I was pretty much the only person out there; but then the isolation is part of why we do back-country hikes, right? As invasive thoughts about lightning and canyon flash floods began to fill my head - with only a camelbak and thin pullover with me, it finally began to clear up as I started descending out of garden valley and into the next canyon towards 1st water.

Two days prior the valley experienced a steady day of rain. Not having done a low canyon hike in the superstitions so recently after heavy rain, I wasn't sure what to expect. But 1st water was surprisingly dry, with lingering pools - some of it clear, some it pretty green; if I was doing an overnight there would have been enough water to filter. There were no issues keeping my feet dry following the creek to the bottom. After completing some boulder hops I was at the bottom of the canyon, lingered for a while chatting with a friendly backpacker over where hackberry spring is (we heard the water trickling but I couldn't find the source... someone clue me in!).

The hike out of 1st water canyon was a bit confusing to me, as I didn't realize beforehand it was going to be a fair amount of off trail for that part. I turned off onto the right-hand west fork of 1st water canyon - placing some trust in my GPS and stumbling over the river rocks, hopping a couple pools of fresh rainwater before meeting back up with the trail out... Surprisingly no cairns over there. When going solo and both the trail and cairns disappear it feels like a bit of an adventure; but it was clear there were multiple exits shortly down the creek. 65-70 degrees the whole time with cloudy skies - doesn't get much comfier than that!
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Guthrie MountainTucson, AZ
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Coming from Phoenix, we originally wanted a morning start but didn't get in to Tucson until after 12:00. The closeness of Nimbus Bistro & Brewery to the turn off for Catalina Hwy tempted us ;) so we didn't even get to the trailhead until about 2:30pm.

Finding the trailhead was easy: a map of the Green Mountain trail is very clearly marked on a big/colorful sign next to the parking area. This being mid-afternoon in December, we encountered not a single other soul on the trail going up, but we did see a couple people heading back. If you are seeking solitude, this seems a great way to find it! The majority of the trail was clearly marked and surprisingly well maintained. In areas where you walk across large granite slabs, there are some cairns which are hardly necessary.

If you're from Phoenix or otherwise low country, this hike may be a little challenging due to the elevation - we were huffing an puffing whenever walking up an incline, but there was nothing technically challenging aside from a very easy scramble in the last leg of the journey. The views are indeed spectacular, and there are some epic drop-offs to get your adrenaline going on the final ridgeline to the top. 4:00pm in the late fall is wonderful time to capture a breathtaking sunset from high in the Catalinas.

However, as we approached maybe 10 mins walk from the campsites on the return trip we came across some creepiness: right in the middle of the trail, a large circle made of twigs and leaves with some green onions (?) were laid down. This wasn't there when we departed, so it was creepy as hell and at that point my partner and I high tailed it back to the car, another 15 minutes away as it was getting dark by then. Anyone else seen anything like that before? Probably just some campers messing around.

By 5:40 we were down and back to the car right as twilight was waning. It was definitely worth the trip!
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