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May 09 2020
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Dorsey Spring Trail #7Sedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
Hiking avatar May 09 2020
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Hiking5.88 Miles 1,313 AEG
Hiking5.88 Miles   2 Hrs   58 Mns   2.16 mph
1,313 ft AEG      15 Mns Break
 
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I'd always wanted to check out this area, and we figured that this was a pretty good way to social distance. Let me start with DON'T USE GOOGLE MAPS and/or GOOGLE DIRECTIONS to get to this trailhead. It took us down some downright almost impassable forest roads which looked like "shortcuts". Fortunately I have a Jeep; however we still turned around twice. I did submit an edit to the TH directions so hopefully they are good now. It's really pretty simple though there's a lot of miles on gravel and dirt roads.

Now for the hike! We parked at Casner Tank right near the intersection of FR 538G and 538E, and walked down the (very rutted) 538E to the official Dorsey TH, where we signed the register. The hike was lovely with lots of spring flowers (small, don't know what they were) as well as some surprise irises at Dorsey Spring. It's about 3 miles to Dorsey Springs from where we parked. The first 2 miles were pretty well forested, with a subtle decline you'll notice more if you come back the same way. There is a lot of shade (not total, bring a hat) and some massive alligator junipers along the way. At about 2 miles, you drop into a fairly steep draw which takes you quickly down about 400' in elevation over the next mile to Dorsey Spring. We found this section mostly good, definitely shady, but slippery in a few places from loose soil and pine needles. It's totally doable but hiking poles are good here. We turned around at the spring, which was flowing well from the spigot. The irises just downstream were a plus. After a snack break, we turned around and headed back the way we came. We HAD intended to do Dorsey/Kelsey to Winter Cabin/Hog Hill back to the TH, but Google took us SO out of our way we were literally about two hours late from when we should have gotten there. Looks like nice oaks and maples around spring for fall color possibilities.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Casner Tank 51-75% full 51-75% full
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Dorsey Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
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Shiprock - Black MountainsNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 07 2020
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Hiking6.06 Miles 774 AEG
Hiking6.06 Miles   3 Hrs   8 Mns   2.22 mph
774 ft AEG      24 Mns Break
 
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Well, I took my hiking group out for this hike after testing it two weeks earlier on a very, very rainy day. This time, it was sunny. Also this time: the gate for the road was gone, and new wire put up (not barbed) but definitely not a gate! We had to park at the dirt area outside the former gate just off US 93, which wasn't as nice since you end up leaving cars on view at the side of a very busy road, where there's no shade.

We all made it under/through/over the fence, which incidentally was not posted any type of "no trespassing" so I don't know what the deal is. Most of the land is BLM or wilderness. There were some broken automobile headlights on the ground, so wondering if someone rammed the gate and this was just a stopgap until they get a new one installed?

Anyway...the hike was gorgeous. We stopped at the high point of a ridge behind Shiprock where you could see a hoodoo in a neighboring canyon. We did not go further, but you can follow the old road higher up, and I plan to one day soon. We have various abilities in the hiking group so this was enough for today. The road is easy to follow and we did try a shortcut on the way out across the wash, but there was so much brush and catclaw that we decided not to do it on the way back, so that's what you see on the GPS.

Sorry I don't have a good pic of the former gate/fence: forgot with trying to get through/over it! There is one pic where it's in the background.
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Copper Cactus Ranch LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 29 2020
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Hiking5.09 Miles 389 AEG
Hiking5.09 Miles   4 Hrs   18 Mns   1.22 mph
389 ft AEG      7 Mns Break
 
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This hike is a great 5-mile loop from the private Copper Cactus Ranch. You can only do this loop if you're a guest, since a good portion of it is across their private property (and directly through the guest area).

I recommend only doing this hike by following a GPS route on your phone....download Route Scout for free if you need one, search for this loop by name on HikeArizona.com, click on "send to Route Scout", open the app, and set to follow!

This hike is all in wash corridors except for the portion on a little used road. There isn't a whole lot of actual trail to follow, and you do need to know which washes to follow, so please use a GPS route. But the canyon is very pretty, with some wonderful rock formations, cacti, and water if it's been a rainy winter. There is one point where you'll come across a barbed wire fence across the wash. When we hiked this, there was an orange tag on the portion of the fence that was easiest to get under, and it wasn't that difficult. The fence is to keep cattle in/out (you may find cowpies on this hike too) due to the ranching in the area.

PS the timing on this hike took less time than 4 hours. We veered off further up Whitlow Canyon to start with, but had to backtrack due to high water and barbed wire we just couldn't find a way around. The barbed wire we did get around was in the canyon to the east of Whitlow, and is mapped on this hike.

Don't miss the stunning views to the north when walking on the road!
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Feb 22 2020
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Shiprock - Black MountainsNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 22 2020
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Hiking6.11 Miles 884 AEG
Hiking6.11 Miles   3 Hrs   6 Mns   2.14 mph
884 ft AEG      15 Mns Break
 
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This hike was for me to test out a planned hike for my hiking group. Well, it was raining. A LOT. All over the state! So of course, we did it anyway.

We parked inside the gate (see my later triplog from 3/7/20 for updated info...gate is now a fence and there's no vehicular access) about 1/8 mile at an obvious turnaround before a sandy wash. You can get further down the road if you have good 4 wheel drive and a high clearance vehicle, but this hike has great views from the start so we didn't see the point.

There were so many little cascades and running washes though! Parts of the road were very squishy and muddy, but could be avoided if you paid attention (if). The very large main wash at the base of Shiprock was not running, not sure what it takes to make it do that because we had a lot of widespread rain that whole day!
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 Phoenix, AZ
Pipeline Canyon TrailPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 07 2018
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Hiking4.83 Miles 971 AEG
Hiking4.83 Miles   2 Hrs   25 Mns   2.12 mph
971 ft AEG      8 Mns Break
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View Point-North Mingus LoopPrescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
Hiking avatar May 20 2017
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Hiking4.09 Miles 1,264 AEG
Hiking4.09 Miles   2 Hrs   16 Mns   1.96 mph
1,264 ft AEG      11 Mns Break
 
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Well I've been wanting to try this one for a while! I really enjoyed it. Views were spectacular for most of the hike route....really clear out today.

I do want to comment on something I hadn't seen recently in any triplogs. This hike has a significant downhill and uphill (1100' roughly). It's pretty steep if you start of counterclockwise from the day use area at the viewpoint. On this hike, there were many sections of the downhill which had very loose rock and soil. I was very glad to have a hiking pole with me. This trail is rarely more than 12" wide at any point, and it's on the side of steep hill, so generally you want to keep your footings as solid as possible.

I apologize for forgetting to turn on Route Scout for the first 1/4 mile :o

Thistle and hollyhocks were beautiful today!
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Apr 01 2017
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Buckskin Gulch TH to Wire PassSouthwest, UT
Southwest, UT
Canyoneering avatar Apr 01 2017
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Canyoneering9.93 Miles 875 AEG
Canyoneering9.93 Miles   3 Hrs   47 Mns   2.71 mph
875 ft AEG      7 Mns Break
 
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See my triplog for the previous day, March 31, 2017 for more details. This is the photoset for the following day...April 1, 2017, when we retraced our steps because House Rock Valley road was solid sticky mud from Buckskin Gulch TH to Wire Pass.

I put my 2015 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk in 4WD and still was fishtailing....because my treads and wheel wells were solid with sticky clay! Plan B then....redo Buckskin Gulch to Wire Pass, and then travel downstream in Buckskin Gulch until we decide to turn around...which was at the first pool of water we got to, about a mile south of the Wire Pass confluence.

It was worth redoing....the day was sunnier, though the wash and the slot way more wet (with water still running) than the day prior.
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Buckskin Gulch TH to Wire PassSouthwest, UT
Southwest, UT
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Canyoneering9.86 Miles 598 AEG
Canyoneering9.86 Miles   3 Hrs   50 Mns   2.65 mph
598 ft AEG      7 Mns Break
 
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This hike was a scouting event for a future group hike. I took a good friend along and we first stopped off at the BLM Paria Contact Station on Route 89, where they told us House Rock Valley road was quite sticky and rutted past the Buckskin Gulch TH (i.e. the rest of the way to the more popular trailhead, Wire Pass). So we decided to go see how bad the condition of road was from 89 to Buckskin Gulch TH. Just after leaving the contact station, we picked up an Australian hitchhiker who we had seen loading his pack at his car near the contact station. Turned out he was going to do the Buckskin-Paria loop back to the contact station, so we had some additional company for a while!

The road was fine to Buckskin Gulch TH--we didn't try past that, so I don't know the condition--this day. Keep reading.

We unloaded and started out as light snow flurries started coming. Well, at least they wouldn't cause a flood, right? We thoroughly enjoyed all of the sandstone formations, the same types as a bit further south in the Coyote Buttes area. There are many trails which "shortcut" the corners of the wash, but you can follow the wash all the way if you want. Some of the sand in the wash wasn't as easy to walk on so we took a few of the shortcuts.

About 3 miles in we got to the beginning of the famous Buckskin Gulch slot canyon. It's pretty cool coming in this way...it's a gradual narrowing, and when the slot is only about 30' deep you get excited because it's starting. Then it gets deeper...and deeper....and darker, and very cool. This area, still upstream of the Wire Pass confluence, is very scenic and far less rocky than the Buckskin Gulch slot downstream from Wire Pass. But I'm getting ahead.

We arrived at the confluence with Wire Pass, which is pretty obvious. We found the trail register, which is near the faint petroglyphs on the south side of the Wire Pass canyon, left of the big arch. We then hiked a bit up Wire Pass to see what it was all about, and yes, it's pretty darn narrow! Very cool.

At this point, our Australian friend (Felix) set off on the rest of his hike while me and my friend returned the way we came...with a bit better weather as the day went on.

The next day was intended to be a hike from Wire Pass into Buckskin, and then further downstream in Buckskin, but that was not to be as the rain happened again overnight and getting to Wire Pass was not possible. House Rock Valley Road was impassable south of Buckskin Gulch TH, even with a Jeep Cherokee in 4WD--too much sticky clay. So we ended up redoing this same hike (on a sunnier day) but in a much wetter canyon, and went a bit below Wire Pass.

This hike is very much worth doing....I know a lot of people want to "get right in the slot" at Wire Pass, but consider this version. You get the slot canyon, but a lot of other gorgeous scenery too.

I also want to thank ddgrunning for his excellent trail report for his Buckskin-Paria hike earlier this month! Was really helpful to read such a recent triplog in planning this hike.
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Jan 09 2016
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 Phoenix, AZ
Massacre FallsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 09 2016
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Hiking5.50 Miles 1,187 AEG
Hiking5.50 Miles
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Not much I can say different from my last triplog in 2014, except that it was much cooler out! Falls were running, and it was very busy. Some groups clearly were told "there's a falls" and didn't have much idea about hiking etiquette, including not whooping and yelling all the time, but oh well. Was still a gorgeous day for a hike.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Black Mesa Loop - Superstition MtnsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 19 2015
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Hiking9.26 Miles 1,172 AEG
Hiking9.26 Miles
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I had hiked this loop maybe 6-7 years ago, as the first "long" hike I had ever done, and found it quite thrilling that I enjoyed it as much as I did. Since then, I've done longer hikes, but I did want to try this out again.

Well, I seem to remember it being more interesting than it was! LOL. There are some views of Weaver's Needle but this hike doesn't have the most dramatic needle viewpoints. I thought I might see Battleship Mountain towards Boulder Canyon...nope. Or Four Peaks. Nope. All obscured by other land formations. There are some nice canyons, interesting rock formations, and clearly some water when water is flowing...many wash crossings that were dry for me on this hike.

Anyway...it's a nice hike...just not the most exciting. Maybe next time I'll take the route through Boulder Canyon instead of over Black Mesa and see what that does for me!
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Crescent Moon TrailSedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 01 2015
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I would have posted a GPS track had I not been giddy with excitement over the tons of New Year's Day snow and forgot to track my hike!

First of all, when I arrived I had to backtrack about a half mile down Chavez Ranch Road to the last intersection to find a legal place to park. Everything was still snowed under and they were plowing the parking areas, so the entry gate was closed. This I did not mind as only the hardy and persistent ones were in the park :) And it saved me $$$...

It was gorgeous, and just before the sun started to come out. Every tree was coated with snow, and there was about 6-8" on the ground. Just fantastic. I'll let the pictures speak for themselves!

I left when more people started to show up who looked like they were just out for a nice lunch as opposed to being in a proper outfit to hike in snow...I figured the parking lot opened, and I was right...
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Dec 13 2014
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302-1A-VOAZ loop, AZ 
302-1A-VOAZ loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Dec 13 2014
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Those of us lucky enough to live in the Phoenix area have the benefit of living within driving distance of so many parks and preserves with trails--Piestewa, Camelback, North Mountain, Shaw Butte, South Mountain, Pinnacle Peak, McDowell Mountains are all fine examples. We enjoy the trails, and some of them become our 'old standbys'. We probably do them mostly out of convenience because we've memorized each incline, switchback, notable tree, bench, and viewpoint. But we probably don't get excited about them like we do when we find a new, exotic trail somewhere else.

This is why I like to hike known trails in inclement weather. I do this loop often on weekdays after work because it has some nice sunset views and some good elevation change, and it's not far from me. On Sunday, with thunder rumbling, I hiked this loop again. And got soaked...and hailed on. From a small cell mostly over just the preserve while the sun was still shining around it. It was gorgeous, and reminded me why this area was made a preserve in the first place.

I hope you enjoy the photos!
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Alta TrailPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 07 2014
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Hiking4.00 Miles 1,333 AEG
Hiking4.00 Miles   2 Hrs   8 Mns   1.88 mph
1,333 ft AEG
 
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I've hiked this trail a few times and always enjoyed it, but don't do it much since it's hard to get to this trailhead. Typically, I used the San Juan Road access when it is open the first weekend of each month, but that's not been the case since the flooding in early September 2014 badly eroded the roads in South Mountain Park...both the Summit and San Juan Roads are closed until further notice for repairs.

For this hike up to the saddle just below Maricopa Peak, I parked at the Curtis Saddle trailhead. Where's that, you ask? Well it's not very easy to find, but it is an actual permitted entry point to South Mountain Park. The easiest way is to take 51st Avenue to Estrella Drive, which is about 3 miles south of Baseline Road. Turn east, keep going at the jog in the road (and end of pavement) at 43rd Avenue, and park just about where the gravel ends and you have to drive across a small wash. There are PRIVATE PROPERTY signs here and barbed wire preventing access, but not so about 100 feet further along the road. This is the best place to park, however. Look south from Estrella Drive as you walk along it for the brown City of Phoenix Preserve sign and just head for that.

The trail up to the first low saddle is badly eroded, but doable. Once at the saddle, a full view toward the San Juan Lookout and up the Alta Trail becomes visible. It's just under a half mile from the Curtis Saddle trailhead to the San Juan Lookout, where the Alta Trail actually starts.

From there, just go up! The trail is quite good, though now eroded in a few spots but not hard to get around them. The trail is quite an even steady gradient interspersed with some steeper rocky sections.

We turned around at the saddle where you can see over into downtown and the rest of Metro Phoenix. Made for a very nice four mile hike. We passed only one other person early in the hike.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Ocotillo-Sidewinder-Ridgeback Loop, AZ 
Ocotillo-Sidewinder-Ridgeback Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 28 2014
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Hiking8.30 Miles 1,284 AEG
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I didn't want to be with any of the Black Friday shoppers so I thought a nice long loop hike would be nice. It was a bit longer than I planned because originally I was going to take a still-visible shortcut on an old road about halfway through the loop I did, that connects Ocotillo and the Sidewinder Trail. I didn't because it was a nice day, I was making good time and I had water. Anyway, except for the popularity this trail has with bikes (where they are supposed to yield but yeah right, that happens), it was a very nice day out. Most cyclists did say thank you, but an actual attempt to slow down instead of flying by me would be nice. And some did. But some definitely did not :)
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Romero Canyon PoolsTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 15 2014
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Hiking5.74 Miles 1,442 AEG
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1,442 ft AEG
 
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FINALLY got to try this out...it's not that hard to get to from Phoenix, especially if you're used to driving up to Prescott, Sedona, or the Payson area to hike.

We got there just past 11am after about a 1.5+ hour drive out the 60 to Florence Junction, to AZ 79 to AZ 77. I'm glad we did not leave earlier as there was some children's nature event and cub/boy scouts swarming back to the trailhead from the trails, and the parking lot was packed. It was quite OK heading up at 11:30.

It took us 1 hour 30 mins to the pools. OK. I should point out I had a much-less-frequent hiker with me who also takes MANY photos, and there is NO way it would have taken me that long otherwise, and I found it very frustrating as I rarely stop when I hike alone. He's my partner though, so what can you do. Anyway, we got there, there were about 20 people spread out amongst all the pools, and there was flowing water at the pools and evident at a waterfalls in both Montrose and Romero Canyon...they could be seen and heard from the trail.

Return trip was a bit faster although I did finally just break off and wait at the Montrose pools. I was about 10 minutes ahead at that point :) It was a gorgeous day for this hike.

Oh on the way back from the pools, two guys in their 20's walked by with a dog on a leash. Apparently they couldn't read the 5 signs saying NO DOGS due to the bighorn sheep management area.
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Courthouse Butte Loop TrailSedona, AZ
Sedona, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 09 2014
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Hiking4.29 Miles 545 AEG
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Went up to Flagstaff for the night to enjoy a nice dinner at a favorite restaurant, and stayed over. Came home via 89A/Oak Creek Canyon and decided to do this loop hike that I've always somehow bypassed. I guess I always thought it was too "touristy", but most of it is not.

We started later in the day (2pm) from the southern (Bell Rock) trailhead and headed right at the first fork over to the Courthouse Butte loop. We lost most everyone else immediately after taking this fork. After about a half mile, we hit the actual Courthouse Butte loop trail and headed east (counterclockwise).

This trail, particularly the next 1.5 miles, was a surprisingly scenic ramble. I know Sedona/Oak Creek is scenic everywhere really, but we saw very few others. We hiked through more dense foliage (read: shade) and drainages than I imagined. I'd love to come back on this trail during a winter rain, there would be so many visible pour-offs and channels along the hike. The trail was really well marked (by the signature Sedona cairns) and the gradient was very easy. Bonus: part of the trail was in the Wilderness area, and bikes are prohibited. So no getting run over in that section anyway...read on.

The views to the north (Sedona, Cathedral Rock) opened up around the north side, as we started to walk into the sun. When we got to Bell Rock, we found where everyone else had been headed. We headed around Bell Rock and back to where we started for a nice leisurely 2-hour detour! I was almost taken out at the end of the hike by a mountain biker flying downhill to the trailhead past a sign warning bikes to yield and slow down. He got more than a few choice words out of me. But it was a nice hike.
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Palm Canyon - KOFASouthwest, AZ
Southwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 07 2014
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Hiking1.37 Miles 419 AEG
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Well thought it was about time I did this one. I took advantage of a conference I was attending in Yuma to divert my drive back to Phoenix up 95 and into Kofa. A coworker, also a hiker, came with me, and we were the only two there late afternoon on a Friday.

The hike really is straightforward unless you want to hike UP to the palms, which we did (just about). We started the hike late, and got up quite high, but the rock was very loose and we thought, well we saw the palms from below and they're just palms LOL. I do recommend a hiking pole. We tried the route to the right (thanks @chumley) and it was walkable with a few hand holds needed.

With that, we turned around and finished. Great weather!. If we had been an hour earlier the light would have been perfect to see the palms in the sun. See my pics.
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Telegraph Pass - YumaSouthwest, AZ
Southwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 05 2014
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Hiking4.80 Miles 1,329 AEG
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To start with, I used HAZ Tracks to track my hike and it calculated the 4.8 miles round-trip and 1329 AEG (which were different from the "default" figures for this triplog). Just sayin...

Anyway, wow this is a cool hike! I had started it yesterday, then realized it was longer than I had thought and wouldn't make it to the top before sunset. I was guessing this was all about the views to the east, particularly the mountain ranges lit in the late afternoon sun, so I didn't see the point in finishing yesterday. I came back today a bit earlier.

The first 1.25 miles are pretty easy. I took the trail from the north end of the parking area that you access off of the dirt road, near the utility poles. It goes through a nice mini canyon, then climbs out on to a bench from which you have really nice views to the mountains on the south side of I-8 and the rest of the trail ahead of you. After you hit the concrete access road for the cell towers, WOW! That's some steep climbing! I swear there were quite a few sections at 45 degrees, no exaggeration. I have hiked the steep ones in Phoenix many times...Piestewa, Camelback, Siphon Draw...but they get into steps/stairways and climbing. This is just a really even, steep path and that's difficult. I reckon this was good training for McDowell Peak in Scottsdale, because I haven't done that and those descriptions all talk about how steep the road is there. Anyway, I digress.

The views WERE stunning from the utility towers! No one was up there so I just wandered a bit. One other hiker showed up and showed me the trail log, suggesting I sign in since it was my first time. I did, and added ""HikeArizona.COM"" after my signature :)

Then came the hike down. A hiking pole would have been nice...I think. I think my knees will be sore, it's really difficult to maintain that steep of a downhill for a full mile.

Regardless...it was worth it and a great hike. See my pics!

PS Joe B...I tried to type H A Z dot com above, because that's what I signed in the trail register, but you did something whereby that automatically changes to "HikeArizona.COM" when it saves a triplog here. I didn't write the full words in the trail register.
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See Canyon Trail #184Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 01 2014
cdeperro
Hiking4.28 Miles 788 AEG
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I decided to head back out to See Canyon (after hiking the branch trail to See Spring last week) to see how it compared to the See Spring area for foliage and color. I knew it might be a bit past peak, and it was, but only just barely.

I didn't hike up to the rim road, just to the third crossing of Christopher Creek (4 crossings altogether, but the 2nd crossing is actually See Creek, if that's what it's called...it's the outflow from See Spring). Anyway, there was a lot of nice color just past the burn area beyond the See Creek crossing, but nothing quite as good as at See Spring. I realized that much of the water in Christopher Creek comes from See Spring, and upstream of that there is currently little flow, and no flow at the last crossing. The maples and oaks which change color like more water :) In addition, where there was color, the trees were not nearly as large as those around See Spring, except in one place down in the creekbed where the trail was easily 50' above (with no easy way down). That's an area where if you backtracked and bushwhacked up the creek, you could get to a nice area.

The hike was not disappointing for color, as you can see from my pics, but I do like the See Spring area better.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Extreme
Just past peak. I'd say go a week or two earlier (last two weeks in October).
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See Spring Trail #185Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 25 2014
cdeperro
Hiking1.27 Miles 368 AEG
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I'm reluctant to post about this hike because it's my "go to" fall hike and I almost want to keep it to myself! Which is of course why I took 25 people up there. I took my hiking group here again this year....and we saw maybe 6 other people. And it's a stunning fall hike! I've attached pictures, which show that the hike was just as colorful as last year.

I would say the foliage is turning just a bit later this year, perhaps because of the rain. Next week would still probably be very nice. There were a few more fallen trees...including a large one blocking the See Canyon trail right where See Spring Trail branches off from it. It's easy to walk around, but it was noticeably new to me this year.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
Should still be nice for the upcoming week. Last year (2013) I would have said the last two weekends in October were good; this year I say the last in October and first in November.
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