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Tortuga Trail - Spur Cross - 34 members in 145 triplogs have rated this an average 2.7 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Apr 26 2025
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 Mesa, AZ
Rondo Spring TrailPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking15.56 Miles 2,150 AEG
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I planned this as an out and back to hike all of Rondo Spring Trail. The upper portion of this hike is rough with all the loose rocks on the trail (and even not so loose rocks). It's not all that steep or all much elevation gain, just slow going on the rocks. After the last junction to Elephant Mountain is where it gets really bad. I knew this going in and almost changed my mind to do the hike. I pushed through, taking my time. I when from 23 minutes miles to 40 minute miles on this 2 miles stretch at the top, which even includes the downhill parts. Much of this upper area looks to have had some recent trimming of palo verde trees to keep it clear. However, they left the dead branches on the trail, which kind of defeats the purpose and it increased the trip hazards.

After Rondo Spring I headed down Rondo Spring Trail. It remains steep and rocky for the first half mile or so. Once it hits the wash it's immediately more level and smooth and much easier to hike. soon after that there's a single trail that meets up with a jeep road. The last 2+ miles were pretty much jeep roads. There's no signage of any sort, so I'm assuming the track I used is accurate. There are several intersecting cattle trails along the way also.

Once I got to the end, I did not feel like going through the slog of the upper portion of these trails and descending on the upper portion of the Tortuga and beyond. I noticed that I was less than a mile from the Maricopa Trail that heads back on the south side of Elephant Mountain. I began to follow the jeep roads I found and they led in that direction.

In order to prevent a backtrack on the trail and save mileage, I took a cattle trail that headed directly due east from the dirt road I was on to the MT. Once I got there, I discovered I was on the wrong side of a barbed wire fence. With a half a railroad tie left nearby, I used to hop up over at a corner part of 2 perpendicular parts of the barbed wire and used the wire tied to the big railroad tie that was the corner anchor of the fence as a ladder. Almost 2 miles later, I discover that the MT crosses this fence at a cattle guard bike ramp, so I didn't need to go thru all that. I could have just followed the cattle trail that parallels the MT there the entire time.

Made my way back to the lot in 90 minutes less time than on the way out, and saved maybe a half mile of distance, if that. Saw 2 bikers once I was back in the park, then a few more hikers after that, but not many. No wildlife spotted.

Temperature was cool to start, warmed up after the sun hit, but it never got hot. 25 mph wind gusts were predicted, but did not grace me with an appearance.
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Feb 22 2025
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 Phoenix, AZ
Sugarloaf Mountain - Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
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A few years back, some friends accidently ended up on top of Sugarloaf Mountain after making the mistake of putting the wrong person in charge of navigation. Someone proposed intentionally climbing the mountain, and as I had missed the previous adventure, I decided to join.

Intentionally climbing the mountain means you can make a more informed decision as to which approach to take, and we chose the southwest ridge. This worked out pretty well most of the way up, although the last 200 feet or so was quite steep and involved some hanging onto things. Once on the top, it was a straightforward trek over to the east end of the mountain, where the best view can be found.

On the way down, I thought it would be nice to go around that steep section, so I started down a crease just to the east. The path of least resistance took me to the top of a long scree field, which looked a little sketchy, but turned out to be very stable. This is probably the best route in retrospect.

Once down to Trail 252, we proceeded east to make a loop. There was still water in Limestone Spring.

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Jan 12 2025
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 Phoenix, AZ
Limestone Spring loop, AZ 
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Run/Jog7.48 Miles 1,683 AEG
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No plan sort of day, headed out to Spur Cross to check out Trail 252 after a 6+ year absence. Uneventful to the junction. Once on Limestone Trail I noticed it's in much better shape than I remembered. This used to be a pretty rough trail. I actually saw some hikers at Limestone Spring, in the old days I would've never seen anybody back there.

Surprisingly Limestone Spring had decent flow, enough to muddy up the trail. Page spring was dry as a bone.

At the turn towards Tortuga Tr, I decided to head up the Peterson Spring spur to check it out. A decade ago I went up there, but couldn't recall what it was like. I may not have made it all the way, because the spring area was nicer than I remembered. The spring box at the bottom of the drainage was dry, but the catchment up above on the west bench had water.

From there, took a beeline back to Spur Cross.

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Dec 21 2024
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 Tempe, AZ
Spur Cross December Oven Hell Death Loop, AZ 
Spur Cross December Oven Hell Death Loop, AZ
 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking7.46 Miles 1,359 AEG
Hiking7.46 Miles   2 Hrs   43 Mns   2.80 mph
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Apparently the Boca Grande trail is not on HAZ? I'll have to add it. My uniques are falling way below el aguila, and that's wholly unacceptable.

This was an absolutely miserable loop. The only saving grace was that apparently people like Christmas and do things to prepare for it so they were too busy to go hiking today. The lack of people were an unexpected delight.

Last time I was here it was almost exactly 10 years ago. It was snowing [ photo ] . Today it was 147 degrees. In December. There was sweat. We searched for shade. At 10am. In December. WTLF is going on here? It's awful. This should be wonderful now. It is not.

The Jewel of the Death was dry. Crispy and dead. Bonus- the bridge hasn't been washed away in the past 17 years. Because there hasn't been surface water here since Carter was president.

The parking lot hooked up with some desert rabbits because there are about 400 more spots than the last time I was here. Apparently people have no idea what was once attractive about the place and still want to come here. It's a mystery to me.

In the end, I survived. Not quite sure how.

*bitterness is fabricated. Day was enjoyable mostly due to company. But record heat and drought is definitely taking its toll.
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Nov 07 2024
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Coffee no Sugar, AZ 
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I had a noon turnaround time and a minute later I headed back to my vehicle. Lessons learned, I'll need more than 3 hrs.,long pants, and one hiking pole. Sugarloaf attempt was fun. The ridgeline you aren't on always looks better until you are on it. I forgot how much I liked this area. Luckily, I was able to find 2 dollar bills,2 quarters and 5 dimes. I didn't cry today, but I could have if I wanted to.
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Apr 14 2024
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 Gilbert, AZ
Elephant Mountain Trail - Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking7.55 Miles 1,596 AEG
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Beautiful day to be outside. Warm but not yet ridiculously hot. Lots and lots of wildflowers. Mainly brittlebush, but also some purple. Also lots of fuscia cactus blooms! So lovely! This loop also has many stately saguaros. 🌵💚

Not too many people on elephant mountain trail, 2 groups, 6 people total. Lots and lots of people on Spur Cross.

Plenty of parking available in the huge lot.
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 Tucson, AZ
Elephant Mountain Trail - Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
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Did the counterclockwise loop with Tortuga / Elephant Mountain / Spur Cross, and made it to the summit of Elephant Mountain as well. Interesting rock wall there, I’m assuming was leftovers from Native Americans?
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 Phoenix, AZ
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Jan 16 2024
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 Cave Creek, AZ
Spur Cross Loop, AZ 
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Nice close to home hike this afternoon just to do something after my dental appointment. Still some fall color at the Jewel Of The Creek Preserve to start off this CW loop. I normally don't hike here in the afternoons and the trails were very busy with both people and dogs. The normally full Dragonfly pond was bone dry which was sad to see. Lots of bird activity though.
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Jewel and Spur Cross, AZ 
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An afternoon hike around Jewel of the Creek and some of the Spur Cross trails with my oldest Rob, his wife Lindsy and Doug, their fur baby. The Cottonwoods were almost at their fall prime. Great weather with minimal others out after we cleared Jewel of the Creek.
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 Cave Creek, AZ
Spur Cross Mud Bog, AZ 
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My plan for today was a trek up to the 6L Ranch. The weather was perfect but the trail conditions were not. The recent rain and snow has Cave Creek running strongly. The farther north you go the more water there is. There are about 8 crossings in each direction for the 6L trip. I don't mind rock hopping but shoe and sock removal that many times didn't sound enticing.

Plan B was a short loop in Spur Cross with Cathy. They had the wood bridges in place for all two of our crossings. Things were OK till we got on top of the plateau above Black Mesa Creek. The trail turned to mud and stayed that way for the remainder of the loop. Quite a bit of snow still in the shady areas of the trail. The slog through soft mud was less than fun but the day was gorgeous and my company was superb.
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Over a foot in depth in many places even this far south.
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Dec 14 2022
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Elephant Mountain Summit - Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
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I had not been hiking in Spur Cross yet this year, so we decided to go out and hike up to Elephant Mountain. To mix it up a bit, we started and ended the hike at the Jewel of the Creek Preserve.

We started by doing a semi-loop in Jewel of the Creek before heading to the Spur Cross Conservation area. We did a CW loop and stopped at the saddle below Elephant Mountain. We then scrambled our way to the Elephant Mountain summit. There was some steep and slippery scree to deal with, along with a short section of class 2+ climbing. There are great views at the summit, so at least there is a good payoff for the effort to get there.

There was a good bit of mud on the trail in the morning, and for a while I felt like I was hiking with ankle weights on. Fortunately, the mud was all gone on the way back. I guess that there was a decent amount of rain there last night, and I would not have gone out there this morning had I known that it was so muddy; but the mud sure dried up fast once the sun was out for a bit.
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 Chandler, AZ
Chalk Canyon Ruins and Elephant Mountain, AZ 
Chalk Canyon Ruins and Elephant Mountain, AZ
 
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Hiking14.56 Miles 2,393 AEG
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We'd had Chalk Canyon on our list for quite a while and decided to make that our main destination today. We started at Spur Cross Ranch Trailhead, and there was a lot more water in Cave Creek than expected...water levels were a lot lower in late December when we hiked to the Skull Mesa ruins, and I don't remember any significant rainfall since then. Regardless, it was nice to see.

It was mostly fast, pleasant miles on the hike to the ruins, with comfortable temperatures and a lot of wildflowers and birds. After we left Cave Creek Trail and approached the ruins site, we started to see increasing concentrations of pottery sherds and petroglyphs. One of the first petroglyphs we saw east of the ruins was a human figure with a zigzag pattern leading toward a spiral/circle of life engraved in the rock. Always fun to guess the meaning behind the drawings...

We spent some time exploring the ruins on the west edge of the mesa. We had the site to ourselves, and it offered a different perspective looking up at the ridge with the Skull Mesa ruins to the north. A lot of the walls were deteriorated at this site, but it was a large complex, and a few rooms had taller, more intact walls with some mortar still visible. One long, narrow room had a doorway made of white rocks that stood out from the darker ones that made up the other walls and virtually all the other structures, and it looked like rocks had been stacked loosely in modern times to block off the doorway for some reason.

After exploring the ruins, we dropped down off the west edge of the mesa toward the trail and Cave Creek below. It was a steep, loose descent in places, especially near the top, but we were able to avoid the brush almost entirely and saw more pottery and a few petroglyphs on the way down the slope. The area at the bottom was the highlight of the site, with an impressive concentration of petroglyphs and metates/rock slicks.

A set of three large boulders were covered in various petroglyphs on the tops and sides, and one vertical panel had one of the largest human figures I've seen, at 2+ feet tall. Others nearby had spirals and various symbols carved all over the flat tops. As we explored the area, we counted ~10 metates, several with grinding stones, and many more petroglyphs and pot sherds...a really nice area.

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As we hiked back toward the trailhead, we took Metate Trail and checked out the namesake metates and the pool while dodging the crowds. Other than coming down the steep side of the mesa, it was quick, easy miles, and with a lot of afternoon remaining, we headed toward Elephant Mountain to see how far we could get with our remaining time. @TboneKathy waited below the saddle while I headed for the peak. I came up a little short, about a quarter mile from the summit, before I ran out of time and decided to turn around, but getting up as far as I did provided a nice vantage point to see the Elephant Mountain ruins on the ridge below, so it was a worthwhile effort even if I'll have to come back again to reach the peak.

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On the hike out, @TboneKathy nearly stepped on a Gila monster before seeing it at her feet...I don't usually think of those as blending in very well with their orange stripes, but she somehow missed it :). About a mile from the trailhead a helicopter was circling overhead, and we could see emergency vehicles with lights flashing in the parking lot. The helicopter landed over there and took off again and circled a few more times, and it continued repeating that cycle once we back and packing up at our vehicle. There were three fire trucks (one that said "Heavy Rescue" on the side) and two ambulances, and we weren't sure if it was an active rescue or a training exercise with the way the helicopter kept coming and going.

It was a fun hike, and the area below the ruins, especially, exceeded expectations. We had comfortable weather, great scenery, and the hike up to Elephant Mountain was a nice bonus that wasn't part of the original plan...and, fortunately, no Gila monsters were injured during the hike :).
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Jan 29 2022
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 Joined Dec 07 2010
 Phoenix, AZ
Spur Cross LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking6.30 Miles 1,018 AEG
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A beautiful spring day hike with my Grandson. Lots of folks hiking and riding horses on this Saturday but we soon left the hordes behind after passing the intersection of the Tortuga and Elephant Mountain trails as we progressed around the loop in a clockwise direction. There have been times in the past when the Limestone Trail was difficult to follow being partially overgrown and with confusing side trails. But today the trail was easy to follow and most of the side trails had a row of rocks placed across them at the intersections making it clear which one was the correct trail to follow. There are some steep rocky sections of the Limestone Trail which required a great amount of caution and the welcome use of my trekking poles to safely cross them. However my nimble footed Grandson was not deterred and scampered through these sections with ease. As usual we were on the lookout for birds but saw few that hung around long enough for photos. Unfortunately there was a complete absence of wild flowers which I had expected to start showing by now. Once reaching the Spur Cross Trail along Cave Creek we again encountered the hordes including at least 3 long strings of horseback riders, none of which looked accustomed to this mode of transportation.
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Jan 11 2022
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 Cave Creek, AZ
Limestone Trail Loop, AZ 
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Hiking6.65 Miles 1,230 AEG
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I had a nice little hike planned with a gentleman this morning but he called in sick. :( I still needed to hike but had no desire to get out of bed. So I mustered up a little motivation, [ youtube video ] and headed on out. I went up Cave Creek and did a CCW loop using Limestone Trail #252. Every time I hike on this trail I say "never again" because the tread is so bad. The beautiful views and solitude always bring me back though.

I stopped at Limestone Spring to catch my breath and then slogged over the saddle and down towards Page Spring. Just after the spring I picked up a cholla grenade on my instep which required un-booting and de-stickering my foot. I would have been screwed without my tweezers.

I got off trail for a bit after that but soon found my way again thanks to Route Scout and the footprints of @Nightstalker 's posse and harem which came through here a couple of weeks ago.

I saw that the desert was starting to leaf out and things should really start looking good in about another month. The parking lot enlargement and upgrades with new curbs looks complete and they have also built a new signed trail from the upper parking lot to the lower lot and TH at the "Jewel Of The Creek" so folks don't have to walk on the road.

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Still decent flow from all the rain two weeks ago.
Crossing is easy if you find the right rocks.


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Dry spring box but likely due to a pipe issue. Ground saturated just to the north at the true source in the trees.

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Full spring box with slight over-flow going downstream.
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Jan 09 2022
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 Phoenix, AZ
Elephant Mountain Trail - Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking7.12 Miles 1,477 AEG
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Jan 05 2022
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 Cave Creek, AZ
Black Mesa Creek Spur Cross, AZ 
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Doctor day for Cathy so I went back to the ridge above Black Mesa Creek to hopefully find some new (to me) petroglyphs. I saw the ones I found earlier this year but nothing new. I also went farther north this time and visited some collapsed Hohokam ruins. The recent rains have uncovered lots of pottery shards at this location... so much that I had to watch my step so as not to break anything.

I took a detour on my way back to the parking lot to find the park's game camera @Sun_Ray was looking for yesterday. It's gone again. I could see the marks in the tree bark were it was mounted however. I sure hope no one stole it.

The weather was perfect for the hike and didn't see anyone until the very end as I was coming down Tortuga. There were two groups of octagenarians, about 14 in total creeping up that steep grade. Good on them. :app: I hope I'm still able to do that in fifteen years.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Black Mesa Creek - SPRCA Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Creekbed was completely soaked with some standing pools. No visible flow on the surface but likely moving underground.

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Audible from 100 yards away. Still flowing well from last weeks rainfall.
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Nov 29 2021
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 Cave Creek, AZ
Elephant Mountain Loop Spur Cross, AZ 
Elephant Mountain Loop Spur Cross, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 29 2021
LosDosSloFolksTriplogs 601
Hiking7.44 Miles 1,376 AEG
Hiking7.44 Miles   4 Hrs   28 Mns   2.02 mph
1,376 ft AEG      47 Mns Break6 LBS Pack
 
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Obligations at home have precluded me from doing much hiking this year so when I learned I'd have today to do something I made it happen. Elephant Mountain is close to home and would give me a much needed workout. @Walkingbambam expressed an interest in doing this hike earlier in the year so I PM'd him last week but he never opened it up. I hope I haven't been put on the "ignore" list by yet another HAZ'r. 8-[

The tread is as awful as ever and they've even added more ankle rollers to the trail to patch up last years erosion. For being a "non-maintained" trail a lot of work has been done to it since I last hiked it. Most noteworthy is the fact that the "Boy Scout" stairs on the east side of the loop have finally been fixed with new rebar and wood where needed. I thought my quads were in good shape from doing squats at home...they're not. :( Those stairs ate my lunch.

I went CW for a change of pace but it was a mistake. Going CCW is a bit steeper but it's better to go up the bad sections of trail than down in my opinion. Lot's of slipping and sliding today! I saw no one on the climb up to the saddle but someone was flying a drone over the "fortress" and the summit of Elephant. What a godawful noise. I stopped for lunch at Ringneck Spring on the north side of the loop. The ground was wet but the area where the hand pump and pipe reside was too overgrown with catclaw to check out. Clippers will be needed.

I find it humorous that they rate this trail as "Double Black Diamond, Extremely Difficult" (sounds like a ski run). :) If a 10 pound overweight 66 year old with COPD can creep around it at 2mph it can't be that tough. HAZ has it at 2.5. I'd rate it a bit harder just due to the tread conditions.

It was nice to get out but it did get very warm quickly. Come on fall!
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The Cottonwoods and Sycamores at the "Jewel of the Creek" are just starting to turn. Two to three weeks till prime.



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Pipe was dripping very slowly. Lots of damp ground.
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Nov 28 2021
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 Joined Jan 20 2009
 Far NE Phoenix,
Black and New River Mesas, AZ 
Black and New River Mesas, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 28 2021
The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking12.06 Miles 3,449 AEG
Hiking12.06 Miles   8 Hrs   8 Mns   1.76 mph
3,449 ft AEG   1 Hour   16 Mns Break14 LBS Pack
 
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It's been awhile, so off to Spur Cross. It'd been almost 10 years to the day that I last hiked this with @Tortoise_Hiker.
Remembering the rocky conditions, I pondered my choices for footwear. The worn out Salomon's, the new but lighter Asics, or new, heavier, but more sturdy Adidas. The Adidas were the correct choice.

47 degrees o start with a calm wind. I was shocked to be only the 4th car in the lot at 7:30ish. Spur Cross -> Tortuga -> Elephant Mountain Trail. Not much has changed here. Easy to follow and hike roads turning to trails.

Once off of Elephant Mountain Trail the trail gets thinner and thinner to the Black Mesa summit. There are cairns most of the way, but the tall grass covers up both the Rock Cairns and the plain ole' hidden rocks. I call them volcanic grapefruit. Those are the ones that play havoc on your ankles.

Up top on Black Mesa, I made my way over to New River Mesa to check it out. On the east rim I found the set of glymphs with various ancient vandalism carved into them, as well as a grinding slick.

I made my way south across Black Mesa, kicking up a white tail. The plan was to exit down south ridgeline towards Sugarloaf Mountain. Part way down I got cliffed out and pondered my choices. Going farther to the west looks like it MIGHT have worked out, but being solo (and an old fart) I opted for the downclimb farther to the East. It was still a steep, slippery and slow off trail down climb.

I ultimately hopped into a canyon/wash that ran into the Elephant Mountain Trail.

I was a little warm at the end of the day with full sun and no breeze. I think I'm done with Black Mesa for another 10 years.
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Oct 16 2021
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 Joined Jul 05 2006
 Mesa, AZ
Elephant Mountain Trail - Spur CrossPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 16 2021
DarthStillerTriplogs 856
Hiking8.43 Miles 2,167 AEG
Hiking8.43 Miles   5 Hrs   6 Mns   1.66 mph
2,167 ft AEG      1 Min Break
 
The last time I hiked out to Rondo Spring was a good 16 years ago, so it seemed like a good time to try again. From the Spur Cross TH I took the Spur Cross and Tortuga Trails, and then took the Trail 252 bypass and then took the Elephant Mountain Trail westbound. Along 252, I tried to take the spur trail up to Peterson Spring, which I had also done 16 years ago. This time, however, I only got a few hundred feet before the trail faded away. I was moving pretty slowly anyway with the rockiness of the trails at the higher elevations here, so I decided to move on.

Before I got to the Elephant Mountain Trail junction, I saw another hiker coming the other way who seemed a little disoriented. he thought a trail junction was just ahead, when in fact it was a good half mile away. I directed him to follow the faint trail and watched to see he was on the right track.

Hiking up to the junction where you can go to Rondo Spring or Black Mesa was hard to follow, harder than when I hiked this trail just last April. The monsoon rains seem to have promoted a lot of grass growth, which made the trail hard to follow and the cairns hard to find.

Once i got to Rondo Spring, I found the Rondo Spring Trail, which heads westbound to New River. I only hiked a small bit of before I headed back. It's a 4 mile hike to the spring from New River, but according to the guide, about half of that is dirt roads. Next time I'll have to try to plan for the longer hike to the end of the single track on this trail.

Took the short way back and called it a day. Slow going along the rocky sections, but a decent hike. Saw a lot more hikers once i was back in the county park area.
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