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Kentuck Trail #217 - Prescott NF - 6 members in 10 triplogs have rated this an average 3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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May 07 2022
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Horsethief loop, AZ 
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Was looking for something slightly cool with the 100 degree forecast in town, so Horsethief area seemed to fit the bill. There were a couple of trails I wanted to check out. Started at the SW end of Algonquin and took that down into Horsethief Canyon. Wasn't too hard to follow, just missed one switchback, and catclaw wasn't really an issue until the last quarter mile.

Then a brief flat-ish stretch in the canyon, and the steep climb up. Once at the Recreation Trail junctions, I headed east towards Twin Peaks. The first part was nice, but the climb up through the manzanita was kinda meh. Once into the forest it was was more pleasant.

Once back to the roads, I headed over to Kentuck Spring, and up to Horsethief Lookout. This trail was in decent condition. Chilled at the top a couple minutes. I had considered checking out East Fort, but it looked like it was burned to a crisp so I ditched that idea. Headed down Coal Camp Spring "trail", the first couple hundred feet of which offered false promises. It looks like someone started mowing a path through the manzanita, but gave up. The part on the ridge wasn't terrible, but a couple hundred feet of the drop down towards the saddle was straight up bushwhacking through manzanita and other scratchy things. But it eventually started opening up and the last part wasn't too bad, I even managed to find a cairn at one point.

The rest was just on road, headed down to Horsethief Lake, then back up to Algonquin TH. Traffic on the road wasn't too bad until the last mile or so, think I hit the post-lunch rush from CK.

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Lots of pools above the Algonquin junction, only found one stretch with a very slight trickle. Also a pool and a trickle where the Horsethief trail crosses a side drainage a half mile or so from the Recreation trail.
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Today I decided to head up to Crown King and check out a couple of more fire lookouts: Towers Mountain and the Horsethief Lookout

Towers Mountain
This one is about 5 miles from the Crown King General Store. I drove up the Towers Mountain Road for about 3 miles, parked, and then hiked up to the Lookout: I could have driven all the way to the tower, but I wanted to stretch my legs a bit and make a somewhat legitimate hike out of it. I think that you'd want a high clearance 4WD vehicle to go up past the General Store.

Nobody was home at the lookout, and there was no trap door in place, so I was able to climb up in the cab -- nice views!

Horsethief Lookout
This one is only 10 miles from Crown King, but it took about an hour to get there on the crappy road. I drove around to the service road for the tower, and made the short hike up to the tower. Someone was manning the tower today, and there were signs asking people not to climb up into the tower. Therefore, I only climbed up 3 of the 4 flights of stairs, and stopped at the landing for the last flight of stairs to check out the views and take some pics.

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I enjoyed both lookouts, but it is a loooong drive to get to the Horsethief LO.

Mileage and elevation gain for the 2 hikes are below. Stats above are the sum of the two.

Towers Mountain: 4.2 miles with an AEG of 833 feet
Horsethief: 1.2 miles with an AEG of 394 feet
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There were a few wildflowers along the road up to Towers Mountain; however, I didn't see many flowers going up to the Horsethief LO.
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Mar 25 2021
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Big Dipper - Horsethief Loop, AZ 
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Hiking22.48 Miles 5,046 AEG
Hiking22.48 Miles   8 Hrs   19 Mns   2.97 mph
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I heard there was some trail work done around Horsethief Basin and in the Castle Creek Wilderness, so I was curious to check out the conditions of the trails as well as see how the water was flowing in Horsethief and Poland Creeks. Started at the northern Algonquin TH around 7:30 and went clockwise starting with The Big Dipper.

Algonquin down to the Horsethief Trail junction is wide and clear. Left the trail where it crosses Poland Creek and hopped my way down. One tricky section where the water pools between slippery rock walls. Didn’t want to get wet, so I slid my way across on the south side of the creek. Big Dipper was running pretty good, lots of water in Poland Creek. First time seeing it running, pretty neat. Figure most are waiting a week for the temps to climb to get some swimming in.

Back on Algonquin to Horsethief Trail, which received recent maintenance. Trail is in brilliant shape. Tread is clean and the path is clear. Probably my favorite trail on the day. Steep climb up to big views.

Next was Twin Peaks Trail. Again, recently maintained and in good shape as far as I went. Looped around using Twin Peaks between Horsethief and the 240 TH. Gate is locked to get to the TH, though there’s parking on Senator not too, too far away.

Walked Senator Highway to Kentuck CG, which is no longer a true CG and is day use only. Kentuck trail is in good shape until higher up where it gets a little brushy but never too bad. Stopped at Horsethief Lookout. It’s closed for the pandemic but still offered good views of Lake Pleasant and the surrounding Bradshaws from the windy steps.

Worst part of the day was Coal Camp Spring Trail. One mile of trail from the LO to the road is lost to the forest. Needs to be regraded higher up and cleared the whole way through. Pretty good bushwack for about a mile from the LO to where it reaches the road that goes from Senator/Horsethief Lake to Coal Camp Spring/South Fort.

Road walk to Senator and then down to Horsethief Lake. Bad timing and I got there just as a few other folks pulled up. Had a walk around. Fun, short trail especially where it crosses along the dam. Then again, I’m a sucker for the small mountain lakes.

Three more miles of road walking to the southern Algonquin TH. Algonquin has been recently cleared the whole way and is a dream to follow. Big views as the trail descends. Good tread, no bushwacking. Was worried the whole hike about its condition, but it’s pretty much a highway the entire way now.

Got back down to the creeks and then back up. That final climb is never as bad as it seems. Mostly cloudy day, high 30s to low 50s. Didn’t see anyone besides a few trucks driving on Senator.
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Bradshaws Fort Loop, AZ 
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Hiking8.54 Miles 1,982 AEG
Hiking8.54 Miles   4 Hrs   36 Mns   2.06 mph
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A while ago Bruce the Eagle gifted me with a custom made GPS loop he thought I'd like - thought I should give it a whirl.

The road to the trail head is pretty rough, definitely high clearance required. The Kentuck trail up to Horsethief Overlook was nice. Looked to me like the attendant was away...maybe a Saturday in town.

After the overlook I needed some IT help. (Invisible Trail) But not too dense and easy enough to keep heading the right way. This whole area has burned and though it's much more green than black these days I think the net effect is that some old roads have disappeared. Eventually I hit a Jeep Rd / ATV track and took that to South Fort. The rocky outcrop has a commanding view and is a natural defensive site but just a single stacked wall.

From there I followed another track to East Fort. This one is much more impressive with some extensive high walls - better than I expected. This fort overlooks Perry Mesa - maybe it's considered part of the line-of-site communication network thought to be operative 700 yrs ago. I saw just a couple small pottery pieces there.

Continuing on from East Fort there were more IT problems and a lot of deadfall in the places the old road could be seen. But again I soon hit another Jeep Rd and looped back to the start.

This hike was quite a change of pace for me. The granite strewn country is nice (though being more ATV than hiking trail-dominated detracts) and the whole walk occurs, more or less, on top of the mountain. I'd sort of been planning a beer and burger in Crown King on the way out, but the timing was wrong and the center looked crowded (this is a relative term), so I just headed back.
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Kentuck Trail #217 - Prescott NFPrescott, AZ
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Came up the night before and camped at Hazlett Hollow just up the road. After a hearty breakfast we headed over to do this trail as the first of several for the day. Weather was cool and just a bit overcast, prefect for a good hike.

Found the trailhead easy enough. First part of the trail was pretty easy to follow, but got more interesting as we got higher up the ridge. A little backtracking here and there, but made the top of the hill pretty quick. As we walked out onto the tower access road, the tower observer drove up in his truck. "Thought I heard voices down here. Want to come up in the tower?" Apparently it is quiet out here or one of us is kinda loud when she hikes. Or maybe both.

Took Joe up on his invitation to climb the tower. Hazy, but still some pretty good views. Caught up on all the local Crown King gossip with Joe. He had several guitars in the tower cab to pass away the time. Plays in a band that starts off the entertainment at the saloon on Friday nights along with my old tower friend Tony. They quit early he explained cause they are a "geezer band". I think a Friday night at the Crown King Saloon is in my future.

Offered up our appreciation and headed back down the trail. One of us is far more into maintenance than the other, so there are now a few new cairns along the trail and old ones are a bit taller. One was on the Jeep just so I could find it when we got back to Kentuck. Guess I'll just leave the GPS home next time.
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Kentuck-217 Coal-203 Jim-235 Willow-236, AZ 
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Hiking16.20 Miles   9 Hrs   33 Mns   2.01 mph
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Fourth trip into the upper Bradshaw range. Algonquin / Horsethief / 201 Loop remains my favorite. Not interested in doing this one again yet it had some nice moments. Most notably the stellar views of Lake Pleasant on the Willow Springs Trail #236 and the Willow Spring area.

We lost the trail heading down Jim Creek #235 near the end. The bushwhacking slowed us down. Luckily it wasn't horrible catclaw, just undesirable dense whatnot. Found the trail at the bottom so it's probably much easier than we made it. Tore my shirt to smithereens.

Lost the trail briefly heading up Willow 236. Luckily that was short lived and the trail got consistently better heading up. catclaw is overgrown often on 236 yet no war wounds to heal.

Water: carried 4 quarts, only consumed 2... overcast all day and breezy cool enjoyable

Whistle Pitch: the difference in tones proved interesting. Opinions still differ yet I believe we can all agree we need more cow bell.

Partners: Bruce seems to enjoy hiking without sleep now. John just doesn't complain enough for 50 consecutive days of hiking.

Wildflowers: spotted Indian Paintbrush often and small verbena or such on occasion

Locals: shiny happy people holding hands
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Kentuck-217 Coal-203 Jim-235 Willow-236, AZ 
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Hiking16.80 Miles 4,205 AEG
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My Quest to see if any other trails still existed in the Horsehief Rec Area.

Based on Trail descriptions received from the Crown King General Store a few years back, I'd drawn up the supposed tracks using the HAZ-Route Manager for these and others up there. I first do a simple trace using the TOPO! Map and the track indicated on TOPO!. Then switch to the Satellite view to move/add to the track to where it is now-a-days. The problem with most of the tracks in the Bradshaw's, is that they have not seen much traffic since the fire back in 2008.

Our route was:
- Kentuck #217 to the Horsethief Lookout -
Nice little hike to the Lookout. Route is thin, GPS Track helpful
Views from the Lookout are top notch

- Coal Camp #203 to Jim Creek #235 - Nice little Connector to both Willow Springs and Jim Creek TH's from the Lookout. Route not bad, GPS Track helpful

- Jim Creek #235 to Milk Ranch ruins -
Hard to find the start of this trail. Track gets worse the farther South you go.
If you are lucky enough to be "On Trail", be careful not to trip on overgrown Cairns.
GPS Track "Extremely" helpful

- Willow Springs #236 to FR 696 (W/Side trip to South Fort Ruins)
From Milk Ranch a "Very Rough" 4 x 4 track until you get to Willow Spring. Willow Spring area is real Cool. The climb out of the Spring area gets thin in spots. (GPS Track very Helpful) Views of Lake Pleasant are sweet. The .5 mile RT side trip to the South Fort Ruins area are the highlight of this trail and hike for me. Not that the ruins are that spectacular, but the views are some of the best up there.

- FR696 to FR52 (Senator Highway)
Road walk back to the Start

As always, Dinner back at the Crown King Saloon / Brothel was "Interesting", but there is plenty of history hanging on the walls.

No wildlife seen on this hike, including Cows or Elephants, but that's not too unusual on hikes w/ Joe.

A big thanks to Joe for driving.

I'm glad John got to "Experience" Crown King". Thanks for joining us!
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There was a 4' round 24" deep clear cool pool of water. There were two concrete troughs in the area that were dry and no longer operational. Look for the spring 30' North of the old 25' hand formed Trough.
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Fortunately for all involved no elephants or cows were seen on this hike - only heard. This was my first trip up to the Crown King area. Pretty cool, worth a visit. I won't elaborate on the hike as Joe and Bruce did a nice job with that. Post hike activities at the bar were most interesting. Enjoyed a crown king ale with dinner. Fun hike, great company. Thanks for driving Joe, and thanks to Bruce for organizing the trek.
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Horsethief Lookout, AZ 
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This is triplog 2 of 3 from the Prescott Nation Forest including Horsethief Basin Rec Area and the Castle Creek Wilderness.

This hike included two marked trails:
#217, Kentuck Trail TH 34.1750 -112.2768
#31, East Fort Trail TH 34.1630 -112.2615

About 2 miles further up FR52 from Horsethief Lake is the Kentuck Campground and the TH for the Kentuck Trail.


The description I found says "The trailhead is located on the inner circle of Kentuck Springs Campground between camp spaces #14 and #15." I saw no indications that showed camping space numbers.


Through parts of this trail you see indications of the fires in 2008, but the area seems to be coming back. The trail itself is faint in spots but is cairned and taped for the most part. I'd recommend a GPS track to help you. I lost the trail for about 1/4 mi. once I got to the ridge that goes to the Tower, but you can see the tower at this point, and that is your first destination.

The views at 6702' from the Horsethief lookout are just incredible in all directions. The sign said they were open at the time I was there, but there was no answer and a lock on the hatch when I tried going up. You get a pretty good sense of the damage the fires out here caused.

Here's a somewhat shaky 360 from the Lookout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohzY8a1TA-Q

From here I hiked down the FR .8 mile to get to the TH for the East Fort Trail #31. This hike starts on an old 4x4 track which ultimately dead ends at the Castle Creek Wilderness gate and a nice trail getting to the top. It is a bit over a mile long to get up from the TH. I'd swear the area back in here is right our of an old cowboy movie. This is the place all the Bad Guys went to hide out. Once again the views at the top are great. At the top are the East Fort ruins. It's basically a series of rock walls that are up to 12' tall in sections and run about 40' long. I spent 20 minutes or so playing around and exploring at the top, taking pictures, turned off my camera, and then started down.

I took 2 steps off the top and came face to face (20' away) with my first Mountain Lion!!!!

I took me 2 or 3 seconds to take in how cool this was, and by the time I even thought about getting the camera out, he turned around and scampered back down the mountain. I was really bummed that I got no pictures, but happy I'd seen one, and that he went back down the mountain instead of coming closer!

The rest of this portion of the hike was uneventful on the loop back to the car.
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Had to do a quick trip up to check out things after the nearly 10,000 acre fire almost wiped out the town. It was pretty grim driving between Crown King and the Hazlett Hollow Campground. But thanks to the incredible efforts of the fire fighters, almost all of the buildings and recreation areas survived. On the way up, I stopped at the saloon at Cleator for a beer. The gal bartending asked if I was going up the mountain. I said yes, and she said, "Well, I have to go up and fill in at the bar up there, so guess I will sell you another beer in Crown King." And so it was, I got served by Judy, both at Cleator and Crown King. That was cool!!

This was the 10,000 acre Lane 2 Fire, which was started by a signal fire for lost hikers getting out of hand (sound familiar?). Of course this year (2012) the town was again threatened by the 16,000 acre Gladiator Fire (caused by a propane explosion at a nearby residence). I'd say the folks up there have been pretty well spooked in recent years. :scared:

I don't get up that way very often, but like the campground in Horsethief Basin. I must say it was really kind of creepy camping there, with nobody else around and the smell of fresh burn in the air. I slept in the back of my truck that night, and the sound of mice crawling around on the underside of the truck added to the spookiness! I took quite a few pictures of the old historic buildings along the way, because the fire was a reminder of quickly they could be gone.

I haven't been up there since, but might have to take a drive up soon to see how things look after the 2012 fire. (posted 9-22-2012)
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