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Mazatzal Peak SummitPayson, AZ
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[ Boulder Mountain ] from Ballantine TH is a tougher hike than this loop. :-k
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Y Bar Trail #44Payson, AZ
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david_allen_3Triplogs 131
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Arrived at the trailhead in late afternoon and mid 90s but it rained briefly shortly after arriving dropping the temperature about 5 degrees. Smell of Pinyon, juniper woodland was great. The sun was mostly behind the peak by the time I started. I cowboy camped about 2 miles in, had heavy rain for about 20 mins about midnight and overnight temps dropped into the mid 60s. Used an emergency shelter to stay dry. I was treated with a near and far lightning show all night Smelled great after the rain. Heard foxes calling nearby overnight. I saw 2 of the weirdest bugs ever, they had body color and texture of a spider but shape of a 2 inch cockroach and very fast. The next morning continued to Y bar saddle and then Y bar spring. Tree cover is good after about 3 miles in. Found a skunk next to the trail, unsure what to do a made some tapping noise but he didn't notice then when walking quietly closer he saw me and froze and just then I heard more noise to my right a saw a second skunk on the other side of the trail. I hastily continued on without incident. Bear sign was also noticed in more than one location. I was hoping for a little water at Y Bar Spring but it was dry. I couldn't find the start of the trail down to Y Bar Tanks, I think it is now covered with brush clippings and there is no signage. I could have made my way with or without the trail but being low on water I couldn't risk not finding water so I turned and headed back without a status report on Y Bar Tanks, too bad as they sound reliable at the tanks and further downstream according to other reports. The hike back was uneventful. The sun was intense when not under tree cover. Air temp was in the upper 80s higher up but upper 90s near the trailhead. The forecast promised moisture, clouds but the day was very dry compared to the day before.
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dry Y Bar Spring Dry Dry
Hiked up to what looked like the source but no water, ground was dry as well.
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Mazatzal Peak via Suicide Ridge, AZ 
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I tried this hike back in October with a friend, but he was hiking on little sleep and coming off a week full of physical activity, so he was dragging that day and we ended up turning around about a mile short of Mazatzal Peak. So I returned solo today to complete the hike we'd planned that day. There were no other vehicles at Barnhardt TH when I arrived, though one pulled up just as I got started on Y-Bar.

After a quick ~2 miles on the trail, I started up a mile-long ridgeline to connect with Suicide Ridge. The first ~0.2 miles of off-trail were the worst, with a lot of catclaw, agave, and cacti on the steep slope. Higher up, the brush transitions more to manzanita with less of the sharp stuff, and I was happy to encounter a lot of clipped branches that I cut in October...big thank you to my past self for the handy pre-clearing :).

It felt like a long mile up to Suicide Ridge, then I worked my way over toward Peak/Hill 7403, where I turned around last time. Lots of ladybugs there again, and I kept an eye out for the glove I lost near there last time but didn't see it. There was some thick brush beyond 7403, but it opened up again, and the hike along Suicide Ridge was very pleasant with a gentler incline and more pine trees on the way up to the summit. I reached the top around 10AM, a little over two and a half hours after I left the trailhead.

An ammo box at the top had two summit register notebooks full of entries dating back to 2010. Lots of familiar HAZ names...it would be easier to list who hasn't been up there :). The most recent entry was from 5/17, just over a week ago. With a strong wind blowing, it was cold at the summit, but I spent almost an hour up there enjoying the views and eating lunch. I've been hiking in the Mazatzals quite a bit over the last year, and after seeing Mazatzal Peak from so many of the other peaks, it was nice to get the opposite perspective.

When I started back, I went over to Peak 7823 first and took a look at the cool geology over that way, then connected with Suicide Ridge again to hike back on the same route. It was another long, slow, brushy mile on the way back to Y-Bar. Back at the trailhead, there were four other vehicles, but I didn't see another person all day. I was done by early afternoon and stopped by the Iron Dike ruins site on the drive back toward Phoenix.
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Apr 16 2024
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Y Bar MDT Rock Creek Barnhardt, AZ 
Y Bar MDT Rock Creek Barnhardt, AZ
 
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Took 3 days off from work to go check out the MDT and some areas I had blown by a couple of years ago while backpacking the AZT. Y Bar was a rocky challenge but it was cool and water was flowing across the trail at various locations. Someone a day ahead of us had been trimming some manzanita. Mark turned around at the saddle after a quick lunch and rest. I continued on to the MDT where a thru hiker was airing out her stinky feet and apologized. No worries, I kind of reeked of sweat myself and had only been hiking 4 hours tops. The MDT was smooth sailing, made good time but tried to slow down and enjoy the views. Met another hiker from NC who had seen a black bear with 2 cubs earlier in the day south of Bear Spring. He said "she looked at me, I looked at her", he backed up, gave her some space and after 5 minutes, she was gone into the manzanita. This gentleman was headed to Horse Camp Seep to meet up with other AZT hikers for the night.

Filtered some water from Chilson Spring (it's worth the climb for the great views), the water running across the trail in several areas was actually cleaner looking, but that's what filters are for. Made it to Chilson Camp by 4 or so. Set up, ate dinner, settled in. Two gentlemen set up tents nearby, said they were going to knock out 25 miles the next day. : rambo : Never heard a peep out of them :zzz: and they left camp early the next morning.

I headed out after breakfast for some day hiking. Someone a day ahead of me was still doing some trail trimming. He missed some catclaw around the North Fork of Deadman Falls, which was still flowing. I didn't see any reasonable way down the canyon without getting myself into trouble, so continued on to Horse Camp Seep. What a beautiful camping spot it is. It was empty so I had the falls to myself and relaxed for awhile. My next stop was Rock Creek Trail which starts off as a muddy trail up to Hopi Spring. After the spring, the trail was cleared well, but it was one heck of a climb. Someone was still trimming manzanita along the trail. I don't think I hiked much more than a mile, high enough to get a signal and text Mark that I was alive and well. After catching my breath, I headed back down to the MDT, back to Horse Camp Seep where I filtered 4 L of water to take back to camp.

Made it back to Chilson camp, had settled in for the afternoon, changed into my pajamas, was lounging on a "couch" I had made from a piece of wood and a couple rocks. I heard what sounded like a tornado coming down Brody Seep Trail and realized it was a huge swarm of bees. Quickly ran into my tent and hunkered down, hoping they would just pass through. Nope..they decided to cluster in a tree right by my tent. I waited until no bees were moving, VERY QUIETLY moved my stuff to the field, quickly packed up and left. Hiked a mile south on the MDT in my pajamas to the big tree camping area close to Barnhardt. After getting set up again, a crew from ACE showed up to set up their "emergency camp". They were planning on doing trail maintenance the next day, just arrived too late to go much further. It was lights out by 8:00 for everyone, me included. Temperature got down to 39 degrees that night, but quickly warmed up the next morning. Headed down Barnhardt trail about 7:00 and arrived at the TH about 10:30. Another great adventure! :y:
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AZT Mazatzal Divide - Y Bar Trail Maintenance, AZ 
AZT Mazatzal Divide - Y Bar Trail Maintenance, AZ
 
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Original plan was to spend 4 days out on AZT Mazatzal Divide #23 section brushing and cutting trees. However, the weather did not cooperate on Sunday and Monday so we modified the weekend. Headed out Friday morning from Barnhardt TH and up the Y Bar Trail with the intent of brushing some on the Y Bar on the hike into Bear Spring. Cool to see lots of water along the Y Bar Trail with all the rain and snow this season.

Spent several hours brushing Y Bar Trail in some areas and clearing a few trees. Then continued on to AZT Mazatzal Divide #23 and cut more trees and cleared other debris. Eventually made it to Bear Spring and camp for the night.

Next day part of the crew cut the remaining trees on AZT while rest of us did some minor brushing near the AZT and Y Bar junction. Took a break at the junction before continuing clearing the brushiest sections on the Y Bar on the hike out. The area around Y Bar Spring which was flowing strong needed fair amount of brushing and a few other areas.

Wrapped up the two day work event late afternoon Saturday thankfully getting out before the expected storm rolled in later that evening.
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Bear Spring - Fisher Quart per minute Quart per minute
spring looked about like it usually does. Little bit of algae but otherwise water was good quality

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water seeping out of the ground but really nothing that was easy to filter. This spot is usually dry most of the year except spring time

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plenty of water in 2 spots around the spring area running across the trail
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Mazatzal Divide: Peeley to Y-BarPayson, AZ
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Chris is on his AZT kick and next up was the sections of AZT #23 that he hasn't yet completed. I love the Mazzies and said "I'm in" as soon as he asked.

At first it was going to be a 10 miles up the Mazatal Divide trail and then back down the same way, but Chris came up with the idea of a shuttle hike from the Mt Peeley TH to Earnhardt TH. And, that's what we did. Wally and I met up at Casa De Stiller at 5am and then met up again at the Barnhardt TH. We left the Stiller-mobile there and took my truck back down to Mt Peeley TH.

The air was crisp for sure. High 20's, low 30's and a cloudless sky. There was a very cold breeze going in the exposed areas that made it almost COLD! I had read @emilystardust triplog for her visit to Mount Catherine from a week earlier from the same trailhead and saw they ran into more snow than they anticipated. I thought with all the warmer temps, the snow and ice would be limited. But, as we hiked, just about every north facing section of the hike had some sort of snow (and just a little ice). It was more like frozen snow.

The trail skirts Mount Peeley which looked like an easy summit and then cuts along the saddle/ridgeline to the base of Mount Catherine. This section was the nicest part for me. The areas was not hit with the recent (and not so recent) fires and was a lush alpine zone. Towering pines, lots of manzanita and other flora really made for a beautiful hike. The views on the way up and along the base of Mount Catherine were really nice as well. Mt Ord, Four Peaks, Superstition massif, even Weavers Needle was peaking up over the horizon. Looking to the north and east, the clear skies made the San Francisco Peaks very visible with the snowy cap.

Along the back side and moving down, we entered into the burn areas from recent and the formerly mentioned, no so recent fires. Lots of pine skeletons and very thick manzanita. We saw signs of new growth of pine in this area. Little Christmas trees all around.

The Divide trail skirts the Ridgeline between Mount Catherine and Mazatal Peak. I kept an eye out for where we would be meeting the Y-Bar trail, thinking it would be a climb up, but the trail climbed up a bit to skirt the base of Mazatal Peak and that's where we turned off for the Y-Bar Trail.

I read a little about this trail and was expecting a very over-grown, wild trail. And, in some respects, that was it was. It was a little over-grown in some areas and hard to follow. In other areas, there was a tremendous amount of tree fall from fires and the trail snaked along and in-between the trees. For much of the hike it was loose rocks that dominated. It was almost all down from the Divide Trail, but it makes its way around Mazatal Peak by going up and over the little ridges that come down from the peak. I was slow mover in this area. My recent knee issues have improved significantly, but I felt every step at the end, navigating one set of loose rocks after another.

It was a long day as we did not get back to the Mount Peeley TH until sunset (having arrived about sunrise). The drive in seemed rougher at the end of the day, but the road is in ok condition. The Barnhard TH road was worse, very rocky all the way up. I hit an area I have never visited and that was very nice. It's always a good day when I hike with Wally and Chris too. Thanks for the invite, Chris. It was a very enjoyable (painful) day....ha ha
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Mazatzal Divide: Peeley to Y-BarPayson, AZ
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Andy, Wally and I set up a shuttle hike from Peeley TH to Barnhardt TH. The main purpose of this was to hike the hard to reach section of the AZT/MDT south of the Y-Bar junction. 14 years ago I hiked this with the intent to just get about 8 miles in or more and turn around. That was probably one of the largest HAZ groups I've hiked with. I think we had 15 people and were on the edge of being legal in a wilderness area. We did it in March and it was my first introduction to the phenomena of north facing slopes in AZ having snow all winter. For that hike, the snow was very deep and slowed us down so that we weren't able to get as much done as we wanted. This hike had echoes of that on the north facing slopes, but didn't prevent us from our goal.

After dropping off the Stillermobile at the Barnhardt Th, we arrived at Peeley and started hiking at 7:30am. A half mile from the Peeley TH another truck was coming the other way in a very narrow spot on a very steep hill. I got out to help spot Andy so we didn't roll off the cliff, and so I wouldn't be in the vehicle if that happened 8-[ . It got light on the way in and there was no direct sunlight at the TH when we started. This made it very cold. Fortunately I packed and extra layer and decided to put it on. I was thinking I would take it off after a few miles, but it stayed on the entire hike. By the time we started on the trail, all off my fingers were totally numb. After a bit, they warmed up, but two fingers still remained numb. Only after a full mile did I regain feeling in all my digits. The gloves I had still remained on. I took them off eventually later on, but periodically put them on in shaded and windy areas.

The AZT/MDT is the highlight of this hike, and in general of the Mazzies as far as my experiences go. Higher elevations give amazing views of nearly half the state of AZ (Flag to the Rim to the Supes and the Valley) and the trail has been very well maintained since it's part of the AZT and the amazing volunteers obviously put in a lot of work. Once you're not on the AZT/MDT, Tonto NF policies come into play and trail conditions vary from 1)kinda sorta there, 2)suggested routes that are kind of hikable and might have a cairn here and there to 3)one of the many fires of the last 2 decades killed this and they need to take it off the maps.

There was still snow on all the north facing slopes once we were over 6000', enough that you had to pay attention and watch your footing or else you might slip, which I did a few times. Most of it was crunchy and gave good traction. However, there was a set of footprints going the other way that for every footprint, there was a small sheet of ice. Just enough to make it annoying. This however, was several degrees better than the knee high plus snow we encountered 14 years earlier. In areas where there wasn't snow in the shade, the soil was obviously frozen, so the temperature up there was easily below freezing all day in the shade, and we could feel it. There was also a lot wind at times, which I very much appreciated even with the cold weather. It was nice to be up in the mountains with such different conditions that in the desert heat for such a hot summer.

Y-Bar Trail was as advertised in the triplogs, very rocky and slow going. It's semi overgrown in some sections, but not more than having to push through some heavy brush here and there. The first mile and half going downhill from the AZT/MDT is the best part. It's a gentle downhill grade, wide open, and easy to follow. It's also almost all rerouted from the original alignment. I only became aware of this after I downloaded my track onto my computer and compared it to the track I saved from the hike Wally and I did in 2008 of the Mazzie Peak loop. We had hiked up the Y-Bar, but I distinctly remembered an area of heavy treefall and crossing a deep canyon and having to hike up a steep and faint trail. as we descended, I recognized that canyon from above and dreaded having to go into it again. Once we stayed high, I was confused but after comparing the tracks, everything was explained.

the loose rocks on Y-Bar was the worst part of the day, but not horrible. My knee hurt on that section, but today it's fine. Once we hit the loose rocks, Andy let me pass him because he's been dealing with knee issues this year and had to be careful. I was surprised at how far he fell back once I passed. There are 2 sections where the trail does a big switchback through small canyons. As I was leaving the canyon going onto the next, Andy still hadn't entered the canyon. At one point I did wipe out. there were not injuries other than to my brand new hiking poles that I just bought to replace one that will no longer collapse. Now one of the ones will no longer collapse because it's bent.

I ended up only being about 15 minutes ahead of him, which was enough time for me to do my normal change into a clean shirt and regular shoes. I also had time to finish the rest of my lunch so I wasn't hungry for the long drive back.

We saw one group of thru hikers on the AZT/MDT a couple of miles before the Y-Bar junction and one day hiker going up the Y-Bar as we were finishing up. Wally had talked to him and he told Wally he was going up to read his Bible. In below freezing temperatures. With no headlamp an hour before the sun was going down. I don't want to know.

Got back to the Peeley TH to deliver Andy to his truck and got home by 7. Had one minor hang up on the road to Barnhardt on the way out with some ranchers who were loading a bulldozer on a flatbed right in the middle of the road with minimal room to pass. After 4 minutes the oldest guy among them gave the "one minute" sign, and continued to fasten the chains on the dozer while standing in the one area that gave us enough room to pass. After 11 minutes I decided to make my way past him regardless of his comfort level. It might be a dirt road, but I think it's still a public ROW. :SB:
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Mazatzal Divide: Peeley to Y-BarPayson, AZ
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This is the short version of the hike. For full details see adilling's and DarthStiller's trip reports. We started the hike around 7am at the Mt Peeley TH. It was cold. The breeze was cold the shade was cold and I was cold. After about a mile of uphill you started to thaw. The Divide trail was in pretty good shape. There some snow in the shaded sections of trail but safe to cross as long as you were careful. The views on the Divide trail were great. You could see the Superstitions, Four Peaks, Mt Ord, the San Francisco Peaks, Bartlett lake and more. Not much fauna was encountered along the way but the birds were out. We stopped for lunch. It was cold. Y-Bar was easy enough to follow with some overgrowth in areas. The worst part of Y-Bar trail were the rocky sections where you needed to slow down to avoid injury. A nice day out on the trail with Andy & Chris. The best part of the hike was in the sun and out of the wind.
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Mazatzal Suicide Ridge Peak 7403, AZ 
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I hadn't seen ishamod since a hike to Sheep Mountain last spring, and it worked out return to the Mazatzals today. We started ~7:15AM from Barnhardt Trailhead, and there were a few hunters in the parking lot scoping the hills. We started up Y Bar--my first time on that trail--and it wasn't as bad as I expected after reading so many complaints about the rockiness in triplogs, but I'm sure low expectations helped with the experience.

Around 1.8 miles in, we left the trail to head up toward Suicide Ridge, following a ShatteredArm route from a few years ago...we were encouraged by his mention of "reasonably kind vegetation." The brush was dense over the first few tenths of a mile and included some catclaw, but it opened up a little more as we gained elevation, and the foliage transitioned into more friendly manzanita. We pulled gloves and clippers out to deal with the thicker areas, and it was a steep stretch from Y Bar up to Suicide Ridge, with ~1,700' of elevation gain in just under a mile. I felt bad about suggesting this for ishamod's first hike in six months...he was going on four hours of sleep and tired legs after multiple sports activities in the past few days, so I don't think he'd describe this as his most enthusiastic or energetic hike :).

It was a slow climb up to Suicide Ridge, and we started working our way over toward Mazatzal Peak, but it was clear that we weren't going to get there before turnaround time at our pace, and I had no interest in taking any chances that we'd have to drop down off Suicide Ridge in darkness. We continued a little farther and made Peak 7403 our turnaround spot...not the same popular and scenic destination as Mazatzal Peak, but 7403 still had an impressive quantity of ladybugs worthy of a Mazatzal summit, and we could see Mazatzal Peak ~1.2 miles to the southwest. I somehow lost a glove somewhere near 7403 but didn't find it on the way back, so I guess I have an added incentive to return this way another day...

After a short lunch break, we worked our way back down Suicide Ridge and descended the 1,700 feet the same way we'd come up. The clipping we'd done on the way up helped a little, but it was still very slow...the footing felt less stable on the way down. On the hike in on Y Bar in the morning, ishamod mentioned how rocky the trail was, and I told him by the end of the day we'd be grateful to be back on Y Bar after what was in store, and that was certainly true.

Other than the hunters in the morning, we didn't see anyone all day, and there were two other trucks in the parking lot when we finished. Disappointing we didn't get to Mazatzal Peak, but the route we took really wasn't bad...no major obstacles, and I think with fresher legs and more sleep for ishamod, time wouldn't have been an issue. In hindsight, we should've stayed on Y Bar longer to shorten the slower off-trail portions and accessed the ridge just south of Mazatzal Peak, but it was still a fun day--great catching up with ishamod, and the weather was perfect. We'll be back to reach the peak another day...
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Y Bar Trail #44Payson, AZ
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Meet 9 am. Alarming phone call nearly derails plans. Road in should be no problem for anything besides a car. Surprised to see only 2 vehicles at TH. Start hike 11 am, my norm.

This trail is rocky and steep. Couple of times we were wondering where the trail was. With Mazatzal peak our goal, we were assessing for the best route as we progressed.

Spot where saved track deviated from trail looked uninviting. We debated a couple others but continued. Decided to go a more direct route which appeared doable.

Slow going to put it mildly. Wash choked up and areas to climb out were steep with everything sliding out from under you. Finally had to bushwhack. A clearing allowed quicker progress while scrambling.

Finally could see summit and route up. However it was getting late and we agreed we would be best to turn around 🙁 Through darkness for final 2.5+ miles.
 
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I planned to hike in about 4 miles to the saddle and back but heavy smoke from the Valentine Fire east of Payson made if feel hard to breathe on the uphill and sucked the fun out of it so I abandoned the idea after only about 1.5 miles. I could see relatively thick smoke overnight in the beam of my flashlight. Overnight low along the ground where I cowboy camped was 51 degrees. Surprisingly at 5 feet above the ground (official height) it was 10 degrees warmer.
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Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 12 2023
BiFrostTriplogs 1,257
Hiking16.03 Miles 3,729 AEG
Hiking16.03 Miles   8 Hrs   3 Mns   2.18 mph
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Always a fun a loop although not necessarily in August. Still temps were not bad and morning cloud cover helped. Up the Y Bar first and noticed lots of bear scat to the divide but then really none the rest of the way. Great views of Mazatzal Peak ridge on upper Y Bar and then of course on the divide trail.

Took a break at the junction of Y Bar and Divide trail taking in the nice views of the steep side of Mazatzal Peak. Then the up and down traverse over to the Barnhardt Trail. Of course didn't see anyone until the Barnhardt Trail but only a few others enjoying the August heat in the Mazzies!


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 phoenix, az
Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 30 2023
trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
Hiking15.06 Miles 3,185 AEG
Hiking15.06 Miles   6 Hrs      2.62 mph
3,185 ft AEG      15 Mns Break
 
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john and i first did this hike in 2011
haven't hiked from barnhardt trailhead in almost five years
road is in good shape
we got going around 0620
nice grind up y bar, leveling out somewhat around 4.25 miles
reached the divide trail, and saw two azt thru hikers and four section backpackers on this short piece
down barnhardt, passing by the lightly flowing falls then taking a short break on a rock bench
enjoyed the views from the divide and the scenery in barnhardt canyon
water flowing in many drainages
still quite a few wildflowers
nice to be back out this way
we had lunch at dj's in fountain hills
thanks for hiking, john
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Apr 30 2023
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Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 30 2023
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Hiking15.26 Miles 3,185 AEG
Hiking15.26 Miles   6 Hrs      2.69 mph
3,185 ft AEG      20 Mns Break
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I haven't hiked out of Barnhardt in quite some time.
We started up the rocky, relentless Y Bar trail to some nice temps. Felt good to finally get to the saddle where things level out then onward to meet the Divide trail. We chatted with a couple AZT thru hikers on our way around Mazzy Peak.
By the time we headed down Barnhardt things were warming up. The first two miles are a bit bland until you start dropping into the canyon where the geology and water liven things up.
Light flow at Big Kahuna, but still a nice stop. The remainder of the hike went by pretty fast. Great scenery and the sound of running water in the creek were enjoyable. Good variety of wildflowers throughout the day.
We saw two collared lizards on the drive out. Lunch in FH. Thanks Kelly.
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Oct 01 2022
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 Joined Jan 20 2009
 Far NE Phoenix,
Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,762
Hiking15.94 Miles 2,854 AEG
Hiking15.94 Miles   7 Hrs   43 Mns   2.66 mph
2,854 ft AEG   1 Hour   44 Mns Break16 LBS Pack
 
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I got an invite to join the 2 social misfits on a hike around Mazzy Peak. I met them at the the TH and we headed up everyone's favorite, Y Bar #44. I actually don't mind it as much as most, but to get the views on this one, you'll need to turn around. It's 5.75 miles and a 2300' climb to get to the Divide trail. It's rocky and steep in sections. We passed a couple of guys on mules on their way down. All 3 of us noted the Michelob Ultra Light drink holder attached to the cowboys saddle.

Now up on the Mazzy Divide/AZT we passed 3 different groups of women thru hikers, headed southbound doing the AZT.

I'd forgotten how good the views are on this section of the trail. Views west and the backside of Mazzy Peak.

After a lunch break, we headed down the Barnhardt Trail. With all the rain this monsoon season, this one is starting to get tight in sections again. I still never get tired of this trail. Going down is much nicer because you get to enjoys the views and geology more. The light and clouds enhanced it all.

A good hike with the misfits. Thanks for the invite Chums
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Some muddy areas

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 Tempe, AZ
Mazatzal Peak LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 01 2022
chumleyTriplogs 1,994
Hiking15.44 Miles 3,397 AEG
Hiking15.44 Miles   7 Hrs   43 Mns   2.45 mph
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Forecast rain storms favored the southern half of the state, so we opted to head north of town. This one is a solid day with an easy drive and has just enough elevation to tolerate a day in the 80s.

We started up the rickroll rockroll and passed a couple horsemen approaching the saddle. Bruce and I eyed a side trip but opted against it. Upon reaching the divide, those mazzy views dazzled as they always do.

I kept hoping for some of those thunderstorms to bring some cloud cover, but we only got a few shade breaks as we neared barnhardt and the cruiser down. There was barely a trickle of surface water flowing off the mountain in the regular spots, but we took time to rest anyway. Another good trip out there. :)
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Apr 20 2022
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Peak 7579 - Mazatzal MountainsPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 20 2022
DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,377
Hiking15.96 Miles 4,040 AEG
Hiking15.96 Miles   10 Hrs   31 Mns   1.89 mph
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After hiking up to Peak 7571 last week, I thought that I'd hike up to Peak 7579 and see if I could handle the extra 8 feet of rarified air.

I should have done this hike from the Mount Peeley TH, but for some reason I decided to do it from the Barnhardt TH. I think that it was shorter to do it from Barnhardt, but the downside is that I had to hike the full length of the Y-Bar Trail not once, but twice. Not good.

The Y-Bar Trail was rockier than I remembered it (selective memory perhaps) and it was slow going and not very enjoyable. Once past the saddle where you'd turn to go to Mazzy Peak, the trail got better and it wasn't too bad from the saddle to the Mazatzal Divide Trail. The Divide Trail was a piece of cake for the short time that I was on it. The off-trail portion of the hike was worse than I thought that it would be: lots of deadfall, very rocky tread, some manzanita to push through, and a section of dense young pine trees to go through. At least I avoided the pine trees on the way back down. Views at the summit were great, so I stayed up there for a while.

On the way back in the off-trail portion, my Garmin GPS somehow fell off of my backpack, so I had to backtrack a bit to retrieve it, which added probably 1/4 mile and 100 feet of elevation gain to the hike. I use the Garmin as a backup to route scout, and even though it isn't my primary navigational device I did not want to lose it.

This hike was WAY slower than I thought that it would be. I probably didn't go over 2 mph on much of the Y-Bar Trail, and the off-trail portion was even slower than that. If I was to ever do this hike again I'd start from the Peeley TH and take the Mazatzal Divide Trail over to Peak 7579.

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I am confident in saying that the soles of my shoes will never again touch the Y-Bar Trail!
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There were quite a few yellow flowers along the way (I have to find out what they are), which added some color to the hike.

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I do not know how much water was at the spring, but there was water running across the Y Bar Trail
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It's been a couple of years since I summited the true highpoint of Gila County ;), but the last time I was here Linda and I descended to the north via an unnamed drainage I'll call Suicide West Fork. Along the way, Suicide Ridge loomed off to the east and I put it in the memory bank for a route that looked worth visiting sometime.

I proposed this loop to 9L and he ignorantly decided that it sounded fun. On the drive in we scoped the various options that gain the ridge and chose the one that looked best. This required about 1.5 miles of warmup on the Y-bar, which has received recent trail maintenance. Oh, it's no less annoying than it's always been, only now there are signs of recent disturbances in the dirt.

At about the 4900 foot contour, shortly after entering the wilderness and crossing the first drainage, we headed straight up the adjacent slope. It's less than a mile to reach the ridge, but gains 1800 feet, so it's plenty steep. Abundant desert flora dots the hillside, but rarely provides unavoidable resistance. As the grade moderates near the ridge, some more healthy thickets of manzanita appear, but is rarely more than thigh-high and getting through is nothing any fan of off-trail Arizona desert hiking would consider much of a challenge.

The next stretch following Suicide Ridge to the Mazzy summit was a highlight of the day. Despite poor air quality today, the views are expansive and the final 1000 feet of ascent stretches over a pleasant 2.5 miles.

We took a break at the summit before heading down via the same Suicide West Fork drainage I had done last time. This is always a great route and remnant winter snowpack and plentiful running water made the canyon a treat. That last half mile does make reaching the pristine tread of the Barnhardt Trail a welcome transition.

We stopped at the Suicide Central Fork falls which were flowing lightly before making quick work of the last few miles back to the car, along the way passing the only other hikers we saw all day.

There are no easy ways to gain the Mazzy Peak summit, but I would definitely include this as one of the of options.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Mazatzal Peak SummitPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 02 2022
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Hiking20.10 Miles 7,232 AEG
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Had a few goals for the day:
- Get back on Mazatzal Peak
- Check out the snow melt in the drainage to the north
- Use the same drainage to get down to Barnhardt Canyon
- Ascend Peak 6768 from the south
Started at the Barnhardt TH at sunrise with one car already there. Went clockwise to keep most of the climbing out of the snow.

Followed basically the same track up Suicide Ridge as in 2020. It was much less of a bushwhack this time around, and I managed to avoid the worst of it. It is still as steep as ever to make the ridge. More and more snow climbing up, toward the bottom a few inches with drifts toward the top up to a foot deep. It started to get slippery as the sun got going overhead. Fifth summit and first time ever meeting folks on the mountain above the trail. Talked the mountains for a little and didn't see each other again until 9 hours later for a fireside beer back at the trailhead.

Visibility on top was great, the weather perfect. Sauntered over to Mazzy Peak's twin 7832. Had never made the effort before and now it's unskippable for me. Descended from that peak to the drainage through the forest which had a solid foot of snow nearly the whole way down. There's rocks and boulders hidden underneath and I got to sliding and falling a few times. Strongest flow of water there I've seen, but it was frankly dangerous descending through the steepest parts of the chute. It was covered in deep snow and very slippery to down climb through, especially not knowing what was underneath. The consolation prize was all the cascades and the big water fall up top.

Went straight past the trail and down, and along the way I passed Sandy Saddle Trail's old track, which is now non-existent around Casterson Seep. The drainage is the easiest way down there. After a couple more waterfalls, the canyon cliffs out, so I climbed to the east through bands on 5923. It pretty clear of brush, though tough climbing in the heat of the day. Got down to Barnhardt Canyon where only two massive pines remain.

Climbed through the grass up 6768. Easy to avoid bushwhacking, only a little scrambling, but it is super steep from that direction, short as it may be. Better on a weekend when there's an audience for the effort. Clear blue skies and a top tier view of Suicide Ridge. It's all so much closer together than it seems. Climbed up to 7571, which is a similar story for the terrain. Grassy, though not as steep. Nearing 7559 the snow deepened until it was six inches to a foot descending. Sliding on the snowy jasper is a hell of a workout.

Rock Creek had snow until after the falls. As good of a flow as I've seen there. Started to hustle, being back on trail. Ran out of water on Half Moon and it made for a long 4 miles. Got back with only ten minutes by headlamp.
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Fun to do this loop again. It’s been a few years but we had the old track and it followed pretty much the same as before. Taking the Y Bar trail to the saddle we continued off trail up the east ridge. Some sporty scrambles on the ridge keep things interesting but we made the summit before lunch. Took a break and then continued down the north slope to a cool lunch spot in the pines. After lunch we followed the route down the drainage on the west side which has the most sporty off trail scrambling of the hike. Really enjoyed the rocky slabs and poor offs that we hiked around. Some small occasional pools of water that would be fine for filtering if needed. Eventually we hit the Barnhardt Trail and then it was just an easy cruise back out to the trailhead. Very cool to do this hike again and good one to hit every couple of years!
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