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Kachina Spur Trail #150A - 3 members in 9 triplogs have rated this an average 3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Kachina Spur Trail #150AFlagstaff, AZ
Flagstaff, AZ
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Hiking12.38 Miles 1,999 AEG
Hiking12.38 Miles   6 Hrs   24 Mns   2.34 mph
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Got some peeps out for this despite the stormy forecast. Rocky dirt road run adjacent to the trail. Needless to say, no other vehicles at the starting point.

Hiked trail in reverse which feels correct. Wading through ferns and enjoying the beauty. 4th time to this spot. 1st time from spur trail. No difficult section, just slowly wears you down.
 
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Fremont and Weatherford Canyon Recon, AZ 
Fremont and Weatherford Canyon Recon, AZ
 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking7.32 Miles 3,482 AEG
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Another Pipeline Fire survey: Apologies for the lengthy triplog and photoset.

It was a predicted down day for monsoon activity but still hot enough that the highest elevations were desirable. With my tolerance of people making Humphreys literally unhikeable at this time of year, I opted for Fremont. Only thee Hazzers before have posted trips that include the SE ridge route, and I hadn't previously checked out this access either, so I figured today would be a good day for it.

It's been 2 years since the Pipeline Fire, and the FS continues with an official closure of Shultz Pass Road and the Weatherford Trail itself. (Along with the closure of the Inner Basin Road, this severely restricts much of the use of south and east sides of the mountain.)

I stopped by the Wheel of Fortune set and bought a shopping cart full of the vowels I and E before heading off to the end of Freidlein Prairie road. It once accessed 14 amazing campsites, but is now in a year-round camping prohibited area for which the only purpose is to access the wilderness. There were no other vehicles there.

The aspen regrowth along the spur was impressive. The average height was over 4 feet, and a good number of sprouts reached 7 and 8 feet tall. In just TWO years!! This would become a theme on the day in the fire-damaged areas. Upon reaching 102, there was an orange striped A-frame with no further information. I followed the trail through the unburned lower slopes for half a mile before deviating to be in compliance with the forest ordered trail closure.

The trail was lost to a cavernous washout in the drainage at the 9040 contour. I found it remarkably challenging to find a route both into and out of this deeply-carved flood channel. It will require quite a bit of trail work to build a route through this one once the upper slopes have stabilized and limited future flooding. It's a good example of why this trail is closed.

I traversed the adjacent slope steeply and finally gained the Fremont SE ridge at the 9200 contour. This lower ridge is mostly grassland sparsely dotted with both burned and unburned trees. Crossing 102 again at the 9700 contour is where the real burn area began. At this point, travel wasn't terrible -- most of the dead trees are still standing -- but the growth of aspen was so thick that it was reminiscent of manzanita bushes in the Mazzies (only remarkably soft and pleasant, comparatively!)

Three more trail crossings, and the final 102 encounter in the switchback on the ridge at 10,400 brought much of the same. If there were aspen before, there is prolific aspen regrowth now. Where white pine dominated, the forest floor was lined only with new grass and ferns. I did not see a single new pine sprout all day.

I continued up through the burn, encountering the beautiful grassy glade that provides the most direct route to the summit, and covering about 1000 vertical feet. I put effort into making wide switchbacks across the slope to lessen the grade, but I'd be lying if I didn't admit it was a grueling and exhausting endeavor.

Along the way however, the fire scar is left behind, and healthy old pines surround you. It is nice that a portion of this slope, and all of it to the west, was spared. The upper reaches of the ridge enter a more volcanic, bouldery, cinder slope, but there was no problem zig zagging a route through to the summit.

It was a delightful day with a light breeze and beautiful clouds making for dramatic skies. One of the few lady beetles decided to bite my leg, but the swarm of black flies provided only minor nuisance as they tended to themselves on the windbreak rock structure.

I began the return retracing my steps through the glade and down to the 102 at the 10,100 contour before again poaching a short stretch of badly eroded old road. At the 10,000ft switchback I again went off-trail, paralleling another badly carved flood channel through a dense forest of chest-deep new aspen growth. It was rare to have an opening enough to see my feet and where they were landing.

I clipped the trail again in the switchback at 9550, where an absolute disaster of flooding has destroyed any sign of the old roadbed once built here. At this point the flood damage was so pronounced I actually found it easier to walk in the bottom of the drainage, often scoured to a flat-ish sandy bottom.

This canyon bottom had been a fall favorite in the past and I was curious to see how it had fared. The flood damage is extreme, but the lower canyon itself has large swaths of forest that are either unburned, or only lightly damaged by fire. The flood scars will take many years to recover though.

I gave up my exploration in the Aspen Spring area. Flooding has obliterated what might have once existed here, and I set out up the slope to reconnect with Kachina and the spur back to my truck.

There were numerous signs of elk all day -- all those aspen sprouts should provide ample forage for years to come, but I only spotted a couple of small herds of deer in the lower grasslands.

The Fremont ridge route will likely become more difficult (perhaps impossible) in the years to come as the burned trees fall and create a maze of deadfall. There is the treeless glade that exists below the ridge on the west side which should offer a clear path ... but the tiring side slope will add to the effort.

The Weatherford trail is passable now, and it does see some use. I doubt the FS is out there writing tickets for it, rather just posting it as closed so users recognize it as nearly obliterated. It is definitely not the sweet track that trailrunners once cruised on. Deadfall will plague it for a decade to come, and I'm not sure the smooth tread will ever return. The sections I encountered were Y-bar-esque.

The flood damage down below it remarkable. The shelves above the drainages look better than expected and I hope for a quicker recovery here.

All told, it was an enjoyable day on the 2nd highest peak Arizona allows you to visit in summer. I enjoy taking stock of the effects of fire and flooding and keeping track of how the area recovers over time.
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Freidlein Prairie to Kachina Trail, AZ 
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I drove my old Honda CR-V (Wanda-the-Honda) as far as I could along Freidlein Prairie Road, FR 522. Got as far as Campsite #12, and had to back downhill a bit, as it becomes more like 4WD for a short section. The CR-V has all-wheel drive, does okay, but is not great. So, had to hike along the road for about a mile before reaching the trail.

I hiked up to the junction with the Kachina Trail, then along it toward the Weatherford Trail until I reached the point I had turned around on my previous hike (coming up from the Weatherford Trail). I then retraced my steps and headed up the Kachina Trail.

The weather was great, and I saw no other hikers or mountain bikers, despite the fact it was a Sunday.

I'm still trying to get back in shape. I felt a lot stronger on this hike than I have for a while.
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Kachina Trail #150Flagstaff, AZ
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It had been a year since I had been on the Kachina Trail, so I decided to hike it again in hopes of seeing some yellow aspen leaves.

This trail is a nice one, although we were too early for a glorious fall foliage show. There were some yellow aspens, and in places there was a nice foliage show. However, there were far more aspen trees with green leaves than yellow ones.

This hike is tougher than you'd think. We did an out-and-back hike starting at the snowbowl, which meant that most of the elevation gain was on the way back. Once we got to the Kachina spur trail, we took it up to the Weatherford Trail before turning around and heading back.

We did not see many people on the hike until we got within a mile of the TH on the way back -- then we encountered quite a few people.

This hike is a nice one if you are in the area, but it would have been better to wait a week or so wrt seeing aspen trees in their fall glory.
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There were a few yellow aspen leaves to be seen, but there were way more aspens with green leaves than yellow ones. I would say that peak foliage is a week or more away.
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San Francisco Peaks Loop, AZ 
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LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking27.13 Miles 4,482 AEG
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This is really more of a runner's circuit, but I gave it a go before I tried to mess with the route or add anything to it. Started with Humphreys Trail first from the Kachina TH in order to get the elevation out of the way before any storms could blow in.

Humphreys passed three groups and one pair of tents off the trail around 10kft.

Weatherford through Inner Basin didn't see anyone. Rees Fire was putting out a little smoke but died down later on. Really small, would be surprised if the rain didn't put it out. Stopped a few times to try to save my legs and enjoy the views inside the mountains. Clouds were blowing over the peaks by 8am.

Waterline watched the storms roll over Doney and into Flagstaff. First thunder at 10:30. Past a biker headed into the dark clouds over Lockett Meadow. Waterline starts and ends in nice forests and has a good angle on Doyle and the cluster of peaks to the southeast, but it's definitely better on a bike.

From Schultz Tank took the AZT from Weatherford and then Secret Trail, which is really a mountain biking trail. Cut through the forest to Kachina Spur. Kachina was a long 5 and a half miles. Rain for much of it. Ferns were covered in water and got me pretty soaked. Saw a lot of people on either end but few in the rainy middle.
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Mostly just Inner Basin and the lower parts of Waterline
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Fremont - Doyle - Schultz, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
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The forecast on Saturday didn't look particularly good for any of the options I had in mind, so I decided to delay my weekend fun for a day. It turned out to be a good decision! I encountered quite a bit of hail that had accumulated Saturday and survived overnight. The models were hanging on with a few storms for Sunday, so I opted for an early start. There were some great clouds making the morning magical, and I topped out at Doyle Saddle just after 8 before heading off-trail toward Fremont. I'd never done these in this direction, so it was a nice change of pace.

I like Fremont, but the geology and trees on Doyle make it a more scenic peak IMO. I missed the cabin again, but this time I made myself go back and find it! Pretty cool structure. It appears to get some regular use. Plenty of firewood, and the hanta seemed to be tamped down to a level that would not be immediately fatal. :o

I took a new route from Doyle down the ridge to Schultz. This was a really scenic part of the day. The bright green grassy meadow and expansive views are a winner! From there I took a terrible route down. I'm not sure if there's a less-steep option, but I would hate to climb up this way, and it absolutely destroyed my knees on the descent.

I had originally planned to start from Weatherford and therefore get to take the canyon back, but I forgot campfires are prohibited on Schultz Pass road, and it was cold and rainy, so I opted for a fire at a campsite on Freidlein Prairie instead. I actually think that saved me a mile on the day!

This was a fun loop. I'd actually do it again. :)
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Kachina Spur Trail #150AFlagstaff, AZ
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I'm a little late posting this, but... I headed out to find some fall/autumn colors like everyone else. I chose this area because I wanted something new to me, and I've done some of the more popular areas. Plus I like a good drive and new that Freidlein Prairie Rd (FR522) would be nice and scenic. I logged this as the spur trail rather than Kachina itself since I only headed out about mile on it before coming back, then I went over to the weatherford intersection and then headed back to my truck. I had been hearing rumors that the more popular ares on the mountain starting to lose most of there leaves and figured this was a little lower it might be yellow and that it was! Plenty of color to go around. The other nice thing was that while some of the other more popular fall color trails have a line to wait in, this area was virtually people free. There was campers along fr522, but once I got out on the trail I encountered 2 people.

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The aspen were full yellow, but this was 10/14
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I did Kachina Trail starting from the TH at the east end of Freidlein Prairie Rd (FR522). I planned to do an out-and-back, so I thought I'd prefer to do the "uphill" half first. I learned it doesn't make much difference on this trail -- it climbs and drops several times, as it crosses drainages coming off the high peaks -- feels about the same, going and coming. (I'll admit, though, that I was faster on the way east than I had been going west -- carrying less water as well as losing a bit of net elevation.) Doing Kachina in this direction gave me the chance to see what there is to see along FR522, which I'll use in future. That is a pretty rough road -- took about a half hour to do just about 3 miles. Besides having the chance to see the scenery along FR522, I had another benefit from doing the trail from east to west -- I ran into a Forest Service employee just as I was starting up the spur trail toward Kachina, and I'm glad I had the chance to chat with him about current fire activity and such. As for the trail, itself, some of the ferns along Kachina Trail are growing 5 feet+ tall! And in places they reach out from both sides and obscure the trail - but the trail doesn't make any dramatic turns in those areas, so if you keep on pressing through the ferns you can see the tread OK. I saw a deer or elk pretty early in the hike - not sure which because the animal was partly obscured in the trees - color was light tan. There are several dead trees lying across the trail, but only one was too big to clamber over easily. People have been turning uphill to walk around the end of that log, so I hope the FS or some lovely volunteer group will saw a chunk out of it before too long. (I guess that's extra tough in the Wilderness Area since chainsaws are not allowed!) It rained off and on (mostly on) for at least 2 hours, from about 1:30PM. And some little hail was included with the rain at times, for good measure. My feet got very wet, despite my fancy GTX-lined hiking shoes, because the ferns held a lot of water in their leaves, and showered me from the hips down all afternoon. My socks were wicking the water right down to my feet. So all in all, a perfect July day in the Kachina Peaks! :y: I did not quite get to the end of the trail at Snowbowl Rd, which is why I pegged the distance covered at about 10 miles. I can't be precise, so that's just based on time hiked, my usual hiking speed, and perceived effort on the day. (BTW, plenty of parking at the TH east end of FR522, and the spur trail is wide and well-marked with signs.)
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Freidlein Prairie Campsite 13, AZ 
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This was more car camping than hiking. We did try to find the Kachina Spur Trail #150A to go up to longer trails, but everything was covered with 6" of snow. We camped for two nights. Because we were car camping, I brought my Ridgid X4 18V Orbital Reciprocating Saw with two batteries. We recharged the batteries by plugging the charging unit into the 400 W inverter I brought. We had more than enough fire wood.
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