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I fell for the allure of a coolish, cloudy morning and headed to the end of Speedway, desperate for some hike time that didn’t involve two hours minimum in the car.

Within minutes of leaving the trailhead the evil sun reared its fiery self and set about roasting me.

I sucked it up and decided to keep going. It was a good thing too, because I got to see lots of critters much better acclimatized to roasting than I.

There was a desert tortoise, two deer, a squirrel, about a dozen lizards, and bugs. I got pictures and video of the tortoise and deer.
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Barrel cactus is pretty much it. They look like their crowns are on fire, but maybe that’s the heat getting to me.
 
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Spent another long weekend in the islands, which is always a nice option. Mixed it up a little bit from last time to cover some new ground for me.

Saturday
Turkey Creek TH to Manning Camp
8.23mi - 3,901aeg - 4:54
We got started around 8 to mild temperatures and some welcome cloud cover to help temper the morning heat before gaining some welcome elevation. Arriving at Mudhole Spring revealed our first glimpse of things to come all weekend. It wasn't exactly dry, but drawing anything consumable would have been quite a chore. We did some maintenance work with hopes that it would make it a better option for the next visitors here.

The stretch of trail between Mudhole and Deerhead (which I think has long-since ceased being even a seasonal source for water) is impressively steep, and it sort of broke me. Eventually, I regained my step and headed over to Spud Rock Campground. The marked spring there is dry as a bone, but the spring box did have a foul puddle at the bottom. I don't think I'd have figured out how to draw consumable water from this one.

Climbed the Switchback trail to the ridge and the final climb from there to the Fire Loop junction before rolling down into a deserted Manning Camp. Unease began to settle in as the reliable spring that NPS reports has only dried out twice in recorded history was a dust bowl :o . This would make a quick end to any attempt to spend a weekend backpacking here. After dropping packs and doing some investigating, we discovered that there was about 20 gallons of water in the NPS-use-only rainwater collection barrel which eased the potentially very bad situation we found ourselves in. While there was no water in the spring and the pond was empty, there was still a pool of unappealing water in the bedrock below camp. After cutting through the oily surface film and treating a liter, we learned that this pool would suffice.

In later thoughts, I don't know if NPS reports of the spring drying out only 2 times historically also required the skunky bedrock pool to dry out too? If so, this doesn't qualify since there's still water available. If not, this would be time number 3 that the spring is not producing any water. Presumably it will take monsoon rains before this changes.

Reef Mica Head Loop
5.16mi - 1035aeg - 2:05
This was a first Rincon trip for 10s so after setting up camp, I tour-guided an afternoon jaunt across the top of the mountain, hitting a couple of the east slope viewspots. The dozens of miles of trails and cool rock formations at elevations in the 8k range are what make this such an enjoyable destination.

After a couple of hours exploring we headed back to camp. With water issues alleviated, we all settled in for the evening. Some periodic island breezes died down as the night went on and delightful late-May temps settled into the upper 30s overnight.

Sunday
Cowhead Grass Shack AZT Loop
11.51mi - 3014aeg - 5:03
I had never done any of the west side trails here on the east side of No Saguaros National Park, so I proposed the HAZ-reported 10.7 mile loop that dropped down to Grass Shack via the AZT and the parallel Cow Head Saddle Trail. On my suggestion we went ccw down via Cow Head, opting to make the return climb on the AZT, assuming it would be very nice tread and ample shade. I was wrong. Oh sure, the tread is nice, and the grade was great, but despite the forest being nicely wooded, the trail has been so well maintained that there is no shade to be found as the 20-foot wide trail cut takes care of that possibility!

Nonetheless, it was an enjoyable loop and I was glad to knock off another few miles in my quest to never complete any segment of the AZT. Cow Head was a very nice trail to descend to Cow Head Saddle. We cut down to the AZT via the Douglas Spring Trail, which was my least favorite mile of the loop. The low point on the day was 5300 feet at Grass Shack where we took a break in the shade. As with the other typical water sources, there was a small pool of unappealing water here. This one would have worked in a pinch, but we were happy not to have to rely on it.

We all made the ascent at our own various paces, finally reaching the more pleasant pondo shade of the upper mountain at around the 7kft contour shortly after the noon hour with the temp having topped out at 81 about halfway up. We all spent a couple hours recovering in the 71-degree mountaintop shade and breezes at Manning Camp.

Mica Spud Loop
4.85mi - 966aeg - 2:23
Karl and John and I decided to hit a couple of the highlights we hadn't gone to yesterday, with a visit to the technical highpoint of the range, which features the views and excitement of any county highpoint in a corn-growing state. Thankfully, a short distance away stands Spud Rock, and while a few feet lower, it offers the money shot views that should not be missed for any visitor to this mountain.

Back at camp we were joined by a trio of hikers who had come up from Douglas Spring earlier in the day, and one solo hiker who had come up via Turkey Creek. Two additional hikers stopped by on a 14-mile round trip from Happy Valley just to get water! Those 6 were the only other humans we saw all weekend save for a pair down near the trailhead as we finished up.

Monday
Manning Camp to Turkey Creek TH
9.17mi - 573aeg - 3:38
Another morning that started in the 30s but moderated quickly. We hit the trail at 8, taking the southern Tibberroute via the Bathtub Spring Trail across to Heartbreak Ridge. This time we opted for the East Slope Trail which was very enjoyable as it descends to Spud Rock Campground. From here it was a repeat of the ascent two days prior on the Turkey Creek Trail. You definitely notice the grade in the mile above Mudhole Spring and it was nice to take a breather there before bombing down the bottom half back enjoying a nice post-hike snack under the shaded canopy of Sycamores in (the very dry) lower Turkey Creek.

Recap
Incredibly dry out there. Lots of turkey and deer wandering through Manning Camp, probably because it's the only place for miles that has any water at all. Great views and enjoyable hiking on these great NPS trails as always. Good to hike with 19Ls, Karl, and Kathy. Thanks for the company and conversation. Tacos at BKs are as good as always but it's a $20 proposition for lunch now. Alas, the days of $2 tacos are a distant memory.
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dry Deer Head Spring Dry Dry
There's no sign of this spring even existing anymore.

dry Devils Bathtub Dry Dry
Sandy dry.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Grass Shack Spring Dripping Dripping
Not dripping. No flow. Just a small skunky, hot, algae-filled puddle in the sandy drainage.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Manning Camp Spring Dripping Dripping
Spring is dry. The normally fenced in "pond" is dust. There is a pool of water in the bedrock where campers are supposed to draw water from. It's not flowing nor particularly appealing. But it works. It is conceivable that this pool does not last to when monsoon rain arrives.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Mud Hole Spring - Mica Dripping Dripping
A couple of gallons of filterable water in the pool. Barely a trickle otherwise.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Spud Rock Spring Dripping Dripping
Signed spring is dry as a bone. Concrete spring box had a few inches of nasty water about 2 feet below the surface. Would be hard pressed to draw water from it.
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May 24 2025
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This was my first backpacking trip in 7+ years, and I was excited to join the group on the second iteration of their previous 3-day / 2-night Memorial Mica trip in 2022.

Day 1 - Saturday
Hike 1: Turkey Creek TH to Manning Camp (8.85 mi / 4,017 AEG / 4h 19m)
Chumley, 9L, and I left The Valley ~5AM and drove to Turkey Creek TH, where we met Karl and Kathy. After some final packing, we were on the trail just after 8AM to start the climb up to Manning Camp. The first two miles were relatively flat as we hiked into Saguaro NP, then the steepness increased as we ascended into higher desert ~ three miles in.

We took a break at Mud Hole Spring, which was a small, muddy pool, and 9L and Chumley dug out some of the mud and debris in the hope that it would look clearer on the hike out on Monday. The steepness increased again as we resumed the climb, with a lot of rock steps built into the trail that increased the difficulty. Deer Head Spring was dry, and we detoured over to Spud Camp and Spring among a nice aspen grove. The campground was empty; the spring itself was dry, and the concrete spring box had some stagnant, murky water a few feet down...not a great time for moisture on the mountain.

9L and I arrived at the empty Manning Camp a little after noon and checked out the water situation. The fenced-in pool near the pump house was dry, and the the main water source below had two stagnant pools that didn't look too appetizing. After a short rest, Johns 9 & 10 explored down the drainage in an unsuccessful search for a more appealing water source. When the rest of the group arrived, we agreed that the pools were good enough to filter, and we set up camp and relaxed for a while.

Hike 2: Overlook Loop (5.22 mi / 1,168 AEG / 2h 5m)
Before dinner, Chumley and I hiked a lasso-loop from camp that included Reef Rock and an unnamed overlook. Great views from both spots that collectively included Rincon Peak, the Galiuros, Wrightson, and Mt. Graham among many other landmarks, and the second overlook included a fun scramble to the top with the help of a short tree stump ladder. Back at camp, we ate dinner and hung out under the party lights into the wee hours of mid-evening before retreating to our tents. We had the campground to ourselves, and comfortable daytime temps dropped into the upper 30s overnight.

Day 2 - Sunday
Hike 1: Grass Shack Loop (11.41 mi / 3,102 AEG / 5h 3m)
After wakeup calls from the wild turkeys, we packed up for a day hike to some lower elevations and started a counter-clockwise loop, heading west along Cow Head Saddle Trail. With the low morning sun, we had pleasant shade and stopped at a few overlooks on the way down, with some steep sections of trail, much of which once again had stone stairs built in courtesy of the NPS. We took a break at the saddle and saw three guys hiking up from Douglas Spring, headed for Manning Camp. Tanque Verde Peak was only 2.5 miles away from there, and I was tempted to rush over there, but time and lack of water kept me from trying it.

We continued down to the deserted Grass Shack Campground and paused for another break. Chumley checked out the spring, which was almost completely dry, then we had the long climb back up to Manning. That included a lot of sun exposure and more steps, and it felt great to get back into the shade and cooler temps of the ponderosas at higher elevations. Chumley and I arrived just as the three guys we'd seen earlier hiked into camp.

Hike 2: Man Head - Mica - Spud Rock Loop (4.96 mi / 1,079 AEG / 2h 23m)
After hanging around camp for a few hours and filtering more water, Karl, Chums, and I went on another short hike to check out some of the upper destinations north of camp. The first stop was Man Head, another landmark that looked nothing like its name...Chumley told me it looked more like an eagle, but I struggled to see any resemblance to Bruce. We passed Mica Meadow, then stopped at the Mica highpoint. Karl had warned me it was one of the least impressive high points of any range in Arizona, and that was true: limited views, flat, and not much to see other than some small remnants of the old lookout.

Then it was on to Spud Rock, which looked nothing like a potato but provided the best 360° views of the weekend. We relaxed on top until the winds got too annoying, then completed the loop back to camp. Chumley and I went over to a water tank that had a random tent setup nearby, and back at the campsite, one other solo backpacker had shown up, along with two hikers from Colorado who'd hiked all the way up from Happy Valley to Manning to filter water because they couldn't find any down below. The most common question from the other backpackers after seeing the pools at Manning: "Did you guys filter that water?"

We cooked dinner, and I learned from the previous night's mistake and ate two of the undersized freeze-dried meals, and we hung out under the lights and had another night in the upper 30s.

Day 3 - Monday
Hike: Manning Camp to Turkey Creek TH (9.06 mi / 670 AEG / 3h 42m)
We ate breakfast, broke camp, and headed out around 8AM. We took a slightly different route down, leaving camp south via the AZT, then passing by the dry Devil's Bathtub, then north past Spud Rock Campground before eventually connecting with Turkey Creek Trail. Going down the upper stretches made me appreciate how steep that climb had been on Saturday. We stopped at Mud Hole Spring again, and the pool was a little clearer after Chumley and 9L cleared out a bunch of the gunk two days prior. We kept a fast pace the rest of the way and were back at the trailhead before noon.

The three of us relaxed in the shade of the sycamores near Happy Valley Campground, then drove into Tucson for lunch at BKs. Much better than I expected since my initial fear when I heard "BK" was that we were headed to Burger King. Traffic wasn't terrible for a holiday, and we were back in Phoenix by mid-afternoon.

Summary
I really appreciated the invite--it was a fun weekend from start to finish. This was 100% uncharted territory for me, so I got to explore an entirely new area. The phrase I heard most often during the weekend was some version of, "There was a lot more water here last time!" I can only imagine how beautiful it would be out there with water flowing. It was great meeting Karl, Kathy, and 9L...I always enjoy a good John-squared hike, and this one was sequentially numbered. And, after a long layoff, it was nice to backpack again...I had to borrow a lot of gear, and especially since I own almost no specialized backpacking equipment, I was happy my pack weight remained manageable. I suppose years of consistently overpacking on day hikes helped prepare me for carrying an actual backpack again :).
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dry Deer Head Spring Dry Dry
Completely dry; even with a sign, it was hard to tell where the spring would be

dry Devils Bathtub Dry Dry
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Manning Camp Spring Dripping Dripping
Pool inside the fence near the pump house completely dry. There are two pools of water below that with a sign indicating that's where campers can filter. Pools were stagnant and murky but filterable.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Mud Hole Spring - Mica Dripping Dripping
Small pool that started out murky and full of debris. Looked more filterable two days later after the group cleared a lot of the debris out on the hike in.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Spud Rock Spring Dripping Dripping
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Stagnant pool deep in the concrete box; the actual spring was dry
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Started from Turkey Creek Trailhead after the drive in Saturday morning. A bit warm in the lower slopes but still managable. It's about 2.5 miles before we hit any significant shade which is also about the time we reached Mud Spring and took the first break.

After the break it's into the trees and cooler as we gained elevation up to Deerhead Spring and the ponderoa pines. We passed Spud Rock Campground and then up and over the ridge to Mannign Camp at 8,000 feet. Reaching camp we setup and relaxed the afternoon away. Chumley and 10s were more motivated and hiked over to Reef Rock and Mica Secondary. Surprisingly not much water in the Manning Camp main pool near camp...never seen it that dry before.

Day 2 Chumley came up with a Grass Shack Loop about 10 miles or so. Leisurly start in the morning hiking down towards Cow Head saddle. Ran into a couple of backpackers heading to Manning at the saddle where we took a short break. Contining on and dropping down into Grass Shack it was getting warmer. Not much water at Grass Shack...emergency only!! Took another break before starting the uphill climb to Manning. It got a bit warm in spots but the trees in the upper ascent provided nice shade and a cool breeze helped a lot. Reached camp and ran into the backpackers we saw earlier in the day. Took a break in camp and contemplated another day hike.

Eventually Chumley, 10s and I decided on a 5 mile Mica and Spud Rock loop. Great views on Spud rock as always and very windy as always! Mica is just the high point but nothing special there. After break on Spud Rock we headed back to camp and another realxing night!

Next day it was back out Turkey Creek...however we took the long way past Devils (not) Bathtub and through a really cool Ponderosa Park forest back to the original trail. After that it was down Turkey Creek to the vehicles. Another great Memorial Day trip in the sky islands!!
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I wanted to try something new in the vicinity of my daughter's home near Vail. I had initially planned on a shorter hike, but with cool temps and time I decided to hike up to Cow Head saddle and back.
35 degrees at 0530 at the trailhead was a bit shocking. The Douglas Spring trail is in excellent condition. It has a couple thousand rock steps which you don't notice too much ascending. Descending they make it hard to keep a good flow hiking though.
The scenery along the way is nice. I passed a few hikers on the way up and a lot on the last few miles finishing up. Good times. :)
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Beautiful overcast day with rain in the mountains, cool temperatures and utterly pleasant conditions… how can I not hike? Especially looking at the extended forecast with a run at 100 within a week?

Quite a few others had the same idea, though I had Carrillo above Wildhorse and Three Tanks to myself.

Garwood dam and the drainage above it were bone dry, as was Wildhorse Tank.
 
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Short hike with wifey.
 
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Douglas Springs/Cowhead/Tanque Verde, AZ 
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Working on the Rincon trails in SNP. Put together a huge loop. Highlight is the Tanque Verde ridge trail between Cow Head Saddle and TV Peak. WOW - sensational views.

Felt really good and had perfect weather for a big day in the Rincons
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Late afternoon hike with wifey, who wanted to top off her step count.
 
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Lovely day for a hike!

Saw two deer on Garwood. They were kind enough to pose for pictures.

Saw three horses on Three Tanks, accompanied by their humans.

Mighty dry out there. One bush was in full bloom though, as well as one random ocotillo.

Per usual, DS was busy.
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Finally, a cool day of jacket weather! On a Saturday! Wifey and I hiked the first 1.5 of Douglas Spring. She couldn't go further because her foot is still recovering from bunion surgery.

We saw one deer and two roadrunners, one of whom was a bit on the portly side.
 
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Steven and I backpacked into the Rincons. The plan was to take Douglas Spring Trail all the way to Grass Shack and spend the night there, then hike up to Manning Camp and explore the high country a bit before heading back down to Douglas Spring Campground, then hike out the following morning. It would have been nice to stay at Manning Camp the second night, but the campsites were all reserved and I needed to be back in Tucson, showered, by noon.

Friday morning at 8 we started at DS trailhead. Even then it was quite warm, making it a bit of a sweat-fest to DS Campground. I'd only filled my 3/4 liter water bottle to keep the water carry down. There was quite a bit of water below Tina Larga so I tanked up there, had lunch at DS campground and got more water, then proceeded to Cow Head Saddle. Neither of us had been on DS trail past Cow Head before, so that was new. It was much more lush than I expected.

We made it to Grass Shack mid-afternoon, and had the entire campground to ourselves. There was plenty of water in the creek, and it is a truly remarkable place to camp in the backcountry. I mean, there are bear boxes and a bathroom, miles from the nearest road. Since Grass Shack is on the AZT, it gets a lot of use (or at least the bathroom does). There was a bit of a Matterhorn effect in the WC, leading us to wonder how on earth the Park service cleans out the pit. Do they airlift a pump truck? Should you visit, BYOTP.

At dinnertime, it was apparent that neither of us had planned our meals particularly well and we were going to be short on calories, particularly Steven.

Speaking of calories, I saw two deer and a whole bunch of bunnies around Grass Shack. Last year we attempted this itinerary, but at the time the Park service had closed the campground due to mountain lion activity. I can see why big kitties might be active in the area.

Saturday morning was cool, cloudy, and breezy. The cloud decks were below the peaks, and we hoped to make it to elevation before they burned off. We broke camp a bit after 7 and made it to Manning just after 10, so we made decent time but it wasn't fast enough to catch the clouds before they lifted.

Manning was definitely being used, as there were about a half dozen official-looking tents pitched around, and the cabin was open with lots of equipment set up. Nobody seemed to be around except a couple backpackers who left about the same time we arrived.

The falls and pool near Manning were going strong; seeing the falls cutting through the rock and cascading into a series of giant pools was pretty cool.

After scarfing a few bars and snack items we proceeded to Spud Rock. It's a pretty sweet view up there, one of the best in Southern Arizona IMHO. Spud was super windy though, so we didn't stay too long.

Since Steven didn't have enough food for the trip, he decided to hike all the way out instead of camping at Douglas Spring. It had been warm overnight at Grass Shack, and both of us figured it would be even warmer at DS. I figured I'd be pretty tired and would probably camp, but as we descended I started thinking about how nice a hot shower and a regular bed would be over sweating in a tent all night. Though my feet lodged a formal protest against the notion, when I reached DS campground just before 3pm I determined I could rest for 30 minutes and make it back to the car by 7. So I filtered water, ate whatever I had left that didn't require cooking (except a couple bars), and took my shoes off. Steven left before I did, so I hiked out solo. I briefly considered camping again, but then what's another 6-1/2 miles, anyway? And a 20-mile day would be kinda impressive.

About halfway I met a snake on the trail. A little stripey guy with no rattle, perhaps two feet long at most. It refused to move. I tapped my trekking poles near it to see if I could gently encourage it to leave the trail, and no response. Finally I stepped over it, and all it did was stick its tongue out at me. Cheeky fella.

Sure enough, I made it to the parking lot by 7pm, in time for sunset. It was a long day.
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Lots of flowers below Cow Head Saddle. Carpets of little yellow flowers interspersed with purple and green seed heads of grasses. Manzanita are blooming profusely. Quite a few Sego Lilies, and the cactus are starting in on it too.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Beautiful cascading waterfalls into a huge pool.
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Apr 21 2024
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Douglas Garwood Converse lollipop, AZ 
Douglas Garwood Converse lollipop, AZ
 
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Hiking1.90 Miles 112 AEG
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Night hike with wifey. Beautiful evening for it, too, with a full moon.

On Douglas, coming out of the wash, we encountered our first rattler of the season. It was concealed in shrubbery off the trail, but didn’t hesitate to make its presence known. It was a grumpy snake and, unlike most, refused to yield and just kept rattling each time we attempted to pass. We did get around but it definitely lodged its grievances as we did so.
 
Apr 01 2024
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Wildhorse Tank via Garwood Dam, AZ 
Wildhorse Tank via Garwood Dam, AZ
 
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Hiking5.82 Miles 739 AEG
Hiking5.82 Miles   2 Hrs   59 Mns   2.21 mph
739 ft AEG      21 Mns Break
 
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Delightful rainy day hike with wifey. Virtually no one on the trails since it was rainy. Pretty sloppy trails down low, but much easier going past Converse or so.

Great flow through Garwood Dam and down Wildhorse canyon. We unexpectedly found it quite possible to rock hop across the flow and make it all the way to the end of Wildhorse trail.
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
 
Mar 29 2024
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Steel tank out & back, AZ 
Steel tank out & back, AZ
 
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Hiking4.56 Miles 694 AEG
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Morning hike with wifey. We wanted to go to Wildhorse Tank but got detoured to Steel Tank. There were Africanized bees that built a hive on upper Wildhorse. We didn’t have enough time to continue past Steel Tank, so we went back the way we came.

Pretty good wildflowers all the way. We had been to Picacho Peak recently but this route beats Picacho hands down.
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Picacho has nothin’ on the Rincons.
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Feb 26 2024
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Garwood Carrillo Wildhorse lollipop, AZ 
Garwood Carrillo Wildhorse lollipop, AZ
 
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Quick hike to take advantage of a few hours free and nice weather: clouds and sprinkles.

A lot less water than last time, earlier this month. Wildhorse was still flowing nicely though.

It’s pretty green out there. The wildflower show should start soon and it’s looking to be a good one. So far just three open poppies I saw.
 
Feb 09 2024
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Garwood Carrillo Wildhorse lollipop, AZ 
Garwood Carrillo Wildhorse lollipop, AZ
 
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Water everywhere! Surprisingly few hikers after the first mile. Had Wildhorse Tank and Garwood Dam to myself.

Spotted three deer on the way back, between the Converse and Stock Bypass junctions. They were completely unconcerned about the crowd of spectators that formed as they munched away.
 
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Bridal Wreath Loop, AZ 
Bridal Wreath Loop, AZ
 
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Hiking7.70 Miles 1,526 AEG
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Great hike, good weather and plenty of water. There were so many waterfalls on all of the trails we were on. It was spectacular!
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Bridal Wreath Loop, AZ 
Bridal Wreath Loop, AZ
 
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Bridal Wreath Falls redo. Arrived at Douglas Spring Trail head to an overflowing parking area and had to park at the Wildhorse Trail parking area. Worked out good since we would finish on that trail. Lots of people on the Douglas Spring Trail, about half heading to Bridal Wreath Falls. Good day to visit the falls, more water than I have ever seen before. There is a lower and upper falls, I usually only go to the lower and assumed this was the falls referred to as Bridal wreath but with the high flow the upper falls is probably what the falls are named for. We returned via the Three Tanks and Wildhorse Trails. Very few people on these.

Water everywhere, good flow in creeks along the Douglas, Bridal Wreath and Ernie Falls creek and the Three Tanks Creek. No issues crossing any of them. The three tanks along the trail, Aguila, mica and steel tank are dry and have been for years but the creek is running good. The earthen dam at the Aguila and Mica have been breached so they are not really tanks anymore. Steel tank or Goldfish tank wouldn't hold water due to holes. Temperatures were in the low 50's with intermittent sun, perfect day for hiking.

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Breached no longer a tank. Creek is running though

dry Mica Tank Dry Dry
Breached no longer a tank. Creek is running though

dry Steel Tank Dry Dry
tank no long has water in it. Creek is running though
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Jan 05 2024
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Douglas Spring Trail to Douglas Spring CGTucson, AZ
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Hiking13.40 Miles 2,433 AEG
Hiking13.40 Miles   6 Hrs   59 Mns   2.73 mph
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I’d been wanting to visit Douglas Spring campground for a while and the stars finally aligned. It was a beautiful day just after rain and high elevation snow.

After about mile 5 there was water in all the drainages.

There was the usual hiker parade to and from the falls. After that I met a supply train coming down from up top, and one hiker near the campground. I had the campground to myself for the duration, had a hot lunch, and enjoyed the view of snow-capped Rincons.

I timed the return with sunset, which seems to be my hiking habit lately. The payoff was pretty good.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Can’t speak for the spring, but there are plenty of large, clear, trickling pools in the creek.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout The tank is defunct but there are trickling pools both up and down stream.
 
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