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Nov 29 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
Powers Cabin & MineTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
Backpack36.00 Miles 9,000 AEG
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1st trip
Put together a plan for two nights in the Galiuros, and found a few friends willing to subject themselves to it. Original plan was roughly a night at Powers Garden, a night at Holdout Spring (with a detour to Powers Cabin), then back via East Divide.

Friday

Got to Deer Creek TH at around 10:30am, and started with a slight diversion to the Deer Creek administration site. It was meh. Took Tortilla Trail out so a to get to the Garden with some daylight left. Trail was more enjoyable than expected, it's basically a highway. Horse Canyon was pretty. Reached the cabin by around 3pm, set up camp and had a nice campfire.

Saturday

Some in the group were concerned about whether there would be water at the spring, given the lack of recent reports. I felt very confident there would be, based on how much there was at the garden, but so as to keep everybody happy I acceded to the proposal to day hike to Powers Cabin and spend a second night where we were. I did like the idea of not having to break down and set up and extra time...

So off we went at a leisure pace, stopping when we found something interesting. Like the cabin just north of the Rattlenake Spring area, which I didn't know any. Tom mentioned stopping by someone's cabin on the way to the mine, I'm wondering if this was what he was talking about.

At the Rattlesnake junction, we found a pack sitting there, so it would seem we weren't the only ones out there. Ran into the owner shortly thereafter. The mine and cabin were interesting, but definitely not as pleasant a location as the garden.

Considered a day trip to Holdout Spring (other group confirmed there was indeed water), but would've been pushing daylight at that point. Got back and enjoyed another nice campfire.

Sunday

Learned on Sunday morning that I had, in fact, brought more whisky than necessary. But after getting some electrolytes in my belly, recovered well. Decided we would prefer to take a different way back, so we decided to try Sycamore.

The lower part of Powers Garden trail was very worthwhile, and Rattlesnake Creek started flowing a little about Pipestem, and by the Sycamore junction it was a real creek with water. Sycamore trail was rough, and the catclaw was vicious on some of the south facing slopes. Pretty much lost the trail after the spring, and eventually wound up just following the creek bed. Very slow going, over half the entire time getting back to the car was spent in Sycamore Canyon.

Couldn't find where the trail exits the canyon, so I ended up scrambling up to where it contours along a bench. Nothing like a little class 3 scramble with a full pack in the middle of nowhere! The track was faint up to the ridge, but there were occasional cairns.

Once over the ridge, the trail got much easier, and we made good time to the car. Got there just in time to enjoy a cold beer and a nice sunset.

Really enjoyed this outing. Kinda wish we had stuck to the plan, but as long as it doesn't burn down, there will be more opportunities...
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 Gilbert, AZ
Powers GardenTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Long, dark drive from San Tan Valley. Was pleasantly surprised to see that FR253 was recently graded, that plus a dry Aravaipa made it very easy to reach TH.

East Divide #287
Easy walking up the grassy lowlands with a few cairns to keep you moving forward. Everything looks toasted, even with the recent snows/rains. Passed what felt like a half-dozen signed junctions before reaching Mud Springs, bit of a maze to figure out at the start. Noticed something weird here that several of the other trails had - two treads that were not-quite-parallel, sometimes collapsing to a single track and other times devolving into game trails. Unsure if this is due to chatty cowbows or meandering livestock. Regardless, it had me backtracking many times throughout the weekend.

Sycamore Creek #278
Picked this up at Mud Springs, took a bit of wandering to find where it started. Recent maintenance and a few re-routes were appreciated. Once I reached the saddle by China Peak the trail plummeted down over steep switchbacks, and while the cairns were huge, the re-routed tread is hard to track. Once the trail hits the creek it does a very good job at sticking to the banks and cleaning hopping from one side to the other. There is some minor deadfall and overgrowth to navigate, and I chose to boulder-hop a few times, overall it was pretty fun.

Bumped into a large group of teenagers w/ chaperones who were hiking from Rattlesnake Canyon to Redfield over two weeks. Chatted for ten minutes, could have spent all day sharing stories, but we were heading in different directions and each had many miles to cover before nightfall. That was shortly before Sycamore Canyon Spring, and I spent much of the rest of the trail following tread high up the banks and trying to imagine how I'd fit two weeks worth of food in my tiny pack.

Powers Garden #96
Rattlesnake Creek was flowing happily, a nice change from the stagnant pools in Sycamore, which gave me (temporary) hope for water sources. Also, this trail was annoyingly well-maintained, recently trimmed back neatly and a small army of bootprints pounded into the tread. As there was no one at Powers Garden, my guess is that a crew had walked in from Rattlesnake Road and done some work on the trail or at the Garden, and then hiked out on Friday.

This was a very enjoyable section, with the big trees and views on each side. I passed Pipestem (signed), Mailbox (unsigned), and Tortilla (signed) junctions, and somewhere along the way my happy little creek completely dried up. Camping in the middle of a field of dead grass with a single liter of water didn't sound like fun, so I bailed my original plan (set up camp here and go hunting for the Mailbox spur) and decided to push forward instead. The rest of the trail to Corral Canyon seemed to drag, mostly because I kept veering into Rattlesnake Creek in hopes of finding a crystal-clear pool of water.

Corral Canyon #291
Bit more deadfall and overgrowth, and the creek crossings can be confusing, yet the tread is solid and was much better than expected. Followed it for a mile and found some trickling water, pulled to full capacity and backtracked a half-mile to a nice campsite.

Took my time setting up camp and getting some firewood for the night. I was expecting a cold night and wanted to glamp, even brought a little chair along. Managed to stay up until 8 before crashing, and then slept in the next morning. New sleeping pad was a real winner, probably got down to high 30s and kept warm. Woke up feeling wonderfully refreshed.

Tracking the creek crossings got a bit more difficult, and I did spend some time boulder-hopping. The one crossing that is truly important is right at Corral Spring, where (if you're heading uphill) you leave the south bank, backtrack downstream to the spring about twenty feet, and then head up the north bank. If you miss this, you'll end up at the bottom of a very formidable waterfall. Going up the north bank is a set of steep switchbacks with a few re-routes due to deadfall, which is something that you need to repeat near the end of the trail.

The final leg of the trail is on the top of a ridgeline, and this is where the burn comes in full. There's good tread, and a few cairns, and enough deadfall to turn the whole thing into a maze. Two nice campsites and a small stand of surviving pines wait at the end of the trail.

Kennedy Peak #287A
Short jaunt south on East Divide and a humble sign point to the peak, which is another maze of deadfall. There are plenty of cairns, though sections of the tread have been washed out. I lost the trail on both the hike up and down. Anyways, views on top were totally worth it - after spending yesterday on the grassy north side and in deep canyons, seeing the expansiveness of the wilderness was a moving moment.

East Divide #287
Return to the junction and then heading down over the million switchbacks. Snow was a minor issue, a few stretches where the narrow tread was covered in slick iciness that promised an quickened descent. Eventually the snow obstacles were replaced with deadfall, and then overgrowth kicked in. I didn't care too much - I was heading downhill and the trailhead felt within reach.

As soon as the junction to Mud Springs shows up the trail veers back onto grassy flatlands and makes a sizeable re-route to the south to avoid the deep tributaries of Oak Creek. At least, it was a re-route according to the route I had. Eventually the track swung north, joined with my route from yesterday, and I rolled back down to the trailhead.

dry Brush Canyon Dry Dry
Dry at mouth.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Corral Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Dry at mouth. Trickling pools start to intermittently show up after 1 mile upstream.

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Water directly below the cement box.

dry Horse Canyon Dry Dry
Dry at mouth.

dry Mailbox Canyon Dry Dry
Dry at mouth.

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Spring box was full, trough was overflowing, downhill tank & trough were full. Cow corpse is still there fouling up trough overflow, but trough still seems clean enough.

dry Pipestem Canyon Dry Dry
Dry at mouth.

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Two large, algae-clogged pools. Totally unappealing. Rattlesnake Creek was completely dry from Corral Creek to Pipestem, this spring did nothing to help that.

dry South Field Canyon Dry Dry
Dry at mouth.

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Several appealing pools trickling, plenty to pull from.

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Handful of sad pools, mostly between spring & mouth.
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Nov 25 2018
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Sycamore Trail #278Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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First time in the Galiuros!

Sycamore canyon appears to be a trail the forest service no longer cares about as once you drop off the mesa it is pretty badly overgrown. Still I was able to find most of it, including a corral not shown on the map at the last crossing of Sycamore Canyon.

The Powers Garden Trail is in good shape other than one or two spots.

Visited Mailbox canyon where I slipped on some granite/moss and cracked my GPS. Wandered a little further up Mailbox following the trail, but after perhaps a mile I wasn't feeling it being any special and turned around, as I also wanted to give myself enough time to explore the ranch area of Powers Garden. It is reminiscent of the Tony Ranch in the Superstitions with the exception that the main building is still being fairly well maintained.

Nights were cold and a bit below freezing since the entire area is a cold sink for the air between East and West Divides.

Last day I took the Tortilla trail out, which is in pretty good shapre with just a little bushwhacking but more noticeable erosion problems in several areas.
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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Horse Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Dry at Rattlesnake but small pools as you ascend, probably from recent rains.

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Dry at Rattlesnake but a little surface water in pools, probably from recent rains

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Hard to tell the flow amount, the area has been destroyed by cows.

dry Pipestem Canyon Dry Dry
Dry at the intersection with Rattlesnake

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Powers Garden Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
The entire creek was flowing well at this point, so impossible to know how much the spring itself is pumping out.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Rattlesnake Canyon Medium flow Medium flow
Water was intermittent, alternating between good surface flow and underground flow. It was roaring pretty well at maybe 600 gpm at the intersection with Sycamore canyon

dry South Field Canyon Dry Dry
dry at intersection with Rattlesnake

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Sycamore Canyon Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
I'd estimate a quart per minute, light trickle coming from the small natural rock pool.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Sycamore Creek Medium flow Medium flow
Dry where you drop in. Surface water is random but by the end it is flowing 200 gpm.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Upper Sycamore Tank 1-25% full 1-25% full
The giant swimming pool had a little bit of water in it but the plumbing is hosed up and the tanks are dry.
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Nov 03 2018
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41 female
 Joined Sep 25 2011
 Tucson, AZ
Sycamore Trail #278Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Short version: Sycamore Canyon Trail between Lower Sycamore Spring and ??? is very overgrown and hard to impossible to find.

Long version:
Working for the Forest Service and Sky Island Alliance, we backpacked into Sonora Basin (the drainage between Rattlesnake and Sycamore) to validate water rights at an old dam/spring. We had permission to come in through Power's Hill, so we parked on Rattlesnake Mesa, and hiked in the last 3 miles of the road. We headed down Power's Hill, and turned off onto the Sycamore Trail about halfway down, at the sign (which is fallen over). Like last fall, there is a fair bit of catclaw mimosa to deal with on this trail. Rattlesnake Creek was running well. The trail is pretty easy to follow and decently cairned until Sycamore Canyon Spring (really, Lower Sycamore Spring). A fair bit of catclaw between Power's Hill and the Rattlesnake Creek crossing, but manageable. We camped up on the top of the hill (man, that's a steep hill!) between Rattlesnake and Sycamore - a sweet little spot for a few tents, with great views. The next day, we headed up Sycamore Canyon. The trail was mostly easy to find to the spring. Once you cross Sycamore Creek, go about 15' downstream, up on the other bank, and through the corral. Then climb the hill and continue up canyon. It's easy to lose the trail on the final approach to the spring, but by then you can see where you're aiming for anyway. After that, the trail is really hard to find. We alternated between following it, and shoving through catclaw in the general vicinity of where the trail should be. Lots more catclaw, one several minute stretch where I really wasn't on the trail, and I managed to lose the trail on the way back and came in too far below the spring. Anyhow, we only went about 3/4 mile past (south of) the spring. Once we came back down to the creek, we just went right up it until we reached a side drainage on the west side, where we bushwhacked up to a saddle that drops you into Sonora Basin. This was surprisingly easy. Headed down into the basin, found the dam, which must be fed by a nearly-perennial spring or groundwater. Beautiful pools below it, ash, dock, sedges, deergrass. Then back to camp. As you near the top of the hill to drop back into Sycamore Creek at the corral, it's so easy to keep going on a game trail. I've done this hike twice now, and missed the turn both times. Anyhow, we found our way back the right way eventually. Backpacked back out the next day (missed a fork near Power's Hill and came out a little below the trail sign), only had to hike up half the Hill (yay!), then back down the road, with another exciting bushwhack detour with full packs over to Grapevine Spring. What a pretty spot.
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Ash in full swing.
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Turpentine bush was all pretty yellow.

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This is upstream, at the Dam marked on the topo. The dam is filled with sediment, but there were large pools below it.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Sycamore Canyon Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Really running strong. Couldn't climb the first small waterfall to get to the main hanging garden, cause it was too wet.

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This was the first day of our Galiuro trip. After the 4 hour drive we intended to go up Kennedy Peak but we missed the turn and ended up taking Tortilla trail up and then an old alignment of the trail to near "Topout Divide". It's interesting to explore the various old routes and new re-routes of trails. Saw a tarantula.
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