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Flatlander Trail - Hedgpeth Hills - 3 members in 18 triplogs have rated this an average 1.7 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Apr 04 2023
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Thunderbird Conservation ParkPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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ScaredyCatTriplogs 204
Hiking10.20 Miles 1,560 AEG
Hiking10.20 Miles   4 Hrs   38 Mns   2.34 mph
1,560 ft AEG      16 Mns Break
 
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Wow, I had the day off and it appears to be the coolest temps we can expect for months. Time to hit the trails. The downfall is I don't know anyone who is available to hike on a Tuesday.

So i sought out a spot of interest fairly close to home. Traversed the entire perimeter of the park today. This was broken down into 3 loops. Back side of Cholla Loop was pry the highlight.

The problem is, much of this outing was either next to road traffic or new home developments. The number of peeps there was acceptable but I wouldn't go near this spot on a weekend.
 
Dec 10 2022
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 Phoenix,Az
Flatlander Trail - Hedgpeth HillsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Hiking4.16 Miles 27 AEG
Hiking4.16 Miles   1 Hour   21 Mns   3.08 mph
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Morning hike out at Thunderbird Park. Started from the 59th Ave. lot (just before the bridge) and did a lasso involving Coachwhip, Arrowhead, and Flatlander. Used the bridge in the formation of the lasso and did the loop in a CCW direction. Trails haven’t changed much. Still poorly layed out/named, but easy to follow. With the exception of the Flatlander, very rocky. A biker would do this once and never again. The Flatlander is getting a little faded and threaded on the south east end. But it is in small patches and there is sparse vegetation so it is easy to navigate. Flatlander is a fairly ugly trail. Not much reason to do it more than once unless you like the duality with Arrowhead. (Flatlander - flat, Arrowhead - elevation). First hike since the Canyon.
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Jan 16 2022
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 Phoenix, AZ
Thunderbird Parks East and West, AZ 
Thunderbird Parks East and West, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 16 2022
tibberTriplogs 1,570
Hiking8.54 Miles 1,374 AEG
Hiking8.54 Miles   3 Hrs   3 Mns   2.86 mph
1,374 ft AEG      4 Mns Break
 
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I don't know how I got this report so long, sorry. Continuing to finish off some Areas on the HAZ list... I realized on the drive today that I have SEVEN Preserves or Parks within 20 minutes of my house, almost 9 if you go up to thirty minutes. That's pretty awesome for living in a big city.

The temps would be pleasant this afternoon for my route that would hook up the 4 trails that were on the "to-do" list to complete the Thunderbird Conservation Park area. One of the trails was the splinter trail at the top of Thunderbird Conservation Peak, two would be near Sunrise Peak on the west side and the last one would be at the base of the Arrowhead Point hike.


I decided to park at the W. Pinnacle Peak Rd and 55th Ave and started the hike on the Cholla Loop Trail counterclockwise. All of these trails are a bit rocky and in addition, they have laid a lot of rocks to control the erosion; rolly poly rocks. I much prefer the rocks on the other preserves I hike. The grade, however, is pleasant as you slowly make your way toward the top. I would encounter a few more hikers than I thought I would for Sunday afternoon. Not too far from the top is the splinter trail. I really didn't even know it was there except for the HAZ areas trail list.

The H-3a Trail diverts you east on a ridgeline until you can't go any further. The views were clear, I could see all the way to the Mazzies and Superstitions as well so I got the camera out to do some zooming. I then headed west to Thunderbird Conservation Park Peak, still a nice but rocky grade. Views seemed clear to the west and now it was time to hike this very long ridgeline trail that comes in and out of view, thus it's much longer than it appears. I continued to encounter hikers of all varieties. (I think coming up from the west is harder.) They have laid a bunch of new rock on the part of the trail that goes down the west side and on several more parts of the Cholla Loop Trail.

At the middle parking section between the east and west side of Thunderbird Park, I should have swung to the south and west but I headed just west below the amphitheatre and picked up the Sunrise Trail H-4a from there. Lots of people of all shapes and sizes and ages along with two novice bike riders were on this short stretch. At the saddle I opted to take the trail north around the water tank and then west to hook up with the Coachwhip Trail.

The Coachwhip semi-circles Sunrise Peak. I used it as a connector trail and hiked it south and then east. It's very nice, wide and smooth going in this area so I could pick up my speed a little. As you head east, in about a third of a mile you reach the junction with the Ridgeline Trail H-4b that takes you up to a "ridgeline". It too, has some fresh rock on it to negotiate. It does afford some nice views though. You hike the ridgeline east until you meet up with the junction of the Sunrise Trail. I hadn't planned on doing the Peak but since I was so close, and this time I had time, I headed on up.

This part of the Sunrise Trail to the peak is pretty busy too with hikers of all sizes, shapes and ages. The peak also has nice views and it was a good day for it. I didn't stay long but to take a couple pictures. From here it was back down and to the east side of the Park. This time I stayed above the amphitheatre and hooked back up with the junction of Coachwhip Loop (which starts at the far west parking lot and stays on the southside and crosses over). Essentially you just walk down the old road to the gate and then try to figure out where the Coachwhip Trail is again. You kind of stay to the south of the picnic area and then you'll see the rock-lined trail.

I continued east on the Coachwhip Trail next to and above Pinnacle Peak Road which is so NOISY. After crossing Pinnacle Peak Road I contined on the Coachwhip Trail until the junction with the Flatlander Trail (H-1a), gotta love that name. It takes you about 1/2 mile to the edge of the 500 Club with nice scenery looking up the side of this mountain covered with basalt.

As I made the turn I spotted some hot air balloons so I had to grab a few pictures. As I got further to the east I could see some burned trees so there must have been a fire through here at one time (July 2020). It was stark contrast with the greenery of the 500 Club. As I headed back west, I could see the hot air balloons again above the Arizona Temple; a pretty sight.

If you like to see people for most of your hike, Thunderbird Conservation Par is the area for that. I do hope these people get a chance to hike some of the nicer tread trails of the valley. I saw so many little ones and dogs too. I enjoyed my Huck Lager before heading home.

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WATCH: 8.07 miles (high point 1880, low 1368) avg bpm 136, max 162 (19% Zone 4, 35% Zone 3, 44% Zone 2) burning 1299 calories. Starting temp 71.5 and 13% humid (altho it seemed more humid than that) finishing at 4:53PM.
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Dec 26 2021
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 Phoenix, AZ
Thunderbird Conservation ParkPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Dec 26 2021
rcorfmanTriplogs 1,867
Hiking9.17 Miles 1,699 AEG
Hiking9.17 Miles   3 Hrs   32 Mns   2.79 mph
1,699 ft AEG      15 Mns Break
 
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It's been awhile since I've hiked in Thunderbird Park but there was five geocaches in it I had yet to find so I found myself parked off of Pinnacle Peak road at the park.

I started off heading across the flats to the Flatlander trail heading east skirting the hills. As I neared the golf course, I veered north up the edge of the hill to find the first geocache. From there, I headed SW down to the flats then across and up a saddle to the second geocache. That was all off trail, a nice walk through creosote along the flat then an easy climb up to the saddle.

The third geocache was along the Arrowhead Point trail, so from the saddle, I went NW up the hill to the trail. I ended up finding an old abandoned trail on the ascent. That made the climb much simpler as I didn't have to worry near as much about the cholla. I'd follow the trail, lose it, then end up back on it again a bit later. It wasn't a simple social trail, real work had been put into clearing the rocks and such. I wonder how long ago it was made, then abandoned?

Once on the Arrowhead Point trail, my offtrail travel for the day ended and so did any solitude I was having in the park. I found the geocache along the Arrowhead Point trail, then descended down to the Coach Whip trail where I took the bridge across the road and into the main park proper where I found the fourth geocache. I used the facilities, then continued west along the Coach Whip trail to the west end of the park where I found the fifth geocache on the Sunrise trail. I took the Sunrise trail up to the top where I was mixed in with lots of women wearing yoga pants, then back down to the main park area where I got on the Cholla Loop, back to the Coach Whip trail, over the bridge, and back to my truck.
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Jun 16 2021
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 Phoenix,Az
Flatlander Trail - Hedgpeth HillsPhoenix, AZ
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Hiking4.19 Miles 27 AEG
Hiking4.19 Miles   1 Hour   3 Mns   3.99 mph
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Short after work hike. Got on the trail around 3:30 starting from the 59 Th Ave parking lot. Did a loop that took me over the bridge, up Arrowhead and then CCW on the Flatlander. There was never much positive to say about the Flatlander. There use to be some palo verde trees that bordered the eastern edge of the loop, paralleling the golf course. Looks like a recent fire took out the trees in the area….golf course was saved :? , making a blah trail even more so. Actually met 3 hikers going up Arrowhead from the east side. Temps were toasty…114, but there was a nice breeze from the west which makes a huge difference for me. When doing the loop I tried not to breathe deeply…air quality better than it has been, but still rough because of the fires to the east.
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Feb 25 2020
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Flatlander Trail - Hedgpeth HillsPhoenix, AZ
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Hiking1.10 Miles 27 AEG
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Short after work jog. Did a figure 8 involving Arrowhead and the Flatlander. Great temps though a bit breezy. Trails were busy, even encountered a few people on the Flatlander which is very unusual. No wildlife
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Oct 13 2019
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 Mesa, AZ
Thunderbird Conservation ParkPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 13 2019
DarthStillerTriplogs 856
Hiking8.50 Miles 1,257 AEG
Hiking8.50 Miles   3 Hrs   55 Mns   2.17 mph
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I hadn't been out to this area in well over 14 years or more, so it seemed like a good time to go back. Hiking these trails was like doing them for the first time again, I can barely remember them from before. I hiked the one spur at the top of the east hill that isn't on the map. Saw a fire off to the east a bit which made a lot of smoke that hung in the air and drifted through the valley. It was interesting to see the surrounding mountains from a different perspective and try to pick them out.

I was intending to get a little more mileage in, but the rocky trails tended to slow me down some. I think I hiked uphill faster than I did on several level and downhill sections.
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May 28 2019
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Flatlander Trail - Hedgpeth HillsPhoenix, AZ
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Hiking4.00 Miles 27 AEG
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After work jog. Did a lasso involving Flarlander starting from the 59th Ave. (west side) TH. Took Coachwhip over to the bridge and then CCW first on Arrowhead and then Flatlander. Used the crosswalk to connect to the Chuckwalla on the way back. Weather was great again! Surprised at the number of people on Arrowhead compared to the other trails. Encountered 19 hikers, 1 trail runner on that stretch alone compared to 2 for the rest of the trails.
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May 26 2018
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Arrowhead Point H-2 - Cholla Loop H-3, AZ 
Arrowhead Point H-2 - Cholla Loop H-3, AZ
 
Hiking avatar May 26 2018
EsikesTriplogs 5
Hiking6.10 Miles 1,029 AEG
Hiking6.10 Miles   2 Hrs   40 Mns   2.29 mph
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Took off for a hike this morning, bright and early (4:30am), to catch the sunrise at Thunderbird Conversation Park. It's close so why not. Armed with my Nikon Camera, hoping to get some great pictures, and water I started up Arrowhead Point H-2 at 5:20. Right about the time the sun should have been breaking over the horizon. But no such luck. This is my first time hiking in over a year and the day I decide to go, it's overcast until after 7. Oh well. I didn't let that stop me.

Arrowhead trail is always a good hike. It's rocky, lots of loose rock, but it's not something that should deter your enjoyment of the hike. The first elevation is a great workout for the legs. Lots of high steps with sturdy rocks. The trail was clean, I didn't see a lot of trash like I have in the past. After about 15 minutes of continuous upward climb the trail levels out some, well a slight incline but after the leg workout it feels flat. I got some good pictures from this spot. The second elevation part comes up to the top of the mountain where the flag flies and you can rest. The view isn't spectacular, houses upon more houses, but it still nice to be on top. Many people stop here and return down the same trail. I continued down the backside where the trail becomes more rocky. Lots of loose rock. You can slip easily if you're not paying attention. This will take you to the pedestrian bridge that crosses over 59th ave and connects to Coach Whip. This will put you at right about 2 miles.

I took Coach Whip to Cholla Loop and started up the second mountain of the day. It was fairly steady on the west side and doesn't get to incline until the north side (about a mile in). Then the upward climb begins. The trail cuts back South and you begin to climb, but this is actually an easier climb than Arrowhead. I enjoyed this part and took many more pictures. From here you reach the top and another flag. It felt good to see it flying in the breeze on Memorial Weekend. Down this way was again rocky and there are many switchbacks. Next time I might start this way to come up those switchback to see if the gain is any different.

Cholla loop ends pretty much back at the parking lot and my app had told me I walked 4.8 miles. To finish up I decided to take a lap around the Flatlander Trail H-1a near the parking lot. It was very nice, soft and sandy. By the time I reach my car I was at 6.1 miles.

Overall a great hike, the overcast was nice, better then the heat, and there was a breeze the entire time. I had a great morning.
 
Mar 29 2018
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Flatlander Trail - Hedgpeth HillsPhoenix, AZ
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Run/Jog2.15 Miles 27 AEG
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Short, after jog. Extended the Flatlander a little bit by crossing at the stoplight and then taking the Zcoachwhip up to the bridge and then coming back down to connect to the Flatlander and completing the loop. This involved very little elevation gain, but added a mile to the loop. Nice to get back to back hikes in. Weather was nice snd the trails were crowded. Saw a few prairie dogs and some lizards.
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Thunderbird Loop, AZ 
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afrankieTriplogs 128
Hiking4.82 Miles 323 AEG
Hiking4.82 Miles   1 Hour   5 Mns   5.07 mph
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Out of town last weekend so first miles of the month on the trail for a jog/hike.....these morning's are finally cooling off :app:
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Jul 16 2015
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Run/Jog4.00 Miles 27 AEG
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Did a lasso starting from the west side of 59th ave. Took part of the Coachwhip to the bridge and then took the Arrowhead counterclockwise. Down the backside of Arrowhead and then right on the Flatlander. I made loop back to the Arrowhead juncture and then took the lower track back (Coachwhip) to the bridge and then back to the car. Pretty uneventful jog. No wildlife. Saw three pairs of hikers, but otherwise trails were empty. :M2C: For the record, these are the worst named/configured trails around. Almost every trail in the park lends itself to a natural loop and yet the Coachwhip weaves its way through all the other trails and mucks it all up. It makes doing a trip write up more complicated than it needs to be.
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Apr 20 2015
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 Peoria, AZ
Arrowhead Point Trail - ThunderbirdPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking4.20 Miles 775 AEG
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Started early today on the flatlander trail and a coyote whipped across the trail in front of me. Here I was looking for snakes and instead I get a surprise of a coyote! Headed to the Arrowhead Point trail (H-2) clockwise up the steps. Spent only a few minutes at the top by the flag and then headed downwards towards the pedestrian bridge. Instead of heading back to my car, I decided to take a left at the bridge and take the Coach Whip trail south around the mountain because I saw a sign about wildlife viewing blinds near the lake in Arrowhead Lakes from the trail. I was surprised at how much further it was to get there than what it looked like on a paper map and no GPS to tell me mileage. And, when I got to the viewing blinds area I was disappointed because it looks as though this area has been neglected and is not used very much. Actual side trails the viewing blind areas was hard to decipher and I was more concerned with being completely alone on this side of the mountain and trail and realizing this wasn't a looped trail. At first, I thought I would just take the trail down to the end point in the neighborhood and walk across 59th Ave. back to the park. But I was tired and the more I walked, the more it seemed I was getting even farther from 59th Ave. So I turned back around and hiked back up several switchbacks towards the pedestrian bridge. The good news is that it turned my typical 2 mile hike into a 4 mile + hike and a lot more switchbacks and climbs! According to runkeeper I burned 720 calories. So though I can't say I have a hankering to check out those viewing blinds again, it was a win for me anyway!
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Mar 28 2014
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Hiked/jogged this trail after work. Was really tired (sleepy tired) but once I got on the trail, the blood started pumping. Funny how that works. Did my "get back into shape" hike. Went counter clockwise. Started from the parking lot on west side of 59th. Crossed 59th via the bridge, then went up Arrowhead, which is fairly steep and then down the backside which is much more gradual and drawn out. From there, I made a right on the Flatlander and did a loop on it, bringing me back to the Arrowhead. Took the lower section of the Arrowhead back to the bridge and then back to the car. Weather was great, but surprisingly the trail was not crowded. Not much wildlife but I did run through a swarm of bees on the backside of the of the Arrowhead. I had several of the bees bounce off me but I made it through unscathed.
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Mar 18 2014
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
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Hiked/jogged this along with H4-Arrowhead trail in an effort to get back into hiking condition. Weather was ideal and the park was fairly crowded.
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Feb 04 2014
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Arrowhead Point Trail - ThunderbirdPhoenix, AZ
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StoicTriplogs 552
Hiking7.54 Miles 1,880 AEG
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Took the pups on a nice morning hike. I did everthing East of 59th ave, except two small conecting trails. Ill get those next trip. There where some flowers starting to bloom.
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Oct 26 2010
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Thunderbird Conservation ParkPhoenix, AZ
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking9.70 Miles 1,697 AEG
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67th Ave TH > H5a > H5 > H3 > H1a > H2 > H1 > H4a > H4 > H4b > H1

First time I've seen a unicyclist on a hiking trail!
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Cholla Loop Trail - ThunderbirdPhoenix, AZ
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mazatzalTriplogs 1,347
Hiking5.00 Miles 810 AEG
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This trip was before the Cholla trail existed but Coach Whip and Arrowhead were built. We went off trail up to 1686 and 1831 and then down to the road and up H2 and back down along H1 to the north end of the park where we started.
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