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H-3a - Thunderbird - 4 members in 8 triplogs have rated this an average 2.8 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Feb 26 2025
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69 male
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Thunderbird Loop, AZ 
Thunderbird Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 26 2025
The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking5.46 Miles 1,266 AEG
Hiking5.46 Miles   1 Hour   56 Mns   2.82 mph
1,266 ft AEG
 
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A jaunt out to the trails I cut my teeth on when I first moved to AZ. I used to walk to access these trails. Nice to start, warmish to finish.
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Mar 29 2023
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 Far NE Phoenix,
Tbird Triple, AZ 
Tbird Triple, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 29 2023
The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
Hiking8.96 Miles 1,540 AEG
Hiking8.96 Miles   2 Hrs   59 Mns   3.13 mph
1,540 ft AEG      7 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
 
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Continuing my revisit of the West Valley hikes I did when I lived in the West Valley. This was a go to area since I could walk to it. It's been 13 years since I've hiked here.

I started at the 67th Avenue TH, hiking a CCW loop hitting Peak 1682, 1862 and lastly 1831. The last 2 are my favorites, for the tread, flora and views.

The major flora players were brittlebush (they were going crazy), globemallow (Extreme in pockets) and the stinky globe chamomile. There were a smattering of other players in spots also.

The breeze that kicked up made for pleasant hiking weather.
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Wildflowers Observation Substantial
Mainly Brittlebush, Globemallow and Globe Chamomile
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Jan 16 2022
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69 female
 Joined Feb 26 2004
 Phoenix, AZ
Thunderbird Parks East and West, AZ 
Thunderbird Parks East and West, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jan 16 2022
tibberTriplogs 1,570
Hiking8.54 Miles 1,374 AEG
Hiking8.54 Miles   3 Hrs   3 Mns   2.86 mph
1,374 ft AEG      4 Mns Break
 
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I don't know how I got this report so long, sorry. Continuing to finish off some Areas on the HAZ list... I realized on the drive today that I have SEVEN Preserves or Parks within 20 minutes of my house, almost 9 if you go up to thirty minutes. That's pretty awesome for living in a big city.

The temps would be pleasant this afternoon for my route that would hook up the 4 trails that were on the "to-do" list to complete the Thunderbird Conservation Park area. One of the trails was the splinter trail at the top of Thunderbird Conservation Peak, two would be near Sunrise Peak on the west side and the last one would be at the base of the Arrowhead Point hike.


I decided to park at the W. Pinnacle Peak Rd and 55th Ave and started the hike on the Cholla Loop Trail counterclockwise. All of these trails are a bit rocky and in addition, they have laid a lot of rocks to control the erosion; rolly poly rocks. I much prefer the rocks on the other preserves I hike. The grade, however, is pleasant as you slowly make your way toward the top. I would encounter a few more hikers than I thought I would for Sunday afternoon. Not too far from the top is the splinter trail. I really didn't even know it was there except for the HAZ areas trail list.

The H-3a Trail diverts you east on a ridgeline until you can't go any further. The views were clear, I could see all the way to the Mazzies and Superstitions as well so I got the camera out to do some zooming. I then headed west to Thunderbird Conservation Park Peak, still a nice but rocky grade. Views seemed clear to the west and now it was time to hike this very long ridgeline trail that comes in and out of view, thus it's much longer than it appears. I continued to encounter hikers of all varieties. (I think coming up from the west is harder.) They have laid a bunch of new rock on the part of the trail that goes down the west side and on several more parts of the Cholla Loop Trail.

At the middle parking section between the east and west side of Thunderbird Park, I should have swung to the south and west but I headed just west below the amphitheatre and picked up the Sunrise Trail H-4a from there. Lots of people of all shapes and sizes and ages along with two novice bike riders were on this short stretch. At the saddle I opted to take the trail north around the water tank and then west to hook up with the Coachwhip Trail.

The Coachwhip semi-circles Sunrise Peak. I used it as a connector trail and hiked it south and then east. It's very nice, wide and smooth going in this area so I could pick up my speed a little. As you head east, in about a third of a mile you reach the junction with the Ridgeline Trail H-4b that takes you up to a "ridgeline". It too, has some fresh rock on it to negotiate. It does afford some nice views though. You hike the ridgeline east until you meet up with the junction of the Sunrise Trail. I hadn't planned on doing the Peak but since I was so close, and this time I had time, I headed on up.

This part of the Sunrise Trail to the peak is pretty busy too with hikers of all sizes, shapes and ages. The peak also has nice views and it was a good day for it. I didn't stay long but to take a couple pictures. From here it was back down and to the east side of the Park. This time I stayed above the amphitheatre and hooked back up with the junction of Coachwhip Loop (which starts at the far west parking lot and stays on the southside and crosses over). Essentially you just walk down the old road to the gate and then try to figure out where the Coachwhip Trail is again. You kind of stay to the south of the picnic area and then you'll see the rock-lined trail.

I continued east on the Coachwhip Trail next to and above Pinnacle Peak Road which is so NOISY. After crossing Pinnacle Peak Road I contined on the Coachwhip Trail until the junction with the Flatlander Trail (H-1a), gotta love that name. It takes you about 1/2 mile to the edge of the 500 Club with nice scenery looking up the side of this mountain covered with basalt.

As I made the turn I spotted some hot air balloons so I had to grab a few pictures. As I got further to the east I could see some burned trees so there must have been a fire through here at one time (July 2020). It was stark contrast with the greenery of the 500 Club. As I headed back west, I could see the hot air balloons again above the Arizona Temple; a pretty sight.

If you like to see people for most of your hike, Thunderbird Conservation Par is the area for that. I do hope these people get a chance to hike some of the nicer tread trails of the valley. I saw so many little ones and dogs too. I enjoyed my Huck Lager before heading home.

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WATCH: 8.07 miles (high point 1880, low 1368) avg bpm 136, max 162 (19% Zone 4, 35% Zone 3, 44% Zone 2) burning 1299 calories. Starting temp 71.5 and 13% humid (altho it seemed more humid than that) finishing at 4:53PM.
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Mar 23 2021
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 Joined Oct 24 2010
 Phoenix,Az
H-3a - ThunderbirdPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Run/Jog avatar Mar 23 2021
mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Run/Jog3.98 Miles 64 AEG
Run/Jog3.98 Miles      56 Mns   4.26 mph
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After work jog. Did a clockwise loop with one of my “go to” trails (Cholla). Not a fun trail to run....very rocky. But the elevation change is nice and the distance is good if you are pressed for time. Threw on the H-3a for a little more distance. This is an in and out mid way through the loop. (This would be an expected place where a user trail would develop, but Thunderbird Park has very few unofficial trails. Hope I don’t jinx that. Personally don’t mind user trails, but they do have a tendency to spider web over time). Weather couldn’t have been nicer. Cool temps, clouds and a nice breeze.
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Jul 13 2020
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Run/Jog3.90 Miles 64 AEG
Run/Jog3.90 Miles      57 Mns   4.11 mph
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After work jog. Simple, clockwise loop involving Cholla and Coachwhip. Did an in and out on the H-3 tail. Encountered 5 other hikers, while doing the loop. No wildlife. It was suppose to be 109 out, but it wasn't that bad with the breeze.
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Oct 13 2019
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56 male
 Joined Jul 05 2006
 Mesa, AZ
Thunderbird Conservation ParkPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 13 2019
DarthStillerTriplogs 856
Hiking8.50 Miles 1,257 AEG
Hiking8.50 Miles   3 Hrs   55 Mns   2.17 mph
1,257 ft AEG
 
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I hadn't been out to this area in well over 14 years or more, so it seemed like a good time to go back. Hiking these trails was like doing them for the first time again, I can barely remember them from before. I hiked the one spur at the top of the east hill that isn't on the map. Saw a fire off to the east a bit which made a lot of smoke that hung in the air and drifted through the valley. It was interesting to see the surrounding mountains from a different perspective and try to pick them out.

I was intending to get a little more mileage in, but the rocky trails tended to slow me down some. I think I hiked uphill faster than I did on several level and downhill sections.
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May 15 2019
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 Phoenix,Az
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mt98dewTriplogs 2,387
Run/Jog3.91 Miles 64 AEG
Run/Jog3.91 Miles      59 Mns   3.98 mph
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Short after work run at Thunderbird. Did,y usual clockwise loop with this side trail thrown in. The main trail that I used for this loop (Cholla and Coachwhip) were in their usual clear, but rocky shape. This side trail gets much action than I thought. It is narrower and the trail has quite a bit of patches of dead grass, but the grass has been well trodden, which in a way kind of accentuates the trail more. Weather was a little warm but not too bad. A good breeze kept things seemingly more cool than it probably was. Encountered 9 hikers and 1 trail runner. Wildlife was a chuckwalla and a covey of quail ( counted 13).
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Aug 21 2018
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Run/Jog3.88 Miles 64 AEG
Run/Jog3.88 Miles      53 Mns   4.39 mph
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After work jog. Went CW from the main parking lot. Weather was quite a bit different compared to last week's run. Clear and sunny, slightly humid and almost no breeze. :sweat: It's amazing how that effects my mindset when I'm running. With the cooler temperatures, I feel like pushing it and with the warmer ones I just want to maintain a pace. Surprisingly (and disappointedly) there wasn't that much difference between the two paces. Did the little side trail as I completed the loop. Saw two other hikers and what looked to be a horny toad like lizard - a little bit longer in length than a typical horny toad - so I'm not sure exactly what it was.
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