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Upper Grant Creek Trail #65 - Blue Range - 3 members in 16 triplogs have rated this an average 3.7 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Upper Grant Creek Trail #65 - Blue RangeAlpine, AZ
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After finishing the lower part of Foote Creek trail a few weeks ago, I decided it might be a good time to see if I can "finish" the trail. I was thinking an out-and-back from P-Bar Lake TH down to the Horse Ridge junction would be the goal, although I wasn't expecting trail conditions to be very good. P-Bar Lake trail is a walk in the park, and once on Foote Creek trail, the lack of maintenance quickly becomes apparent after the Grant Creek trail splits off. Still, it was pretty easy to follow into the upper Foote Creek drainage; deadfall was really the biggest issue.

Once into Foote Creek, the trail pretty much disappeared, and it was basically side-hilling while climbing over logs. Did this for maybe a mile and decided at that point that Foote Creek would be best left unfinished, at least until someone decides to rebuild the trail. Also, the canyon was a little smoky, although not enough that I could smell it. At one point I could see smoke billowing up ahead; I didn't realize until after the hike that the fire was actually in Foote Creek, apparently around the Horse Ridge junction. Glad I avoided stumbling into an active fire... Really hoping that area doesn't get charred too badly.

After I decided to turn around, I figured I may as well go check out the Upper Grant Creek trail, which I attempted from the top a couple years ago, but quickly lost the trail. Headed down Grant Creek trail, which seems to see regular maintenance at least to Paradise Park - locust are starting to encroach, but not enough to really slow you down. Then down the Grant Cabin Shortcut. A little upstream from the cabin, found a nice spot to take a short break, then proceeded up canyon.

For the most part, route finding in Upper Grant Creek was not too difficult, and the trail exists in most places. But the locust are getting really bad, and if it's not trimmed soon, getting through this canyon is going to be very difficult. I was barely moving at 1mph through there. It was also getting pretty warm, even at 9000 feet.

Eventually I got to Hannagan TH, where I would've loved my car to have been at that point in time, but I had to get back to P-Bar TH. I opted to take Clell Lee Trail, since it would be a little shorter, all downhill, and I hadn't seen it all the way down to 191. It's a pleasant little valley. The mile or so along 191 was OK; as far as highways are concerned it's not bad, I only saw four vehicles total in the 15 minutes or so it took.
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Hannagan meandering, AZ 
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
Run/Jog13.59 Miles 1,431 AEG
Run/Jog13.59 Miles   4 Hrs   22 Mns   3.62 mph
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Bit of an ill-fated day, didn't get a whole lot of sleep after I saw a wolf jog by in the middle of the night. The plan was to go down Fish Creek trail. Got to Hannagan TH in time for a 7am start, and immediately got lost in the campground. Wandered around a bit looking for the trail, then went back, when I found a "Fish Creek Tr" sign about 15 feet off the main trail, with no visible route. I followed blazes, with a few stretches of what seemed to be tread, to a fire road west of the campground. Wandered down the road a bit looking for the continuation, but decided it must have been right on the other side. Indeed, I found the tread, which quickly disappeared into thick locust. The upper part of this trail is pretty much a no-go at this point, unless you like climbing over deadfall while being scraped to death.

Headed back up to the TH, debating on whether to just go to a different TH, but decided to check out the Aker Lake trail (spelled "Achre" on the trail signs). This was a nice meandering trail, with only a few slightly overgrown patches. The lake itself had one of those ambiguous shorelines where there's tall grass and you're not really sure whether you're in or out of the lake. Probably easier to go around the south side.

Decided to take the dirt road back to 191 and cross over the highway to make a loop. Headed down KP Rim trail, which is all through burn scar, but well-trimmed. Took the Steeple connector north, which I had done previous day. Not much changed over a period of 20 or so hours, but I was surprised to find I had left plenty of raspberries unpicked.

Intended to explore down Upper Grant Creek a bit, but the trail quickly disappeared into raspberry vines. Didn't really want to deal with that, so I decided to check out Clell Lee Spring trail instead. This trail was A-OK, a nice gentle grade down a pretty valley, ending up at the spring, where there's the remains of what could be an old building. After this it was just a jog back up to Hannagan Meadow.
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Grant Creek Overnight Backpack, AZ 
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I ended my summer in the same area my summer began, the Primitive Blue Range. Katie myself, John and our pack of four completed a nice little overnight trip to Grant Cabin along Grant Creek.

Day 1:

The first mile or so along Steeple was pleasant as usual. Upper Grant Creek Trail is trying its hardest to return to its primitive nature, despite being cleared a year ago, but the trail is still generally in good shape. It just tends to drag a little towards the end and the going always seems to be a little slower than expected. After setting up camp at the cabin, we headed off for a side trip to Moonshine Park. We left to the beginnings of some light rain. Moonshine Park will not blow you away, but its a pleasant area and worth the side trip. As we left Moonshine, the rain picked up in its intensity as did the thunder and lightning. We nixed a plan to explore Paradise went straight to camp, getting pretty drenched along the way. We then had to retreat to the tents for an hour or so. After the rain ended, it was the usual camp chores, a fire and trying to stay up past 8:30.

Day 2:

We took our time the morning of day two and left camp a little after nine. From camp you pretty much start climbing and you don't really end until a little over two miles and an elevation of approximately 8,900 feet. Luckily, the trails were in great shape and the grade was thoughtful, so the climb did not really prove to be that bad. A little warm at times, but manageable. From P-Bar Lake it was a very pleasant hike through some nice stands of surviving forest along great trail all the way to our beginning trailhead and the completion of our loop. Another fulfilling trip to the Blue.
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Grant Creek - Primitive Blue Range, AZ 
Grant Creek - Primitive Blue Range, AZ
 
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John9LTriplogs 1,647
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As the holiday weekend approached, I contacted Lee to see what he was up to. He said he's going back into The Blue for an easy backpack with Katie & the dogs. He invited me & I'm glad I joined.

We would car camp on Friday night and then headed over to the trailhead and started in. Steeple was in great shape and we connected onto Grant Creek Trail which was slow & overgrown. We took our time as we descended the canyon. The sun was out and it was hot. We kept at it and worked our way over and around dead fall and we were able to follow the trail whenever it existed. We finally hit the cabin and decide to set up camp.

After camp was set up we decided to go for a day hike as dark clouds moved in. We headed for Moonshine Park as a light rain started to fall. We followed a good trail that was cleared recently. It was easy going and we enjoyed the park. We walked around the area and took a variety of pics and then the skies opened up. Thunder roared and the rain grew heavy. We started our return and put our heads down and cruised back. Once we were back at camp we climbed into our tents and waited an hour for the storm to pass. As soon as it cleared, Lee & Katie built the fire and evening set in. We dried our gear & ate dinner.

We woke on day two and took our time packing up & headed out around 9am. Our return climbed almost 2,000ft but went well. It's a respectable climb but the trail is in good condition. Once things leveled off, we took a short break and then headed the last few miles back to the trailhead. There were a handful of downed trees to climb over. Once back to the car we talked about our options and decided to get some food in Hannagan Meadows and then return to Phoenix.

This was a nice hike and I'm glad I drove out. I wish we spent another night so we could have explored more. Its a good reason to return another time.
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Intro to Blue, AZ 
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1st trip
First time to the Blue. Out of laziness admiration I simply copy/pasted FOTG's earlier trip this year and stuck to the trails.

Day 1
Caught a few hours of sleep before cruising down Steeple/Upper Grant Creek. Upper Grant was okay, intermittent tread with a few obstacles, travel was slower than expected. Swung over on Paradise and gawked over the hints of big views through the trees before connecting with Grant Creek. Grant Creek served as a dividing line for complete devastation and untouched pines for awhile before succumbing to the burn and wandering sadly through a field of ferns.

Stopped at White Oak Spring to spook a buck and flock of turkeys (and filter some water) before tumbling down the rest of Grant Creek Trail. The exposure was hot and my poorly-fitting boots were starting to annoy me, so when I reached the creek itself and saw more signs of burn damage (flood damage and young, greedy growth) I rushed forward and crashed at the trailhead. Bottom of the Blue felt like a darn furnace after the cooler, shaded mountains above.

A hot, dusty forest road did a great job at burning through my water and I was very thankful to find Lanphier Creek flowing at the Largo junction. Trudged uphill on Largo, enjoying the little park beyond the first ridge and Dutch Oven area and mostly cursing my boots. Found some interesting pens that seemed to be protecting the source of Largo Creek, though they were all opened, and the wildlife had obviously been digging deep to find water here this summer. Crested and dropped along the Little Blue Trail to find a very talkative man camping at Bear Valley for a few weeks with his mules, ended up camping at a nice tent pad another half mile on his suggestion.

Day 2
Woke early and hobbled along the rest of the Little Blue, admiring the geologic structures by the twin light of mostly-full moon and slowly-waking sun. Cut over on 609 (which was labeled Horse Mountain Connector by a sign), which was faint yet easy, before bumping into Cow Flat. This trail was fantastic and won the Trail of the Day award. It has variety, several awesome rest spots, and very creative construction. There was also little shade and rolly rocks and catclaw, but hey, this is Arizona.

Aside: there was a feed bag at Ladrone Spring, within a few feet of the campfire ring. This seems bad.

The furnace was alive and kicking when I entered the wide riverbed of the Blue River, and between that and the intermittent trail and the sand and the rock-hopping on sore feet, the next three hours were No Fun. The flow itself was dark and silty, and the tributaries were mostly dry, so I had to filter the questionable river and hope that the aftertaste was 'charm'. When I exited the trail I was immediately yelled at by the landowner who claims there is no way to reach the northern trailhead without trespassing. Anyways, reached Cole Flat by 2pm, thought about heading up Steeple, looked at the gathering storm clouds above and my stupid boots below, and crashed. The next few hours were a delightful mix of reading in a hammock, munching on snacks, and napping in the tent under the patter and rumble of storms that most of Arizona seems to have missed out on this year.

Day 3
Another early start. Yesterday's extra rest proved well worth it, as I was able to zip up the first few miles of Steeple quickly, not letting the sun touch me until I was on KP Mesa. This trail was in great shape and I trotted along easily, enjoying the big views. Mud Spring was totally dry so I pushed on to the next marked spring on the topo to water up. My original plan was to cut over on Paradise and retrace Upper Grant Creek, but the thought of cutting a few miles and completing Lee & Katie's full loop was tempting, so I stuck to Steeple.

That drainage lasted an eternity. Every hundred yards or so there'd be a long patch of locusts to push through, and there was deadfall too, but I only lost the trail once, so I was happy about the condition. The sun and lack of wind were the real pain points on this section - otherwise, this trail is in no worse shape than some of the nightmares in the Mazatzal or Sierra Ancha. I crested in two hours and cruised the final miles happily, already planning future revisits.
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Great pools for filtering.

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Happy little trough.

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Flowing along most of the last few miles of trail, only drying up for the final mile.

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Dry at mount, flowing at Largo Trail junction.

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Spring was dry, creek was dry. Did not venture down creek of topo locale. Springs another half mile upstream had several pools of water.

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Both tanks were overflowing.

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Muddy pools of water below the trail.
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Return to the Blue, AZ 
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1st trip
I have envisioned this backpack, or variations of it for several years now. But ambitious summer trips, climbing, terrible trails and dogs always prevented the idea from coming to fruition. However, the stars began to align for a proper return to the Blue earlier this year when my interest in the area was reignited by a quick weekend trip there in the spring and when I got word that some of the upper trails had been cleared.

Day 1: 13.1 miles

Our backpack began and ended at the Steeple/Foot Creek Trailhead. We started off on the Steeple Trail #73 and cruised down to the junction for the primitive Upper Grant Creek Trail. Steeple endured some winter deadfall, but the trail showed signs of having been worked on and was generally in great shape. The Upper Grant Creek trail has been transformed since the last time I saw it and is in great shape. It was definitely not the trail Blanco and I turned around on dejectedly several years ago while trying to reach the Grant Creek Cabin. From the Grant Creek Cabin, we took the always pleasant Paradise Trail to Paradise Park and the Grant Creek Trail. We made a stop at White Oak Spring along the way and then I showed Katie some granaries I had found in the area a few years ago. My memory of where the granaries were remained good, however, my memory of the distance was not so good. I told Katie about a tenth of a mile off trail and they proved to be about a steep and loose half mile off trail. My favorite camping spot along lower Grant Creek was taken by a local family, so we resorted to camping among the cows and their feces.

Day 2: 15.75 miles

After wading through a few hundred herd of cattle we reached the Blue early on the second morning. The road was mundane and a little warm despite the early start. It was familiar trails to Bear Valley and they all were in great shape. We enjoyed a nice afternoon in the valley of the bears and a long night of sleep.

Day 3: 12 miles

We began day three with the short, but stunning section of the Little Blue down stream of Bear Valley. After that we took for my first time an informal trail just numbered 609 on my map to the Cow Flat Trail. Trail 609 proved to be more than just a number and was actually quite pleasant for the majority of the trail. Cow Flat was a lot greener than the last time I hiked it, so that was nice, but I still found the trail a tad mundane and it seemed to drag on a little in the heat. After a stop at my favorite spring and waterfall, we finally started making our way up the Blue. We were a little beat upon hitting the Blue and took a couple of extended breaks along the way with some swimming. We ended up calling it a day near Tornado Canyon and made camp by the old barn.

Day 4: 13 miles

We got an early start on the fourth morning to go explore a side canyon that was alluded to in an archaeological report written about the area in the early 1900s. Apart from being referred to as a geological wonder, the canyon was said to house at one time the largest known prehistoric ceremonial cave in the southwest at 10,000 square feet. Everything written about the canyon long ago was true.
...a canyon which, though short and shut in by very steep walls, contains scenery worthy of the highest admiration for its combined beauty and grandeur.


A trickling three-tiered slick rock waterfall guarded the entrance to the canyon and we had to take a bypass just to reach the interior. By this point we were already satisfied with our exploration, as we were immediately able to confirm that the window we saw in a distance from the Blue was actually a very large arch. Naturally, we made the scramble to the base of the arch to investigate. The scramble was steep and loose and required a little class four climbing to reach, but it was worth the effort. The arch was tall and dramatic and a pretty stunning feature to stand under. Further exploration up canyon revealed the cave to us. Like any cave, the cave was hard to capture, but stunning to stand in. The cave had been pretty badly picked over by ranchers and pot hunters over the year, but some crumbling walls helped the imagination. We spent as much time in the cave as we could and I found some other crumbled walls under many overhangs throughout the canyon, but we knew the hardest part of our day loomed ahead, as we still needed to begin our relentless climb of the Steeple Trail.

The climb up to KP and Steeple Mesas was as relentless as I had remembered. However, a few years of recovery and a much greener backdrop, led to the climb being more scenic than I had remembered. We ended our day at Mud Spring. The spring´s name did not inspire much faith in the area being nice, but overall it proved to be a very pleasant destination. The spring had good camping and was flowing nicely. The area represented an almost exact line of where the forest had suffered near 100 percent devastation and where a pocket of trees had survived. Luckily, the camping and trees were under the pocket of trees that survived.

Day 5: 8 miles

We had two options to complete our backpack. There was the Paradise Trail option back to Moonshine Park and then the same stretch of Grant Creek we began on to finish, or a commitment to nearly four miles of unknown trail via the Steeple Trail back to the rim. We went with the Steeple finish because I had never traveled that section of trail and I was interested to know if Steeple went cleanly all the way to the Blue. As it turned out that stretch of Steeple was by far the worst trail we encountered in our five days. The New Mexican Locust has literally devoured the trail in spots and it was a constant bushwhack to the rim. The locust was so bad in spots that we had to detour to the burnt hillside for awhile to bypass it. The tread however, was still generally there. There is just a tremendous amount of overgrowth on and across the trail. Through a little grit though we finally reached the intersection with the KP Rim Trail where the FS had quit with their maintenance of Steeple a year ago. From there is was cruiser to the trailhead.

Final Notes:

It was nice to finally knock out the entire length of the Steeple Trail. The trail is not impassable from Mud Spring to the KP Rim intersection, but I would not recommend it. If making a loop with rim in this area, the best bet most likely seems to be utilizing the Moonshine Park route back to Grant Creek.

Upper Grant Creek Trail is a worthy destination again. The trail is still considered a primitive trail, but the FS has that one in great shape again.

The cattle are ruining lower Grant Creek. I have never seen so many cattle in the Blue before. They have eaten everything green down there except the poison ivy. How is having this many head of cattle grazing there helping with restoring Grant Creek post Wallow Fire?

Eastern Trails were in great shape.

The Blue is back. Well not all the way, but I know for myself I am not excited to get back out there and continue to utilize some of these newly cleared trails. Likewise, the forest is finally starting to rebound at a more noticeable level. The aspen are coming in nicely in spots and there are far more signs of green life than when I started going to the area in 2014.

Katie is really into birds. I am becoming a reluctant birder. I am only really into hawks and eagles. On this trip we saw a: Bald Eagle, Northern Harrier, Ferriginous Hawk, Red Tailed Hawk and a Common Black Hawk.
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Deep pool of water in natural, ¨tank¨

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Large section of canyon and spring is flowing nicely.

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Same steady, consistent flow as always.

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Flowing from spring to Blue

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Flowing nicely for a mile or so out of Bear Valley

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Creek bed is flowing near spring, and mud bank is dripping steadily. Good camping near spring.

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Two over-flowing troughs

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A few deeper mud puddles, but I would not count on for water.
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Upper Grant Creek Trail #65 - Blue RangeAlpine, AZ
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1st trip
Not having been on this 'trail' since before the Wallow burn I was overdue. Well..maybe it should be re-named the 'Boot-camp Trail'. Although ruggedly beautiful, it was a full-body workout climbing up, over and around all of the dead-fall - especially with an overnight backpack. The upside of this rough travel (keeping fisherman impact to a minimum) is that the fish are abundant.
We started down the Steeple Trail 73 toward Grant Creek, originally planning to form a loop using the 65 trail downstream to the 305 trail to return. But after the blistering average down Upper Grant 65(< 2mph) and expecting the same on the 305 we decided to head out the 306, 75 and 76 trails.
306 is well-constructed and mostly undamaged by fire - beautiful. Once on the 75 it was still undamaged at the lower end but the upper reaches were fire-damaged with some dead-fall - although by Trail(?) 65 standards it was clear-sailing. The 76 trail to the west is about 80% fire-damaged but there ARE areas where you can see remnants of its former glory. Workarounds for dead-fall are straightforward.
We were visited by a 20 minute hail-storm and deluge at the end of the hike, offering a welcome coolness to the air.

NOTES: Although labeled here on HAZ as Trail 74, on maps and signage Grant Creek Trail is labeled as 75 - Important as most maps of the Blue list just the trail number, not the name.

One in our group short-cutted down Trail 326 and reported that it was pretty clear sailing and a pretty hike.
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Blue Range loop, AZ 
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1st trip
Well this trip took the cake for pushing the limits...

We started off with a few ideas (VERY lofty ones as we quickly learned) about how much mileage we could put behind us in this area. In the end it took everything just to make it through the sub-12-mile route we ended up taking.

Things started off well heading down Upper Grant Creek trail, but a few miles in it got pretty nasty. The amount of deadfall was painfully excessive, and trail maintenance seems to be a thing of the past in this area. A lot of blockages could be hopped right over, but a few required scaling the steep/loose walls bush-whack style in order to try to get back to an already faint trail in many areas. One detour in particular had us crawling all over the north side of the canyon to meet back up with what the USGS maps show as the trail. Suffice it to say it was never found and it took a LOT of route finding and effort to get back to another leg of the trail.

This drained us physically and mentally which made the rest of the day pretty craptastic. Eventually we ran out of light on our way to Moonshine Park and were lucky enough to make it to the corral. We would've taken ANY flat ground for the night, but this was a beautiful campsite with fire ring, log seating, close water, and just the right mix of shade and open spots free of widowmakers.

Day 2 was fun as we started off and had decided to just head straight north to meet up with the Foote Creek trail. Missing the turn which must've been just on the edge of the corral campsite, we had to make a short backtrack and bushwhack to get onto the switchbacks.

Following the shortcut trail we quickly met up with the Grant Creek trail and the ascent was on. Views were pretty epic.

Shortly after connecting to Grant Creek trail, we hit the little valley/u-turn with the spring-fed water which was flowing well enough to top off. Another quick look at the map and we decided that we need to load up on water as there might not be any accessible water the rest of the trip. this turned out to be a good choice as the only water we saw from here on out was p-bar 'lake'. Suffice it to say that there was no way we were going to filter that mess.

Eventually we made it to p-bar and the connection to Foote Creek trail. We went west for a short bit and picked the first spot just off trail that we could find with any flat ground. Not a lotta good options for camping along this area, and in hindsight I think we should've camped just prior to the Foote Creek trail connection, but there is no way we were gonna burn more time/energy backtracking at this point. More exposure due to lack of canopy, steep grades, and 6 liters of water each had beaten us well.

Day 3 was a trudge back to the Hannagan Meadow trailhead that we THOUGHT would be a pleasant change of pace. The terrain wasn't too bad, but the deadfall continued to hamper progress, and there were more large swaths of burn area that kept us roasting in the sun. Some time later, and a few trail signs, we saw the wooden gate frame at the trailhead and the ice cold water stored in the vehicle had NEVER tasted so good.
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1st trip
I made my favorite five hour drive this weekend. The destination was none other than my beloved Primitive Blue Range. I planned a weekend of exploring new trails, a little fishing and gathering some much needed data on the area to share on HAZ and use for own personal planning. There is simply not a lot of beta floating around for the P.B.R and the several trails systems in the area.

The first day was designed to be a light creek fishing day with the incorporation of two new trails for me: Upper Grant Creek Trail #74 and Long Cienega Trail #305. Both the Upper Grant Trail and Long Cienega fall under the forest service's primitive trail designation. The Upper Grant Trail was actually a very pleasant little trail, with signs of trail maintenance and a nice setting among the upper stretches of the perennial Grant Creek. I saw my first Apache Trout in a small pool at 7,700 feet from there on one can witness several shy trout darting in and out from the danger of the well lit water to the safety of the shadows and depths of their pools. The trout are actually ubiquitous to some small sections of the stream here, however, the nice trout are much further down stream and require a considerable amount of effort to reach.

On our way down stream while trying my luck in a new hole and with Cup by my side attentively watching Blanco stirred up a bear that was probably not 20 yards from us. I think until Blanco stirred him up, the bear's strategy was probably to just wait us out. Blanco gave the bear a strong initial effort, however, nothing beats a bear scurrying up the side of a bank in heavy brush, could not even get a picture, but a real treat none the less and my first bear sighting in the B.R. Meanwhile, the fishing proved to be great once again.

We ended up going off trail down stream much further than I had anticipated, imagine that I low-balled the miles total, that never happens to me. Anyways, making our way down and up stream off trail was some pretty nasty terrain for Cup, so I decided to forgo Long Cienega. I had finally looked at the trail closely on a map and I noticed its terminus was in a real nasty burned out area I had hie through the year before. The aforementioned coupled with the fact that the beginning of the trail did not look all that enticing, led me to opt for the known trails out and a much nicer exit for the dogs.

Less than a 3000 foot climb out, but a tad strenuous in spots. The climb out was pretty uneventful, however, the trails were generally pleasant.
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Jul 15 2013
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 Lakeside, AZ
Upper Grant Creek Trail #65 - Blue RangeAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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conform6073Triplogs 58
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Trail crew finished in here last week - their shelter is still setup at the cabin, but the work is finished - and conditions are prime, or as prime as they ever will be. There's new deadfall on the trail already. It's a wildflower and butterfly circus down there right, and if this is on your bucket list, go now. Abundant poison ivy beginning about 2 miles from the top end.
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Oct 03 2009
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 Joined Feb 26 2009
 Mesa, AZ
Steeple Trail #73 - Blue RangeAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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Xiled1Triplogs 13
Backpack15.00 Miles 2,000 AEG
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This past weekend my wife and I took an overnight backpacking trip in the Blue Range primitive area. We were hoping to see some wolves but only ended up hearing them on Friday night. We hiked a loop consisting of the #73 (Steeple Trail) to #74 (Paradise Trail) to #65 (Upper Grant Creek Trail) to #305 (Long Cienega Trail). We started out Saturday morning and headed down the Steeple Trail. At its intersection with the #65 trail, there were a couple of backpacking tents setup in a nice meadow. I think this would be a good place to camp on a Friday night if you were arriving late.

After 65 we started to climb though meadows and forest that is recovering from a fire. The area is thick with young 4-6 foot aspens, almost as though they were a weed. Most of the leaves had changed to yellow/orange but were only just starting to fall. At 2.8 miles we came to the intersection with the #305 trail and #73 turned right up the hill to the KP rim. At the rim you get some great views. After hiking along the rim for short while we began the long downhill along Steeple Creek. So far the trail was relatively clear and looked like it was recently maintained. As we descended the trail slowly degraded from firm ground to loose rock combined with lots of fire debris. Whoever maintained the trail saw fit to cut the young trees off 4-6 inches above the ground and they make for great trip hazards. A little farther down you add in the thorn bushes, wear pants. We came to a downed tree that looked like it was blocking the trail, but there were actually some switchbacks going down to the creeks edge, water was flowing near the bottom. That's where the trail all but disappeared. We had to bushwack for about a mile, finding and losing the trail numerous times. Route finding was easy, just follow the creek. The trail cleared up shortly before reaching #74. Along the way we did find a spooky pile of old backpacking equipment including pack, tent, bag, and a pile of empty food cans; strange.

#74 is a well maintained trail which gently climbs away from Steeple creek and over to Moonshine Park, a small meadow in a depression. We camped there for the night. In the morning, it was back on #74 following along Grant creek which was flowing nicely. This turned into #65 and kept following the creek. We reached the canyon where I THOUGHT #305 was supposed to be, a small amount of water flowing in the stream. Due to my poor map reading skills, I thought we were supposed to hike directly up the drainage, but #305 was actually a little ways past the canyon exit. So we bushwacked up a short ways and then climbed out of the canyon and stumbled onto the trail - Hallelujah! We had considered turning back. This trail is a little less maintained, but not hard to follow. It takes you up the stream drainage, thru some thick forest so its well shaded. Water flow was intermittent throughout the trail. This trail had been recently cleared as well. Its about 3.5 miles from #65 back to #73 and you get to gain all the elevation you lost. The last ¼ mile of the hike opens up into a long meadow where the trail disappears. We just hiked to the other end and the trail resumed, dropping us at the 73/305 intersection. It seemed like a short hike back to the car from here compared to the slog up #305. We got back to the car enjoyed a cold bottle of Gatorade and some football on the radio.

This was a pretty difficult hike for us since we don't get many chances to go out. But well worth the effort. We got to enjoy some fall colors, cooler weather, and great views.
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Sep 02 2007
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 Scottsdale
Upper Grant Creek Trail #65 - Blue RangeAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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Hiking11.30 Miles 2,500 AEG
Hiking11.30 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   2.05 mph
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This hike was actually an 11.3 mile loop hike incorporating five trails and originated from the Hannagan Meadows trailhead. It took us 5 ½ hours including a short 10 minute stop for lunch and was one of the prettiest hikes I've ever been on. The trails in order were Steeple Mesa (#73) to Upper Grant Creek (#65) to Grant Cabin Shortcut (#306), to Grant Creek (#75) to the Foote Creek (#76). The highlight of the trip was the Upper Grant Creek Trail and one covers most of its distance so that's what I went with as far as a hike name.

We got a late start at 12:20 pm which had me somewhat concerned due to the likelihood of afternoon showers and an earlier sunset at around 6:30. (We decided to claim a campsite and pitch a tent at the Hannagan Campgrounds before hiking which added to the delay.) I was planning for a 6 hour hike and cutting it kind of close. The weather was a beautiful, sunny 66 degrees when we pushed off.

The trailhead itself is at 9,200 feet. After 1.4 miles on the Steeple Mesa Trail (#73) we came to the turnoff for Upper Grant Creek (#65). The intersection is well signed in the middle of a meadow. We headed east down the meadow through the long grass following no discernable trail. This worried me as I feared the entire trail would be a similar bushwhack which would really slow us down and have us on the trail after dark. However, once we got to the trees at the end of the meadow, there was a well defined trail that traveled along the creek. Route finding was never an issue, (it's a drainage for crying out loud!), and the trail was well traveled. In a few spots there was some confusion as the trail crisscrossed the creek, but it was no big deal and we were able to maintain a good pace. This trail was simply gorgeous! The further we descended the greater the volume of water in the creek which made for a boat load of fun and wet feet on several of the numerous creek crossings. However, we were giving up quite a bit of elevation and I knew we'd eventually have to pay the piper for that. There we a couple of spots where the trail climbed up the steep sides of the drainage to avoid water pour offs in the creek. This was merely a harbinger of things to come and we felt like we were hiking into a lobster trap with all of the elevation we were giving up. Just before the intersection with Grant Creek Cabin Shortcut Trail (#306), we came across said cabin. Only its 4 walls are left and it sits next to a small corral. Apparently ranchers used this along with some moonshiners at some point. My GPS had this intersection at the 5.5 mile mark and it had taken us 2 ¼ hours to get to the turnaround point at 7,300 feet. Originally, we had wanted to hike further down to Moonshine Park but decided to pass on that short side trip since we were pressed for time.

We climbed out of the drainage on the Grant Creek Cabin Shortcut Trail (#306) which was fairly steep with lots of switchbacks. It was probably only ¾ of a mile to the intersection with the Grant Creek Trail (#75), but it took us a while. As we climbed out of the drainage on the bear slopes we were treated to awesome views of the entire Blue Range. The climb up continued on the Grant Creek Trail (#75) for approximately another two miles until the intersection with the Foote Creek Trail (#76) on the top of the rim at the 8,900 foot mark. All told, this 2 hour stretch on a stair master covered roughly 1,600 feet in 2 ¾ miles.

From this point it's a relatively flat 3+ miles back to the trailhead through a thick forest with lots of Aspen. Along the way we jumped a group of turkeys and 3 large elk and got back to the trailhead at 5:50 with plenty of light remaining. Fortunately, the weather held and we never had to don our rain gear.
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Jun 06 2007
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Steeple Trail #73 - Blue RangeAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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GrasshopperTriplogs 578
Hiking13.40 Miles 3,920 AEG
Hiking13.40 Miles   7 Hrs      1.91 mph
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During my 10 day camping/hiking trip to the Hannagan Meadow area, this LOOP HIKE, starting out on the Steeple Trail#73 turned-out to be the one I most enjoyed of the five day hikes I was able to complete during my stay(5/30-6/8/07) at the Hannagan Campground.

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Hiking Route: From the Steeple Tr#73 / Foote Creek Tr#76 Trailhead(off Hwy#191 near MM231.5), begin on Steeple Tr#73 for 1.3mls down to intersection with Upper Grant Creek Tr#65; hike #65 down 4mls to intersection with Paradise Tr#74; hike #74 up 1.9mls to intersection with Grant Creek Tr#75; hike #75 up 2.6mls to intersection with Foote Creek Tr#76; hike #76 for 3.6mls ~level terrain back to the beginning TH and parking area; This wonderful and manageable 13.4ml LOOP HIKE has a total accumulated elevation of: 3838ft;
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Prior to doing this hike, I spent almost half a day on 6/5 having fun looking at maps and planning this above LOOP HIKE. Prior to leaving home for the trip, I discovered this "inner trail" called the Paradise Trail#74, so I already knew that one hiking day that I HAD TO MAKE IT TO THIS TRAIL..regardless!...I figured that any trail named PARADISE had to be worth whatever effort it took to get there :) ! It turned-out that I was correct...the scenic views and old forest growth on this trail section were great! This Paradise Tr is 4.2mls long, but on this planned loop, I was only able to include the upper 1.9mls of it for this trip, but I will be back one day to do the 2.3ml balance of the South/SW trail portion. Also, this loop included a most pleasant surprise with my inclusion of the 4 mile Upper Grant Creek Tr#65 which is "not" passable during the rainy seasons(usually not a problem in June). This trail desends a beautiful steep & deep, narrow canyon with huge old growth forest, beautiful & unusual dense (almost "rain forest like"..) vegetation along a very active, running creek. This primitive trail is somewhat difficult to follow at times, crossing over the creek numerous time, and would be almost impossible to follow when the creek water is HIGH. A lucky seven of us encounted much Bear scat and Elk signs while hiking this beautiful 4 mile trail to its end at the Paradise Trail#74 intersection.

Also, this loop hike was the same day that 81MPH WINDS were clocked on the top of the Forest Service FIRE TOWER on ESCUDILLA PEAK! (see my Escudilla Tr triplog..dtd-6/7/07). For our afternoon 3.6ml hike on the Foote Creek Tr#76 back to the TH, we were actually having to "dodge and run over/under" falling trees due to these major high winds in the forest canopy..it was actually pretty scary at times, but we did all get back safely.
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Jun 04 2007
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Foote Creek Trail #76Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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GrasshopperTriplogs 578
Hiking11.50 Miles 3,680 AEG
Hiking11.50 Miles   6 Hrs   20 Mns   1.82 mph
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This 16 mile trail goes deep into the Blue Range Primitive Area & Wilderness from Rim Top(at 9200')to Canyon Bottom (at 5520'). I joined my AOTC group this day to do a nice, manageable "in and out" day hike to the OLD GRANT LOG CABIN and back.

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Trail Route: At the Steeple Creek Tr#73 / Foote Creek Tr#76 TH- Start on trail#76 and continue ~mostly level for 3.6mls to the intersection of the Grant Creek Tr#75 at P-Bar Lake(more like a small pond now); Continue Right and downhill on #75 for 1.5mls to the intersection (at gate) with Grant Cabin Shortcut Tr#306; Continue downhill on Tr#306 for .5ml to intersection with Upper Grant Creek Tr#65; Turn Right on Tr#65 and continue ~level for not more than .1ml to a nice lunch spot next to active Upper Grant Creek and the Upper Grant Creek Trail OLD LOG CABIN. This nice "in and out" hike is 11.5mls and +/-1800ft;
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This is a great hike to get acquainted with some of the hiking areas East of Hannagan Meadow in the Blue Range Primitive Area and Wilderness. The first 3.6mls is a nice level walk (+/-200ft) in the woods, in an old growth forest/canopy of large aspen, fir, pine, and spruce trees. You will start the downhill trek (-1600ft) after turning right at P-Bar Lake on to the Grant Creek Tr#75. Lunch at the Upper Grant Creek Tr OLD LOG CABIN is a great photo op area next to active Upper Grant Creek. It was at this lunch spot that I got the idea to plan a hike (for 6/6..see Steeple Trail triplog) to do the entire 4ml Upper Grant Creek Tr#65. While the others were having lunch and doing photo ops, I hiked about 10 minutes further UP this primitive Tr#65 and I was convienced that it would be a wonderful hike to do!
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May 26 2007
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 Lakeside, AZ
Upper Grant Creek Trail #65 - Blue RangeAlpine, AZ
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conform6073Triplogs 58
Hiking13.70 Miles 1,600 AEG
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Starting at Hannagan Meadow Lodge, we walked across the highway to the trailhead and ventured south on the Steeple Mesa Trail. At the junction with Upper Grant Creek Trail, we turned east onto it. This track was a mess last time we used it several years ago, but the trail crew groomed it in a recent season, and it's in good shape now. Due to lack of traffic, it does tend to disappear in the overgrowth from time to time. Past Grant Creek Cabin we turned onto Paradise Trail, which also is little used. We discovered the extensive fires of a few years ago did not spare Paradise Park. Everthing north of the trail is burned. The 1500 foot climb up Grant Creek Trail is always tedious, made even more so this day by much deadfall. We could step over or around all of it (and removed from the path what we could), but it was still a bother. At P-Bar Lake we turned west onto Foote Creek Trail and stayed with it back to the trailhead.

It was a cool, lovely day, and we encountered no other persons on the trail. We also saw no wildlife, which disappoined as we always expect to see bear in the Blue.
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May 29 2006
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 Tempe, AZ
Upper Grant Creek Trail #65 - Blue RangeAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
Hiking avatar May 29 2006
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Hiking5.00 Miles 1,600 AEG
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We began the hike at a small trailhead 2.8 miles north of Hannagan Meadows on US Highway 191. From a gravel parking area on the east side of the highway, the trail crosses a small ditch before heading into the forest beyond. For the first mile the hike followed the P Bar Lake Trail, which climbed a moderate grade to gain the ridge running east of the road. After the ascent of 500 feet the route leveled off before connecting with the Foote Creek Trail. Turning left at this junction, the route continues for another 0.5 mile to P Bar Lake. Though the lake is little more than a muddy stock pond, it is surrounded by a nice meadow. At the far end of P Bar Lake meadow, the route keeps right at a second trail junction. This is the start of the Grant Creek Trail. Over the span of about a mile and a half the trail decends about 1,000 feet.
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