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Apr 16 2024
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South Canyon, AZ 
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This was the second hike I did with Megan. I didn’t do any research on the route except for, “it goes down from the rim to the bed below the Coconino, then follows the bed to the river”. I quite like when I get to figure these routes out with limited beta.

The road out to South Canyon was in great shape until the last mile, where it got rockier. The descent through the top of the Kaibab is a narrow ramp that’s invisible unless you know where to look. A clear use trail led through the Toroweap, which is thick here, to a scramble at the top of the Coconino. This scramble also doesn’t look like it goes until you’re leaning out over it and looking down. There was a brief section of nice Coconino slickrock walking before we were back on a crumbly talus ridge. I thought the rock was least trustworthy right near the creekbed, and a few trails braid there.

Once in the bed of South Canyon, we dropped our packs and wandered upstream a short way to the Coconino pouroff. There is an impressive pit in the mud below the pouroff, indicating some big floods go through here. We also saw a Coconino boulder with very clear trackways. This amphitheater isn’t choked with brush but has some maple trees and a dripping spring. It was quite cool and pleasant. We sat below the spring for a little while listening to the drops and birds flying overhead catching bugs.

When we resumed our walk downstream, the sun began beating down. There were some nice sections of slickrock and pools in the Supai, but much less than in Rider. The bypasses were straightforward and most went on both sides. There were lots of large lizards in this section – like a foot long, not the usual 4-inch guys. One was very orange.

After reaching the junction with Bedrock Canyon, there was a longer Supai bypass that gets a little pinchy. The Redwall appeared before too long and we scoped out the upper chockstone, in case we wanted to try to scramble down. We didn’t waste much time here because the top chockstone looked too tall and the limestone too polished for a controlled descent, let alone a retreat. We also wandered up the canyon from its mouth and decided the lowest chockstone – which had a deep hole beneath – was also beyond our abilities.

We got toasty while contouring along the Redwall rim and the breeze near the river was welcome. We wandered along the benches above the beach on our way down, then set camp and continued downstream to Stanton’s Cave and Vasey’s Paradise. These were pretty neat and we were clever enough to avoid the poison ivy. I noticed a redbud tree nearby that looked like it had been gnawed by a beaver.

We had the beach to ourselves that night and left early in the morning; it had been hot on our hike in and we wanted to return to the car by early afternoon anyway. The cacti were starting to bloom. We enjoyed the shade while it lasted, which wasn’t that long. The climb from the bed to the rim took less than an hour. These shallower hikes in Marble Canyon sure can be nice.

I packed out soiled TP someone had left on the beach, and I hope that earns me some major canyon karma. However, I drew the line at packing out unburied #2. This - and any other possible exposure to norovirus - is why I like to carry soap now.
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Apr 16 2024
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South Canyon RouteNorthwest, AZ
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Shelby already posted a detailed report for this trip; I’m just adding more photos. The redwall narrows looked really cool and it appeared there might be a nontechnical way to get in on the south side further downstream of the first chockstone but we did not investigate. I would love to go back and check that section out sometime when I have more time and/or skills! I was on high alert for black widows after reading previous triplogs but didn’t see any. So many lizards though!
 
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South Canyon RouteNorthwest, AZ
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this route had it all!!! exposure, ruggedness, a cave (!), a spring (!!), ruins, a condor sighting (!!!), rafters, beach hangs, and a lovely group of leprechauns.

headed down sunday around 9am. we spent the whole day in the sun, but thankfully it wasn't too hot. i am terrified of heights/exposure, and it definitely took me over an hour to slowly make my way down the sketchy feces to the main wash. once there it was just an easy cruise towards the trail that takes you around the narrows and dumps you down to the ruins/beach. about three miles in we met a lovely group decked out in st patrick's gear (our leprechauns) who were hiking back towards the climb. they were planning to camp 1/2 up the climb on a nice ledge where they had stashed water on their way in.

once at the beach we encountered three scottsdale guys who came down the UPS route in bedrock canyon saturday. they clearly didn't have permits and didn't give any poos about the no fire rule. i hate humans sometimes.

we eventually made our way to stanton's cave and the spring. man oh man! that spring is incredible! we spent a decent amount of time there taking it all in, filling up our water, and watching some rafters go by. then we headed back to the beach where we consumed delicious beer, sat in awe of a condor flying over the canyon, and eventually watched day turn to night. it was the best.

we were up early monday morning and started hiking out about 7am. the main wash was a bit of a slog. i was really nervous about the climb out. i thought the exposure would mess with my brain, and i'd end up taking hours to get out. well, the exposure definitely messed with me, but it had me cruising up the route. i just wanted to be done. we met our leprechaun friends about 1/4 from the top, chatted with them for about 30 mins, and then exited the canyon in just under 4hrs.

we waited by the car for our new friends, and they showered us with tons of st. patrick's day gear. humans can be so wonderful!!!

i have a permit next weekend and another at the end of april, but i have a feeling those trips won't be happening due to covid-19 :cry:
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South Canyon RouteNorthwest, AZ
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I knocked out another trip to the Grand Canyon with CJ this weekend. This time we headed to South Canyon, the Nankoweap Trail and Saddle Mountain. We drove up late Friday night, as is the norm lately with us and woke up relatively early Saturday morning for our day hike of the South Canyon Route and the popular sites on the river.

Waking up at the trailhead for the South Canyon Route is a real treat. An excellent location to watch first light hit the earth. After a quick breakfast we were on the trail, or perhaps more appropriately route. The first section is steep and comes as advertised, however, it was not overly difficult with a slack pack. Especially for us, as we were coming off a full pack descent of the Salt Trail, just a couple weekends before. After the initial descent, the trail is just boulder hopping and the standard off trail Grand Canyon side canyon travel, with your obligatory bypasses. We made all the popular stops once we hit the river. Stanton's Cave was cool and fun to take pictures in and watch the boaters go by. I also enjoyed Vasey's Paradise, however, after seeing what it usually looks like when I got home, it was a little disappointing to know we basically hit it at a trickle. After Vaseys it was a to the beach for a dip in the Colorado with poison ivy scrub. Finally, after nearly three hours on the Colorado, we started to head back. The hike up may have actually been quicker than the hike down, but we both agreed we were ready for the climb after all of the dry creek bed travel.

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This is a really cool destination hike in the Grand Canyon and despite Vaseys being a trickle, I really enjoyed it. The place is a little bumping with river runners, so I don't know how much I would enjoy camping down there, but the area in general piqued my interest for the potential of a river trip one day, or at least an ambitious pack raft in that area. Although, Carrie's explanation of, "groovers" and "grooving" may have put off the prospect of a river trip by a few more years at least!
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Dec 16 2017
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South Canyon RouteNorthwest, AZ
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Backpacked the South Canyon Route with a group of 6.

Drove to the trailhead with an Xterra and Crosstrek. Road conditions were good.

The scrambling, exposure, and difficulty of the route was less than I anticipated. The route was well-cairn-ed. Route finding was definitely required, but I never felt the need to check my GPS. You are exposed to notable drop-offs, but the footing and trail width was always reasonable at these points. Salt Trail, as a point of comparison, was more difficult in my opinion.

We camped on the shelf right above the beach to avoid the sand. There was a private rafting group that set up camp on the down-stream end of the beach. They reported that they were 3 days into their trip.

We went and explored Stanton's Cave and Vasey's paradise. The footing getting out to Vasey's Paradise was a bit treacherous, fortunately the wet rock along the river was grippier than it looked.

There were a couple half-frozen pools of water right where we dropped into South Canyon. Sediment in the Colorado was minimal. Temperatures were in the 20s at night, 30s for much of our time spent hiking below the rim, and topped out in the 50s.

Overall it was a great trip. Bit chilly. The scenery was excellent and we got to explore a part of canyon that is otherwise only accessible to rafters.
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This is my third Colorado River rafting trip through the Grand Canyon. Wade and I did the same trip two years ago in 2014--a 12-day hiking-intensive rafting trip with Hatch River Expeditions. I love this trip! Wade gave this to me for my 62nd birthday. This time; however, I went alone. Wade did not want to go as he's "Been there, Done that!" I was quite worried about the weather as it was supposed to rain the majority of the time based on weather reports at Phantom Ranch. God was looking out for us as the weather was perfect! We traveled from Lee's Ferry all the way to Whitmore Wash, 188 miles down the Colorado River taking in both the Upper and Lower Canyon. These motor rigs are 35' in length and 16' wide powered by a 30-horsepower, four-stroke motor. They have two tubes on the sides with you can ride in rapids if you want a great thrill! There were only 9 passengers and three crew on the upper canyon trip. Four hiked out at the Bright Angel Trail near Phantom Ranch leaving only 5 of us to go the full 12 days. 24 people hiked down from the South Rim to meet the boats at Pipe Creek for the next 6 days. If you've never done this trip, I highly recommend saving your $$ for this trip of a life time. It's not cheap, but worth every penny if you are adventurous, love to hike fairly difficult hikes and don't mind camping on the beach every night. You'll get to HATE SAND! But, heck, it's only sand. I will write more about his trip when I edit this triplog later. Some of the hikes that I can't find links to on HAZ include Saddle Canyon, the confluence of the Little Colorado River, Miner's Camp (North Bass Trail.) I'm doing my best to keep my "being" below the rim. I'm just not ready for real life yet, but it is nice to have a hot shower!
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Thanksgiving day, five hearty explorers started down the trail built in the 1950s for use for building a dam in Marble Canyon near Redwall Cavern. The trail was easy to follow and had several switchbacks so it wasn't terribly steep. There were only a couple of spots where the trail had been washed out over the years.

Soon Josh, Carole, Kevin, Kim, and I were at bed of Shinumo Wash. We barely had to do any rock hopping before we saw cairns marking the trail that continued down canyon using benches on either side to stay out of the rocky canyon bottom.

Despite carrying 50+ lb packs, we moved quickly towards our goal, the Redwall narrows! We took a lunch break in the sun before heading into the shade at the top of the narrows.

Many people think that Redwall Limestone is actually red. When in fact it has just been stained red over the years by the red Hermit and Supai layers above it. In the narrows we observed that the red had been completely scrubbed away and left behind was a silver limestone that had been polished to a gloss. Water had craved out a beautiful path down through layers of limestone to the Coloradoy River.

Water doesn't just take a straight line to get to its destination. Instead it curves and plunges along its way. And so did we...thru the Sliver Grotto.

Our first few obstacles were some down climbs. I was happy to accept assistance from the team. I was even more happy get on rope!

The rappels nearly all landed in chilly pools! Sometimes I could touch and sometimes I had to do swimming disconnects and swim across the long frigid pool to the exit. I was very thankful for my 5 mm wetsuit! Even though it was cold I felt alive! That is the feeling that keeps me coming back for more of the pure torture of cold water Canyoneering.

We completed 4-5 rappels. Each time we would inspect the anchor to see how sound it was. There were several natural anchors. There was even a couple anchors built of climbers nuts in cracks. Overall things were in good shape and we had to replace very little gear.

The water had taken a steep descent and carved out a few slides that could be negotiated without a rope. There was no angle of repose. It was quite the opposite. No matter how much friction I could apply to the polished slide my speed seemed to accelerate to maximum velocity quickly. The ride ended with a splash in the face. If I wasn't awake already, I would have been after the cold water entered my nose!

We only took one rope so it was fun to watch each of us experience all our follies! As we watched each other we danced around to keep warm.

Finally, we came to the end of the Shiver Grotto. The freezing cold will fade from my mind sooner or later. The beauty of the narrows will always remain in my mind.

We set up camp on the beach, spreading out our wet items. Happy to be warmed by our dry clothes!

As night time came, the others ducked into their tents for the night. Nighttime reminded me of my unplanned solitude. I swore I would not let my life outside the Canyon ruin my experience inside the Canyon but I couldn't help crying.

I wandered the beach with the intent to test the inReach and to have a bit of human contact from the outside. The sky was basically the shape of a human eye. I wasn't quite sure I would be able to pop off a message but finally I found a spot and sent an update of our location. Having a trusted friend know where exactly we were was reassuring. I never want to relive waiting 18 hours for help.

In the morning, we leisurely packed up camp and inflated our rafts. We were all excited to hit the River! We paddled out into the end of a rapid. There is nothing about packrafting that can leave you a frown! We had a blast paddling. There were a few riffles and a small rapid to paddle thru. I did alright in the riffles in my trusty vessel - even if it did turn into a bathtub a couple times. Carole and I could not get the courage to take on the rapid - maybe next time! Josh managed to sneak past the worst of it. While Kevin and Kim took it head on in their Alpacas.

We arrived at South Canyon and made up our camp. Then Kevin, Kim, and I made our way via raft to Vasey's Paradise. We had a goal of trying to get to Redwall Caverns, too. We headed downstream and into faster choppy water. My raft quickly filled and I fought to keep from flipping while my raft decided to go sideways and backwards! Finally, I was thru and I saw that Kevin was towing Kim's raft and her to the shore so I cut over. I think that I had a hard time because the weight of my pack wasn't in the raft with me. We decided to forget our goal so that Kim could get warmed up before dark. We hiked back to Vasey's. Then we paddled upstream a bit to below Stanton's cave and anchored our rafts. We scrambled up to get our sexy 'silowets' ( silhouette while wearing a wetsuit) in the entrance!

As we came scrambled back to our rafts we watched the NPS rescue helicopter land on the beach. We quickly finished up our paddle upstream so we could find out what was up. We were a bit nervous as our friend, Scott, was hiking in to meet us.

Exactly a year ago, Black Friday, Joel had fallen so to see the helicopter was a bit of a pause for me. When we got back to camp Josh and Carole were talking to the rescue team and had learned that they were looking for a single hiker who was section hiking the full length of the GC who hadn't checked in. The main guy was familiar and soon we were reminiscing about last year's fated trip. Matt had been our primary contact during Joel's rescue. Sadly, he asked where Joel was and I to tell him that while he was fully recovered we not going to be together any longer. I was going to be adventuring through life without him. It was impossible not to shed a tear or two.

As evening approached we kept our eyes on the hikers route and soon we saw Scott! Karl was to have come with him but later we learned he had gotten sick.

Scott came bearing gifts! To my surprise, he had a bottle of my favorite root beer, cookies, and cheese! Carole had given him some hints. Scott was a bad-ass for carrying all that and coming down South Canyon by himself!

The next morning we packed up and then went with Scott so he could check out Vasey's and Stanton's Cave.

Before we started on our way up South Canyon, a small group of cavers came by. We learned they had spent a week underground mapping a cave! Even more surprising I learned that the leader is the same person I will do a trip in the Bob Marshall with this coming summer. We had been Facebook friends for a few months and exchanged communications but had never met. What a coincidence!

We started our way out South Canyon. The hiker's route was extremely steep in places with some class 3 scrambling with our heavy packs. Watching Josh go with the rope made me not complain about my load. Not complaining was quite a feat when you consider that us canyoneers each had a wetsuit, packraft, PFD, paddles, harness ladened with hardware, helmet, and most of the usual cold weather backpacking gear.

The weight of my pack was offset by the beautiful views of South Canyon all around. As we traversed above the narrows, we could peer down and see the amazing power of water!

The plan was to stop half way near some pools for the night. Scott had already scouted out a campsite on his way down. Lucky for me, Scott likes slick rock camps so it was exactly what I hoped for!

With the slick rock there was no way for me to adequately anchor my tarp. It hasn't rained all trip so I was hoping my luck would hold. My plan was to just drape my tarp over my sleeping bag if it rained. If it rained really bad then I could move my bag to a small spot under an overhang.

We hung out in camp and had the traditional sharing of all of our extra food. Then we made up hot water bottles to prepare for what was going to be a cold night. Unfortunately, it started to rain/snow. I hope it would stop but finally I had to give up and get in bed. The hot water bottle definitely kept me warm especially with the tarp laying over top of me. I drifted in and out of restless sleep. Finally, the roar of quiet made me realize it had stopped raining so I turned down my tarp so I could let the amazing amount of condensation under the tarp escape. My EMS 0 degree down bag performed admirably at keeping me dry and warm.

The last morning was by far the coldest. We could see ice on some of the shallow pools as we made our breakfast.

Our goal was to have lunch at Marble Canyon Lodge as we were jonesing for Green Chili Stew so we headed towards the Rim! Before the big climb out of the canyon we had a water and snack break. Then we started the scramble up.

Route finding going up was fairly straight forward. There were several climbs that seemed like it would be pretty scary if one was going down the trail. There was a couple times I needed either a spot or a knee in order to make it up with my bum shoulder.

As we climbed I kept track of the layers of the Canyon. When I saw Kaibab Limestone, I knew we were nearly to the top!

When we came out on top of the Rim, I was stunned, as usual, by how flat the Rim can be. I can imagine how the first humans who saw the Grand Canyon would have felt traveling along what seems to be a vast flat surface to suddenly see it plunge over the edge into rugged canyons and cliffs.

We piled our packs on top of Scott's FJ and the six of us squeezed in. We headed towards a satisfying lunch before completing our car shuttle and then long drive home.

This trip reminds me how important friends are. Without a great team of friends this trip wouldn't have been possible!
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Oct 29 2015
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Jamie needed to place his thru hike cache at the river so he, his hiking buddy Nate and i all set off around 9am to dayhike So. can.

Freezing up top, really, it was 32° at the jeep!
So we shed layers like mad as we descended the Kaibab break.
That's a pretty cute little break too!!

I spotted a nearly mummified bighorn, played with a tarantula and upon reaching the river I stayed up high and explored all the arch sites.
We barely spent an hour at the river, just enough to for the guys to place their caches and take a breather.

On our way back the rain, which had been constant yet quite tame since we began our hike, took a turn and we received the occasional downpour.

The best, or worst depends how you look at it, downpour came pummeling down on us just as we reached the head of the creek and began our ascent through Coco and Kaibab.

Soaking wet!! I had to use my rain shell to cover my pack and my fingers and lips were turning purple by the time we reached the trailhead.

That was a fun little dayhike.
Odd though, I recall some hiking folk once describing So. Can. as "brutal" and "rugged"... It was a cake walk to day hike...but to each their own.
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Well it was amazing. This was one of the most fun adventures I've had in the GC. We camped at the car on Friday night to get a nice early start on Saturday. There was quite a bit of water in the drainage as we made our way down. Most of it was dried up by the time we left Sunday so it must've rained quite recently. This route is about 20% hiking, 20% rock climbing and the rest scrambling over boulders. I made it to Stanton's cave, Vasey's paradise (where I filtered water), and Redwall cavern (where I got a ride across the river in a raft with two naked girls). There was a river party living it up at Redwall cavern. There were 12 ladies and 10 guys and they were all completely naked, drinking beer, smoking weed, dancing to music, and sliding down a makeshift slip n slide into the river. It was quite the experience. My hiking buddy Mark got a little ill on the way down so when we made it to camp he just chilled there (and missed the nudity). We hiked out in about 6 hours on Sunday. We took my car to save gas but unfortunately the last mile to the trailhead is not suitable for passenger cars so we had to walk an extra mile each way.

It is in my top three favorite GC adventures now

Here is a video of the trip: https://www.youtube.co...
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Second day, rainy and snowy backpack out.
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Feb 21 2015
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Day one descent to South Canyon, Stanton's Cave and Vasey's Paradise.
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Short hike up to an Anasazi ruin with some nice pictographs along the way. Great views of the River below.
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Super fun and relatively easy canyoneering trip in the Grand Canyon. And by easy I mean the technical aspect only, as nothing is really ever easy in the GC!

Camped at South Canyon TH Friday night to stage the car and hiked from there to drop into Bedrock canyon Saturday morning. Bedrock started out pretty mellow but soon began dropping quickly with lots of boulder-hopping and some challenging downclimbs. The geology seemed to change every few minutes and included some pretty sweet narrows. We jumped the chute at the end of the narrows but I would recommend a belay here. :scared: Before long we were at the confluence of South Canyon, where we took the backpacker's route over the dryfall and then stayed in the creek bed for the boulder hop down to the narrows. The redwall narrows of South Canyon were pretty short but very scenic with more good downclimbing. The last chockstone drop had an anchor already set up, and I have to give major props to anyone who can actually downclimb that beast(the log ramp mentioned in Todd Martin's book is gone). Was definitely glad to be wearing a wetsuit as the water in there was extremely cold, although over quickly. Made it to the beach around 2pm where we checked out the Stanton's Cave and Vasey's Paradise (thoroughly enjoyed both). Dirtbagged it that night out under the stars next to the Colorado with the almost-full moon above us. Had some crazy dreams which always seems to happen when sleeping below the rim.

Sunday morning we packed up and headed up South Canyon back to the car. The wind was pretty brutal and made that final push up to the rim extra exciting. What a view from up there, just breathtaking. It was an awesome trip with such a great group. We saw not a single other person the entire trip which was an added bonus. Love this big hole in the ground more and more every trip!!
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As I type this, I am sitting in a hotel ballroom in San Diego. It’s a work conference and I am wearing gym shorts and a tshirt because it would be impossible for me to get a pair of slacks and a real shirt on. I’m cracked out on Benedryl and it takes just two applications for me to empty a tube of hydrocortisone cream. People are looking at me as if I’m a leper! :scared:

You see, I did some research after this hike and learned that the word “vasey” (as in Vasey’s Paradise) isn’t really some guy’s name, but is actually an old Navajo word meaning plant of the red death. Modern linguists interpret its historical definition to mean what we now know of as poison ivy. This is a very rare plant in the Grand Canyon, and it never occurred to me to look for it. It is also spring, and the plant was leafless, making its identification even less likely. :(

And my body is covered. Arms and legs, stomach and chest. Fingers, ears, and neck. Somehow my back was spared, so I’ve got that going for me. I'd upload a photo of my body but I swear I get a little ill when I look in the mirror (yes, I realize I invited all kinds of comments here!)

So, if you ever go here, learn from me. Don’t climb to the top of the falls, seeing the source up close is not worth it!

Luckily, the allergic reaction to poison ivy doesn’t usually occur for a day or two, so the trip itself was great!

The route down to the canyon bottom is not for the faint of heart or inexperienced. It involves a few climbs and hands are required extensively. Once in the canyon, the going is easier, but still slow due to the bouldered terrain and lack of actual trail. After 6.5 miles you reach the river, where a beautiful beach and secluded camping area await.

I managed to procure a few beers from a rafting party that stopped at the beach for a while before setting off downstream once again.
The gate at Stanton’s cave is huge, and a marvel of engineering. Vasey’s paradise is a beautiful area but like a kid at the museum, look but don’t touch!!

Spent a fun night with the crew before getting a good night’s resr and hiking out in the morning. Surprisingly the ascent took the same amount of time as the descent, probably because there was no way to go fast downhill.

Good to see Larry and his 65lb pack again, and to inaugurate Rachel (and her 5lb pack) and of course Bootsie. Thanks to 9L for doing all the planning and legwork.

The ride home featured the requisite stop at Nimarcos for pizza and wings, and a lot of sleepy, drooly passengers.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I gotta try to contact my doctor again. I need some steroids, stat.
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Mar 30 2013
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58 male
 Joined Apr 04 2002
 Flagstaff, AZ
South Canyon RouteNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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squatpukeTriplogs 186
Backpack15.00 Miles 3,497 AEG
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Amazing hike and backpack. As always, 9L adventures don't disappoint, either in difficulty or in good times - of course it helps to have Chumley along to harass and goad.

I did minimal research on the actual hike, spending most of my study time around the cultural areas of interest at the river - Vasey's, Stanton's Cave, Ruins and mystery "skeleton". There really is a LOT to see/explore at this location and for those brave enough and fit enough to get to the beach, this becomes a fantastic Grand Canyon adventure.

Speaking of getting there...it's a crazy steep trail...errr route.

We car-camped Friday night for a semi-early start on Saturday. The evening was very cool (almost "cold) yet still filled with fun and fire. Our resident bun-warmer (Longo), demonstrated and solicited his infamous "butt-coal" technique which actually proved quite effective (see photo #1). Rachel was carbo-loading and annihilated my bag of pretzels while Chumley and Kyle were their usual witty selves.

Early Saturday, we all seemed mentally tense (or maybe just hung-over) as we prepared for what we knew would be a serious trek; except, that is, our reposed marathoner Rachel, who was calmly "dry-shampooing" her hair with some flowery aerosol product. Once packed and ready, we launched past the trail-head sign and headed for the rim...you know you're in for a rough day when you need a cairn to mark the start of the route OFF THE RIM. SHEESH.

I quickly learned of the futility of trek poles. After the second down-climb, away they went - continuing to use them would have SEVERELY slowed me down. The first 45 minutes of this route is very PRECIPITOUS. I was using BOTH my hands and feet, easily 50% of the time. Once at the bottom, the route doesn't get much better. Many down-climbs (one in particular was a bit extreme and required removing my pack) and exposed areas made for a mentally as well as physically demanding hike.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCYQLjEwDYQ - - The group's initial descent...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM7ex6r8ld4 - - Squatpuke at the "tough" part
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJMzi5AcFBk - - Boots at the "tough" part
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYGs7HB6RI4 - - 9L ascends that section with ease


The long, 4+ mile stretch of down-canyon boulder hopping and walk-arounds is finally concluded at the top of the "Narrows" where the traditional route CLIMBS back up the redwall several hundred feet. There are still several exposed area along this top-route and one must remain mentally sharp or risk becoming a statistic.

Finally, on top of the redwall, you come to a wonderful view point of the Colorado River and in the far distance, Vasey's Paradise. Don't high five your companions yet, there still is a bit of nasty down climbing to the sandy beaches below.

The beach scene for us was pretty awesome....clean, wide, sandy beaches...cool, clear river water and boaters handing out beer...(and almost a free dinner). The Colorado was ICY cold but I was still able to clean off the day's grime with a few 30-60 second speed baths....After the initial boater excitement, Chumley relaxed on the beach with a book while John and Rachel cat-napped. Restless Boots and I, laced back up and headed downstream to see the sites.

Stanton's Cave was no big deal, but very interesting nonetheless. Vasey's was indeed a paradise!! The hike over to Vasey's includes a very slick slope that must be cautiously traversed...one misstep and you risk a 5' slide into a fast rapid. (this time, my hiking poles definitely would have been useful had I bothered to bring them...LOL.) Kyle and I baby-stepped our way across making sure each foot was solid before the next...was slow going, but VERY worth it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXkyY7gnbgo - - Boots goes first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0eLKjkoaXo - - His Return Back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccOmj-l6UXw - - Chumley and Rach attempt...Where's 9L??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy8OsUyqVmk - - Vasey's Paradise

I explored around the waterfall as Kyle killed the microbes his water. When we headed back up river, John, Rachel and Todd were on their way over from the Cave. We exchanged insults and Kyle and I continued upriver, exploring the areas above the beaches for ruins and art.

Evening fell as we all ate dinner, sharing spoons as needed (:D). I went off to pee on the rock wall around the corner from camp and counted several black widows along the cracks. I reported my findings and we all cautiously looked around our campsite; 9L was reclining (on a hijacked Ridgerest no-less) where we spotted a widow about a foot or two from his head!! :o (I was later told by a doctor friend that many a scrotum had been attacked by black widows in those old wooden outhouses...YIKES)

Needless to say, we regrouped in the middle of the beach and counted stars and satellites until exhaustion got the best of us...I'd say around 9pm!!

Next morning, we filtered more river, ate a quick breakfast and geared up. It was clear that I was the 'weak link' in our party, however that morning I felt very strong and kept up with the group all the way back to Boulder Canyon junction. Things were going fairly well till we hit our water cache just below the initial STEEP section. Kyle and I were mentally regretting this moment since we first came down, but with one foot in front of the other and some motivational mantras, we made it back to the top just as Chumley was cashing his first Social Security check... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ieRCqLyH_E - - Squat's heart-attack..."aye aye aye"..hehe

This was indeed a great trip with awesome people and a very exciting location. I would have liked to have stayed another night and day-hiked to Redwall Cavern the 2nd day....maybe next time!!

Rachel...welcome to the group...nice job "putting up" with us!! :)
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My first backpacking adventure! Decided to start off with an easy one... :]
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 Phoenix, AZ
South Canyon RouteNorthwest, AZ
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This was one heck of a backpacking trip. Thanks to 9L for setting this up and Chumley for driving!

We drove up on Friday and picked up Larry in Flagstaff. We finished the long drive and finally made it to the trailhead after dark. We sat around the fire, had a few beers with some nice butt coals, and went to bed.

Woke up early on Saturday in no rush and headed down South Canyon. As we descended that first loose, precarious, and insanely steep first half mile I tried not to think about climbing back up it with 30+ pounds on my back. I put it out of my mind as best I could and made it to the canyon floor.

South Canyon is not so impressive at first but as you move further and further down, it turns pretty spectacular. Some stretches are quick to move through and some are pretty slow going and you even get a few climbs not so easily done with a full pack on.

We eventually hit the Colorado which was cold and clear. I could actually treat the water with just my steripen with no sediment problem. That was unexpected.

We set up camp, had a couple beers, checked out out the river crew floating through. Chumley talked them out of a few more beers for us and they headed on their way.

Everyone else wanted to relax a little longer so Larry and I headed out downstream to see the sights. We checked out Stanton's Cave which wasn't anything too amazing and then headed to Vasey's Paradise. Vasey's is pretty spectacular but took some daring to get to. You have to slowly work across a slick sludge covered area that will send you sliding instantly into the Colorado River if you happen to slip.

We hung around at Vasey's for a bit and I purified some water. We started heading back and could see the other three on their way to Stanley's. We decided to wait for them so we could hear them sputter and possibly fall into the river. They finally made their way over and there were no casualties-- although a certain member of our crew really had to be talked into crossing the slick area :sl:

Larry and I headed back towards camp and hiked above the camping area to check out the ruins. There are multiple sets and some really cool petroglyphs to see. We lounged around for the rest of the day. I took a short nap on the beach which was pretty nice and then we sat around with the stars overhead. At some point, Larry realized the camp area was pretty much infested with black widows and much of the rest of the evening was spent watching 9L combing the rock walls for these beasts.

We woke up and broke camp the next day. There were some filter issues getting water that were overcome and then we headed out. The first part of the hike out was crazy steep and in full sun. Eventually we fell into the shade of the canyon and trudged along dreading that final climb out-- almost 1,100 ft. in about half a mile :scared: . We took our time and slogged, scrambled, and climbed our way out. That hike kicked my butt.

This was an awesome overnight and well worth the effort :)
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Spent the weekend with a great group on a wild ride down the South Canyon Route! We departed Phoenix on Friday afternoon and picked up Larry in Flag and made our way to the trailhead. We enjoyed a nice campfire and turned in for the night.

We woke Saturday morning and took our time getting breakfast and packing up our gear. Shortly afterward we started making our descent. Right from the get go you start making the scramble-down climb. The going is very steep and our pace was slow & cautious. The route is well marked and there were obvious signs of recent foot traffic. We continued down and reached the creek bottom in roughly 40 minutes. From there we made our way down canyon. Some sections are slow as you scramble over and around boulders while other sections make for fast travel where the canyon is wide open. We stopped for a break at roughly the half way point and then proceeded down. There are a few minor down climbs along the way that slow progress but nothing is overwhelming. The last obstacle is right above the river through a break in the Redwall. You have to down climb and the loaded packs made it a little more difficult. After that we found ourselves on the beach and began setting up camp.

The rest of Saturday was spent relaxing and exploring. We made our way to Stanton’s Cave and Vasey’s Paradise. VP was very cool and I brought home a souvenir in the form of Poison Ivy! Besides that some rafters stopped for a bit and kindly gave us a handful of beer. They departed soon after and we had the area to ourselves the rest of the night. Later that evening Larry discovered Black Widows along the wall and we then spent some time looking for them. I would guess we found at least twenty in a little over ten minutes. They are beautiful and nasty looking at the same time. We spent the evening enjoying some cold beverages (The Colorado did an excellent job keeping the beer cold). We also did some star gazing in which we saw several shooting stars. Life was good!

Sunday arrived and we had breakfast and spent some time pumping water directly from the Colorado. The water was flowing clear and had minimal silt in it. After that we packed up and then made the ascent back to the rim. We spaced out a bit on the hike out but always regrouped for a quick break. The final climb back to the rim was a grind but went by quick. From there we loaded up our gear and made our way back to Phoenix. The real highlight of the trip was stopping for wings at NiMarco’s. Those golden bbq are something special!

This was another amazing trip! South Canyon is a dream and a must do for anyone looking for a challenge. The going can be slow and painful but it was worth it! Put this on your list if you love scrambling and down climbing and camping with Black Widows!
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 Jackson, CA
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Tough, fun day to a worthy destination at Vasey's. I sure would like to explore inside Stanton's cave. The lower Redwall narrows section is decent but nothing spectacular, with several good chockstone problems and a few cold but short swims and wades.
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