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Mazatzal Divide Trail to Knob Mountain - 10 members in 18 triplogs have rated this an average 3.2 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Dec 26 2020
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Red Hills AZT loop, AZ 
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
Run/Jog23.07 Miles 5,180 AEG
Run/Jog23.07 Miles   6 Hrs   55 Mns   3.38 mph
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One of those days when we decided on a route after leaving home. Set off from Doll Baby TH, for either a Bull Springs Cabin ONB or Red Hills loop. One of my friends hadn't been to the ruins yet, so we took a little side trip. Before we hit AZT, I saw a route on my map that I thought could be a shortcut; when it appeared to be heading up Bullfrog Ridge before hitting AZT, we decided to just head back down to the trail. Waste of 20 minutes or so, but gotta make it fun somehow.

At the Brush Trail junction, we decided on the loop. Brush Spring was a nice area with good camping, but dry. We blew right by the Red Hills trail junction, which I realized when it started dropping down the west side. Turns out the AZT takes a hard left, and the sign is obscured by a tree when you're heading from Brush Trail. Bonus mile I guess.

Red Hills trail was nice, the upper part of Boardinghouse Canyon was pretty.

Drop down Mazatzal Divide trail was fun, cruised a lot of the way. Got back to the car right at sunset.

dry Boardinghouse Canyon Dry Dry
Some frozen pools in one of the upper arms along Red Hills Trail, otherwise dry.

dry Brush Spring Dry Dry
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North Peak Loop, AZ 
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LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking19.53 Miles 4,969 AEG
Hiking19.53 Miles   7 Hrs   24 Mns   2.83 mph
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I did this loop without the summit in May on a trip to The Park and Pete's Pond. Long wait through the endless summer to have another go. Assuming I couldn't make the drive to Mineral Creek TH, I built the summit into the loop from City Creek TH. Went counterclockwise for a more gradual ascent.

Started on the northern end of the Mazatzal Divide Trail. Best stretch the 3 miles of leveling off after the Red Hills jct 6 miles in. Good shape the whole way to The Park. Didn't take the extra time to saunter that way or down to Pete's Pond.

I found North Peak Trail to be in better shape on the upper end than it seemed in the spring. Had an easier time finding the grade, and there were more ribbons and cairns than I remembered. Still in rough shape. Eventually turned off the trail toward North Peak when it seemed like less of a bushwhack. Bumped back into the trail where it descends down the side of the mountain and left it once again.

I took the ridge from the trail to the saddle SW of North Peak. It was much clearer than expected and about a moderate bushwhack. It is quite steep, however. Small stands of pines survived on the saddle and higher on the ridge. Was about 12 miles to the summit the way I came. Tenth Mazzie summit and to me the views are as good as any in the range shy of Mazatzal Peak or the Four Peaks.

Went down the ridge to the NW. This route is more traveled, and I'd think the way most folks are getting up is using the NW ridge from Mineral Creek TH. Also not such a bad bushwhack with a little, avoidable scrambling.

North Peak Trail down to the trailhead is steep and slippery but all things considered is in good shape. A little water flowing in Mineral Creek.

Connected the two trailheads again with Pollow Hollow. Had an easier time than in May and followed more of the track than the creek. Travels through the longest bit of forest on the route. Got back as the clouds were rolling in and didn't see anyone on the day.

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Only by Spring, no water on lower side

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Dec 09 2018
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Mazatzal Divide Trail to Knob MountainPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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MountainMattTriplogs 530
Hiking12.78 Miles 3,139 AEG
Hiking12.78 Miles   7 Hrs   13 Mns   2.32 mph
3,139 ft AEG   1 Hour   42 Mns Break35 LBS Pack
 
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Elevation gain, expansive views and satisfied legs.
Sunny skies, a cool breeze and prefect temperatures made hiking here a true treat!
Frost was found in the shade and tucked away corners along with rich wet soil.

Stopped just past the Red Hill junction and had lunch on some cool rock outcroppings overlooking the appealing pine forest down below.

Going down was a breeze and the whole experience of hiking on a properly maintained trail was such a pleasure and relief from what I’ve been doing lately.
Made it back to the truck just after dark and didn’t encounter another human all day, just peace and quiet in the Mazzies.

My adventure buddy was recovering from idiopathic vestibular issues aka old dog syndrome (loss or balance/coordination) the past couple weeks so to see her do 5 miles on Saturday and another 13 on this hike like a champ made my heart full :)
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Pools seen in the bedrock most likely from recent storm water.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Plenty of filterbale pools from recent storms but no water from actual spring source itself.
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Mazatzal Divide Trail to Knob MountainPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
Hiking13.82 Miles 3,168 AEG
Hiking13.82 Miles   5 Hrs   28 Mns   2.77 mph
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one of the best things about haz is the ideas you get from other people, this one courtesy of @hikerdw
john and i have been looking for new hikes and had not done anything in the area
got to city creek trailhead and started hiking up the divide trail a little before 0700
cool at first, but a steady grade uphill made layers unnecessary
the trail is in great condition = mostly good footing and very little catclaw
the middle miles went through an exposed burn area
without route scout and just recording on my gps, we were not sure which high point was knob mountain
figured it out, though, and had a snack at the top
john was able to confirm with his phone
not much of a mountain, but i'm counting the peak since i only have three new ones for the year :lol:
heading down as the wind came up, our view much of the time was the tinder fire blowing up :o
not good
as david mentioned, the road is in good condition with just one short rutted area
john bought lunch at a thai restaurant in payson afterwards - good food, thank you :)
not the most scenic hike, but a new trail in a new area with good company - nice
aeg seems a little high
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Mazatzal Divide Trail to Knob MountainPayson, AZ
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johnlpTriplogs 5,208
Hiking13.82 Miles 3,168 AEG
Hiking13.82 Miles   5 Hrs   28 Mns   2.77 mph
3,168 ft AEG      29 Mns Break
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First time hiking in the northern Mazzies for both of us. We flushed a large white raptor on the ascent. Probably a ferruginous hawk. By process of elimination, we figured out where Knob Mountain was and hit the high point. The Divide trail has a steady incline through the steep brushy mountains. Well constructed. The Mazzies are big and bold. Didn't see another person all day.
Good hike. Thanks Kelly. :)
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Apr 21 2018
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Mazatzal Divide Trail to Knob MountainPayson, AZ
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hikerdwTriplogs 541
Hiking13.87 Miles 2,800 AEG
Hiking13.87 Miles   5 Hrs   37 Mns   2.81 mph
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First time hiking from the City Creek TH. The drive in was smooth, mostly paved with the exception of 2 short dirt sections. The hike up was very nice, a steady climb but at a very hiker friendly grade. Once up top we took in the views and had our traditional lunch break. On the hike down you are really able to take in the sights and since you are now hiking downhill it was easy to get moving at a quicker than normal pace and lose your footing. I took one fall and almost another before forcing myself to intentional slow down at my normal hiking pace.

Wildlife sightings were 1 bull snake and 2 white-tail deer.

We will definitely be hiking from this location again :D
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City Creek Loop, AZ 
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Hiking18.41 Miles 4,297 AEG
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1st trip
Snuck out from fatherly duties to knock out a quick loop in the Mazzies. Yay for ditching responsibilities!

Pole Hollow Canyon
As far as connectors go, this one is solid. An old two-track runs along the length of the wash, so there's always the choice between walking the sandy/gravel creekbed or overgrown road. There is plenty of deadfall so I switched between the two frequently. Not sure how much foot traffic this gets, as I didn't see any recent tracks yet there were a few paths trod around some of deadfall. Anyways, water was flowing from the spring. Once I passed that things dried up.

North Peak Trail
Is way more enjoyable than I thought it would be. The first mile played in and out of Mineral Creek and then the climb hit. Steep enough to get the heart pounding, short enough to not outlive its welcome. And big views the whole way - not quite Rock Creek level, but close. Above the climb has been recently trimmed, sometime in the last year or so, and I didn't have any difficulty until the camp on 6178. Manzanita and deadfall took over the path, and while someone had tied pretty pink markers along the path and even knocked down a few bushes, I still lost it and wandered aimlessly in the wash for a bit. Had to use GPS to get back and make it to The Park relatively unbloodied.

Pete's Pond makes for a great lunch spot. Although it has a game cam now, so I guess no midnight skinny dipping for the campers.

Mazatzal Divide Trail
Bumped into the first (and only other) hiker of the day near Wet Bottom on my way out of Pete's Pond. Then it was solo hiking up a new stretch of the Mazzie Divide for me, up and down and up and down. It was a fun, if somewhat tiring, journey to and over Knob Mountain. Every creek crossing was flowing which was pretty cool. Oh, and that cluster of pines just south of Knob was clutch. The descent after AZT fork was gentle enough to only tweak my knee a half-dozen times and long enough to get a bit tedious near the end.

On an aside, used a new piece of equipment this hike: inReach Explorer+. Wife and I have been discussing me using a satellite communicator after an incident in early '16, and with some of my planned outings this year she finally put the foot down. It performed well for communication, so-so as a GPS tracker. Had hooked Route Scout as a backup and it worked admirably. As it usually does.

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City Creek Trail Mazatzal Divide South, AZ 
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Hiking18.60 Miles 4,975 AEG
Hiking18.60 Miles   11 Hrs   21 Mns   2.15 mph
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A lot of work to do 3.3 miles of the Arizona Trail, But that has been true for all the portions of Arizona Trail in the Mazatzal Mountains (If you are just doing day hikes). Well worth the hike, this is the second time doing the City Creek Trail and I still found it worth it. This time the water was plentiful along both the City Creek and the Arizona Trail. The City Creek Trail is well maintained and easy hiking (for an uphill climb) because there are not a lot of rocky steps, trail is pretty smooth.
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Mar 04 2016
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Mazatzal Divide to The ParkPayson, AZ
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Hiking23.50 Miles 4,500 AEG
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Pretty nice loop from City Creek trailhead - up MD #23 to The Park, down North Peak to Mineral Creek trailhead, then back north down Pole Hollow Canyon to the start. The climb up MD #23 is excellent, with good trail and big views (but zero shade, start early). Unfortunately the first two miles of North Peak trail leaving The Park are sheer misery - faint, heavily overgrown, downed trees, etc. Thankfully some kind soul has hung literally hundreds of red ribbons to mark the way through the manzanita jungle. Things improve greatly as you head down the ridge, but it will take a major effort to restore the upper section. Pole Hollow Canyon works nicely to connect the trailheads - generally easy hiking either down in the drainage or up on the bench on either side. Also did a side out-and-back from The Park south to Hopi Spring.

Water along the trails:
Plenty of flow in City Creek at the trailhead.
Light flow in Wet Bottom Creek just south of The Park.
Trickles from Hopi Spring.
Light flow in Mineral Creek below the spring.
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Mazatzal Divide Trail to Knob MountainPayson, AZ
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After a beautiful and peaceful night of car-camping at the City Creek TH, I joined a fun group of folks from the TLC Hiking meetup group for a hike to the summit of Knob Mountain via the Mazatzal Divide Trail. I’d read up on the hike details several months prior but did not re-read it before doing this hike… let’s just say, the HAZ Description is very well written and right on! The “dominating” and rather intimidating [given the snow cover] views of North Peak / large neighboring peaks definitely had me fooled right up to the turn-off for unofficial trail that leads to the summit of Knob Mountain.

As for the summit views, I couldn’t agree more with the way they are described, “not impressive.” It’s definitely one of the few times I can remember where the summit views were not the best views of the hike; however, since the views en route to the summit were much better than expected, it was definitely worthwhile.

Speaking of the summit, this was also one of the few times were it seemed that either Route Scout was off [in terms of identifying the highpoint] OR the official point is different than the high point. The first point in question [which everyone agreed was the actual highpoint] is about a half mile from the official trail, as noted in the description. However, the icon on Route Scout showed the summit to be the other prominent point about a half mile after that. Our group continued to that point, [where we encountered a large pile of boulders located exactly where my track overlapped with the summit icon]; however, once there, everyone agreed that the prominent point closer to the trail was definitely the highpoint. A few of us took a good several minutes looking for registers in both places but we couldn’t find any.

On the way back, [as shown by my GPS tracks], I got bit by the bushwhacking bug. Originally I pulled my classic, ‘hypotenuse vs. two sides’ shortcut to catch up with the group after they pulled away while I was sidetracked looking for the register… but the five minutes [or less] of off-trail didn’t cut it. A few minutes later, I was off again, initially intending to take another shortcut… but having enough fun that I decided to take my time and enjoy things. About mid-way back during my long off-trail segment, I ended up in this sweet drainage with solid boulders and many small beautiful waterfalls that were flowing lightly. It would have been awesome to ride this drainage to the bottom, [which was my plan initially when I first located it and checked my tracks on the Route Scout topo]… however, I literally got brushed out towards the bottom and had to change course.

Trust me when I say, “NO DICE!” to riding out this drainage without the likes of a machete [or full out chainsaw]. I was preparing to test the waters and blast my body through a thicket of cat-claw like vegetation to see if the brush would let up further downstream. Fortunately, just prior to doing so, two of my fingers graze the thorns on this shrub, resulting in two small but relatively deep scratches. Full contact would’ve been a bloody nightmare to say the least, likely resulting in nothing less that full out gouges. In fact, later that night, I couldn’t figure out why one of my scratches was causing so much soreness when I’m normally not fazed by superficial stuff like that. After soaking in the Jacuzzi, what I thought had been dirt that was lodged in the deepest part of the scratch proved to be the head of a thorn. Talk about a real piece of work to remove…!

Boxed out by Mother Nature, I jumped out of the drainage and continued to contour ridges for what seemed like an eternity before I finally had enough and decided to work my way back over to the trail. Sans the million and one varieties of cacti I’m accustomed to in Southern AZ, I had a little too much fun barreling through vegetation instead of picking my way around it, most of which included Manzanita and some other thorny shrub that was not sharp enough to penetrate my trusty bushwhacking pants. Let’s just say, by the time I got back to Southern AZ later that night, my shins sort of looked like the outcome of a skateboarding stunt gone wrong!
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Mazatzal Divide Trail to Knob MountainPayson, AZ
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,411
Hiking14.50 Miles 3,540 AEG
Hiking14.50 Miles   6 Hrs   52 Mns   2.19 mph
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Another weekend Tracey had off so where do we go? Somewhere new to us, somewhere cooler, and you know, somewhere with a trail.

Under the gun again (as usual, waiting until the night before) I picked an area at that may fit the bill, popped a bunch of trails into Route Manager, downloaded them to HAZ Tracks and packed up the Jeep.

Just a quick drive up 87 to Payson, out Doll Baby Road to Dolly Baby trailhead, pitched out tent 1/4 mile from the trailhead, then drove back to City Creek trailhead and hit the trail. While Tracey had demanded a trail, she said nothing about AEG.
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Once up at the saddle just east of the summit Tracey reminded me of the must-be-a-trail dictate so I was on my own to the summit. And so I got to do a bunch of wandering while on the round-trip to the summit. I love wandering as that's when I usually make the interesting finds, in this case, as rusted McLeod. (see the photoset if you have no idea what that is)

A great hike to get Tracey out of the doldrums and stresses of work. I've got enough stress just planning these things. ;)

Knob Mountain summit panorama
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Mazatzal Divide to The ParkPayson, AZ
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Threw together a last minute backpacking loop - did this because Chumley/FOTG's triplogs were the only recent backpacking trips close enough to town.

The park is nice, Pete's pond is cloudy/silty, but a good source. Surprisingly it was about 45-50 degrees at sundown but warmed up to about 60 at midnight to 6AM and dropped back down to 45 around sunrise.

Finished the MDT by trekking out to the Rock creek Trail/Hopi Spring. Some of these areas of the Mazatzals are actually recovering from the fire, but are still decades away from full restoration. Back to camp to pack up and head down the North Peak trail. The first two miles of this trail are pretty terrible. The last 2 to the trailhead are more reasonable. Thanks to Hank and Chris for posting the GPS as I needed it at one point where the trail does the most illogical detour. Neither of the trails has much repeat value.

The mineral creek area is nice but the creek dried up before reaching the trailhead. Favorite part of the trip was seeing a herd of javelina while walking the shortcut back to the car.

dry City Creek Dry Dry

dry Hopi Spring Dry Dry
I did not see any water in the vicinity of the spring.

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It is flowing nicely near the spring but dries up quickly flowing down the canyon.

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The pool is silty and clogs filters but tastes fine.

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There are some pools in this canyon, a few of which look to be of good quality.
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Red Hills - AZT #24Payson, AZ
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Nick and I set out from City Creek and headed up the Mazy Divide Trail. I love this hike because the views on the way up just seem to get better and better. North Peak looked particularly impressive and inviting.

Once we intersected the Arizona Trail we turned onto the Red Hills section and started making our way towards our destination which was LF Ranch. We had pre-arranged to have dinner and stay the night there. From there we would continue on to passage 25 and 26 in the morning. The journey and the company was a great. The destination turned out to be fantastic as well. Upon arrival there was a note from Mary Ann (Ranch Owner) that she had a flat tire up the road and had to go retrieve some perishable items from the truck. The dogs greeted us and welcomed us in.

We checked things out a bit and shortly thereafter she arrived on her quad. She offered us a cold beer and was very kind and accommodating. LF Ranch is nothing fancy (in fact quite the opposite) but it is peaceful and Mary Ann made us feel right at home. A bit later she cooked us up some hamburgers and delicious corn on the cob. Nick had three ears and I had two. We each ate 2 burgers and had a couple 7-UPs. After dinner she joined us for a bit and we did a some stargazing. It's amazing how much you can see without the city lights.

Nick took a warm shower and after a bit we turned in. CC the dog guarded the bunk house door and always let us know she was close by with her snoring. In the morning before departing we would have an amazing breakfast and coffee. This cost us $40 a piece. Twenty for the stay and ten per meal. It was a bargain and we made a new friend with Mary Ann and several new friends with her animals.
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fricknaleyTriplogs 4,124
Hiking16.30 Miles 4,240 AEG
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beauty of a hike with jj. we went up the mazzy divide to red hills. this was a tough climb in the brutal heat but had very rewarding views on the way up. i was surprised by the red hills stretch shortly thereafter, very nice trees and little canyons/draws. super nice!

we descended down to LF Ranch as the sun was starting to set. met up with Mary Ann and her cast of merry characters and had ourselves an outright good old time staying the night there. She had dinner with us and chatted, while we learned about the area and all her hilarious pets and animals running around. great day and especially great night on the AZT :y:
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Mazatzal Divide Trail to Knob MountainPayson, AZ
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Friday forecast was good so I took the day off. I went up Maz Divide to Knob Mtn and off trail along the ridge to Red Hills trail. This is the old route shown on old topos, saw a few cairns. I found an old firefighter rake and an old campsite. From here I took Red Hills back up and then down MDT. The area is recovering a bit. Saw a buzzworm, a deer and a gopher snake.
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Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 17 2009
GrasshopperTriplogs 578
Hiking13.90 Miles 3,732 AEG
Hiking13.90 Miles   10 Hrs   20 Mns   1.35 mph
3,732 ft AEG
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1st trip
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topohiker
I joined topohiker today for what was planned to be a continuation of his May'08 hike (ref: his hike description-"Mazatzal Divide TH to Wet Bottom Creek"). We started southwest of Payson at the Mineral Springs TH on North Peak TR#24. This TR24 has a published distance of 3.5mls one way to end at the Mazatzal Divide TR#23. We were looking forward to hiking this new trail(for us) with hopes of covering a few additional miles south on TR23 before needing to turn around and head back the way we came in.

The last posted HAZ triplog for this North Peak TR was in Dec'05 and did not sound pretty. It has now been an additional 3+ years since an update and 4+ years since the devastating "Willow Fire" in Aug'04 which pretty much took out most of this area and a majority of the Mazatzal Wilderness. Assuming that there had most likely been no trail maintenance since before Aug'04, I pretty much knew we should expect lots of dead/downed trees, trail washouts, needed route finding, and trail overgrowth. Well, I was correct on all these but I kind-of forgot about the added variable of snow fields at some trail elevations on the north facing slopes. We three started in at 9:am from the Mineral Creek TH and did not reach the west end intersection of 24/23 (at "The Park") until ~1:30pm and had clocked not 3.5mls, but 4.6 miles(some of which was off trail-roaming trying to find the trail).

We had a very interesting discussion/negotation on our short lunch break at "The Park" regarding what was the best route back. There were really only two options: (1)back the way we came which we all understood would be difficult, could be risky(for safety reason), and also very time consuming(we knew we did not want to still be on the North Peak TR after dark); or (2)add another 4+ additional miles to our hike out by heading north on a safer, known trail- the Mazatzal Divide TR which would exit us at the City Creek TH but an additional 9+ hiking forest road miles from our vehicle at the Mineral Creek TH :-k Well, we first decided on the safety side to take the known longer Mazatzal TR back hoping that we could reach the ending TH before dark and thumb a ride with someone/anyone back to our vehicle. We then started out, then within 300ft of heading up #23, we found the actual trail intersection of 23/24(which we had previously missed coming in to "The Park" area); So now another short discussion and since we can now actually see a real trail section of #24, we make a 90 degree right turn and start heading back on the North Pk TR#24 :roll: . Then we closely follow what we see as this TR24 and less than another 300ft, we intersect the Mazatzal Divide TR23 again.. :lol: . So much for team decision making under pressure! I think we all three looked up to the sky at the same time and then almost immediately after, started hiking back north on the Mazatzal Divide Trail.. We three all do believe in a "higher :pray: power"!!

Please also see topohiker's triplog and my attached trip "pic set with detailed note captions" to walk-you-through our adventure this day..much of which was very scenic with North Peak draped in snow!
 Flora
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[ checklist ]  Desert Mistletoe
 Geology
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[ checklist ]  Tapeats Sandstone
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[ checklist ]  HAZ - Hike HAZard
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 Named place [ checklist ]
[ checklist ]  Mogollon Rim  North Peak  The Park
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Mar 07 2004
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Mazatzal Divide Trail #23Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Backpack avatar Mar 07 2004
mazatzalTriplogs 1,347
Backpack34.00 Miles 6,600 AEG
Backpack34.00 Miles4 Days         
6,600 ft AEG
 
Day 1: City Creek TH to Fuller Seep. Jim found a nice axe on the trail and carried it for the next 4 days.

Day 2: Fuller seep to lower Wet Bottom Creek crossing (see profile photo and thank you Jim or wading in and rescuing my hiking socks that had blown into the creek :sl: ) and then back track to Midnight trail and down to Upper Wet Bottom Creek crossing.

Day 3: Upper WBC to The Park. This stretch of Midnight trail is really cool.

Day 4: Down North Peak trail and along Pole Hollow to City Creek TH.

We were lucky enough to do this incredible loop before the Willow Fire by just 3 months.
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Apr 27 1997
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 Joined Jul 28 2004
 Scottsdale, AZ
Mazatzal Divide Trail to Knob MountainPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 27 1997
mazatzalTriplogs 1,347
Hiking13.00 Miles 2,800 AEG
Hiking13.00 Miles
2,800 ft AEG
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City Creek to Knob Mtn and back.
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
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average hiking speed 2.42 mph

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