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East Fork Trail #95 - Greer - 10 members in 29 triplogs have rated this an average 2.9 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Sep 10 2023
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 Phoenix, AZ
East Fork loop - L Colorado, AZ 
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Last little outing before heading back down to PHX... Main goal was to finally check out East Fork trail. Most of the climbing was in the first mile. Took the detour to Amberon Point, which is quite steep. Trail is a bit messy above the point, but it's actually marked, and conveniently reconnects to East Fork trail. Trail condition was better than expected, and it's pretty pleasant for the most part. Couple parts through the meadows are a little grassy, but with GPS it's clear where to go.

The railroad grade section was not my favorite. Map shows the trail crossing the road directly across from Gabaldon, but didn't see any gate here, and proceeded to the FR. Found what I think might be an aspen bolete.

Gabaldon campground was nice and vacant, proceeded up the connector to East Baldy trail, then back down to Crossover.

On Crossover I got distracted by more mushrooms; collected three porcinis. By the time I got to West Baldy Trail, it was pretty cloudy, and I half expected it to rain (it didn't). Opted to take the creek trail down - found it's easiest to cross over to the south side just past the culvert, then cross back over when the creek bends away from Sheeps Crossing Point.

The trail down West Fork is one of the most idyllic places in Arizona.
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Sep 03 2022
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Government Springs TrailAlpine, AZ
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Parked at Sheeps Crossing and headed down to the water. The trail was relatively easy to follow, but rather wet and muddy given all the recent rains. This is a beautiful section of trail very close to the river. Didn't see any people until after the first fish dam waterfall at 2 miles in. The waterfalls are delightful! As is the hike alongside the creek. Past the waterfalls, we started to see more and more people and lots of dogs. The trail was also even more muddy due to heavy traffic. The trail was somewhat rocky between the waterfalls and the Greer trailhead.

From the government Springs TH in Greer, we walked up to the East Fork trailhead and crossed the river which is quite wide at that point. We did manage to rock hop across. The trail then heads up. It is wide and well maintained with lots of signs at junctions. In contrast to 95A which is overrun with people, we saw no one on East Fork. Upon reaching the the top, we jumped one gate as we were unable to open it. The trail continues on flat across the mesa top. When we hit the four wheel drive road, my hiking buddy was pretty much done hiking :(, so we opted to take the 4WD road (as marked on the topo) to shave off some distance as it intersected with the trail later on. There is a game camera strapped to the tree at the Junction of the trail and the 4WD road. We continued on enjoying the solitude and beautiful cool weather. We hit another gate shortly before our intersection back with the east fork trail. We hopped this gate, too, as it was inoperable. We then met with our first set of MANY cows. All the cows are currently on this trail. :(. I don't mind a few cows, but really, the trail from here on out was overrun with them, which was disappointing. :/. On the 4WD road almost back to the trail, We passed a bunch of cows and a mean looking bull, but we walked by without incident. The cows and calves moved out of our way and over towards the bull. I was done walking on the old road, and I was happy to see the trail again. It is nicer on a single track, of course. Sadly, we went a short distance on the trail before coming across a massive amount of cows. About 50 or more. A few too many for me to feel comfortable walking through. :/. They were right in the area where there is a spring. The spring is unnamed on the map, but it is the spring between developed spring and spruce spring. Given the cow infestation, we sadly detoured off the trail again and back to the 4WD road. It was nearly cow free, but every so often, there would be 15 cows or so, in groups. We did see our only people since the government Springs trail head here, 3 mountain bikers on the road. We continued on hoping to jump back on the trail at the next intersection, but it was not to be.

At the next intersection of trail and 4WD, the trail goes down into the meadow. And... Wait for it... Hundreds of cows!! Alas, we decided to not wade through the cattle, and instead continued on the 4WD road towards the Winn Campground. This is not a 4WD road usable to the public, we did pass a gate to keep cars out of the wilderness closer to road to the Winn Campground. Eventually we dumped out on the road (going to Winn CG) and headed out to connect with the railroad trail. The railroad trail was simply a connector between sheeps crossing/95A trail and the east fork trail/97. The railroad trail is very underwhelming. It is mostly right next to the road. One good thing - no more cows, ha!!

Right next to sheeps crossing we cut out two meanders by taking the road back to the car, as my hiking buddy was beyond done at this point. :/

I enjoyed 95A and would do it again despite the mud, rocks, and congestion. East fork I would do again(and stay on the trail the entire time!!) if I could be sure the area wasn't overrun by cattle. The cows really took a lot out of the experience! :(. Oh, well! It is never a bad day when you are out hiking!! The area is beautiful with meadows and forests, and the weather was amazing, if a bit hot on the afternoon (85F!). The railroad connector trail is seriously boring, and I would avoid it in the future!
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Lots of wildflowers still, but starting to wane.
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Got to enjoy cooler weather for a few days out east. It rained a bit. There were a lot of clouds. And some nice relaxing hikes along the Little Colorado and West Fork Black Rivers. Ran in to some social friends too which was a pleasant surprise.
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Jul 11 2020
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Mt Baldy Super Loop, AZ 
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Felt a bit bummed after last weekend's failed backpack attempt w/ kids, trying to split the typical Mt Baldy Loop into 3 days, so decided to head back and do it as a solo day hike. Was inspired by @lindaann, @joebartels, and @tortoise_hiker's route. Camped along FR 409 in order to get an early start, parked car at West Fork TH at 4am and had a pleasant moonlit hike through downtown Greer to start the day.

East Fork #95
Was faced by a few different forks right at the river crossing, rolled a die and headed up the correct one. Was nice to get this little climb knocked out in the predawn. Passed a few interesting signed spurs (Amberon Point, Scenic Loop), stuck to the main trail, hoping to get healthy distance before sunrise. Spooked a large herd of elk at the top, right at the fenceline. Made it to the Marble Spring area for a fantastic sunrise. Pleasant stroll through chilly meadows and small stands of pines, saw more elk and deer along the way. Trail is in great shape and easy to follow, only got confused once near Colter where the singletrack forks for a quarter mile before rejoining. Picked up a water cache at FR 409 before cutting over to Gabaldon Camp.

East Baldy #95
Utilized the camp trail before joining the 'main' route. Didn't do a lot of research on this trail, leaning into the unknown, was surprised at how much pine forest it went through (compared to West Baldy's meadows). Passed one campsite and a few slower backpackers, overall pretty quiet on the trail. The hoodoo overlook was cool, the exposed flanks were cool, the crash site was cool... This is a solid, enjoyable trail, less than a dozen deadfall to deal with, I was just getting tired at this point. Paused for a few more breaks than necessary to enjoy the area. Reached the saddle and did a quick dance towards the summit, just to be scared away by quickly-growing storm in the west.

West Baldy #94
Nice to walk downhill. The burn area was sad to walk through, though it did give good views of the West Fork meadow below. Quickly made it to the meadows and the trail began to get congested, lots of in-and-back hikers down here to skip around. Filtered up before the Crossover Trail (should have left a second water cache). Last mile dragged, didn't expect that little elevation and forest before trailhead.

West Fork #94
Swung over to culvert on the start of this (thanks @lindaann), then slowly strolled across the open meadow. Was definitely feeling the miles at this point and stopped for a lengthy rest. This trail felt much rougher than the other ones - more rocky sections, more annoying deadfall, and a few eroded spots - though I'll admit I was also feeling grumpy and sore, so... grain of salt. Views across West Fork were nice and I picked out different landmarks from the morning's hike. Also, that little drop before passing 9375', plus the spring box on the round, were enjoyable. Got a little sprinkle for the last mile, enough to soak me through right before getting back to the Jeep.
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Colter Reservoir 26-50% full 26-50% full
Didn't look that full, but there was still a healthy flow below.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Marble Spring Dripping Dripping
Didn't see actual spring, but there were puddles visible downhill from trail.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Mount Baldy Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute
Decent flow, but it'd be challenging to collect.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Potatoe Hollow Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Overflowing, ground was saturated. Pipe makes for easy access if one didn't want to scoop from the trough.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Trail Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Trail Spring Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full
Overflowing.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max West Fork LCR - Upper Tributary Medium flow Medium flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max West Fork Little Colorado River Medium flow Medium flow
Good flow, definitely need to use the footbridge to cross.
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Mount Baldy LoopAlpine, AZ
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I had thought about doing the Baldy Loop from Greer for a few years. I mentioned it to Linda on one of our local hikes and to my :o she was interested and ok with a early start time! Joe B jumped on board and it was a go :y: .
The departure time, cache set up and hike start time went great. We started a few minutes before the planned time of 5am. We walked down the middle of main street for our first mile and not one car interrupted our stroll :) . We started on East Fork and crossed the LCR without incident . Headlamps were only needed for another mile. The Aspen in the burn area are up to 15 or 20 ft. now. We heard the first of the Elk bugling in this area and it would continue off and on the rest of the hike. The second half of East Fork is overgrown with grass. The grass was no bother to our legs and Route Scout kept us on trail. We saw our first of many Elk on this section and one Coyote.
We grabbed our cache and headed up East Baldy. A nice section. The hoodoos with the Aspen and the views for miles our my favorite part of the East Baldy side. Only a couple down trees on this section. The climb with the Altitude hit me more then I thought it would :( . My pace slowed and by the time we got to the East/West junction I didn't have a summit in me. Joe and Linda wouldn't do it without me so we took a break and got ready for our next section. The Loop itself was our main objective.
West Baldy is a little chewed up on the top half mile from runoff. After that the trail is pretty good and only has a handful of downed trees in the (tree dead zone :scared:). The grassland along with the LCR on the lower section are my favorite on the West Baldy. This was my first time on the section between the crosscut and West Baldy trailhead. We grabbed our cache here, took a break and were ready for our final section.
Once we got on trail the West Fork was easier to follow then the East Fork. Once we started hitting open grass areas the Elk sightings would really pick up. It was very 8) to see a herd of cow Elk follow a big Bull Elk around with his every move. We saw this several times :y: . There were a few smaller bulls mixed in here and there as well. The bugling continued as well. This section was our shortest but we were tired so it seemed a little long :? . We finished before dark which was another goal as well :D .
The weather was great and the company top notch! Thanks to Linda for doing all the driving and Joe for making sure she was awake for it. Like Haz, you two rock!
I also want to thank you for putting up with my bellyaching! A lot of Hazers have joined me or let me join them on some epic hikes and backpack trips. Thanks to all of you. The bellyache is gone in a day but the memories :) :D :y: !!!!
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Mt Baldy Super Loop, AZ 
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Prologue
14+ years ago I photoshopped this loop when static maps were more common. Denny pitched this loop with three weeks notice. Interest piqued. Scrolling through my history a hike over 26 miles had not occurred since 2014. East Valley of the Sun midnight meetup... what!

East Fork Trail #95 - Greer
My first trip to Greer, I was a little wide eyed. This loop favors a drivable water cache setup between trails so that was task one. 4:47am dark and cool we hiked over on Osborne Rd. Then dragged Main Street to East Fork Trailhead.

I thought Denny secretly had a cool app that occasionally shrieked screams to get us in the Halloween spirit. Elk bugling, gimme a break I don't get into the high country often... lol

This was my least favorite trail of the day. The 2011 Wallow Fire toasted the terrain. Still a nice cool morning hike. It quickly rises 600 ft out of Greer valley then an easy stroll through warm-morning-light meadows to 9,410 ft. RS helped decipher the only notable route finding on the day.

East Baldy Trail #95
Still love this one. Lycium berry bushes were loaded, battery-acid pie lovers would have been in 7th Heaven. Get a good night's rest or beware the rattle-squirrel passing the hoodoo rock outcrop. Denny was rethinking the pace further up so we slowed the train down.

West Baldy Trail #94
It was windy at times throughout the day. Overall perfect weather otherwise. After a little break we decided to omit the mile out-n-back to the summit then headed down. Just a great hike down IMHO.

West Fork Trail #94 - Greer
Majority is toast. Potatoe Hollow Spring looked dependable. The final mile down to the Greer trailhead is a nifty hobbit pine forest.

Synopsis
Great company on a memorable hike. Crawled under a half dozen dead tree obstacles tops. Doubt I'll forget this 24h 55m door-to-door day-trip from home on 1h 40m sleep.
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Shocking substantial mini swaths of yellow above 10k. A dabble at best otherwise.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout About a tenth of a mile past the spring on Topo a slow trickle Creek is passed, gotta be the spring

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Potatoe Hollow Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Super clear and flowing quick

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Trail Spring Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout
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Sep 21 2019
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Hiking29.74 Miles 3,445 AEG
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Denny had his sights set on doing a Baldy Marathon & 5K. We left the Valley around midnight, and got to the Greer area at 0400. We cached water at the East & West Baldy trailheads along hwy 273 so that we wouldn’t have to carry water for the whole distance nor have to spend time filtering, then parked at the West Fork trailhead at the north end of Greer. Not much of a trailhead, but there’s room for about four vehicles to park east of the sign.

Got started around 0450 and walked the main road south through Greer to the East Fork trailhead. We immediately crossed the Little Colorado and started climbing up to Amberion Flat. The trail is more defined through this part and easy to follow. After a couple of miles, the trail fades significantly in places and becomes a search of fiberglass signs, cairns, and deciding which trampled path in the grass is a real trail. Using a gps track helped take a lot of the guesswork out of the way for a few miles. After a while, the trail became more defined again and turned into a series of passing through as many gates as possible before reaching the road. We saw a coyote running towards two elk, which was kind of fun to watch.

Short walk north on Hwy 273 to the East Baldy trailhead. We picked up our cached drinks and headed up the trail. And up. Reasonably easy incline, but with so many miles already behind us, it was a little more challenging than usual. I think there was only one downed tree crossing the trail, which was nice. The elevation was not Denny’s friend today, so at the East/West saddle, we opted to skip the side trip so the summit and headed down West Baldy after a short break.

The top of West Baldy has seen some recent erosion from runoff, but overall in good shape, with only three or four downed trees to deal with. The lower part of this trail is always my favorite with the trail on the grassy windswept hillside and the river running down below. Once at the West Baldy trailhead, we picked up our remaining cache, which it turned out we didn’t need, and took a short break before beginning the West Fork trail.

Finding the start of West Fork was a little challenging. It turns out you walk under the highway on the north side of the trailhead. There’s a gate immediately on the east side of the highway where the trail begins. West Fork is reasonably easy to follow, with cairns and signs helping in a few places. After listening to bugling elk all day, we were treated to almost endless elk sightings along most of this trail. Eventually, the trail descended into Greer, and the sight of the vehicle parked right next to the trailhead was most welcome.

Great hike, absolutely perfect weather, and great company. We got back to the Valley just after 2230. Driving to Greer and back in one day is usually a full day in itself, and throwing a 30 mile hike into the middle of that definitely makes for a big day.
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East Fork #95 Greer, AZ 
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Nostalgic hike to meadow atop East Fork Trail/East Baldy with my mom and two daughters. Lovely day in the 50's, aspen regrowth on the mountain is coming along beautifully. I've visited this trail at least once per year since I was a young kid myself, even rode it horseback a few times. This was the first time my youngest daughter made it to the "top" unassisted and without complaining. Last year she rode in the child-hiking-backpack for most of the climb, so needless to say I was proud. We saw 6 deer on the ascent and impressive bear prints in the meadow. Stayed in Greer for the week, this place never gets old.
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East Fork Trail #95 - GreerAlpine, AZ
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Hiked with the kids up to Amberon Point and back. On the way back down, it started storming, then a DOWNPOUR. I didn't mind, but nobody else with me seemed to like it.
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Followed East Fork Trail about 3.5 miles from the trailhead. We turned around just past the large marshy meadows, as the trail was starting to become faint, and we got a late start to our day. Otherwise, we would have continued farther. Gorgeous trail, the scenery was perfect. We saw several garter snakes, a few deer, and one elk. Will return in the spring, and intend to finish the entire trail.
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Started to hike the first section and hill of East Fork Trail with the kids but as we crossed the river - somehow turned into full on playtime. Never really made it up the trail. But kids went up and down and all around LCR. Of course incredible weather - right after an afternoon thunderstorm. Flowers beautiful.
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Day 1 - 5 miles

Started at the West Fork Trail TH in Greer a little after 3pm. A few minutes up the trail is Trail Spring Tank, a beautiful small pond. I saw two hikers walking around the edge. They would be the only people I saw that day.

The trail then goes through some forested areas and large meadows. And burned areas. Lots of blowdowns to climb over or walk around.

Potatoe Hollow Spring had a good flow. The spring and the earlier tank were the only water sources along here.

I stopped for the night on the edge of a large meadow about a half mile short of Sheep's Crossing. As I was boiling some water for dinner a bear walked by, maybe 100 feet away. This time I had my camera at hand and got a couple pictures and some video. It didn't seem too concerned that I was there, not even when I made some noise. A few minutes later, 5 or so turkeys walked past.


Day 2 - 10 miles

Crossed 273 and arrived at the West Baldy TH. One vehicle in the lot with a guy sitting in a lawn chair. We chatted a bit. He'd been out hiking with friends and got worn out from the altitude, returning to the car while the friends went further on the Crossover trail. I admitted I was concerned about the elevation. I've never hiked to 11000, much less backpacked. My plan was to try Baldy, but if it was too much, I'd come back down and take the crossover to make a shorter loop.

The trail soon follows closely along the West Fork Little Colorado. Very scenic. I like water features. I think this was my favorite section of the loop.

I met a pack train and a trail crew coming out. They did a great job. Only had to detour around one blowdown on the West and East Baldy trails, with lots of recently cut through blowdowns.

At the last drainage before the trail starts seriously climbing I stopped for lunch and to load up on water. I figured the next sure source wouldn't be until the East Fork Little Colorado. As I picked up to leave, two guys came huffing and puffing up the trail and passed me. Ten minutes later they passed me going back down. They didn't say anything.

I was huffing and puffing too, but I kept going. I was on the last stretch to the trail junction when something exploded out of the brush next to the trail. It was a Dusky Grouse (I think) hen squawking and carrying on like it had a broken wing. I took a couple quick pics and moved on. My heartrate slowly returned to it's normal pounding.

Made it to the trail junction. Yay! Highest I've ever hiked. It's all downhill from here. (I thought briefly about sneaking to the summit, but after hearing that it wasn't that difficult to actually get permission from the tribe, I decided no, I would do it right sometime.)

I headed down the East Baldy Trail. I checked out the airplane wreckage, and the unnamed spring near the saddle with Mount Thomas. Not big, but it was flowing. I could have filled up here.

Spent the night at the saddle below Mount Thomas.


Day 3 - 10.5 miles

The trail so far had been quite clean, but at my campsite and one a bit further down I found a fair amount of trash including a large glass bottle. Some people are disgusting. If you carry it up, you can carry it back down. I stuffed it in pack pockets and hung it off loops, figuring I'd haul it down to the Gabaldon campground. But they don't provide trash collection, so I ended up carrying it all the way to Greer.

I think this was my second favorite section. The trail is good, some nice forrested sections, and interesting rock formations. Some good views down towards Big Lake too. But I think I like the trail along the West Fork LC better.

I met several groups of hikers in the morning, all asking things like how far they had come, if it's steep all the way. I tried to be encouraging, but they'd only started up the steep bit.

Took the trail over to Gabaldon CG after grabbing some water from the creek. Crossed back over 273 and started on the East Fork Trail. It follows the same route as the 601 railroad grade trail for a bit over a mile. I've thought some about backpacking the 601 and the Overland trail as a longer trip. Now I'm not so sure. The 601 may be an easy grade, but the surface isn't that easy to walk on.

I saw a couple people in the distance walking out to the dam at Colter Reservoir, but they turned around and headed back on the 601 before I got there. The East Fork splits at the dam. I saw no people or even footprints after that until almost Greer. It seems this trail doesn't get much use.

Colter reservoir had some water, and was nice and green around, as was the EFLC below the dam. But after that, the most interesting thing was a billowing smoke cloud from what I found out later was the San Juan Fire. Shortly after crossing the EFLC, the trail enters cattle country. Dusty trails. Cows that insist on walking ahead of you down the trail, kicking up more choking clouds of dust. Or being agressive and threatening. Burned areas with so much blowdown you can't follow the trail. Others where there are so many cowpaths you don't know what trail you're on. I guess it's clear this was my least favorite section. I don't think I'd do it again except as part of loop or longer hike.

I stopped for the night on a meadow a bit past Dry Spring. Which was dry.


Day 4 - 5 miles

Woke to cows staring at me.

I wasn't in a hurry. Just a few miles in to Greer now. This part was hit hard by fire. There's a point where you can see down into the EFLC river valley, and Greer in the distance. It's all burnt sticks. I do believe in the goodness of fire, and that fire is natural. But not this devastation. On the upside, I guess there wasn't much of a clear view before all the trees burned. At least the last bit into Greer was in nice trees again.

A little log "bridge" over the West Fork and I was done.

Well, except for mile and a half of roadwalk to the West Fork trailhead and my car. Stopped at the Rendezvous diner for a cold soda. I reeked pretty bad, but they were polite and didn't hold their noses.
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Finished up the East Fork trail to figure out how it connects, appears to actually share the railroad grade trail for about 2 miles.
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May 24 2014
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Loop with East Fork Trail and Railroad Grade Trail. Shortcut a bit of the East Fork trail to knock off some distance. The offtrail mile or so saved about 4-5 miles and didn't require any fences to be crossed.
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Jul 04 2013
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My friend Tom suggested a spur of the moment hike and I jumped on board.The sources we used show different mileage 6.5 to 7.5.Tom's gps showed 7.9 when we got to East Baldy trailhead so I'll go with it.We started out in Greer, crossed the LCR,and went up and up.We kept an eye out for the sharp switchback Elizabeth warns about.There is a carin there now and you can see the other trail you don't want to take to the left.Almost all of your climbing is in this first climb.The trail is in pretty good shape but does a have a few faint spots from time to time.The fire really took a toll on this area.There are some area's spared and tons of baby Aspen comming in from 2-6 feet.Many trees still standing for shade.There was a couple side trails at the 3.5 mile mark and 1 or 2 more so the gps was good to verify our direction.Some nice meadows but no animals except for cows.We had set up a shuttle car at East Baldy and hit FR273 just left of it as planned.The weather was great as was the company! Thanks to Tom for picking this one and hiking along. :y:
(note)The back road to Greer(7miles)from 273 has been worked on and is ok for cars(Ford Focus)
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Oct 26 2012
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We only did a section of this trail because of the burnt and downed logs. This would have been a really pretty trail before the fire. I hope in the last couple of years it has recovered nicely. Will have to go again sometime. It was cool to hear the wolves checking out our fist night's camp site when we camped the second night farther down.
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We stayed at Greer Lodge down the road (much busier this year post '11 fire). Gave husband some time to sleep in while I took two little ones in the double BOB on a jog up and down Main Street early morning. Stopped at East Fork trail access area about two inlets before the end of the road. Two big logs placed across LCR to get to actual trail that goes up and over mini-mountain type hill.

Kids were in their pajamas but with boots on top. They found rocky spots in the river to sit and dig in the mud and rocks using broken tree bark tools and their grubby toddler hands. Caroline (3 yrs old) named one good spot "sandy island" and she stood there to watch the recently stocked trout swimming in the few inches high water (with me wondering why we didn't bring a net). She had a baggie to collect nature samples of flowers and stuff to identify back at the cabin with our nature books. George (17 months old) can say about 40 or 50 words - and luckily "flower" :budrose: is one of those words. He was on a flower word binge all weekend. I have not seen the wildflowers so dense and so diverse in this area that I can remember since we've been coming back to 2005. Not sure if it's been extra rainy or post-fire recovery - but wildflowers were awesome.

We came back the four of us on the 18th with rented bikes at sunset and watched 5 deer walk toward us until George let out a big yelp and they bolted up the mountain. Two years ago we hiked a good portion of this trail, but this year I couldn't get past the river itself with these two mud-lovers.
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We decided to head out on another hike to see more of the beautiful area. We ended up getting lost in the field toward the end, which is VERY easy to do, and ended up coming out WAY down the road from where we thought we were going to. Our plan was to end at Sheep's Crossing, where Mark was fishing and waiting for us with beer. We ended up at the East Baldy Trail. We had to walk the road the whole way back. Ugh!
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Mt. Baldy Wilderness Trails - August 2011

West Baldy Trail #94
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Thompson Trail #629 => status?

Having recently completed a business trip around the world in 7 days (Phoenix to Minneapolis to Amsterdam to Delhi to Hong Kong to Shanghai to Singapore to Tokyo to Los Angeles to Phoenix), I booked a week off to recharge the batteries and spend some time with the wife and dogs.

With a request to escape the Valley heat for some cooler climes, I scouted up some of my favorite trails in the White Mountains. Escudilla, South Fork Trail #97, Indian Spring #627 all seem to have fallen victim to the 2011 Wallow Fire :( :( :(

It's been a few years since I've been to the Mt. Baldy Wilderness (check out => http://hikearizona.com/photoset.php?ID=2661 ) and I seem to recall that SR273 formed the western fire line. With the Mt. Baldy Wilderness being on the west side of the fire line, it should have been untouched by the Wallow Fire. A quick check of the weather forecast, Hi 72degF, Lo 52degF, 30% chance of T-storms and Lynn, Skippy, Chrissy, and me were off on our first trek in the new F-150...

There have been a few changes to the Mt. Baldy Wilderness since my last trek. No longer is SR273 a rough, washboard gravel road - it's now paved from the SR260 turn-off to the intersection with Big Lake Recreation Area campgrounds (check out => http://www.rrmofa.com/BigLakeRecreationArea.html ). There's a new road bridge crossing the West Fork of the Little Colorado River, and 3 new paved parking lots at the West Fork Trail #94 trail head, beside the new bridge (Phelps Cabin TH?), and at the East Fork Trail #93 trail head. Even the access road to the Lee Valley Reservoir is paved now!

When we pulled into the West Baldy Trail #94/West Fork Trail #94 parking lot noon-ish, we'd seen scant evidence of the Wallow Fire :) With only one other vehicle in the ample parking lot, we were anticipating a true wilderness experience. The Shih Tzu and Springer Spaniel were excited about hitting the trail and set a blistering pace to the intersection of the Phelps Cabin Trail at the open meadow near the Wilderness Boundary. We had perfect conditions to relax and explore the banks of the West Fork of the Lower Colorado - spoke too soon...

Echoing claps of thunder punctuated the sounds of nature as dark clouds began rolling over Mount Baldy. A light rain began to fall as we trekked further along the trail. We're past the Wilderness Boundary sign and I can't help but notice the recent ATV double track paralleling the trail - what's up with that?

We enter a forested area right beside the Little Colorado River and decide to wait out the rain here. A couple of Fish & Game workers amble down the trail and stop to chat. They've been electroshocking trout and taking inventory upstream. Indicated they inventoried only a couple of dozen no bigger than 4 inches. As they depart, they say; "Break out the rain gear because it's going to rain the rest of the day". Not exactly what I wanted to hear...
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Late afternoon Xmas hike with the family - up to the Point, quick pictures and then back down for dinner and gift exchange. Despite the warm temps in Greer the last few days, there was plenty of snow on the trail closer to the top- made slow going. Came down JUST as it got dark. Great way to spend Xmas!!!
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