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Apr 28 2024
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52 male
 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
Rider CanyonNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 28 2024
chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking8.14 Miles 1,939 AEG
Hiking8.14 Miles   6 Hrs   45 Mns   1.97 mph
1,939 ft AEG   2 Hrs   37 Mns Break
 
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Jon and I were heading home but decided that getting back to town at 5pm constitutes a wasted weekend, so we looked into some of the Marble Canyon options that have been on my radar for years. Without proper research and sketchy cell service, we opted to hit Rider, which Jon had done as part of a memorable "adventure" more than a decade ago.

It didn't disappoint. The one typically mandatory pool was only calf deep to cross, and despite the strong cold front that even made this one an option in late April, the sun was spring warm so I got to enjoy a couple of refreshing river swims and some tanning time on the beach while the photographer worked some magic up canyon.

Despite the late afternoon visit, we got to see a pair of those silly 150 passenger tourist rafts power through the rapids without so much as a bump. I'd love to see real paddle rafts or kayaks push through this one. I was not expecting what an aggressive little rapid this one is.

After late light photo fun we powered up canyon to the exit ascent, starting just as the sun set. This was actually nice timing as we were treated to a sun-free climb and reached the top just prior to needing artificial light.

After the long dirt drive back to pavement, we rolled back into town in the wee hours. The 89 and 17 are really quite enjoyable roads to drive when the rest of the world is asleep!
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max House Rock Rapids Medium flow Medium flow
Looked gnarly. Flow rate at Lees Ferry running between 8500 and 9500cfs at time of visit/posted photos.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max House Rock Wash Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Mostly dry with a few easily navigable pools in the last quarter mile. Did not taste, but heavy mineral deposits where water has evaporated made me question whether it would be drinkable anyway.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Rider Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Mostly dry with a few easily navigable pools in the last quarter mile. Did not taste, but heavy mineral deposits where water has evaporated made me question whether it would be drinkable anyway.
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Apr 14 2024
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 Joined Mar 26 2022
 Flagstaff, AZ
Rider CanyonNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 14 2024
shelby147Triplogs 119
Hiking5.50 Miles 1,400 AEG
Hiking5.50 Miles   6 Hrs   30 Mns   1.22 mph
1,400 ft AEG   2 Hrs    Break
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As seems to be our pattern, Megan mentioned some hikes she was thinking to do in Marble Canyon the next week and invited me along. I’d been itching to get back to the canyon and already debating a couple of day hikes near Lees Ferry. But now here was my opportunity to do things my car can’t take me to!

I left Flagstaff at 5:30 but the rough road out to Rider meant we didn’t start hiking until 10. I had been told my Camry could do that road, but I think it would have been too borderline for me to commit to all 14 miles. At the rim take-off we found a sign indicating the descent chute through the Kaibab. This part was kind of fun because there are two holes you climb through and the second is a bit of a squeeze. We passed packs. There was a fairly defined track the entire way down the talus to the creekbed, but with some braiding from game and previous use.

From the creekbed, the exit slope is not obviously an exit. There are thin Coconino cliffs – which are plenty broken when you’re up close – and the Kaibab break is completely hidden. My mental notes on the location were that there was a big white face of Kaibab cliff shortly upstream the route and a talus slope that goes all the way to the Kaibab about equidistant downstream. The ascent spot has a series of Coconino ledges which all appear horizontal from the creekbed. But also, there was a big stick and a couple of large cairns indicating the departure from the creekbed.

Before long, we began encountering big sheets of Supai slickrock in the bed of the drainage. As we descended further, there were pools of water in elegant flutes. This section was really enjoyable. There was one place where we made a longer bypass of a Supai ledge on creek right, but otherwise we could find ways to stay in the bed through here.

Near the river, the grade gets steeper and the canyon narrower. There were some chockstones and unavoidable pools. We had to wade knee-deep through a pool, then at the next pool I checked for a bypass and missed it, causing me to attempt a crawl through shallow water under a ledge right beside where the pool got much deeper. I think I could have done it without my pack on. Lucky for me, Megan double-checked the left ledge and found a descent right around the corner, saving me from getting very wet.

The river at House Rock is very cool. At high water, the river runs over much of the delta below Rider. When we were there, there was shallow water running over part of the delta and extending a ways out into the channel. Some water had washed back into the creek because the bed is so low and narrow at its mouth. We had lunch on a boulder overlooking the head of the rapid and the river upstream, then moved to a little sandy beach on the downstream end to lounge for a bit. We claimed an abandoned Nalgene bottle.

Our return hike was faster now that we knew the details for the bypasses. We also hiked up the slope to the car about 15 minutes faster than we descended. It was warm but not overly hot, and Rider Canyon actually offers regular patches of shade at midday. My pants, already threadbare, finally had had enough and I don’t think it’s worth repairing the 6-inch tear in the butt this time. Good thing I had a new pair in the car for just this eventuality. I think I will look like a rookie hiker for a while now, with my brand new pack, pants, and sun shirt.
 
Apr 14 2024
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 Joined Mar 12 2021
 Seattle, WA
Rider CanyonNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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rubywranglerTriplogs 17
Hiking5.50 Miles 1,400 AEG
Hiking5.50 Miles
1,400 ft AEG
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shelby147
Rider is up there with Tuckup in terms of beauty but much easier. Similarly terrible drive also. The road was definitely the crux of this one. I’m so happy to have two (almost) good hands again!
 
May 25 2019
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50 male
 Joined Dec 22 2003
 Tucson, AZ
Rider CanyonNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar May 25 2019
RedwallNHopsTriplogs 1,360
Hiking6.00 Miles 1,200 AEG
Hiking6.00 Miles   4 Hrs   30 Mns   1.33 mph
1,200 ft AEG
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Did lower rider. The trail is rerouted due to a rockslide, but isn't bad - a little harder to follow now
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Apr 15 2018
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 Joined Jan 04 2014
 Phoenix, AZ
Grand Canyon River Running, AZ 
Grand Canyon River Running, AZ
 
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AZBeaverTriplogs 124
Hiking25.00 Miles
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This is my 4th Colorado River rafting trip with Hatch River Expeditions,through the Grand Canyon--12 glorious days below the rim! I went with my sister, Rita, and best friend Linda Brady. We traveled from Lee's Ferry all the way to Whitmore Wash, 188 miles down the Colorado River taking in both the Upper and Lower Canyon. These motor rigs are 35' in length and 16' wide powered by a 30-horsepower, four-stroke motor. They have two tubes on the sides which you can ride in rapids if you want a great thrill! There were only 14 passengers and 2 crew and one boat this time. I highly recommend saving your $$ for this trip of a life time. It's not cheap, but worth every penny if you are adventurous, love to hike fairly difficult hikes and don't mind camping on the beach every night. You'll get to HATE SAND! But, heck, it's only sand. I keep saying "this will be the last time I go on this trip", but I already miss it. Never say never! If any of you are thinking of going on this trip and want a few good tips, message me.
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 Joined Jan 04 2014
 Phoenix, AZ
Grand Canyon River RunningNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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AZBeaverTriplogs 124
Rafting35.00 Miles 7,500 AEG
Rafting35.00 Miles12 Days         
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This is my third Colorado River rafting trip through the Grand Canyon. Wade and I did the same trip two years ago in 2014--a 12-day hiking-intensive rafting trip with Hatch River Expeditions. I love this trip! Wade gave this to me for my 62nd birthday. This time; however, I went alone. Wade did not want to go as he's "Been there, Done that!" I was quite worried about the weather as it was supposed to rain the majority of the time based on weather reports at Phantom Ranch. God was looking out for us as the weather was perfect! We traveled from Lee's Ferry all the way to Whitmore Wash, 188 miles down the Colorado River taking in both the Upper and Lower Canyon. These motor rigs are 35' in length and 16' wide powered by a 30-horsepower, four-stroke motor. They have two tubes on the sides with you can ride in rapids if you want a great thrill! There were only 9 passengers and three crew on the upper canyon trip. Four hiked out at the Bright Angel Trail near Phantom Ranch leaving only 5 of us to go the full 12 days. 24 people hiked down from the South Rim to meet the boats at Pipe Creek for the next 6 days. If you've never done this trip, I highly recommend saving your $$ for this trip of a life time. It's not cheap, but worth every penny if you are adventurous, love to hike fairly difficult hikes and don't mind camping on the beach every night. You'll get to HATE SAND! But, heck, it's only sand. I will write more about his trip when I edit this triplog later. Some of the hikes that I can't find links to on HAZ include Saddle Canyon, the confluence of the Little Colorado River, Miner's Camp (North Bass Trail.) I'm doing my best to keep my "being" below the rim. I'm just not ready for real life yet, but it is nice to have a hot shower!
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Apr 13 2014
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69 male
 Joined Jan 23 2008
 Phoenix, AZ
Rider CanyonNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 13 2014
AZWanderingBearTriplogs 700
Hiking1.00 Miles 300 AEG
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Easy hike up from Marble Canyon on Day 1 of a 12-day raft trip. Colorful little canyon with minimal rock scrambling.
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Oct 19 2013
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 Joined Nov 15 2005
 Jackson, CA
Rider CanyonNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 19 2013
toddakTriplogs 577
Hiking5.50 Miles 1,400 AEG
Hiking5.50 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   1.00 mph
1,400 ft AEG
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The plan was to descend the full length of Rider, including the technical upper section described in Todd Martin's Grand Canyoneering book. But a mile or so down I hit a long, narrow corridor with lightly flowing water, deep pools, slick downclimbs and no obvious bypass. The guidebook didn't mention this section and since I was without drybags or wetsuit, I decided to retreat and do the standard route into the lower canyon instead, a very fun hike with outstanding stretches of slickrock, narrows and some tricky scrambles around pools. The canyon mouth and beach at the river are also very nice.

The road in has many sections that are pretty rough, took about an hour each way, including one wide wash to cross with deep, soft sand.
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Oct 10 2011
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42 male
 Joined May 30 2008
 queen creek, az
Rider CanyonNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 10 2011
JonnybackpackTriplogs 40
Hiking5.50 Miles 1,400 AEG
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1,400 ft AEG45 LBS Pack
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Headed up here with azpride and some of my family for a "rugged" adventure. Boy did it deliver. The experience in the group ranged from never camping to many backpack/canyoneering adventures and everything in between. The out of town family asked for "rugged" and I took them to the eye of the storm :D Anyone heading this way, feel free to CONFIRM directions! PM me if needed, better yet I'll put together a map to avoid mass confusion.

Once to the trailhead the entry shoots SE and is the classic CG style "trail". I will say this, if you don't hit the choke stone crawl space in the first 15 minutes, your not on the right path. This is the spot where all members went "oh crap" in only a way Arizona can get make you say. We removed our packs and one by one slid through. After this point its switch backs and a steep graded route. Azpride is an excellent route finder and we never had a cairn to far out of site. Rout finding is not cheap in this neck of the desert, so be prepared. There are a few relative "flat areas" to view the canyon floor but not to much to see at this point. In about 1.5 hrs we reached a small scramble that is somewhat difficult with a pack on due to your wait transfer over a ledge 100-200 ft about the canyon floor. Once over its boulder hopping and creek bottom time.

The next .75 mile is large boulders and drainage bed. It's somewhat average at this point but, no worries, it gets better and much narrower as you head towards the river. 1.5 mile to go to the river and the dry-falls start to appear. Did I mention the sun was down at this point :scared: ? Should have left a bit earlier :o The moon and headlamps lead the way quite nicely. A few more dry-falls and a geological change happens gradually. A few scrambles and butt slides are inevitable, it adds to the charm. At one one point, to avoid the muddy pool, we all had to hug a wall and tip toe one by one around. I went last and , well, became one with the mud :? Again, it only added to the charm of the canyon ;) Finally, as the canyon narrows there is an impassible dry-fall about .5 miles from the river. This is where the narrows begin. We were all exhausted at this point, so azpride scouted ahead and finally came back from the darkness and said, "this is the way around!" A scramble up to the left, and onto a trail 5 ft wide and 70 ft drop to your right. NEATO, except it was idiotic to do at night, and with packs. After tempting fate we all decided to set up camp. Among the boulders are some great sandy spots, so we made home. The mood went from "Killing Jon" to good libations real fast. Freeze dried food,craft beer, laughter, and sleep. All in that order.

The next day we ventured into the narrows, again nicely cairned route. We all were relieved we didn't take the left route down at night, this is by far the hardest/scariest part of the trip. Once past this section its all good from here. Honestly I was taken aback at the sheer beauty, as I think we all were on that same page. Giant pools of water and red toned jagged rocks fill this area. A must see IMO. Right before the "wading pool" you feel like your in a Grand Cathedral. The wading pool is mandatory so prepare to get wet. It was up to my waist, so gauge depending on recent rain. After wading through the large pool its only 20 more, completely beautiful, minutes to house rock rapids. This beach is as live-able as it is camp-able. The whole group stood in awe of the mighty Colorado. I realized that I was the only one who had seen it up close. It was like Christmas morn and everyone just opened the best gift ever received. Rafters guided through the rapids flawlessly as we watched. This beach is a real gem.

The way out is so much easier, save for the good 'ol AZ sun. That should be expected in this country though! We then headed to the north rim for a night of coooooollld car camping and my birthday chili :D

Elisha(her first camping/backpack experience ever!), Aimee, Liz, Andrew, David, Joel and I wont forget that anytime soon!
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Mar 17 2008
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63 male
 Joined Aug 12 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Rider CanyonNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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scorpion scusTriplogs 28
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great times in marble canyon.
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Mar 15 2008
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53 male
 Joined Aug 22 2003
 Mesa
Rider CanyonNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 15 2008
te_waTriplogs 338
Hiking6.00 Miles 1,200 AEG
Hiking6.00 Miles   4 Hrs   30 Mns   1.33 mph
1,200 ft AEG
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car camped with Matt, Liz, Mike and Josh on the rim of Rider and took the canyon's super steep and loose footing "trail" down to the bottom. then a bit of boulder hopping, scrambling and stare-downs with slots, waterfalls, and drop offs led to the mighty Colorado river where I tried to catch my dinner. Rider canyon was fantastic and the company was out of this world. Mike
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 Joined Oct 04 2002
 Canton, OH
Rider CanyonNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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HoffmasterTriplogs 74
Hiking4.00 Miles 600 AEG
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Took my wife and a few friends here for the weekend. We did some fishing with minimal success. Pickletree bummed a raft ride through the rapids, but the raft flipped. Lots of excitement!
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Dec 24 2006
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 Canton, OH
Rider CanyonNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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HoffmasterTriplogs 74
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Even though there are signs pointing the way to the trailhead for this fantastic tributary in Marble Canyon, I decided to follow a map which proved to be highly inaccurate. My friend Josh and I camped near the end of a two-track jeep road, about a mile from the actual trailhead. We spent a considerable amount of the morning wandering the rim trying to find a way into this canyon. We nearly went to the head of the canyon to drop in there, when for some unknown reason, we decided to wander to the edge and peer down in. We saw a 50 ft dryfall with no bypasses. No sense in continueing up canyon we decided.

Down canyon, we found a break in the rim that seemed promising. We skirted a cool leaning tower, but soon found ourselves on steep slopes that appeared to cliff out. A short distance further down canyon we found the break we were looking for. There is a trail sign, which gave the area a casual feel. There is nothing casual about the descent into Rider Canyon (aka House Rock Wash). The trail seems to take the most direct route, which is straight down. We slipped and slid down to the canyon bottom in about twenty minutes. We marked a way-point and continued down canyon.

The canyon is unimpressive at first, but eventually the walls begin to tighten. The canyon floor consists mostly of slabs of slickrock which make the going easy. About 1/2 mile from the river, dryfalls appear, making for some interesting challenges. Almost all of them can be bypassed, although some of the bypasses seemed worse than the fall itself. At .1 miles from the river we could hear House Rock Rapids thundering. This is where we hit a pool that must be waded, and the bottom is deep mud. It was probably 40 degrees in the canyon narrows; no way we were getting in that water. Getting that close to the river, only to be turned back was very dissapointing. :(

The hike out was not nearly as bad as the hike in. Everything seemed easier. We made it out of the canyon in about the same time as it took to hike in. Once on the rim, we trekked cross-country, making a beeline for camp, arriving just as the sun was setting. This is a canyon that will see me again...I will not be denied! :twisted:
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Rider CanyonNorthwest, AZ
Northwest, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking2.92 Miles 417 AEG
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