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Mar 29 2024
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45 male
 Joined Jun 26 2017
 Payson, Arizona
Vineyard Trail #131Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 29 2024
PaysonRealtorAZTriplogs 10
Hiking3.33 Miles 2,167 AEG
Hiking3.33 Miles
2,167 ft AEG
 
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I only went about a mile and a half in as I was on my way to Globe from Payson when I did the hike. Pretty hike on a sunny day. Very exposed sunshine wise. Great views. Very peaceful and serene. Highly recommend.
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
Decent amount and mix of wildflowers but certainly not an abundance.
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Oct 22 2023
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 Joined Jun 26 2017
 Payson, Arizona
See Spring Trail #185Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Oct 22 2023
PaysonRealtorAZTriplogs 10
Hiking0.62 Miles 404 AEG
Hiking0.62 Miles
404 ft AEG
 
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A number of hikers on the trail though not so many as to cut into the enjoyment of the hike. The trail is in pretty good shape although the spring itself is unmarked. This is a wonderful fall hike to do.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
Gorgeous fall color throughout the trail.
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Sep 17 2023
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45 male
 Joined Jun 26 2017
 Payson, Arizona
Highline Trail #31Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Sep 17 2023
PaysonRealtorAZTriplogs 10
Hiking7.20 Miles 840 AEG
Hiking7.20 Miles   3 Hrs   4 Mns   2.59 mph
840 ft AEG      17 Mns Break
 
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This is only a small piece of the Highline Trail. It is a ~2.5 mile hike from the See Canyon Trailhead to a really neat red rock outcropping. Gorgeous spot and easily mixable with a hike to See Spring.
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Aug 19 2023
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45 male
 Joined Jun 26 2017
 Payson, Arizona
Horton Creek Trail #285Payson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Aug 19 2023
PaysonRealtorAZTriplogs 10
Hiking7.10 Miles 1,222 AEG
Hiking7.10 Miles   4 Hrs   33 Mns   1.56 mph
1,222 ft AEG
 
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I hiked this with a group of people from the Hike AZ Singles group on Facebook. On the way to the spring we took a lower line, staying mostly on the creek. There is a lower and upper route much of the way, though the lower route is less defined than the main route.

Beautiful day with the temperature in the mid 80s and some clouds but no thunder. Started hike at ~9:30 and had to park at parking lot by Derrick Trailhead as the Tonto-Horton Bridge parking lot was full.
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Wildflowers Observation Moderate
Plenty of wildflowers along the creek.
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Jun 26 2023
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45 male
 Joined Jun 26 2017
 Payson, Arizona
Dude Fire Memorial Trail - Walk Moore CanyonPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar Jun 26 2023
PaysonRealtorAZTriplogs 10
Hiking1.38 Miles 185 AEG
Hiking1.38 Miles
185 ft AEG
 
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Remembering the Dude Fire and Lives Lost
I walked up Walk Moore Canyon, on this trail, on the 33rd anniversary of the Dude Fire fatalities. (June 26, 1990) I was headed to crosses that marked where six firefighters died. There was no one else on the trail. The weather was nice with a slight breeze, and the canyon is still green since we had a wet winter and below normal temperatures recently. That’s far, far different than the way it was 33 years ago.

On June 26, 1990, the temperature reached 122 degrees in Phoenix, which is still a record for the valley. It reached 106 in Payson that day. The land was parched and in desperate need of rain. To say that it was inhospitable conditions would be an understatement.

I tried to imagine how things were. Walk Moore Canyon was bustling as crews tried to build lines to protect the Bonita Creek subdivision and to ultimately subdue the Dude Fire. Amongst the crews was a group from Perryville Prison. They had arrived at Bonita Creek at 1 AM and by 2:30 AM they were at the junction of Walk Moore Canyon and Control Road. That was where I started my hike.

On that day, 33 years ago, the Perryville Crew worked with other crews for several hours to build line along a Jeep Trail in Walk Moore Canyon, before turning eastward and following power lines into Bonita Creek. All of this was clearly visible as I walked up the canyon and stated in the Staff Ride to the Dude Fire descriptions, which are available online.

Vegetation in and around the canyon has grown back thick. There are pine trees growing, but there is also a lot of manzanita and scrub oak that fills the canyon, along with Weeping Lovegrass. That grass was planted right after the Dude Fire to prevent erosion, as the summer monsoon season was coming quickly. There was a scramble to get enough seeds – after all, this was the largest fire in Arizona history at the time. Supposedly enough native seeds were not available. The lovegrass was chosen, and it turned out to be a major mistake. It has grown thick throughout the burn area and isn’t easily removed. Cattle do not like it. However, one does not have to look far to see efforts being made to thin the thick vegetation that has grown back. Less than a mile away two masticators have recently started thinning. It will make a huge difference.

The first cross that I came upon was that of James Ellis. He had deployed his shelter along with the others, when the wave of fire hit. He initially survived it, first walking down the canyon, then back up it where he met other survivors. Alas Ellis didn’t survive for much longer. As he was being escorted back to Control Road he said, “I’m dead”, laid down and placed his head on a log and died. The cross isn’t exactly where he died. They moved it out of the canyon bottom because of erosion concerns. Nevertheless, it’s a powerful spot.

I continued further up the canyon, knowing that it would be a little bit before I came to the deployment site. I passed underneath the powerline that the crew had worked so diligently around. Then I got closer and closer to where so many perished.

The crosses of where the five other crewmembers died is a particularly serene spot because of how green things are right now. Curtis Springfield, James Denney, Sandra Bachman, and Alex Contreras all perished near each other. Just past those crosses is a large metal box. It turns out that there are fire shelters inside of it. As per the instructions on the outside of the box, I looked but did not touch them.

The trail goes further into the canyon, and I hiked a little ways before turning around. It’s scenic, a far cry from the scene 33 years ago. Ultimately, the trail swings around the Bonita Creek subdivision near what is referenced as “the corner house”. According to the Dude Fire Staff Ride, “The corner house became a landmark and reference point during the fire. This location served as a meeting point for the numerous resources on this portion of the fire. It was a tactical focal point being at the head of Walk Moore Canyon and the portion of Bonita Creek Estates Subdivision closest to the fire.” Later, after I had completed my hike, I drove into Bonita Creek and found “the corner house”. While it played a huge role during the fire, I found that there wasn’t much to see from the road. I think that one would have to cross onto private property to get somewhat of a feel for it.

As I walked back down the canyon, I paused at the crosses of the fallen firefighters one last time, thanking them for their service.

It is easy to forget that there were survivors who sustained serious injuries that day. Multiple firefighters, including Geoff Hatch and Dave La Tour, suffered substantial burns that day. They had deployed their shelters just north of those who died. They may have survived but they were also permanently scarred in more ways than one. Other people who deployed their shelters in the group, but survived, were Donald Love, William Davenport, and Gregory Hoke.

I drove home through some of the Dude Fire burn. I traveled eastward on Control Road and eventually into an area that did not burn. I turned on another road that took me back into the burn and home. I live less than a ¼ mile from the Dude Fire burn. The fire was and still is a big deal to me. I was 10 years old when it happened, and today I live in the place that my family had then.

There is a lot more that I could say here about the fire. A lot of people deserve mention but there is a practical limitation in this space. There is a lot of other information out the fire. The Dude Fire Staff Ride (https://www.nwcg.gov/wfldp/toolbox/staf ... /dude-fire) information online is terrific, probably the most comprehensive place of information. I wrote about the Dude Fire in my book Zane Grey’s Forgotten Ranch: Tales from the Boles Homestead. I had neighbors who raced the fire out around midnight that night. Somehow, they survived. That’s just the tip of the iceberg.
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Jun 13 2023
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45 male
 Joined Jun 26 2017
 Payson, Arizona
Geronimo - Turkey Springs - West Webber, AZ 
Geronimo - Turkey Springs - West Webber, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jun 13 2023
PaysonRealtorAZTriplogs 10
Hiking12.76 Miles 2,726 AEG
Hiking12.76 Miles
2,726 ft AEG
 
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I started at the Geronimo Trailhead and took the Geronimo Trail to a loop hike, starting with Turkey Springs, then FR 218, and back down West Webber Creek Trail.

I had trouble finding the trail around Turkey Springs, but ultimately was able to get back on it by keeping close the tracks in the official guide. Great views from the Turkey Springs but it was a real grind. I've hiked a bunch of these trails to the Rim, including the Babe Haught Trail just a few days before, but it seemed harder.

I'm glad that I did the West Webber Creek Trail coming back down. It has a lot of shade and it was great to have that on my way back to the trailhead.

I've seen it said that the West Webber Creek Trail is great in fall, and while I hiked in summer, I can totally see where it would be a great fall trail. The vegetation lends itself to that.
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
Some Columbines by the creek and probably a few others in spots that I didn't pay as much attention too. The biggest thing was that the Manzanitas were flowering, particularly near the top of the Rim on the Turkey Springs Trail.
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May 09 2023
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45 male
 Joined Jun 26 2017
 Payson, Arizona
Mogollon Rim Vista LoopPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 09 2023
PaysonRealtorAZTriplogs 10
Hiking14.36 Miles 1,807 AEG
Hiking14.36 Miles   6 Hrs   24 Mns   2.58 mph
1,807 ft AEG      50 Mns Break
 
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I did part of this with Payson Packers Group C, who did a shuttle hike, starting at the 260 Trailhead and ending at the junction of Drew Trail and the Rim.

Enjoyable hike though it should be noted that a portion of the loop from the Drew Trail to Rim Lakes Vista trail, is off trail. There is also a lot of catclaw starting to grow in that section.

There were some downed trees on the Drew Trail, though not so much that I couldn't get by it. I encountered three hikers who were doing the Mogollon Rim Trail thru hike.
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Wildflowers Observation Light
Some Indian Paintbrush at trailhead and other wildflowers along the way, including Lupine. Not an overabundance yet.
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May 02 2023
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45 male
 Joined Jun 26 2017
 Payson, Arizona
Gordon Creek FallsPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
Hiking avatar May 02 2023
PaysonRealtorAZTriplogs 10
Hiking5.05 Miles 659 AEG
Hiking5.05 Miles   3 Hrs   23 Mns   1.59 mph
659 ft AEG      12 Mns Break
 
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I hiked this with the Payson Packers Group C. The path varied off of the official route, part by the group's choice, part by mine. It is a little bit boring until you get to the creek. There was a nice set of falls before the main one. Plenty of creek hopping and a little bit of scramble as you get closer to the main falls. If you want to go below the falls to see them from below, you're definitely looking at a steeper scramble.
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Apr 21 2023
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45 male
 Joined Jun 26 2017
 Payson, Arizona
Bob Bear Trail #18 - Fossil CreekCamp Verde, AZ
Camp Verde, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 21 2023
PaysonRealtorAZTriplogs 10
Hiking8.75 Miles 1,785 AEG
Hiking8.75 Miles
1,785 ft AEG
 
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This is awesome as everyone says that it is. It was also every bit of a grind as everyone says. 🙂 It is a hike that you really need to do.

A couple key things. There are a lot of signs at the start of the trail saying how many rescues there have been, so I want to address that. This is a trail that you need to build up to. ~8.50 miles, 1,400+ elevation difference, rocky trail, and also, this key...uphill going out. I think that it's also easy to spend too much time by/in the water. The old damsite/falls are awesome but I think that it's a mistake to hike down with the intent of spending a couple of hours playing in or hanging out at the water. Even if you are in good shape, you're going to be pushing your limits at times when headed out. There are plenty of other places in Rim Country to enjoy the water, ones where you're not looking at a 4 mile uphill hike when leaving.

The "toilet bowl" is another warning spot. That's right by the old dam/falls. Don't jump in it, a lot of people have drowned there. There's a sign posted for a reason.

There's a lot of interesting history there. Some of the old power plant foundations remain. I wish I had read up on the history before heading down there.
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Nov 12 2022
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45 male
 Joined Jun 26 2017
 Payson, Arizona
Derrick - Highline - Promontory, AZ 
Derrick - Highline - Promontory, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 12 2022
PaysonRealtorAZTriplogs 10
Hiking8.70 Miles 2,435 AEG
Hiking8.70 Miles   5 Hrs   22 Mns   1.62 mph
2,435 ft AEG
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I took the Derrick Trail from Tonto Fish Hatchery Road to the Highline Trail, and then took that a little ways to the Promontory Trail. I then spent a little bit of time on top of Promontory Butte enjoying the great views. It was an awesome adventure but also very grueling. Derrick Trail had a little bit of mud but not too bad. Highline was in good shape. The Promontory Trail was mostly marked good but also had a lot of leaf litter on it.

The Promontory Trail has an especially large elevation gain - ~1,100 feet over .75 miles. A grind but the views make it worthwhile.

The official trail gps from this site for the Derrick and Promontory Trails were very helpful. The Highline is pretty self explanatory.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Isolated
A lot of fall leaf litter on the Promontory Trail. Still a little bit of fall colors - there was one really good spot on the Highline Trail not too far from the Promontory Trail.
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Wildflowers Observation None
No wildflowers observed
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