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Pine Webber Loop, AZ
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Pine Webber Loop, AZ 
Pine Webber Loop, AZ
Hiking avatar Jul 28 2012
Hiking26.80 Miles 5,270 AEG
Hiking26.80 Miles   13 Hrs   51 Mns   2.26 mph
5,270 ft AEG   2 Hrs    Break16 LBS Pack
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1st trip
Parked up top off of 87, crossed through the fence and parked .2 mile down at the TH.
The area took a lot of rain on this day and I was still able to get my 2 Wheel drive up and out with no problem at the end of the day (Phew).

We made our way down the Pine Trail with its sweet views, having the place all to ourselves. We saw a King Snake and shortly there after the quiet in the canyon was gone for a bit. We passed 2 separate Church groups of young ladies (30-40 each).

The East Rim Trail was next up....and I do mean UP. There were spots where I was on all fours going up. This trail is less than .75 miles long and gains +1,100 feet in that time. There are some great views on the way up. Towards the top there is a Boulder/Rock climbing section that's fun.

This trail ends up top and you then follow occasional metal blazes on trees to get out to FR9283L. Now that we have that climbing out of the way, a short walk up top on Milk Ranch Point it was down on West Webber Trail, Milk Ranch Point Trail and met up with the Geronimo Trail. The forest on the way down is very thick and lush. Looks like the fall colors would be incredible.

Geronimo was my least favorite. It's an old road affording little shade from the sun.

East Webber was real nice for awhile. Once you get past the downed BSA Rim Trail sign, It is near impossible, to impossible to follow. What was a trail has been covered with blood stealing 5' tall raspberry type bushes. We trudged on for a bit making almost no headway, finally giving up once the rain started coming down at a heavier pace.

A short lunch in the drizzle and then we were off, trudging back down the muddy Gerinimo sporting our 5 pound shoes. Hiking back up West Webber, the rain had finally stopped. We took a break at the top to change into dry socks. Wrong call as the rain started again.

We had 3 miles of road walking on FR218 which drug on forever. I'd drawn up a route off of FR218, back to the truck which would short cut across the north rim of Pine Canyon. It used some old FR's and some bushwhacking. It should lend some good sunset views. One problem with that plan... it's now after 8pm, it's dark, raining, so no sunset views and all I have are my prescription sunglasses with me. So the glasses are off and I'm hiking blind. Also the roads in places were not there anymore and were replaced with prickly locust trees...

We made the right decision and made our way over to the long way back on a more established trail... FR 300 to SR87 2.5 miles to the truck.

Always an adventure
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Parsnip Spring Pine Creek
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Dickenson Flat Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Parsnip Spring Gallon per minute Gallon per minute
Plenty of clear fresh water in the pool

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max West Webber Creek Medium flow Medium flow
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