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Willow Springs from First Water TH - 13 members in 34 triplogs have rated this an average 3.6 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Dec 27 2025
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Willow Springs from First Water THPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking13.73 Miles 2,136 AEG
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This triplog describes the longer, alternate return route that gives you a spectacular view of Weaver’s Needle. The forecast was rain, but I took a chance and lucked out. It started clearing early, giving me fresh, cool, fragrant air, dappled sun, and beautiful cloud formations to set off the mountains. Perfect.

There was lots of water in the stream. Beautiful. Solitude.

For experienced hikers, this is an easy hike except for the nearly 14-mile distance. The climb up the mountain at the stone corral does not require bushwhacking, but it is steep. I’m 66 and I got tired — but it was still fun. In my younger days this would have been an easy hike. It’s labeled strenuous, and I understand why. This is not a hike to take a date. Don't take the girl (or boy) you’re trying to get into more outdoorsy stuff.

If you don’t have a GPS, you can do this hike — but only if you’re an experienced Supes hiker with solid route-finding ability. That said, this was more fun than other strenuous hikes I’ve done lately. The view of Weaver’s Needle on this route is spectacular.

When you get over the other side of the ridge and start down, maintain your elevation to some extent and go left. This allows you to avoid bushwhacking. When you finally drop down and get on the trail, it hits you — you’re on the Peralta Trail, next to Weavers, and a long way from First Water.

It got dark when I reached the junction where the Peralta Trail meets the Dutchman Trail. I can’t count the number of times, over a 40-year span, that I’ve hiked the last four or five miles of the Dutchman back to First Water in the dark — sometimes exhausted. I can almost do it by moonlight. It was beautiful and majestic.

A final warning: finding the start of the branch trail to Willow Springs from the Dutchman Trail requires some skill or prior reconnoitering if you don’t have a GPS. Following the trail to Tim’s Saddle and on to West Boulder Canyon also requires route finding ability if you don't have a GPS.

Full disclosure: I reconnoitered this area twice before doing the alternate return. Getting back via the regular route is dangerous in the dark (without GPS). It’s actually easier to find your way back to First Water via Peralta. On my first reconnoiter, I was out in the dark at Tim’s Saddle without a GPS. It was an interesting, slightly panicked couple hours, but I made it out. I have good night vision and some ability from years of experience. But I still almost had to sit down and wait for morning. Don’t do that. Don’t be a dumbski like me. Have a GPS and know how to use it if you’re out there in the dark.
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Willow Springs from First Water THPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking11.37 Miles 1,361 AEG
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With the heat slated to make a comeback and the hopefully gradual climb towards summertime temps, I've been trying to maximize my time in the superstitions and other low desert areas. Was combing through a few options when Jason mentioned his previous attempt at Willow Spring - having read Wally's recent trip report and then going back and reading reports from before the burn, I quickly concluded that now would be the best chance for me to make it to the spring and the corral while taking minimal damage from the brush that is sure to grow back.

We had a somewhat leisurely start to the day, arriving at First Water trailhead to find only a handful of cars there. Grasses and new growth are starting to green up the area, though it will take years for the surroundings to recover from the recent burn, likely with a change of character, depending on what plants win the race to reestablish fastest. Given the conditions and previous visits to the area, I was surprised to see a number of plants flowering and was happy to see the ocotillo all floofed out with leaves. We made it to the turnoff quickly (slowed somewhat by my stopping to capture photos of available blooms), and found the trail surprisingly easy to follow, though perhaps not unexpected given how much of the brush is now gone, making the path much easier to spot, allowing us to make good time to Tim's Saddle and down into West Boulder Canyon.

Once we dropped into the drainage proper, we opted to stay predominantly in the watercourse. At one point, we found some horse tracks to follow on canyon right (looking up canyon) - these tracks led us past the remains of the old wire corral. We eventually resumed the rock hopping, admiring the pools of water as we passed them. Eventually, some larger sections of bedrock make an appearance, making the walking even easier, with willow spring not much further along.

The area around willow spring is beautiful - an expanse of slickrock, with a clump of cattails and grasses marking the spring area, along with large clusters of seep monkey flower downstream. After a brief stop, we continued up canyon to have a look at the impressively large stacked stone corral. With all the brush burned away, it was easy to walk around and have a closer look. After wandering around the corral, we returned to the spring to soak up what sun we could before making our way back to the trailhead. Somehow the hike started with very pleasant partly cloudy skies with low winds - but it morphed into steady high winds with strong enough gusts to push me off course at least once or twice with dark clouds building...not only that but we somehow managed to be hiking into the wind both coming and going 😒

Aside from the winds, it was a great day to be out - the clouds made for a striking sky! I appear to be picking up some of Jason's affliction for catclaw, as I managed to get caught in some at least once 😆

Wildlife: A couple desert cottontails, a cardinal, a squirrel, and a garter snake!

Other hikers: only three - surprisingly all near Parker Pass - two hiking out while we were on our way in and one hiking onward as we were descending to rejoin the trail on our way back.
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Surprisingly, only one brittle bush - a variety of other blooms with common storks bill most prevalent.



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Apr 02 2025
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Willow Springs from First Water THPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking11.44 Miles 1,366 AEG
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I attempted to make it to Willow Spring in late 2022; however, once I got into WBC, the brush was so bad that I quickly abandoned the attempt. But after seeing Wally's recent triplog about it being pretty open after the fire and with a day off midweek, I decided to give it another shot, and S was up for it. Only 4 cars in the FW lot when we arrived a little after 8. This was my first time hiking out of FW since the Siphon fire and it was as bad as I expected as we were in the burn the entire way. Quickly made it up to Parker Pass and cut over on the path up to the first saddle, down into O'Grady Canyon, and back up to Tim's Saddle. The trail is in great shape, I would say better then some trails out east. The brush was minimal from the fire, but Wally is correct in that I did come across a couple of catclaw bushes that gave me a friendly hello. As we got to Tim's Saddle, the wind really picked up, and clouds started making their way in, but it was still comfortable. Made it down into WBC, where I bailed last time, and as expected nothing was left except crispy sticks and rocks. There are carins scattered in WBC, but each time we attempted to follow them, they led us into a soot-filled adventure, so we chose to remain in the creek. Came across a small pool near the large boulder section (where OWBC comes in). As we continued, the canyon opened up a bit, and we found horse tracks that led up the west bank, which was a nice reprieve from rock hopping. and from this point up to Willow Springs, there are several large swimming pools to take a dip in. As the canyon turns to the left right before Willow Springs the burn gets bad, but surprisingly spared the brush at Willow Springs. Nice light flow at the spring area as we had lunch and relaxed for a bit. Continued briefly up canyon to check out the stone corral. Nothing in this area survived the fire, just some small new growth, but very minimal. After spending some time at the corral, we started back. At this point, the clouds thickened, and the wind was easily gusting to 25+ MPH, which made it a miserable 5-mile hike back to FW, especially since I am dealing with some bronchitis (pretty not the smartest idea to be hiking in) ](*,). Uneventful hike back to FW besides the misery of the wind as I tried to keep my whining to a minimum. We came across three people near Parker Pass and that was it for the day. If you have even wanted to visit Willow Springs now is the time, before the brush comes back. Thanks S for joining me. :)
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Some isolated flowers coming back from the burn.


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Pools scattered up canyon.

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Nice sized pools.
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I've been under the weather for the past 10 days but decided to hike anyway. The weather was nice and there was a good breeze keeping the hike cool. The dutchman trail is open and easy to follow. Someone took a pack animal down the spur trail so that helped me follow it.
The spur trail is open but since the fire there's a lot of open. I'm sure Jason could find some catclaw but this was the easiest off-trail I've done in a while. West Boulder Canyon is wide open for the taking. I did try a few of the old trail sections along the side but it was nice to just hike down the open creek. Water was flowing a little half way up and there where several clear deep pools if you wanted to filter or submerge.
There was a nice high bench I hiked up to looking for sign of prior humans but nothing was there.
I was feeling a little taxed at this point but decided to look around the bend and once I saw Willow Spring there was no turning back. The area is burned but that makes the rock corral very visible. I stopped to take photos and headed back. My ears plugged somewhere along the way and no I can barely hear but the hike was worth it. :lol:
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Perfect conditions call for desperate measures! So, I broke my loose shuttle rule, dropping the motorcycle early at First Water TH and then heading around to Carney Springs. In the dim morning light, I noticed that some good soul has erased the stupid spray-painted arrows from the boulders along the route (at least until the Wave Cave junction). I've wanted to do just that for some time but have always found something more fun to do. Thank you, Forest Service, or whoever it was. It seemed the steep ascent to West Boulder Saddle was slow, but I still gained the pass in under an hour. To access West Boulder Canyon, one just continues to follow the Supes Ridgeline route west for another half mile past the saddle. The rocks at the canyon's head were super slippery from the hydrated lichens and water seeps, but these first steep sections were still a fairly manageable downclimb. The route gets junglelike (as arizonaheat warns), but not as bad as I'd expect from looking at the unburnt canyon from above. Each time the creek bed seemed impassable, I would just ascend slightly right and traverse, staying on the east side of the canyon until about the 3.3-mile point. Eventually one must don the water shoes and wade into the water to frolic with the Fishy Paddle Maggots. The rock corral was at the five-mile mark and was the only really crappy catclaw bushwack that actually tore my shirt. The water level ebbs and flows depending on terrain (exposed rock or gravel) and how much water is merging from every side drainage. Most of the canyon is absolutely enchanting in its current state. On my previous two trips here, the huge clumps of grass below Willow Spring were such a hassle, in that you couldn't see if there were snakes or know where to step for solid footing. However, the large grass is currently dead and flattened by flooding from the recent storms and the hangry snakes haven't emerged (yet). I exited via Tims Saddle because that's the route I thought the guide described. Consequently, I may go back again sometime to complete the last, lower section of the canyon but I doubt it's as nice as the upper part.
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Beautiful and gritty!
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Nov 04 2022
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I've had a visit to Willow Springs on my list for a bit now and decided to give it a try. A chilly 40 degrees when I started off on the Dutchman to Parker Pass. There is a 'trail' near Parker Pass that heads over a couple of saddles and into West Boulder Canyon. Made it to the first saddle and headed down into O'Grady Canyon and up to Tim's Saddle where any trace of the trail disappeared. There were a couple small sections of it here and there but not much else and the cairns that were there led to nowhere. Oh and did I mention the catclaw? Yeah TONS of it that had a field day with my legs. Got down into the canyon and just when I thought it couldn't get any worse, it did. The canyon was choked with catclaw, and you could not even boulder hop the creek as it was filled with Buffel Grass that was as tall as me and underneath all of that grass were some good size ankle breaker rocks. Made the decision to not continue on. Found a nice shady spot under some bedrock by the creek to relax for a bit and remove the catclaw thorns from my legs and headed back. A little bloody overall but still a great day in the Superstitions.
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Decided to take a trip out West Boulder Canyon to view up close the damage done by the recent fire. This was our 5th trip so we are both pretty familiar with the area.

The use trail that leaves the Dutchman Trail at Parker Pass is in pretty nice shape overall. The first section up and down to O'Grady Canyon saw no fire damage and is easy to follow. The section across O'Grady Canyon that climbs up and over Tim's Pass was torched. The trail itself is easy to follow and easy to side step any charred branches.

The fire damage in West Boulder Canyon is mostly on the west side. Where it did burn it looks like it burned very hot. Unfortunately the Old Wire Corral site that Adolf Ruth most likely used during his short stay in the wilderness was destroyed, leaving only the wire itself remaining. It will be pretty tough to stomach if you were one of the lucky ones to see it pre-fire. The nice campsite along the bank was also destroyed.

Willow Spring had a light flow and the reeds are starting to grow back.

The Barkley Stone Corral is still in tact and saw no fire damage at all, still a vegetation nightmare to try to get in so I took a picture from a high point looking down.

Got a little warm on the trek out but not to bad.
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A trip through O'Grady Canyon and up into Old West Boulder Canyon. The section of O'Grady Canyon from Tim's Saddle to Old Wets Boulder Canyon was easy going. The lower section of Old West Boulder Canyon is good but gets rougher and starts to choke the farther up you travel. There are some nice views up and down the canyon and a good look at Tortilla Peak and the top of Black Mountain. A nice place to avoid the crowd.
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Took off for a Saturday solo hike to enjoy the last of this cooler weather.

Decided to do the Black Mesa Loop clockwise. I'd hiked out to Second Water Spring in January as part of a longer loop. This time, wanted to cut down on Black Mesa to see what it was like.

Couple nice views of Four Peaks near the junction of Black Mesa and Second Water. Hike takes you up and over, eventually to a giant flat area that is probably used for group camping. Weaver's Needle is prominent on the trail the rest of the way.

Made it down the white rock and decided to scramble up on the last rock ledge section before the trail dropped all the way down to the bottom of the valley.

Found an old rusty horse ring near the top. Great views of the needle and everything else.

About 100 yards before Dutchman Trail, the dry creek bed looks like a trail to the right, and a couple hikers ahead of me went that way. I saw the cairns to the left to finish off Black Mesa. Saw those folks a bit later on, bushwhacking back to the real trail.

At one point I took a break, pulled out my map and decided I'd take a side trip to check out Tim's Saddle. Found the turn-off to the saddle pretty easily and headed up and over. The trail is small but pretty good tread and well marked. Great view from the saddle. Wanted to keep going but will need to save the trek all the way out to Willow Spring for another day.
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Dec 26 2017
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I needed 12.5 miles to get to my goal for 2017. I had seen this trail on HAZ but in 43 years of hiking the Dutchman I had never noticed the trail branching off. Sure enough there it was. It's really kind of a neat little trail. Quite overgrown in many areas, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. Fritzski was totally correct beautiful views from several places on the trail and again at Tim's Saddle. But all that changed when you get to the bottom of the hill from Tim's Saddle. That is when the trail ends and you hit West Boulder "Creek" Other than 5 or 6 little puddles it was totally dry. And those puddles would have made a frog claustrophobic. I originally tried to find some sort of trail, but I think the only thing that lives there is catclaw, prickly pear and cholla. In 45 miutes the best I did was to get to the house sized boulder mentioned by Fritzski. At this point I decided to just turn around and live to do battle another day.

I then figured I'd use Black Mesa Loop to get the rest of the 12.5 miles I needed.

The sun was bright and very warm. Every once in a while a breeze would sneak through. Not many people on the trails most were probably there on Christmas day.
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If you want to hike out to Willow Spring, use the posted trail. Do not follow the route I took on the first half of my hike today. I did this hike for the workout (bouldering rocks!) plus a chance to see some new stuff.

The first part of the hike followed the FW Upper Creek Loop. When the creek trail bends back towards Dutchman, I continued south following a route I picked up from the SAR website. The route was what I expected for the most part, until I ran into a jungle, then it got nasty for a bit. I must have missed a turn, cause I can't imagine anyone wanting to go through that. After reviewing my route a week later and comparing it to the SAR route, I did miss a turn; I should have stayed above the fray and skirted around to the NE, where the brush ends, before bending back to the SE.

Merged onto WB canyon at the end of the SAR route, then bumpy smooth sailing to the spring. Good water at the spring, but nothing (or nothing good) anywhere else.

Snapped some pics at Willow Spring, then headed over to the stone corral to see if I could find some good shots there. I found the south anchorage and I could see the anchorage on the other side. I am assuming that the thick brush that's there now must have been there when Adolf Ruth cleared that out and built the wall. It's truly amazing what people were willing to do out here in this wilderness.

I followed the official Willow Spring route back to FW trailhead. Ignore the large cairn to your left as you head back. The cairn invites you to leave the creek into the bush to the west. It's part of the official route, but it's so overgrown in there that you'll quickly regret leaving the creek. I did.

I exited WB creek along a cairned route below Tim's Saddle and followed the path up and over Tim's and another saddle farther along. I hooked up with Dutchman again at Parker Pass. I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed Dutchman after all of that boulder hopping.

Fun hike, but only if you like off trail and boulder hopping. Lot's of both today. The weather was perfect. I didn't see anyone (and didn't expect to) until the last couple of miles on the Dutchman trail. Then I saw a few families enjoying the outdoors on a gorgeous Sunday afternoon.
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Pools in the reeds, trickling out and down the slick rock as you approach.
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Been dealing with a chest cold this week, few better ways of clearing the lungs out than a fun Supes loop :lol:

Started around five from First Water TH, was the first parked car there. Weird - think its the first time I've seen it empty. Weather was great this morning with temps around 73, cloud cover after the sunrise kept it below 90 until ten-ish. Trail up and over Parker Pass is in great shape (if a bit boring after hiking it n times). Bumped into first rattler on the way down the pass, scared the be-jeebus out of me. 104 between Palomino and Black Top is a bit overgrown. Peralta was good except for one section, the part around the 6 mile mark on my route that had a bunch of cairns and forking trails that was confusing to get through. The spot I chose to go off-trail to cut up and over the ridge turned out to be pretty easy to climb and made for a hard descent (like any good off-trail descent in the Supes, I guess). Water at the spring looked questionable, could be filtered in a pinch, but there is some very clean and large pools downstream. Lots and lots of tadpoles and tiny frogs. Old trail up and over Tim's Saddle was in good shape, only lost it few times when things got overgrown and it wasn't hard to re-find. The only two hikers seen today was on the way back, along 104.

Drank - 6 liters (filtered 2 from Willow)

Note to self - should probably start bringing a pair of clips for these "unofficial trail" wanders.
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Spring area was pretty green and ugly looking, but there are cleaner pools downstream on-and-off for the next mile.
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It's funny how different hikes can bring out different feelings. Last week I drove up to Prescott and jogged Willow Trail. After completing the run I felt charged, almost euphoric. Imagine a puppy dog with his tail wagging looking for his next treat. Today, after finishing Willow Springs via FW (mileage similar to last week's run) the sentiment was thank goodness :sweat: ...I made it. Now, where's the nearest QT, because I need to refuel.

When doing hikes that I'm not overly familiar with I'll try to plan appropriately. For this hike, I downloaded the route onto my Garmin, printed out Fritski's trail description even made sure I had my clippers in my car in case I needed to do any trimming of bushes. I got about 2 miles from the house and realized I didn't have everything I needed. I wanted to be prepared so I went back. Got to the FW Trailhead around 5:30. A little later than I wanted but not too bad. I beat the rush, as I was the first car there. Signed the trail register and noticed that Fritz had been out there on 8/2. I guess I got preoccupied wondering if that Fritz was my inspiration for the hike. I was .3 miles into my hike when I realized that my clippers never made it into my backpack...they were still sitting on the front seat of my car. ](*,) Decision time. Continue on or go back. I've bushwhacked before without clippers; they're more of a luxury. So, "onward the Light Brigrade". I was about .9 miles down the trail (on the Dutchman by then) when I realized that I had left Fritzski's trail description at the trail register ](*,) ](*,) . Sometimes I really amaze myself. And this is me trying to be prepared :( . Decision time. Continue on or go back. I had my Garmin with the downloaded route and a backpack with water, so "was there a man dismayed, not though the soldier knew".

Despite my incompetence when it comes to preparation for hikes once I get out there I tend to do all right. I had the track manger open most of the time early on because I wasn't sure where Parker's Pass was and the consequential turn off from the Dutchman, so my distances are rough approximations. From the FW Trailhead I'd say I was about 2.9 miles in when I came to Parker's Pass and the turn off. Initially, I didn't see the side trail and I did some legitimate bushwacking as I tried to "connect to that blue line on my Garmin." However, once I found the side trail, it really wasn't too bad. I followed it easily enough to O'Grady's Canyon. I did lose it briefly in the creek bed prior to climbing the slope to Tim's Saddle, but once I got back on I was able to get to West Boulder Canyon (WBC) without incident. This side trail was overgrown badly in several places, but I didn't feel that the Cat'c Claw or prickly pear was that bad. It was more Jojoba and other non-prickly vegetation. The spider webs were annoying though. Rough estimate: I would say it was about 1 mile from the Dutchman to WBC.

Once I got to WBC, the "trail" opened up quite a bit. There really wasn't a trail from this point on (I didn't see very many cairns to be honest...but there was a good-sized one where the trail from Tim's Saddle connects to the WBC), but the canyon was fairly expansive enough that I was able to navigate the terrain fairly "easily" without getting my feet wet or having to climb canyon walls. Yep, I said get my feet wet. :) I followed WBC for almost 2.75 miles (this is based off my rough estimates of getting to WBC) and for 2 miles of it there was flowing water. Most of the time the water wasn't that deep so I was able to rock hop along the side of the stream. As I was doing this part of the hike it would have been nice to have had Fritzski's trail description and pictures. As I was hiking I kept trying to identify Fritzski's "notables". I didn't have a problem with the house sized boulder. That one I got. (Very cool area, by the way). But I couldn't for the life of me, pick out Willow Springs. I came across three places where cattails or even marsh reeds were growing. The spot where the marsh reeds were, looked the most like the picture, but I don't think there was a willow tree there. After the hike, but before doing this triplog, I read a previous write up and hikerdw from 2013 said the cattails/marsh reeds had been washed away by a monsoon storm. So it may be that the tree stands alone and I went right by it without even realizing it. Speaking of going right by... I went right by the Rudolph's rock corral. I was following the little blue line on my Garmin and it took me about .5 miles past the peninsula and the corral. The reason I know this, is because on the return trip I was very lucky to catch a glimpse of the corral. Talk about overgrown! I could just barely make out what I think was the described corral in Fritzski's trail description. It was just on the south side near the tip of the peninsula. I never saw the wire corral, though I did come across a bench with a "sticked" cairn that makes me think that might have been the place. On the way out, I retraced my steps. I was curious to see where I had lost the user trail at O'Gradys Creek and at the Dutchman juncture.

This was a rough hike. Not so much because of the distance, but because of the nature of the trails. The Durchman and even the connector trails weren't that bad. But I think rocky nature of the WBC really took its toll. There was a lot of up and down and stretching and contorting that you don't typically do on most hikes. Plus, I must admit that I did end up walking a couple of miles in wet shoes. As unintentional as it was, the water did feel very nice and my shoes and socks did dry out fairly quickly. The other factor that made this a rough hike were the temps and humidity and very little wind. The air was stiffiling. :sweat: . Due to my departure time, I had nice temps and shade for the first 5 miles but after that it was sun exposed the whole time. Wildlife included a horny toad, deer, a couple of snakes (one of which slithered away in inch deep water flowing down the WBC) a dozen lizards, a handful of frogs and hundreds of tadpoles. I didn't see any hikers while I was out and when I got back to the TH I was still the only car there. On the Dutchman, I did find a very nice hat (it was not a Steelers hat though), so if anyone knows of someone who lost a hat on the Dutchman please let me know. It is in nice shape, probably left on the trail for less than day.
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Our annual hike to Willow Spring. This trip we hiked out to the spring via O'Grady Canyon and Old West Boulder Canyon to change things up. Old West Boulder Canyon was very overgrown with head high vegetation which made for slow hiking. While taking a break at the saddle just above OWBC a deer walked by us very peacefully. I doubt it even saw us.

Willow Spring is full and overflowing. On the trip back we climbed up the bench to take a peak at the remains of the wire corral most likely used by Adolf Ruth during his short stay in the area back in 1931.
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Several pools in the canyon between the Dutchman Trail and Old West Boulder Canyon.

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Multiple pools.

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Large pools in the lower part of the canyon.

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The spring is full and overflowing.
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Few things in life are as great as inspiration. Daisy chain two Fritzski adventures on a pleasant day for memories of a lifetime.

Part I - Aylor's Arch
This was my first visit. I expected it to deliver and it was better than anticipated. The micro environment in the ravine is lush compared to the immediate surrounding desert terrain. Palomino is one thin and tall facade of a mountain. There is plenty to explore on the multiple ridges up top. Luckily Bruce came prepared so we could have a little fun!

Par II - Little Boulder Canyon
This looked like the perfect avenue to tackle Peralta-Boulder Ridge, our next destination. Nary a tale has tickled my eardrums on the "upper" poriton of Little Boulder. True be it ( in full fess mode )... I was looking to raise an eyebrow on the Liberty Dutch Hunter.

No such luck on Wally Relics. On the bright side we made some excellent spur of the moment decisions ( aka rare ). After passing a bush the size of a maple abandon Little Boulder to your right heading up canyon. Here we picked up a nice ascent to the NW end of the Peralta-Boulder Ridge. Bring some kleenex. The further up you go you will be crying at the beautiful scenery.

Part III - Peralta-Boulder Ridge
The Eagle, the Turtle & I knocked out the SE 1/3rd March of last year. Bruce & I knocked off the NW 1/3rd today. Some may find it tedious, simply enjoyable in my opinion. The entire ridge over to Fremont Saddle is under 3 miles. Better eat your jj3/Dave1 Wheaties if you plan on doing a loop as a day hike.

Intermission - Lunch on 4003
Noteworthy to mention. With knowledge of the surrounding terrain... Four Double Oh Three ROCKS the house for lunch views!

Part IV - Willow Grand Finale
Bruce picked out a good line down to the gooseneck in West Boulder Creek seemingly directly below. While my mind was geared up for bushwhacking, that never happened. In fact, the descent was pleasant. West Boulder Creek charmed us back to the 104. Afternoon ridge-shade advantage eased the journey. Willow Spring seems like a dependable source. It's been a good six? weeks since worthy rain. Wonder how much evaporates daily... 200-500 gallons?

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Excellent hike!
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Perhaps under a quart a minute. Huge clear shallow pools. Tiny cascades in areas. Appears to go under ground then resurface between pools.
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Time to hit some new areas in the Supes.

Palomino Mountain / Aylor's Arch
From the 1st Water TH it's 4.3 miles to the lightly used, unmarked turn off from the Dutchman, down Little Boulder Creek to the 4.75 mark just past the Red Rock Spires. Take a turn to the East (Left) and Aylor's Arch comes into view, at the 5.2 mile mark, following the cairned route, you are on top of Palomino Mountain.

There were far better views than I expected up here. We took our time and explored the top of the mountain and the Arch. I'll be back up here again...

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Someone put a Mailbox, with a sign in register up 2 years ago (1/31/12). It's mounted to a steel post and very secure.

Next it was time to go back down the way we came, and head SW up Little Boulder Canyon, and eventually hitting the NW edge of the Ridgeline that we were to travel on to the SE. This Ridgeline is unnamed (Boulder Ridge?), but rises to as high as 4003 feet between East Boulder Canyon and Boulder Canyon to the west. From the base of Palomino, to the high point on the ridge, we rose 1650'. We saw a few deer on the scramble up.

Travel on the ridge is slow, boulder hopping, mild climbing and foliage dodging. You get a whole new perspective of the Supes from up here. 1.5 miles scrambling along the ridgeline and it was time to drop down to the west and Willow Spring.

Water was actually flowing slightly at the spring. It could be seen off and on for at least a mile downstream from the spring.

We took West Boulder Canyon all the way to the Dutchman and back to the car.

We passed and then later talked with an older gentleman and his wife who had a Hike Arizona Trip Description as a guide in their possession.

The weather couldn't have been much nicer in the Supes.

Good times HAZman....
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Plenty of filterable water.
Water from the spring could be found as far as a mile down stream.
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Went looking for Willow Spring without any direction, so ended up walking down O Grady creek until it met West Boulder, then turned and walked up West Boulder. It was slow going on the giant rocks, but its a a pretty canyon. When I got to the spring I wasn't sure what actually was spring, as many rocks around the large pool were trickling water. Turns out the pool with the reeds IS the spring, cool! :y: Plenty of water in many spots on the way in as well as lots flowing over the rocks from the pool formed at the spring. on the way back crossed Tim's saddle (completely off trail, couldn't find one) because I figured it had a name due to being a route of travel. I did find the trail on the Saddle and took it down to O Grady Creek, but I followed the creek thru the canyon because (once again) lost the trail. What a cool canyon! Little pools and waterfalls. Next trip I think I would try to climb the saddle near Wilow Spring and catch the view of the Needle from there. What a fun, if meandering and trailess, hike!!
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I saw two little Flowers in the slot canyon, somehow survived the runoff and bloom in January? Anyway it was cool :)

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There is a narrow section right where the Coordinates are, it had several really nice pools with a trickle flowing down. Also down just before the confluence theres a rocky area the water came back to the surface flowing then returning under the sand & small rocks.

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Trickling water coming to the surface in rocky areas

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In sections a good amount of flow, where it was on the surface. Many frogs :)

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Plenty of water around and flowing out across the rock very well
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Wanted to check out the state of Willow Spring after a long hot summer so today was that day. Some observations from our last trip out there.

1. The spur trail off the Dutchman Trail was slightly more overgrown and eroded in some spots.
2. The effects of the heavy monsoon rains could be seen in West Boulder Canyon, high water lines and rock shiftings.
3. As a result of the heavy water flow, the reeds (cattails) that were growing out of Willow Spring were all cleared out.

Glad to report the spring itself was full and spilling out of the rock bed after the hot summer :y:

On the return instead of taking the spur trail we continued the boulder hopping down the WBC to meet up with the Dutchman Trail and then sailed back to the trail head.

Great mid-October hike in the Superstition Wilderness :D
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Ya gotta believe it.....everything Fritzski wrote about this hike is gospel, the good, the bad and the excitement along the way.

The Forest Service was tipped off to a stash of supplies that were found in the vicinity of Willow Springs so we put a team together to locate the stash and remove it from the Wilderness. The team consisted of 6 Forest Service employees, some of us were volunteers, to make the hike into West Boulder Canyon and try to find this stash without specific coordinates to go by.

We left First Water TH shortly after 0800 and made good time down the Dutchman's Trail to Parker Pass where we left the main trail. From this point on, there are no more trail markers, only the existing seldom used trails (yes, there are still seldom used trails out here). We followed the trail to Tim's Saddle where we had a breathtaking view of the West Boulder Canyon below us in the yet early morning.

There were high, broken, wispy clouds tearing across the sky, signaling an omen of an approaching weather front. But today the sun was bright and the temps in the low 70's as we made our way down the rocky hills to Boulder Creek. Now the luxury of hiking trails is past and we are now confronted with bushwhacking, boulder hopping and climbing around obstacles that nature has placed at some of the worst locations. But it's a beautiful journey into the history rich canyon that seems to be bypassed by the speed hikers of today.

The trail(?) appears and disappears as we wound our way through the ever present Catclaw and hungry Prickley Pear cactus, and when the trails ran out, it was down to the creek bed.We found the remains of an old Barbed Wire Corral that barely exists today. The wooden posts are aged and will soon be consumed by the desert, but the wire will remain for several more decades. A short distance away is an awesome campsite along the creek with benches made from the local rocks and even a flag pole.

From this point on, the canyon narrowed and it was strictly rock hopping and rock climbing until we were confronted with the Giant Boulder that Fritzski mentioned in his hike description. We decided that this was a good place to have lunch and enjoy the serenity of the moment and the incredible scenery that was all around us :) I was the only one of the group that wore a short sleeve shirt so for the second day in a row, my forearms were bloodied by the unending Catclaw and I had to wash off before I could enjoy my lunch :(

Following the break, it was off and around the Giant Boulder and after more rock hopping, we arrived at Willow Spring. This is a magical spot along the creek with a large expanse of flat rock and the clear water slowly spilling across its surface. We would like to have spent more time here, but the hour was getting late and we still had the return trip facing us, so we slipped into our packs again and wearily (now) began retracing our breadcrumb trail.

The wind was whipping up now, the clouds had vanished and the sun seemed a lot warmer than the 72 degrees that had been predicted, but we pushed on until we finally arrived back at the trail head. Yes, we did find a large plastic drum of supplies hidden back there along the way and plans are being made for its removal.

We have an amazing wilderness at our front door and it's the duty of all of us to maintain the quality of this resource so that our children and grandchildren can enjoy it as much as we have. Sometimes I think I'm :bdh: while :SB: but that's my :M2C:
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Water's still flowing at the trail crossings but not enough to get your feet wet.

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The creek is flowing in most places so the pools are full and the sounds of water can be heard.

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A steady trickle of water was coming out of the mouth of the canyon.

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A good steady flow of water flowed across the expanse of flat rock.
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