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Robbers Roost Canyon - Tonto NF - 6 members in 10 triplogs have rated this an average 3.8 ( 1 to 5 best )
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May 02 2021
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 Phoenix
Carney Springs Waterfall from LGM EastPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar May 02 2021
ScottHikaTriplogs 50
Hiking4.00 Miles
Hiking4.00 Miles
14 LBS Pack
 
The weather is warming up and headed back to Carney Springs from Lost Goldmine trail. Today I visited the Carney Springs waterfall from LGM east. You can of course get there from Carney Springs TH. A very little bit of recent rain has helped the desert green-up some. 2020 in the Superstitions was a lot like 2020 in rest of the world, barren! Hopefully the drought will break and things will get back to normal before going into the summer. In order for the Carney Waterfall to flow, there really needs to be a lot of rain.

This visit was just to check the social trail and confirm the route so that others can visit the base of the falls too. We have been going to the wall for years, but I don’t know many other people that know about the faint trail. Carney has a beautiful hidden baby canyon with a pocket of high cliffs all around. There are unique views and often a mild breeze inside. It's a rare sight to catch it flowing. Climbers will love this access to the wall. The photoset tells the story of my morning hike. I uploaded the route. I’m writing a guide but it will take me a while.
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Feb 20 2016
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57 male
 Joined Apr 25 2011
 Goodyear, AZ
Dacite Super LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 20 2016
NightstalkerTriplogs 1,742
Hiking9.19 Miles 2,255 AEG
Hiking9.19 Miles   6 Hrs   41 Mns   1.97 mph
2,255 ft AEG   2 Hrs   1 Min Break16 LBS Pack
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Took my hiking buddies Tricia and Christina out for a Superstitions loop, and it was Super! Parked at Lost Goldmine Trailhead were there was one car already waiting. We hiked clockwise starting on Lost Goldmine, up Carney, did the horseshoe on Dacite Mesa and dealt with the masses returning on Peralta. Saw a couple of groups on the way up, no one on Dacite Mesa, and plenty on Peralta. Trail on Dacite Mesa was easy enough to follow and the rock formations were amazing!
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Jan 24 2016
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 Joined Jun 19 2009
 AZ
Robbers Roost Canyon - Tonto NFPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Canyoneering avatar Jan 24 2016
oceanwithinTriplogs 579
Canyoneering4.00 Miles 2,000 AEG
Canyoneering4.00 Miles
2,000 ft AEG
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AWESOME!!! Super steep hike up Carney, a few short rappels, some crazy bushwhacking. Loved the big rappel, it was so nice and sloping and didn't feel as long as it really is. It was a great day with awesome peeps followed by instant sushi happiness! :y:
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Jan 24 2016
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 Joined Mar 01 2010
 Phoenix, AZ
Robbers Roost Canyon - Tonto NFPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Canyoneering avatar Jan 24 2016
juliachaosTriplogs 627
Canyoneering6.00 Miles 2,000 AEG
Canyoneering6.00 Miles
2,000 ft AEG
Intermediate Canyoneering - Difficult or dangerous; Tech Climb; rope reqd; descent anchor; exit technical;
A - Dry or little water; shallow or avoidable water; no wet/dry suit
II - Normally requires a half day
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Fun technical canyon, starting at Robbers Roost. First rap is short, just a puddle at the bottom but we managed around it with a little help. Second rap is a short downclimb from there. Then comes a long period of bushwhacking and following a thorny creekbed. Final rap is long; a lot of fun. Also a little water at the bottom, but easy to avoid. We had about nine people in the party, started around 7:30(?) and got back to the lot around 1:30. It was slow going, so with a smaller party you can explore around a bit more. See the earliest triplogs to get a better idea of what to expect.

I stole a couple pics from Ben's album... just the one of James rappelling is mine. But Ben had better pics.
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Feb 09 2013
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Ridgeline Loop - Supps, AZ 
Ridgeline Loop - Supps, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 09 2013
topohikerTriplogs 3,540
Hiking26.14 Miles 5,983 AEG
Hiking26.14 Miles   13 Hrs   24 Mns   2.94 mph
5,983 ft AEG   4 Hrs   30 Mns Break
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Two words for day: Cold and Windy!

On the drive to the TH, I saw two coyotes' and two deer crossing the dirt road.
The three of us started at the Crosscut TH. There was snow and a low hanging cloud on the top layers of the syphon draw.

Fans lead the charge up to the Flat Iron. Once on top the clouds started to break-up and the cold wind started blowing.
Whenever we had a choice of going up or around a ridge, we choose going around staying out of the wind.

We took lunch about a 1/2 mile from the Carney Springs turnoff. We ran into some backpackers that Fan knew. The backpackers were going from Syphon Draw to Canyon Lake. They were new to the Supps and asked about which trails to take.

We headed towards Robbers Roost. We went past the Old West Boulder canyon turn and Fan talked us into taking a new trail to the left. She was certain it was a short-cut to the Peraltra trail. The trail was well cairned and parallel the Robbers Roost trail for a bit, then it bee lined right to Freemont Saddle. The last 1/4 mile was a bunch of drainages and 3 to 5 foot drops. My knees didn't like this part.

We took Peraltra to Dutchman to First Waters TH. It snowed off and on going down the Peraltra. It was warmed now, being lower and out of the wind.
We made it to the Black Mesa trail before turning on the flashlights. The creeks had a good waters flow to them.

The sun was a tease the entire day. We could see AJ had sunshine but, we only had about 10 minutes of sun for the entire day.
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Apr 14 2012
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 Joined Jan 25 2009
 Phoenix, AZ
Superstition RidgelinePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Apr 14 2012
Dave1Triplogs 1,802
Hiking25.16 Miles 6,592 AEG
Hiking25.16 Miles   9 Hrs   36 Mns   2.87 mph
6,592 ft AEG      50 Mns Break
 
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Started at Crosscut TH at about 7:15a. Up to Flatiron (saw a big group of SAR people coming down, 20+) and across The Ridgeline, stopping at peak 5057 of course. Stopped by Robber's Roost on the way to Freemont Saddle. I finally got into RR on the first try! From Freemont, took Peralta to Dutchman back to First Water Road.
The skies were threatening rain all day but I stayed mostly dry. It hailed for a few minutes near Robber's Roost and I felt a few sprinkles near Weaver's Needle but that was it. It was, however, extremely windy on the Ridgeline and my face suffered some windburn. I had planned on a longer hike, possibly going up Squaw Canyon to check out upper Deering canyon but it looked like they were getting rain over there and I didn't want to push my luck. Great day to be in the Supes!
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Feb 25 2012
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45 male
 Joined Aug 03 2008
 Chandler, AZ
Robbers Roost Canyon - Tonto NFPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Canyoneering avatar Feb 25 2012
knmurphyTriplogs 222
Canyoneering4.00 Miles 2,000 AEG
Canyoneering4.00 Miles
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Feb 05 2012
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 Joined Oct 29 2005
 Scottsdale, AZ
Superstition RidgelinePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Feb 05 2012
topohikerTriplogs 3,540
Hiking25.60 Miles 6,707 AEG
Hiking25.60 Miles   13 Hrs      2.79 mph
6,707 ft AEG   3 Hrs   50 Mns Break
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We did the Ridgeline as loop. I parked at the Cross-Cut TH. We hiked Cross-cut to Siphon draw to Ridgeline to Robbers Roost to Freemont Saddle. Then Peralta to Dutchman to First Water TH. Then the FR to Jeep.

There's an unofficial sign at the Carney Springs turnoff, Robbers Roost intersection. The post looks like an official post, but the sign is piece of tree bark with "Carney Springs 1.8 miles" burns into it.
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Jan 21 2012
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 San Diego, CA
Robbers Roost Canyon - Tonto NFPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Canyoneering avatar Jan 21 2012
azmikeTriplogs 22
Canyoneering4.00 Miles 2,000 AEG
Canyoneering4.00 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   0.73 mph
2,000 ft AEG
Intermediate Canyoneering - Difficult or dangerous; Tech Climb; rope reqd; descent anchor; exit technical;
A - Dry or little water; shallow or avoidable water; no wet/dry suit
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This trip to Robbers Roost takes the traditional route up from the Carney Springs TH but instead of returning through Peralta TH, we did three rappels as we worked our way down the canyon below Robbers Roost. The longest rappel being 240 ft.

We parked the vehicle at the Carney Spring TH just off of Peralta Rd. There was just three of us on this technical canyoneeering trip, so we felt like we should make good time getting through the rappels. An AHOTE group of 20+ had started out just before us on a Ridge Line hike with a key exchange in the middle.

We hiked up Carney Springs to the mesa and Boulder Saddle. We then headed east along the top towards Robbers Roost. There's not much of a trail but cairns lead the way to the Roost. Once we arrived at the Roost, we did an optional rappel down into the Roost just because we wanted to. :) I won't count that rappel. Once in the Roost, we encountered a 10-12 ft rappel and then a short down climb.

Making our way down from there we reached a 80 ft 2-drop rappel. The only difficulty with this rappel was negotiating around a prickly pear cactus halfway down. We managed to get around it without much trouble.

Now the fun starts. :tt: In front of this 80 ft rappel is the canyon just below Robbers Roost where we would find the final rappel. We bushwhacked for about 0.5 miles until we reach the 240 ft rappel. Long pants are mandatory as the catclaw is thick. Be careful not to hike over the 240 ft rappel. It is pretty well obscured by brush on the left side.

We used a 30 ft piece of webbing to anchor to a boulder straight back from the edge. The rappel is a pretty nice one with a gradual slope through most of the rappel. We had no issues on the retrieval. You can easily see this rappel from the Carney Springs trail. As you're hiking up the trail, the rappel will be on the right and is marked black from the waterfall. It was dry when we were there.

After the 240 ft rappel, we then bushwhacked over to the Carney Springs trail and back to the vehicle.

Photos and more details at http://canyoneering-sw.blogspot.com/
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Jan 14 2012
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 Gilbert, AZ
Robbers Roost Canyon - Tonto NFPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Canyoneering avatar Jan 14 2012
VapormanTriplogs 931
Canyoneering4.00 Miles 2,000 AEG
Canyoneering4.00 Miles   6 Hrs      0.67 mph
2,000 ft AEG
Intermediate Canyoneering - Difficult or dangerous; Tech Climb; rope reqd; descent anchor; exit technical;
A - Dry or little water; shallow or avoidable water; no wet/dry suit
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After working a halfday, I ran out with some friends to hit this short & sweet local canyon. The Roost gets some action but I doubt many parties have continued down & descended the canyon. :sweat: The hike starts just like a regular Robbers Roost trip by hiking up Carney Springs trail to West Boulder Saddle and take the use trail east along the mesa to the canyon that the Roost is in. We geared up in the there and did a short 10ft drop to a down climb to another 80ft double drop rappel. From there it's mucho bushwhacking down the open drainage though it eventually reaches a nice slickrock section. We were getting short on time as we kept pushing for the big drop but after much thrashing & down climbing we eventually reached it. We setup the 240ft drop and started slowly making our way down that mostly sloping drop. Watch out for loose rocks since they bounce down the ramp to your buddies below. :o It was dark by the time we were all down and pulled ropes but we were fairly close to the lower trail. Some down climbing after that final rappel before hitting some thick bushwhacking. Once down into the flatter area, you'll want to cut west to reconnect with the trail and an easy walk back to the TH. :D
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