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Jun 14 2025
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Humphreys - Fremont - B24, AZ 
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For day three, I decided to tolerate the crowds and hike Humphreys, one I'd done a few times before but not in the past 5+ years. I started from Snowbowl ~7:30AM, and it was swarming with people...not surprising, but the sight still had me questioning my decision. The trail was much as I remembered it--lots of rocks and tree roots, and the views don't open up much until clearing the trees near the saddle. There were brief stretches when I had the trail to myself but many more when I was trying to navigate through traffic.

It got up to the peak in about two hours and was pleased that there were only five other people on top when I arrived. Lots of bees, but the weather was much nicer than any of my previous visits, with comfortable temperatures and virtually no wind. I'd planned to hike to Fremont Peak tomorrow as part of a longer loop but decided to head over there now since it was only ~9:30AM and there was plenty of day left. I hung out on the peak for a while, then started down as more and more people arrived. Some places looked like a solid line of hikers coming up as I hiked back to the saddle, then immediate relief once I was on Weatherford.

I passed a few groups as I rounded Agassiz and followed the switchbacks down to Fremont Saddle, where I took a quick break for food/sunscreen. I left the trail there and made the climb up to Peak 11673, which the guide accurately describes as merely a bump on the road to Fremont. The off-trail up to the summit wasn't too bad--some pine branches to push through and a steep and rocky final ascent up to the peak, which has a rock wall windbreak with a wooden post sticking up.

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The summit provides a good perspective of the Pipeline burn scar that covers the south/east sides of Fremont, runs along the ridgeline of Doyle and covers much of the area to the south, dividing the mountain into green and brown halves. I took another food break at the top, which the gnats and bees did their best to make it tough to enjoy. The summit register had a lot of familiar HAZ names, and I added mine and then returned to Weatherford Trail via the same route and hiked back to the crowded Humphreys intersection and started down.

Along the way, I left the trail to check out the B-24 crash site. I visited it six years ago but had forgotten just how many large and recognizable airplane parts this site has--much more interesting than the B-17 site on Rees I visited yesterday. This site has become more popular--I saw at least three other people wandering around the scree slope with the wreckage. One of the guys I saw returned to the trail around the same time as me and showed his waiting friends his bloody arm--he'd apparently suffered a fall on the boulders.

The last few miles were easy downhill that practically hiked themselves, and I was back at Snowbowl around 2:30PM. The crowds on Humphreys were predictably annoying but not as bad I expected, and it was nice seeing some new parts of the SF Peaks. After a break in the shade, I decided to hike part of Kachina Trail before driving back to Flagstaff since it was still early.
 
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Long day from Humphreys saddle over to Fremont Peak. We summited and then immediately headed back down as a storm was rolling in a couple hours earlier than anticipated. We tried to get below treeline as quickly as possible to take a break but rain/hail made it a little challenging to relax, so ate some snacks quickly and continued out.
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Fremont Peak, AZ 
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I haven't been up Fremont since 2017 and with the snow I knew Humphrey was totally out of the question. Ordinarily, I wouldn't hike anything here until Memorial Day or after due to the snow and winds this time of year. Still, I was able to hike this with the deep snow over 11,000' and the wind wasn't too bad.

I started at a parking area at 8,040' on Freidlein Prairie Rd just east of Snowbowl Rd. The hike was 100% off trail up slope to the NE and through grassy meadows and parks, and finally bristlecone forest. I headed for the SW ridge coming off of peak 11673. Around 11,000' I began to encounter snow, and at some point I was back in January of 2010 with deep snow and drifts all around. It definitely felt like old times. From heat to deep snow, the last few weeks have been a roller coaster.

I was happy to finally see some blue sky above me as I neared the ridge and had done really well in my navigating, coming on to the ridge right on to 11673. From there I followed the ridge to Fremont's summit. It was pretty cold and windy on Fremont, so I didn't stay more than 10 minutes.

I never found the old register from 18 years ago, but there is a filled up new one. I found @DixieFlyer 's June 2020 entry. It was rather cold and the wind here was making it harder, so I started down pretty quick. I was going to descend the southeast ridge, but not knowing how that was and with so much snow, I opted to descend more or less my ascent route. I did cut off some of the ridge by starting down slope early on while crossing the ridge.

About half way down through the snow I thought I found my tracks but it ended up being animal tracks and I think it was bear tracks, possibly a mother and cubs. If not several bears, a bear and some other animal like a mountain lion.

Down was much faster than up, and I was back to my car in 2 & 1/2 hours. I had planned to hike Deception Peak in New Mexico in a few days, but unless I change my mind I won't. I don't think I want to deal with more snow, and having never done anything over in the Santa Fe Baldy ski area, I don't plan to hike in snow there for the first time. Plus, there is a high wind forecast with red flag warnings the next few days. So, I got close to 12,000' this year, but not over. I'm pleased.
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Pipeline Fire Scar, AZ 
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Notice: Super long triplog and obnoxious photo dump! Intentionally posted excessive detail to share as much of the Pipeline scar as possible.
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After Saturday's 22-mile sufferfest around the north side of the peaks I wanted to take advantage of the near-perfect seasonal colors, lack of typical crowds here, and the minimally publicized end to the area closure, to check out the devastation firsthand.

With the forecast calling for rain and wind by the weekend, I figured it would be good to take advantage of the perfect weather today. In fact, after the cold wind, flurries, and socked-in peaks four days ago, the blue skies today were somewhat ... bland!

After a quick gander at driving 9129D to Alto Spring it became apparent that walking the 552 would be eternally faster. What's an extra 6 miles and 1000 feet on a day like this!? ](*,) There were 3 other cars parked at the gate. I could have easily made the drive, but I can see how the roadbed is too unstable to reopen without some extensive culvert reconstruction and erosion prevention. It'll be interesting to see how this progresses.

Lockett Meadow was in great shape, as we saw from the Waterline Road on Saturday. All the camp sites are fully intact and ready for enjoyment. It was odd to experience this place in autumn gold without another soul in sight.

I was unprepared for the matchsticks that the first quarter mile of #29 now passes through. It is complete and total destruction. But the trail cuts through the scar quickly and emerges into the untouched forest as the remaining trail climbing to the waterline road are as pristine as ever. And today was absolutely perfect for aspen colors; the best I've ever seen them! :)

Above the waterline it was amazing to see how quickly the aspens had progressed from just four days earlier. These trees had lost significant amounts of leaves and looked drab compared to the vibrant yellows just a short distance away. We saw our only other hikers on the trail sitting at the bus stop. They had come over from Snowbowl, and were headed back that way.

We made quick work up the ankle-buster road before hitting Weatherford and climbing up to the saddle. Off-trail to the summit of Fremont is as it has always been, untouched by fire. As LJW reported a couple of weeks ago, this is where things change significantly.

The trip down the ridge to Fremont Saddle follows the burn perimeter, sometimes in untouched forest and others in ash and char. Fire rings remain at the saddle campsites, but everything else is gone. The climb up to Doyle is severely burned. Climbing it was a challenge, descending it might be more of a buttslide. If wet, bring a sled. The ground was always a little bit loose and gravelly here, now it's just ash and dried ash-mud. The bristlecones are just blackened skeletons.

To nobody's surprise, the rudimentary cabin structure just below the peak was completely destroyed. The corrugated roofing materials lay in a heap, collapsed as the wooden structure which supported it no longer exists. Countless nails, the door hinges, and some remnants of metal tools are still in the rubble, but not much else.

At the high point, the summit cairn still held two summit register jars. A plastic jar had melted into the register paper inside, and I made no attempt to remove it. The glass jar survived and the paper inside was charred from the heat. But it survived and is still usable.

From Doyle we headed down the ridge toward the ridge that leads to Schultz. This area is moonscape. It appears that the fire did not burn east of the Schultz Peak ridge (which had previously burned), and there were pockets of unburned (this time) terrain as we headed downhill. North of the 10,569 ridge, the damage was extensive once again. There was a new rain gauge placed here presumably to help warn the downstream neighborhoods of imminent flooding.

As we progressed down the ridge, the damage was total. It wasn't until shortly before reaching the Waterline Road that we started to encounter aggressive aspen sprouts and even a couple of little mosaic islands of unburned mature aspen groves. As we crossed Waterline it was clear that the north slope into the Inner Basin was torched, but the south side meadows down toward Doney Park appeared to be largely untouched, despite being within the perimeter scar.

The views looking up from here were beautiful, with golden fall colors carpeting the entire inner basin. The late afternoon sun prevented us from getting any quality photos.

After returning to Lockett Meadow we began the trip back down the road and caught up with a pair of hikers from Flagstaff who we chatted with for the final mile down to the closure gate.

I might need a hiking break after these last two! It was great to get up and hit the fall colors and get into the fire scar up close, but it's definitely a bittersweet experience. Glad to see what still stands, but sad at what doesn't. Thanks to N for getting out there with me, it was a good day.
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Humphreys - Fremont Loop, AZ 
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Couldn't wait the few more weeks for fall and had to have a look for myself at the damage from the summer. Redrew a familiar loop to play within FS rules, avoiding lower Weatherford and Kachina east of the Spur Trail. The whole mountain is still green, except for upper IB, which is just starting to change. Might be back in a week or two; Inner Basin is staying open up from the Waterline junction.

Was hoping for a day of clouds what with the rain and the cool weather we've been having. Forecast called for fog early, and the plan was sealed. Ended up a near-perfect day. Humphreys 151 same as ever. Passed a half dozen groups from saddle and up, and then another half dozen from summit back to saddle. Lots of folks got up for a sunrise summit and missed out on the clouds.

I had upper Weatherford to myself, as well as everything from Humphreys Saddle to Kachina TH for that matter. Lots of traffic on 151 all day long. Low clouds and great visibility. The Ridge from Fremont Saddle was untouched. Clouds built around the summit as I climbed.

Fremont is the summit with the best view of the damage. From there it appeared that Doyle, Schultz Ridge, Fremont's E ridge to Doyle Saddle were burned entirely. The fire did an astonishingly thorough job. Weatherford Canyon below Doyle Saddle, and it's hard to say for sure, was burned about 95% through. The bottom near Schultz Tank seemed to be okay, but everything in between looked like Doyle's slopes apart from a patch or two. Schultz Peak looked similarly, with only a few areas spared.

After an hour, I headed down the SE ridge toward Kachina. That was burned except the highest reaches. In order to avoid the closure, I stuck to the S ridge which was rather clear and stable but very steep. Dense forest and good aspen stands lower down. Emptied into a meadow above Kachina and for the first time since the 2020 Snowbowl closure had that trail to myself.
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Humphreys - Fremont Loop, AZ 
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Couple weeks off, couple weeks behind on this one. Tried just picking up where I left off. Started at 5:15am at the Kachina TH. No one at the Kachina or 151 TH when I started. Sign on the 17 North said the forests were still closed, suppose the word hadn't quite gotten out yet.

Humphreys Trail to the summit first time ever passing no one. Humphreys spur from Snowbowl is still closed off. Not sure if it's still closed because of related construction or if they are doing away with it. Shady and cool to the summit. After that it felt warm early on and high up the mountain. Switched onto Weatherford, had a break at Agassiz Saddle. Descending is as blissful as ever.

Hit Fremont Saddle passed my first hiker of the day. Turns out it wasn't a hiker so much as a Dixieflyer. From the saddle up the ridge to Fremont. Buggy on top, but the weather was perfect. Down the SE ridge cutting switchbacks to Kachina.

Maybe it's just because it's been a while, but it was my favorite trip down Kachina that wasn't a part of an autumn hike. Some cloud cover amassed on the way, the first shade since the morning. Appreciated the smooth tread and the mix of trees. Ferns have fleshed out. Find the East side the better half, but the West was (is) the one with the crowds. Almost everyone I saw on the day was hiking Kachina.
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May 19 2021
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Fremont - Doyle - Schultz Loop, AZ 
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A friend and I grew impatient and decided not to wait until June to head back to the SF Peaks. Figured there'd be too much snow to want to loop around from the west, so we started at Schultz Tank and stuck to the south side of the mountain. Started around 6am and went clockwise.

Nobody at the TH at 6, didn't cross any hikers all day. Started on Weatherford and took that to the last switchback before it crosses around Fremont to Doyle Saddle. About a dozen trees down on Weathford to that point. Left the trail and crossed into the meadow on the SE ridge. Went up that way knowing there'd be no snow. Tend to head down that ridge instead of up because it's so steep, but it's mostly grassy, open terrain with good footing. Enormous bristlecones/conifers and southern views distract. Made it up in about 3.5 hours and hung out at the summit for 2. The skyline shed its haze and pillowy clouds rolled in.

Descended west knowing our path would cross a decent amount of snow. Hoping for just the right amount, pretty much got it. So damn fun. The ridge was clear on top and to the south, but to the north there were 3-8ft drifts. Descending to Fremont Saddle no choice but to slide. Fell more times than I can remember but the weather was perfect for playing in the snow. Weatherford still deep snow most of the way from Doyle Saddle to, well I'd guess Humphreys Saddle. There's still a good amount of snow higher up where the trail crosses Snowslide Canyon. Weatherford to Doyle Saddle was more tiresome than the ridge as the snow was pretty soft, and we couldn't help but kick through 2-3ft every ten steps or so.

Straight up Doyle, no snow, and followed a better course this time. Had a break at the summit and watched the clouds and their shadows roll over the mountain. Could see two people descending Humphreys. I would think that it's currently not too bad with spikes if you start early. East side of Doyle has a good amount of snow still, though it wasn't so bad as Weatherford. Once the snow was gone deadfall took its place. So many downed trees to navigate around on the Schultz ridgeline. Got back down to a few cars at the trailhead. Hung out at Schultz Tank afterward, and it seemed like everyone at the trailhead was headed to Elden.
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One more fall hike in the SF Peaks and probably my last trip up there for the year. Couldn't help but include Fremont and tied it into a loop sure to pass through at least some autumn color.

Schultz Tank at 4:30. Waterline for an hour and a half in the dark. Bright stars over dull city lights. Southern Waterline is probably a decade away from being a worthy fall inclusion. What small aspens there are were yellow.

Waterline around Inner Basin was just about prime. Impossible to say, can't help but try. It's not like it ever all peaks at the same time, so there's always bound to be some disappointment and surprise. The joys of fall.

Up to Fremont one last time this year. Folds of yellow all around. Warmer than expected, until the clouds swept in with the wind and I headed down.

SE ridge down to Weatherford. Good footing, bristlecones, meadows, shortest route back to Schultz Tank. Weatherford a mix of colors. Lower is on the way up, upper is on the way down.

Aspen side of the Weatherford Loop. More leaves on the ground than in the trees. Short window this year. Last of autumn color mostly in the bottom half.

Saw a few people all over the mountain. Temps from 40s to 70s. Everywhere but Kachina is peak or past from what I could see.
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Jul 16 2020
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Just did this one a couple weeks ago, but a friend in Flagstaff and I couldn't think of anything better on a day with storms in the forecast. Started real early around 4am in order to give us time for a long break on Fremont before any summer storms could roll in.

Schultz tank a few cars when we got there. They belonged to campers on Doyle Saddle and a guy who got there shortly after us doing some running. We could see distant lightning in the clouds north of Humphreys in the dissipating night's storm. Weatherford had a half dozen trees down, nothing too bad.

Up to Fremont in great time. Key to this one was getting ahead of the weather while we had a trail and going fast as possible up to Fremont Saddle. Everything after that takes time. Fremont Saddle up the ridge to the peak. Gone this way three times since last month, so it didn't take long. Stayed an hour on the summit watching the clouds rearrange the lighting on the peaks. Clouds started to darken and we realized we drank away our head start.

Straight down to Doyle Saddle and up Doyle. Tried to take a smarter route than earlier in the month to no avail. Got to the cabin and had another short break around 10:30am. The ticking of rain started on the corrugated metal roof behind us. Then dull thunder. We got up and went to the summit and watched a storm dump water on the slopes north of Lockett Meadow and Sugarloaf Mountain. Dark, electrical clouds in every direction from Doyle.

Down the ridge to PK11045. A hail storm started, so we hung out under some trees and waited for it to pass. Thunder grew louder and moved overhead. Light rain came and went as clouds gathered. When we started up for Schultz a bolt of lightning flashed and curled in the air a few hundred feet above us. Not sure I've ever heard anything louder.

On Schultz a downpour started, so we stopped again below the trees. Thunder was pretty constant. Eventually the rain ended and we went through the meadows. Windy and cold, and the thunder was done until waterline when a proper downpour started. I usually try pretty hard to avoid summer storms, so by that point it was pretty cool to be caught in one. Only saw a few people, both times we passed Doyle Saddle.
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Fremont - Doyle - Schultz, AZ 
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Came to find out that the route between Schultz and Doyle is pretty well-traveled. A trail exists much of the way. Wanted to add Fremont, and instead of saving the best for last ended up on that summit first. Had a go at a figure 8 earlier in the year and tried another one out. Went to draw up the route and found that @chumley had already posted it. Good looking out.

Started at Schultz Tank around 5:45. Not very cool with the sun up a half hour. Took Weatherford to Fremont Saddle, passing a hiker going up and a group of backpackers coming down. From there up the ridge to Fremont, beginning ~6mi of off-trail travel. Met a guy this year on Agassiz Peak from out of state who remarked the SF Peaks make for some good beginner's mountaineering. Travel's generally easy if the steep slopes don't bother you. Not too hard to avoid bushwhacking.

Views from Fremont summit were pretty hazy. Clouds were starting to coalesce over the peaks. The wind that brought them in had yet to clear the air. Slowest portion of the day was down to Doyle Saddle and then up Doyle. Footing is loose coming down that way from Fremont, and going up Doyle it's just plain steep. Should have made more of an effort to climb farther north to the ridge, but the climb doesn't last long. Most interesting part of the day was the cabin. Views from Doyle are under-hyped. Not bad at all.

Followed ridgelines down to Schultz. A trail exists much of the way between Pk11045 and High Tank. Could pass right over Schultz Peak without noticing. Nice area with beautiful clearings between the trees. Followed the meadows to the end of the line, and went down toward Waterline Trail.
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Thanks to @chumley for putting together the fun 3-peak route, always nice to do something different on The Peaks. Not sure I'd call Schultz a peak, but it's a cool area for sure.
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I did this hike last September and decided that it would be a good one to do again.

We started from the Inner Basin, went up the Inner Basin Trail to the Weatherford Trail, and then took a right on the Weatherford Trail up to the saddle-with-the-controversial-name that is between Agassiz Peak and Fremont Peak. From there we went off-trail up to Fremont. Along the way we hit the summit of Peak 11673, which some say was once known as Doyle Peak.

There was very little wind, so this was a good day to be up on top of Fremont. For me, the views on Fremont are as good or better as those up on Humphreys.

I hiked up to Humphreys yesterday, so it was cool to hike up to the 1st and 3rd highest peaks on AZ on back-to-back days.

The best thing about the hike was that I got to meet @te_wa and @Pickles, who were hiking from the Inner Basin up to Humphreys. It is always nice to meet some HAZers on a hike. I think that it would be hard for @te_wa to go undercover though: [ image ]
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Started at the Kachina Trailhead at 5am. Already one car there and three at the Humphreys TH. Took the loop clockwise with Humphreys first.

Passed three groups of hikers on the way up to the saddle. From the saddle, a pair of hikers were returning from a sunrise summit. They said it had been so windy they had to crawl up the final incline. By the time I was there winds were constant at 20-30mph. They helped blow me up the final climb to the summit with minimal effort. Pretty cold, so I only stayed about ten minutes. Wind was blowing my camera out of my hands as I tried to take pictures.

Way down to Humphrey's Saddle two more groups. Weatherford has snow just past Agassiz Saddle that is easily negotiable. It has snow on the walk over Snowslide Canyon before the Z. Brought spikes, didn't need them. Poles would help, goes without saying but not a good place to slip. A path is worn out in the snow a few feet below the trail where there are patches of bare rock.

From Fremont Saddle went up to the ridge with Peak 11,673 that leads up to Fremont. Definitely my preferred way of getting to the summit, as the SE ridge is to get down. Cold wind and warm sun on the summit. Went down trying to rejoin the trail after bypassing as many switchbacks as possible. Cut one more corner around Aspen Spring.

Kachina had give or take a dozen groups of hikers. Uneventful unless it's autumn, but a nice way to loop back around the mountain. Only ever got as warm as high 70s.
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Oct 10 2019
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 Phoenix, AZ
Fremont Peak Loop, AZ 
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LJWTriplogs 266
Hiking19.37 Miles 4,502 AEG
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Been sitting on this hike since winter waiting for the fall to arrive. After a disappointing fall showing in the Inner Basin last week, a friend and I made a second attempt to see some color. This time we went for Fremont Peak, and to get maximum autumn-ness we looped around from the Humphrey's side with Weatherford and Kachina Trails, seeing the color from afar and up close.

Started at Snowbowl around 6:45am with temperatures in the mid/high 30s. Aspen Loop was a deep golden yellow. Saw a dozen deer in the meadows at Snowbowl and on the Humphrey's Trail. Passed some people around Humphrey's Saddle and didn't see anyone else until the end of Kachina.

Skipped Humphrey's and went straight down the Weatherford to Doyle Saddle. The wind was starting to blow the early morning haze from the Inner Basin, revealing its color. Took the ridge from Doyle Saddle to Fremont Peak. First time heading that way, and I think it's the best way up compared to the SE ridge or the loose, rocky climb from Fremont Saddle.

On the top of Fremont we were surrounded by autumn color. Fremont is right in the middle of the aspen stands of the Inner Basin, Weatherford, and Kachina. They were all showing quite nicely and were all within a week of climax. Despite biting wind and near freezing temperatures on top of Fremont, with every direction yielding amazing autumn color or more generally breathtaking views, we lingered for an hour and a half or so.

Headed down the SE ridge, which is much more enjoyable downhill than up. Caught up with Weatherford at the second big switchback. The colors on the lower sections of the trail were still pretty green, but higher up the color was perfect.

Onto Kachina and the color was best nearer the Weatherford junction than the trailhead. Was very impressed by that trail. The meadows were quite beautiful, especially at this time of year. It was especially cool to walk through the seas of yellow on Weatherford and Kachina after surveying them from the top of Fremont. The ups and downs that come by nickel and dime on Kachina were rough by the end.

There was a freeze in Flagstaff the night of this hike, and I imagine that has hastened the changing of the colors. I'd say from now for a week or so will be prime for seeing some yellow.
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Inner Basin entering climax, Weatherford is there higher up, Kachina is there around the Weatherford junction. The rest will be hitting within a week.
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Aug 28 2016
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 Ahwatukee, AZ
Fremont & Doyle PeaksFlagstaff, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking11.94 Miles 4,446 AEG
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Chumley's triplog already covers this entire hike, so I'll avoid rehashing it again, but so far this was probably my favorite AZ hike of the summer. Starting out in the aspens was great, and it was nice to have some easy hiking at the very beginning, before the hard work began. After that, I heard "This part will be steep" at least a half-dozen times throughout the day.

Climbing up Doyle wasn't too bad, and I liked the boulder field. I'm not fast making my way across the rocks, but I enjoy it as much as, if not more so, than hiking on a trail. We stopped at the top for a few minutes to sign the register, and get some pics of the amazing clouds. Hiking down Doyle was very steep, but at least the ground was soft. For every step I took, it seemed like I slid forward another half step or so; I would have hated to climb up that side.

We took a quick break at Doyle Saddle, then my favorite part of the day began. Fremont looked intimidating to me, but I really liked it. Again, climbing up the rocks was my favorite part. And the weather was constantly changing from almost sunny, to being completely enveloped by clouds, which gave plenty of opportunities for some good pictures. It was definitely steep, but the rocks made for slow going, and I thought it felt easier to climb than Doyle. Another break at the top, and even though there was no wind, it felt cool enough for an extra long sleeve shirt since I wasn't working hard anymore.

After that, it was a quick hike down to the saddle, then easy trail all the way back to the car. Finishing out the hike by walking through aspens again was the perfect way to end the day.
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Aug 28 2016
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Fremont & Doyle PeaksFlagstaff, AZ
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Having previously traveled the entire north side of the San Francisco horseshoe from Agassiz, Humphreys, Abineau, and Rees to the Inner Basin, I've had the south half of the horseshoe on my radar.

With several inches of hail accumulating over the peaks on Friday and the season's first snowfall on Saturday morning, I was hoping Sunday would provide better weather. The forecast had called for clearing and drier weather earlier in the week, but the chances for storms on Sunday kept getting higher and higher as the day got closer. We decided not to let it deter us, opting instead to make a very early attempt in hopes of beating any severe weather.

So we set off toward the mountain at oh-denny-thirty with hopes of a pre-sunrise start. The peaks were shrouded in clouds in the early morning light and we didn't manage to start the ascent until a couple minutes past 6. We started at the base of Sugarloaf Peak at the east end of Lockett Meadow and headed up the closed 552B which swings around and parallels the ridge as it climbs steadily over 1.5 miles to the Waterline Road.

The next 4.5 miles of ridge hiking is off-trail until Fremont Saddle. The first half mile above Waterline was a pleasant grade before the slope got considerably steeper. At the 3 mile mark, some of steepest terrain of the day presents a challenge to getting to peak 11,060. There's a short ridge here before the final 400 foot climb to Doyle, but that ridge is a boulder field and travel is very slow. But the boulders provide relief from the pine canopy and amazing views over the Inner Basin and the peaks on the north side of the horseshoe.

The climb up Doyle from the east is pretty straightforward and when you reach the peak there's a cairn with the original (and correct) summit register placed in 1988. We signed in despite the lack of recent entries. As we pressed on toward Fremont, we encountered another cairn about 0.15 miles from the original. This also had a register. This register had recent entries. It also actually said that this register wasn't placed at the peak. Then why the :pk: did you build a cairn and put a register here? ](*,) Seriously. People are dumb. :bdh:

The perfect conical shape of Fremont stood directly before us, a very attainable 500 feet higher up. Unfortunately, to get there requires dropping 700 feet to Doyle Saddle. The descent might be the steepest terrain on the day. The climb in the opposite direction must be a real chore! We took a quick snack break at the saddle before beginning the 1200 foot climb to Fremont. It's only half a mile away! :o It was 9:45, and I made a goal of reaching the peak by 11:00. Yes, I was estimating 1:15 to go the next half mile!

The ascent up Fremont was awesome. The clouds came and went, sometimes leaving us with no view and other times opening dramatic glimpses at the other peaks. The lower part was forested before reaching a bouldery section that leads to a steep scramble with a large crux rock about 600 feet below the summit. We opted to go around to the left, but I think the right would have worked fine too. Left is softer and more forested, right is more bouldery.

The final stretch is steep and a continued combination of soft dirt, dwarfy pine trees, and small boulder fields. Staying just to the south side of the ridge seemed to provide the best route, but some zig-zagging was in order, if for no other reason than the views into the Inner Basin. Once up top, I was surprised I was unable to find a register. There's a nice shelter wall built though it was quite calm and not needed on this day. Another short break and a summit beer were in order before the final off-trail mile across the 11,673 ridge and the final descent to Fremont Saddle. Six miles in 5.5 hours! Off-trail ascents take their toll! : rambo :

From there, we cruised back to the IB, happy to be on trail again. Saw 3 people in the Inner Basin before passing a dozen or two in the lower aspen section of trail. Back to the car for the return to the valley after a very long and rewarding day!

The weather couldn't have been better. It was 42 at the trailhead when we started, and warmed somewhat in the early sun, but winter-like clouds shrouded the peaks from time to time, creating dramatic views and lighting. I don't think it ever got above 55 until we were back at the trailhead at the end of the day. The temperature and awesome clouds really made this hike as good as it could be! :y: (Not bad for August in Arizona!)

Glad to have now hit all the peaks around the Inner Basin horseshoe. The only non-direct section for me is the direct link between Fremont Saddle and Agassiz (I've taken the Weatherford traverse and the ridgeline to Agassiz from the Humphreys saddle). Not sure I'll ever do that line direct unless I decide to skin up Agassiz and ski down into Freidlein Prairie sometime. I'm sure it's been done before... :-k
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Oct 20 2014
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 Avondale,Az
Fremont Peak-11673 Non Peak-Weatherford Loop, AZ 
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StoicTriplogs 552
Hiking19.22 Miles 5,495 AEG
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I drove up to Flagstaff Sunday Night and slept in the truck at Schultz Tank. I wanted to acclimate myself as much as I could before this hike. I planned on starting the trail around 5am. Since I was warm and cozy in the truck, and it was a bit cold outside, I didnt get that early start. I started getting ready a little after 6 and started up the Weatherford trail around 6:30.
I planned my route from Jim_H description. I hiked up the Weatherford for 3 Miles, then went off trail. Straight up the mountain. Well it was kinda straight. This section was very slow going. Take 5 steps then take 5 breaths... I gained 2800Ft in 2.5 miles. This took me over 4hours 30minutes. I then hiked down the west ridge to Non-Peak 11673, then back to the Weatherford @ the Doyle Saddle. I then hiked the Weathford up to the Agassiz-Humphreys saddle, then back down the Weatherford to Schultz tank.
The weather was perfect, fall colors where great. Oh and I ran into AZ Wandering Bear on my way back down, at Doyle Saddle. All around a Fantastic adventure.
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Humphreys Summit Trail #151Flagstaff, AZ
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Denny wasn't early for the first time. I slept under the stars last night and saw lots of activity in the sky. It was a lot warmer then 2 weeks ago. Denny arrived on time and we headed for the Humphrey's saddle and down to the saddle before 11,673 which was our first objective. Next the Dennnynator crushed Freemont and then Doyle. BTW O'Doyles Rule. The views from 11,673 were pretty good. I think Freemont were pretty awesome but the best were from Doyle. The trip down Freemont wasn't as bad as I had heard. There was a little scree but not to much. I needed to eat before we got to Doyle and I devoured my chicken breast and snacks. I now felt better. Feeling better lasted for about another 1 and a half hours and then I felt sick and totally yucky. Going down Humphreys I started feeling better and we decided we'd go to the bomber crash site. I was slow going again but we made it but didn't spend a lot of time there. On the hike down, Denny Bruced... but he recovered pretty quick and there was no blood shed. It was good to hike with The Dennynator again.
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Aug 09 2008
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Fremont & Doyle PeaksFlagstaff, AZ
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toddakTriplogs 577
Hiking10.00 Miles 4,625 AEG
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Lockett Meadow up to Fremont via the north ridge then over and up to Doyle on a lovely day of intermittent rain and sun. Everything's green and gorgeous!
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Humphreys Summit Trail #151Flagstaff, AZ
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My time is so long because I actually bagged two decent sized peaks in 1 day. The trail this day was extremely crowded, using 10 pages of trip registry at the sign-in box. To avoid some of the crowd I went from Humphrey Saddle over to Fremont Peak ( 6th time on Fremont) ate lunch there and then turned around and went up Humphrey (5th time). It worked as I only had 2 other people with me on the summit (it was just after 4pm by this time). It was a hard hike for me, with an estimated 4500' of altitude gain and loss. It also makes it my 12th time for being on one of the San Fransisco Peaks. I am bragging, I guess, but I only moved to Flagstaff last August.
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