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Drew Trail #291 - 28 members in 119 triplogs have rated this an average 3.3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Aug 02 2025
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Drew - See loop, AZ 
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,604
Hiking12.16 Miles 2,102 AEG
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Katie wanted to hike on the Rim today, so we opted for the Drew-See Canyon loop. East on Highline to start. Warm. Zero breeze. Saw an Arizona Black rattler. Katie wondered why the only time she sees rattlers, I am present. It’s a mystery.

Took our time up Drew trail. Still no breeze. Once up top, we went north of the campground and headed west on Aspen, Carr, and General Crook. Finally, a nice breeze. Saw a horned lizard and a coyote.

Warm hike down See Canyon. The trail is in rough shape in places, and a fair amount of deadfall. Lost the breeze again. Skipped the spring. Some water in the creek, but not much. Nice loop, and good to catch up with Katie.

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Loop via Highline - Drew - GC - See, AZ 
Loop via Highline - Drew - GC - See, AZ
 
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DesertNymphTriplogs 83
Hiking12.30 Miles 2,056 AEG
Hiking12.30 Miles   5 Hrs   19 Mns   2.32 mph
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With some slightly cooler weather in the forecast during the week and some time on my hands, I figured I'd pop up to the rim country for another hike. I'd initially planned on hitting up one of the more popular hikes I haven't done (Derrick-Highline-Horton), but with rain over the weekend and recent triplogs mentioning sticky mud post precipitation on Derrick, I pivoted to another nearby hike that I anticipated might also benefit from a weekday visit. With my general preference for loop hikes, I saw that some had made a loop out of the See Canyon Trailhead, and I figured I'd follow their example.

Met up well after sunrise to make the uneventful drive up to the rim - spotted a few folk camping out on the road to the trailhead and arrived to find two other vehicles parked in the lot. There were some low clouds perched atop the rim when we arrived, and a chance of thundershower activity in the forecast for mid afternoon. With the recent rains and additional precipitation in the forecast, it was a bit sticky, but the temps were pleasantly cool.

Heading out from the parking area, we walked a short distance before crossing the creek to the See Canyon/Highline junction - opting to do the hike counter clockwise, we started our gradual climb up towards the rim - I imagine fall colors must be quite beautiful with the mix of oak and maple along with the evergreens. The initial climb went by relatively quickly with occasional views through the trees before we found ourselves at the barbed wire gate and the junction with the Drew Trail (marked with blue diamonds) where it was evident there was still more climbing to be done with the top of the mogollon still high above us. After a brief respite from the climb with some open views, the trail took off again at a steeper grade, surfacing on the rim near a camping area and crossing a dirt road. Once on the rim, the Drew continues through heavily thinned forest (turns out all the orange on the trees was to denote "leave tree" for logging operations - at least this is the convention used in Coconino NF) before hitting the General Crook Trail (marked with white chevrons). Walking along the General Crook started off as a nice single-track path, which eventually devolved into following an obvious old dirt road. While the track was easy to follow, the walking was decidedly mundane. The trail eventually reverted back to more of a walking path (marked with a combination of chevrons on trees and pink flags in the ground) while paralelling the Rim Road before departing the General Crook to start dropping quickly into the Christopher Creek Drainage via the See Canyon trail.

Aside from the steep descent, the hike back to the parking area travels through some really lush, wonderfully green forest (be aware that there is poison ivy in the area adjacent to the trail). The canyon was dry in the upper reaches, but we eventually passed an area where water could be heard (and seen below). Continuing down canyon, the water seemed to disappear briefly before resurfacing again. When we passed the junction with the offshoot to See Spring, neither of us was particularly interested in the detour, so we continued on back to the car.

During the hike, the clouds lifted off the rim, but looked to be building again as we were starting our drive back towards the valley. Thanks for joining me and driving, Wally! It was good to squeeze in another moderate-distance hike before the heat severely hampers my hiking.

Other hikers: one backpacker coming down the highline trail, one trailrunner along the general crook trail.

Wildlife: Heard an owl, got sassed by some fat squirrels, chased some butterflies (but didn't get any photos), photographed an uncooperative horned lizard, heard plenty of birdsong, and spotted a few deer on the rim.
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Christopher Creek @ Highline Trail Medium flow Medium flow
Rock hop your way across.
The springs in the canyon must be flowing, though volume is unconfirmed (didn't go and check actual spring locations). Higher up in the canyon, the drainage is dry - the water surfaces, then goes underground, then resurfaces again.

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Jun 03 2025
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Loop via Highline - Drew - GC - See, AZ 
Loop via Highline - Drew - GC - See, AZ
 
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wallyfrackTriplogs 1,694
Hiking12.30 Miles 2,056 AEG
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Stephanie planned a loop on the rim and I went along to enough some cooler hiking. Highline/Drew trails went up, up, up. General Crook trail went up about 200 feet but seemed level. See Canyon went down, down down.

Stephanie took an inventory of the flora along the way. We saw 3 deer up on the rim. We only passed 1 hiker and a trail runner on the hundred flower loop. A breeze and some cloud cover helped with the humidity.

The trails up and down were well defined but the General Crook trail had a few direct roads and grass filled trails sections that made a GPS useful. It seemed the upper area was open and scenic but no elk were out and about.

The drive through Payson was easy and the road were not busy. Last tine through there was much more traffic. Thanks for the hike Stephanie and the nice triplog with the details.
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Aspen Trail #411 - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
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Hiking9.91 Miles 1,324 AEG
Hiking9.91 Miles   4 Hrs   16 Mns   2.63 mph
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Wow, 12 of us out from Meetup and had a wait list. Even rec'd positive feedback that I don't make peeps start hella early. Kept vehicles down to 3. Not sure why, but road in is now all paved.

Hopped trails some to keep it interesting. Carr Lake-Aspen-General Crook. This is where it turns to a single track. Next descended down the Drew. Dropped from 7600-6800 in a mile.

Posed for some pics at jct before climbing back up. Pushed myself going back up. Passed up by 1, another kept my pace. The rest fell aways behind. Waited for them at jct. No other hikers out here. Looped back to starting point. All of us to restraunt in Payson.
 
Apr 12 2025
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High - Drew - Woods - Sinkhole, AZ 
High - Drew - Woods - Sinkhole, AZ
 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,764
Hiking15.62 Miles 2,358 AEG
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Got an invite from Chums to hike up in the rim country. We both suggested basically the same hike, one that we've both done a few times before. He assembled a cast of motley rag-tag degenerates to join us. Tough_Boots (It's been 9 years since I last hiked with him), Kackln' Karl (Been a 1.5 years since I hiked with him) Johnny Speed demon (aka 8K) and Chumley as the Beaver.

Starting at the 260 TH we made our way west on the Highline Trail, 4.5 miles to the Drew Trail intersection. Some don't care for the Highline Trail, but I think this is a nice trail to start your hike in the morning. It rollercoasters its way over with some nice rim views.

The Drew Trail is an 800' climb in a bit over a mile to get to the top of the rim. It gets the heart pumping. We took a bit of a break up here to gather all the participants, before continuing over to the Woods Canyon approach to the lake. For those of you that ever wondered, "The Drew Trail #291 derives its name from the Drew family, early pioneers who homesteaded near Sharp Creek in Arizona. Prior to 1909, they constructed this trail to facilitate travel to Winslow, making it one of the region's oldest pioneer routes. The trail served as a vital connection between their homestead and the broader territory."

The up canyon feeder showed evidence of a low intensity prescribed burn the entire length. The grasses were turning green, snow melt had created numerous deep clear pools and there was still a smattering of snow left over.

Hitting Woods Canyon Lake we started seeing people enjoying the lake. There were quite a few less than a typical Saturday. After corralling Chums9L, we took a lunch break at the lake. The Stellar Jays perched very closely in the trees around us waiting for us to drop a morsel for them.

Continuing around the lake we said hi to my cousins, chilling high in their abode, before Kyle and I split from the group at the spillway. We took the less exciting route of the Meadow Trail + Rim Lake Vista before meeting back up with the group at the Military Sinkhole Trail. From here it was a 2.4 mile drop back to the TH.

Good times and great hiking again with the extended group of puerile misfits. The weather all day was pretty much perfect.
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High - Drew - Woods - Sinkhole, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,994
Hiking14.74 Miles 1,924 AEG
Hiking14.74 Miles   6 Hrs   11 Mns   2.83 mph
1,924 ft AEG      59 Mns Break
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This is a springtime favorite for when the fireball starts to make the lower elevations hikes less enjoyable. A couple of late-season storms provided a some snowpack with lingering drifts, but the overall moisture content up here is well below average, with little or no spring runoff happening in the typical spots. The February 28 start of fire restrictions was a bit premature in my opinion, but with wind and warmer temps coming over the next 2-3 months, there could be dangerous conditions up here if a couple of spring storms don't bring relief.

Highline to Drew always ends up lasting just a little bit longer than I'd prefer, but Drew goes by quickly. No skitters on the rim this year, which was a welcome change. Grasses seem to be filling in the unsightly masticated forest floor left behind from the aggressive thinning that has been going on over the past few years. That's a welcome thing too.

The lack of snow has resulted in roads that were open for all but a couple of weeks, and the lake was bustling with crowds of people escaping the triple digits in the valley. Not much activity on the north shore though, so that was nice. At the dam, Bruceboots opted for the longer carbon-dioxide, boombox, tourist-strewn route, while the rest of us opted for scenery and peace.

Back at the sinkhole we made our way back to the trailhead, enjoying the unnecessary 2 extra miles that this trail decides to make for no apparent reason.

Nice temps all day, a lot more cloudiness than expected, and the kind of breeze that keeps the noseeumgnats away. In spite of the company, all-in-all, an enjoyable day.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max East Fork Woods Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
No flow into the lake, but pools in the canyon.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Woods Canyon Creek Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Didn't see a dry spot below the dam.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Woods Canyon Lake 76-100% full 76-100% full
A couple of feet below spillway.
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High - Drew - Woods - Sinkhole, AZ 
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BiFrostTriplogs 1,257
Hiking14.74 Miles 1,924 AEG
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Joined Kyle, 9L, Chums and Bruce for a loop around the rim from Two-Sixty Trailhead. It's been a few years since doing this but it's a pleasant hike. Starting on Highline then over to Drew Trail where the climb begins. Highline is now a sidewalk with all the work done over past few years but Drew wasn't bad either. Reaching the rim we all took a break and regrouped.

After the break we headed for Woods Canyon Lake on a side drainage that eventually dumped us into one of the lake arms. Along the way we passed some decent patches of snow still left over from the last good snow storm. Eventually we followed lake arm around the northside of the lake.

Took a lunch break on the northside in the rocks overlooking the lake. Ran into a few people along the way now that all the road access is open. After lunch we hiked to the spillway and the usual crowd was there but we were back to solitude along the creek below the spillway.

Followed the creek to Chumleys exit point about 1.5 miles downstream. Then hiked cross country back to the rim and the Military Sink Hole Trail. Followed that trail back to the trailhead. Great to hike with this group again!!
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This was my first time doing this loop and it was enjoyable. We hiked up Drew and down See. We started at 7:15 to a basically empty trailhead.

Nice pleasant hiking along the Highline and up Drew. Some great forest through there. A lot of stately white pines, ponderosa and firs along the way. We lucked out with a few relatively deep mud puddles along the rim for Dot to lay in. The upper portions of See were excellent, but there was a bit of deadfall here and there. The trail started to feel pretty hot and humid for a bit and it dragged on some, as Dot and I waited patiently for her to get to some nice flowing water. The flowing section was a treat and Dot took several opportunities to cool down after that. A packed trailhead when we finished and a warm 86 degrees. Route Scout tracked a little high today, not sure why, but the miles seem high. We stirred up a Black Rattler along See.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Christopher Creek @ Highline Trail Light flow Light flow
water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Herman Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
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Mogollon Rim Vista LoopPayson, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking12.52 Miles 1,618 AEG
Hiking12.52 Miles   4 Hrs   29 Mns   3.04 mph
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Lower fifties when Dese and I started this loop CW at about 5:30 this morning. There were some crashes in the forest along the Highline, which were probably elk, but perhaps it could have been a bear. Both trails up to the rim are in great shape. The previous forest thinning around the 9350 Campground is essentially unnoticeable, except for all the stumps. Hiking near the 300 road was annoying because of the constant large truck traffic transporting loads for the paving project. The Rim Lake Vista Trail has the best scenery of this relatively easy loop. When we began our descent of Military Sinkhole, a bunch of Tonto NF firefighters were topping out. One implied they were training for a dry lighting start. Another of the guys said he was carrying 75lb. of water. :o I definitely appreciate their efforts.
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Drew - See loop, AZ 
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,604
Hiking11.33 Miles 1,962 AEG
Hiking11.33 Miles   4 Hrs   49 Mns   2.54 mph
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Got started from the See Canyon trailhead around 0745 with Bruce & Chris. East on Highline. Lots of dried mud on the trail, must’ve been a mess a couple of weeks ago. Up Drew Trail. I always like ascending Drew thanks to the mostly moderate incline.

Once up top, we walked thru the campground to Carr Trail. Nothing exciting there. Carr & General Crook are just a walk thru the pines. Lots of downed trees. Cool breeze. I was happy to see some clouds forming.

Descended See Canyon, which was in relatively decent condition—better than the last time I was on it. Two tiny patches of snow near the top. A couple of water crossings lower down. One little boy gave me a flower, cute. More clouds made for some nice intermittent shade. Only really saw other hikers once below See Spring.

Nice easy hike, good conversation and banter.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Christopher Creek @ Highline Trail Medium flow Medium flow
Plenty of water

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Herman Spring Dripping Dripping
Mostly a muddy spot, one pool of filterable water
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Drew See loop, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,764
Hiking11.89 Miles 1,948 AEG
Hiking11.89 Miles   4 Hrs   47 Mns   2.66 mph
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Linda invited me to join her and Chris so they had someone to pick on all day. We did an old favorite CCW from the See Canyon TH. We were the first car in the lot, that was near full on our return.

Perfect weather heading through the green maples along the Highline with only a few MTB'ers encountered. The climb up drew was relatively easy.

When we reached the rim to the Fr 9350 Campground (which I was shocked to find out was a no-cost campground) , the smell of campfires and breakfast was in the air.

We made our way west on the Aspen and General Crook trail to See Canyon. There are some downed trees along this section that were easily navigated. I pointed out the Promontory V63 tree to Linda and Chris.

See Canyon trail was easy going, even with some blowdowns from the winter. We passed 2 women going up, until we hit the onslaught of people starting at the See Spring intersection.

Good hiking with Linda and Chris again, even though they picked on me unmercifully all day long. I'm not sure what I did to deserve that.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Christopher Creek @ Highline Trail Medium flow Medium flow

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Hiking9.56 Miles 2,131 AEG
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Kriket finally got to see, See Spring. : wink :
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Nov 02 2023
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Highline - Drew - See Canyon Loop, AZ 
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trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
Hiking11.77 Miles 2,073 AEG
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john picked this loop from a couple of fall color options today
we got going around 0800
mid 30s to start, no breeze, very nice hiking conditions, maybe mid 60s when we finished
east on highline, up drew, northwest on a combination of roads and trails, down see canyon
a few maples on the drive in, around the trailhead and along parts of highline
past prime oak and aspen up on the rim
we took a break about halfway along the upper section
see canyon was nice once we got down a few hundred feet
lots of prime maple trees
kind of hard to gawk while watching footing
we did not go to the spring today
saw one hiker near the finish, and quite a few people around christopher creek near the trailhead
well worth a visit to see canyon
thai food in payson on the way home
nice day, thanks john :)
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Highline - Drew - See Canyon Loop, AZ 
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johnlpTriplogs 5,208
Hiking11.98 Miles 2,073 AEG
Hiking11.98 Miles   4 Hrs   44 Mns   2.72 mph
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Kelly wanted to do an "interesting" hike, so I chose this from several of her options.
The hike up to the rim warmed us up from the mid 30's morning temps. Hiking the few miles across the rim was a little uninteresting, but nice and quiet.
Fall colors were past prime in most areas, but still very pretty.
Didn't see anyone until the end of the hike.
Fun day. Thanks for lunch Kelly! :)
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Oct 23 2023
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See - Drew Loop, AZ 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,378
Hiking13.00 Miles 2,563 AEG
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I wanted to check out the fall foliage on the See Canyon Trail, so I decided to do a clockwise loop hike that basically went up to the Rim on the See Canyon Trail and came down off the rim on the Drew Trail.

Once up on the Rim, we made our way to the Drew Trail via the General Crook Trail and the Carr Lake Trail. After descending the Drew Trail, we made our way back to the trailhead on the Highline Trail.

Leaves were a mixed bag. There was a bit of color around the trailhead and on the See Canyon Trail for a short distance to the first creek crossing. Then almost all the maple leaves were green all the way to See Spring. Color started getting good on the See Canyon Trail about a mile past the See Spring Trail junction, and the maples were really nice from about 6,900 feet to 7,500 feet, or thereabouts.

On the way back on the Highline Trail, there were some nice colors also, but many of the trees along this section of the Highline Trail were past peak.

Synopsis
It was an enjoyable day in the Rim country, even if the foliage at the lower elevations of See Canyon weren't yet ready for prime time.

Route Scout added an extra 1.1 miles to the hike, so the stats above are those that I recorded the other time that I did this hike.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
Foliage varied on the hike. Foliage was "substantial" on the upper part of the See Canyon Trail, but was "isolated" on the lower part of the trail and at See Spring.
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Drew-See loop, AZ 
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Needed something not too long and not too far away, and I hadn't done this loop in awhile, so I decided it would be a good time to revisit it. Got started around 9am. Was already disappointingly warm, and I've been weaning myself off coffee, so I was taking things pretty slow. About a half mile in on Highline there was some bad trail work; someone just left a bunch of clippings right on the trail.

Eventually got to Drew, steady climb to the top, and finally got a bit of a breeze before topping out on the rim. Once on the rim it was more mellow and the temps were nicer, but I still didn't really feel like running once.

5-6 miles in, on General Crook trail (which is well-defined most of the way from the end of Drew Canyon trail to See Canyon trail), I managed to obtain a mild ankle sprain while carelessly stepping over some easy deadfall. I only get injured on the easy stuff. It was painless on flat terrain, so I don't think it slowed me down much above the rim, but coming down See Canyon was a different story. Logged a 30 minute mile on the downhill.

Did the detour up to See Spring (because why not?), then back down to the car. Saw a dog poop back on the trail up to the spring, but didn't see anybody up there. Huh.

Wasn't a terrible day, but could've done without the ankle sprain.
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Aspen Trail #411 - Mogollon RimPayson, AZ
Payson, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking16.06 Miles 2,089 AEG
Hiking16.06 Miles   5 Hrs   23 Mns   3.29 mph
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The Aspen Loop isn't really worth the extra drive up onto the rim, so we completed it from the See Canyon TH via the Highline and Drew Trails. Heavily logged around FR 9350 Campground since I'd last hiked through.
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Woods Canyon Lake Loop via 260 TH, AZ 
Woods Canyon Lake Loop via 260 TH, AZ
 
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Hiking16.77 Miles 1,876 AEG
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We started from Two Sixty Trailhead around 8AM, and there were quite a few mountain bikers setting up to ride, though not many on the trails early on. Temps were in the mid-60s when we got going, and we hiked the loop clockwise. The first 4+ miles were smooth sailing on Highline, and the trees were buzzing with cicadas. Mountain bike traffic picked up as we approached the Drew Trail intersection. We turned there and started the climb toward the rim, and just about all the elevation gain on the route is concentrated on the first mile along Drew up to the rim.

Everything up to that point was pleasant pine forest, but the beauty of the landscape dropped off quickly around the campgrounds on top...lots of cut/downed trees, not much shade, and huge piles of dead branches and pine needles. We took a short food break just after crossing FR 300, and the scenery improved again as we started following the creek toward Woods Canyon Lake, with a lot more tree cover and greenery.

The lake was beautiful but crowded, as expected, with lots of boats and people fishing from the shore. We saw a water snake early on as we made our way around the north shore of the lake toward the dam on the east side, staying close to the shore to avoid the bald eagle closure (didn't see any). The area around the boat ramp to the south was packed...I was happy we weren't over there.

From the dam, we left the trail again and followed the creek for ~2.5 miles. There were game trails in many places, and even when it was more overgrown, it was easy off-trail hiking, and the creek was dry enough that avoiding the water wasn't an issue despite criss-crossing many times. That section of the hike reminded me a lot of the [ East Clear Creek - Dry Lake Loop ] we hiked a few years ago. Once we left the creek bed and got up into the forest again, we sat down for a lunch break and watched an elk pass in the meadow.

The terrain took another underwhelming turn as we connected with Military Sinkhole Trail, with more cleared trees and charred stumps. If we passed the sinkhole, it didn't stand out as anything remarkable...we didn't notice any of the sinkholes along the route today. Once we dropped down off the rim, we were back in pleasant, shady forest the rest of the way to Two Sixty, and the descent seemed more gradual than the hike up Drew earlier in the day. Only one car remaining at the trailhead when we finished up in the late afternoon.

Overall, this was a fairly typical Payson area/rim hike--consistently pleasant and often shady, and this one had an interesting mix of solitude and crowds while alternating between thick forest and barren, burned areas before/after Woods Canyon Lake. The route we followed was virtually identical to one The_Eagle, trekkin_gecko, LindaAnn, and rayhuston hiked earlier this month, but our Route Scouts recorded the mileage at closer to 17, compared to ~15.5 for theirs...not sure if ours were generous with the mileage or if theirs were stingy :).
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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max East Fork Woods Canyon Medium flow Medium flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Woods Canyon Lake 51-75% full 51-75% full
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Highline - Drew - Woods Canyon - Sinkhole Loop, AZ 
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Got Linda, Kelly and Ray together for an old favorite up in rim country.

60's to start and perfect weather all day. We did the loop clockwise to get the 4+ miles on the Highline done first. A snack at the intersection with Drew before making the 1100' climb to the rim.

The off trail portion getting over to Woods Canyon Lake is easy peazy. There has been quite a bit of thinning south of the rim road.

We made our way around the lake and took the reroute to bypass the eagle nesting area.

Heading down the Woods Canyon drainage was typical travel as in past years. What deadfall there is, is easily bypassed. Out of the canyon and up to the sinkhole, we made our way over to the Military Sinkhole trail.

Dropping off the rim, you go through old growth that almost blocks the sun in places.

Great hiking with the gang again. You couldn't ask for nicer weather.
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