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During a work meeting earlier in the week with an individual from Sierra Vista, the topic of hiking came up, and she encouraged me to look at the Huachucas for some great hiking opportunities. As I was looking through HAZ resources and Googling, I came across this event and realized it was scheduled to take place that weekend.

Of course, registration had long since closed, but on a lark, I decided to email the organizers and see if there was a chance to still register. To my surprise, I received a phone call later that day, and on Wednesday signed up for the event.

The challenge is capped at 250 entrants and offers three levels: One Summit (Carr Peak--9,230 11.2 miles), Double Summit (Carr Peak and Miller Peak--9,465 ft, 15 miles), or Elite Triple Summit (Carr, Miller, and Pat Scott Peak--8,517 ft, 18.1 mi.). We, of course, signed up for the Triple. :D

Drove down to Sierra Vista after work on Friday and made it just in time for the bib pick up, which was at the golf course and included dinner and the opportunity to hit some balls on the driving range. It was a beautiful evening with the setting sun lighting up some clouds over the mountains to the west.

Bibs and swag bag secured, we headed to our motel for a few hours of shut eye.

Bus departure for the Triple was a 4:20 am, with a scheduled start at the Ramsey Canyon Nature Preserve at 5 a.m. Predawn light offered limited visibility of wild turkeys high up in the trees squawking rather loudly.

Over half of the entrants were signed up for the triple. While billed as a hike (rather than a trail run), there were several trail runners signed up and they took off up front. The first half mile or so is road width as you head through the preserve past a couple of historical cabins and some huge maple trees and other foliage which I'm sure make for a fantastic fall colors hike. The wide road at the start also helped with sorting folks out into hiking speeds. At that point, we arrived at the Hamburg trail proper, and the trail was reduced to a single track. So, passing was a little more difficult, but it never felt particularly crowded. That said, I took fewer photos than usual because I didn't want to pass and then have to re-pass folks.

Past a look out point, the trail descends back to and along the creekbed, which only had pools given the dry winter (but would be fun and more beautiful in wetter years).

At the turn off for the Pat Scott Canyon trail, the Triples hung a right, while the Single and Doubles continued on Hamburg. From there, any congestion was basically done for the day.

5 miles and over 3K in elevation gained, we arrived at peak #1--Pat Scott Peak (which is on a different high point than the erroneously noted location on the topo map). There is no official trail to the peak itself, so the final climb to the summit involved a relatively steep but short off-trail scramble, from which our two other peaks on the day came into view. After a short break and a stamp in our summit "passport" book, we descended back to the Crest trail and wound back around to reconnect with terminus of the Hamburg Trail where we rejoined the Single and Double hikers.

The next section along the Crest Trail offered our first open views of the valley floor to the west an south into Mexico. Somewhere along this section, my phone must have pinged from a Mexican cell tower prompting a text from Verizon welcoming me to Mexico. :lol:

At the Carr Peak trail, we hung a left and contoured/climbed an open bowl area up to a switchback climb to the summit of peak #2--Carr Peak. This section offered the best views of Miller on the day. The Carr Summit provided panoramic views down to Sierra Vista and off to the northern edge of the Huachucas. It was also pretty windy on the summit, but the breeze was generally welcome and kept any heat in check.

Then we backtracked to Crest and continued a short distance to Bathtub Spring, where we hung a right for our final peak. The trail here starts out with a gradual contouring climb, which made the elevation manageable. It steepens at the final spur to the summit, but wasn't as bad as I was anticipating.

Peak #3--the Miller summit is the high point of the range and is a beautifully shaped peak with a solid green carpet of aspens on its north-east facing slope. Great views into Mexico and all around from the top. I didn't realize that Miller is in the top 10-15 peaks in Arizona in terms of elevation (depending on how many of the SF peaks you "count")--higher than Mt. Lemmon or Wrightson, and cracks the top 10 in terms of prominence. However ranked, it's a lovely peak.

At the Miller summit, our climbing was more or less done for the day, with total AEG approaching 6,000. And while we were glad to be going down, the downhill grind also exacts its own price. :sweat:

The lower part of Miller Canyon had lots of greenery, which I'm sure I'd enjoy more if not for the prior 17+ miles of work. But as is typical in most long hikes, the last 2 miles are always 5 miles long. : wink : Add to that the increasing temperatures (upper 80s/lower 90s at the TH), and we were glad to hit the finish line around 1:40 pm, where a shuttle bus ferried us a mile or two down the dirt road to where the busses could pick us up.

We bussed back to the start where our bibs gained us "free" entry into the wine/spirits festival with free drinks included. We don't drink, but most others on our bus were excited for some celebratory beers.

We planned to stay Saturday night as well, so we headed back to our motel for a well-deserved shower an nap. Then we hit dinner at Texas Roadhouse and decided to take in the newly released Mission Impossible movie. I generally like the series and it was worth a watch, but not as good as I was hoping. The movie was interrupted at a critical moment (when global electricity is shut down and the screen goes dark) when the fire alarm in the theater went off. For a while, we thought it was part of the movie/release schtick, but turned out to just be your regular teenagers pulling the alarm. After the FD came and restored order, we went back in and finished the show.

Having been up since 3:30 that morning, we crashed hard after the movie and awoke for a leisurely drive back to the Valley Sunday morning.

I'm not usually drawn into paying for hiking events, but this was pretty fun and certainly allowed us to see more of the Huachucas in one trip than we would have been able to do otherwise.
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Ramsey Canyon LoopTucson, AZ
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Ramsey Canyon TrailTucson, AZ
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My mom finally requested to see some fall colors and so I decided Ramsey would be the perfect spot to take her and win back her trust of hiking with me after the last time I said a hike was doable and ended up dragging her up Picketpost. 😈

We got there at 9:10 and I’m glad we did because I forgot how small that parking lot is. Was a bit chilly in the morning but a nice fall chill.

Because we were one of the first ones to arrive we were greeted by tons of deer on the trail. Not too many birds out, however.

Leisurely strolled along the trail and looked for birds. The fall colors are still gorgeous but in the afternoon the wind picked up and I’d say they’re going to be on the ground in the next day or so.

After doing a nice little incline up to the overlook we headed back down and someone was having a wedding by the creek.

Scooted by that event and headed towards the exit. Great weather all day.
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Nice day out with Michelle. Pretty quiet once we left the preserve and was in the wilderness. Hiked to Bear Saddle and the junction of the AZT.
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Signed up for the single Peak Challenge again this year, same as last year. Hiked up to the saddle with minimal rest stops. Made pretty good time, but my legs were feeling it. Took an early lunch break at the saddle before continuing the rest of the way, and that helped. It was quite windy at the saddle, and it got windier and windier the close we got to Carr Peak. I had to tighten up the chin strap on my hat to keep from losing it. But sorrow on the peak it wasn't windy at all. Just a pleasant light breeze. But wind was cranking as soon as we started down off the peak.

That 4 mile descent down Miller Canyon is a real bitch. Steep, rocky, and it seems to go on forever. I felt much better than last year when I had to stop many times on the way down just to make it. It also helped that I knew the trail which better prepared me mentally. But my knees were feeling it by the time I got to the bottom.

All in all a great day in the Huachuca Mountains. A very well organized event by the city of Sierra Vista. I will do it again next year for sure!
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The Sky Island Summit Challenge. I did the single summit challenge which was to Carr Peak. I found it challenging, and feel great about finishing. The challenge event was run by the city of Sierra Vista and they did a great job! Very well organized.

The hike started started at The Nature Conservancy Ramsey Canyon Preserve. The city took us there on buses. The hike went up Hamburg Trail, then the Carr Peak Trail, and back down Miller Canyon Trail where cans shuttled us back to our cars. The double and triple summit challenge hikers started earlier in the day.

The trail was really pretty. It went through beautiful forest in Ramsey Canyon. Then it started going up a grueling series of switch backs which started spreading the group out. Then it went back down into the canyon for a while which was much less step and a pleasant relief. But that didn't last as eventually we had to climb out of the canyon. The climb seemed endless and my legs were definitely feeling it. But finally we made it to Bear Saddle where the Hamburg Trail meets the Crest Trail. The view from the saddle was amazing. We rested there a bit before continuing on.

The next leg along the Saddle Trail started out fairly level with great views. It was also in the sun. The Hamburg Trail had been in shady forest, but now we were walking in the sun. Then the trail climbed with a series of switchbacks to the junction with the Carr Peak Trail. This trail climbed gently for a little under a mile to the short spur trail that led to the Peak. Fantastic view from the top. Well worth it.

The return had us retrace our path back to the Crest Trail, then down the Miller Canyon Trail which was one endless step downhill slog. Passed lots of folks in Miller Canyon who were complaining about their knees and generally struggling. My legs were stiff and sore, but eventually made it to the pick up point.

Overall this was a fun hike through beautiful mountains. Thank you to the city of Sierra Vista for organizing this great experience! I will definitely do this again.
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Skipped the steep Hamburg portion to the overlook.
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Ramsey Canyon Autumn, AZ 
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I finally decided I wanted to see some Fall foliage, so off to tried and true Ramsey Canyon it was. I left Tucson at 0730, but should have left at 0700. I got to the parking lot at 0920, and it was nearly full (which didn't surprise me in the least), but I lucked out and found a spot. Enjoyed taking my time working up through the preserve, then headed to the overlook and down into the canyon again to enjoy the section to the Brown Canyon Trail junction. This is my usual turn around spot. As has been noted by others, the colors are a bit understated this year. Doesn't matter though, it's all good. :D Not too many people were encountered past the overlook, but it was really crowded with folks in the main preserve section. I had some nice random conversations with strangers along the way (something I like to do). Always a pleasant, peaceful experience when I visit this special place. :)
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Back for more Huachuca goodness. Quality loop with nice Fall colors and flowing water along lower Ramsey and Pat Scott. The Preserve is currently only open from 9 to 4 and the visitor center is closed, put your fee in the box.
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Brown Canyon Pomona Mine, AZ 
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Two more trails that I haven’t been on yet, Brown Canyon and the Pomona Mine Trail. I started this hike at the Brown Ranch which is a restored ranch open to the public. The trail starts at the ranch and heads up Brown Canyon. This canyon is another riparian area that birders like, it is not as crowded as Ramsey Canyon and there is no fee. The first 2 miles to the junction with the Pomona Mine trail are quite pleasant. You will pass by a grave site for Henderson (I believe that’s right, had a hard time reading the marker) and some historic home sites. There is also an old cast iron stove in dire need of maintenance and other odd kitchen piece parts.

At 2 miles in I took the Pomona Mine Trail. This is a steep Trail, follows an old jeep trail for the first 1.1 miles where the trail leaves the road. The road continues on another .2 miles to the lower Pomona Mine. I did not go to the lower mine mainly because I was unaware that it was there. I will have to go back to visit this area again because from what I have seen this is a little more interesting than the upper mine. Where the trail leaves the road it starts getting really steep. It was a steep climb up so far but this is steep on steroids, any steeper and it would be a cliff. Actually it is about 45 degrees at the worst part but the lose rock and dirt made it hard walking. I was on hand and feet for some portions. At one point I thought of throwing in the towel but when I looked at my GPS it was just a quarter inch away, I wasn’t going to let it beat me. Once at the mine you realize it was worth every gasp for air and drop of sweat to get here. There are great views mainly to the east. Sierra Vista Looks like it is straight down from where you are. The Tram wire that goes from the lower mine to the ridge 120 feet higher up is still suspended above you at this point. One large piece of equipment that looks like a drive for the tram is also still up here. I did not go to the saddle above which is another 120 feet up but there is more equipment up there. The Tram cable is also tethered up there. This is well worth the trip, might be a good hangover cure. The trip down to where the trail left the old jeep trail was as slow going down as it was coming up. The loose rock and dirt made the going slow. You wouldn’t want to fall here; it isn’t a cliff you would fall over but a steep jagged rocky slope. By the time you got to the bottom of the slope you would probably think it would have been better if it were a cliff. This was a great side trip to the Brown Canyon Trail.

I continued on the Brown Canyon Trail that eventually crosses a ridge and drops into Ramsey Canyon. The Brown Canyon Trail would be worth doing even without the side trip up to Pomona Mine, very scenic Canyon. Once in Ramsey Canyon I had the option of returning on the Brown Canyon Trail or taking the Ramsey back to where I started. I chose to go down Ramsey. What more can be said about Ramsey Canyon, it is just amazing at least the portion before you get to the Nature conservancy part. Not bad mouthing the conservancy because they did an excellent job preserving the canyon but it is just so touristy. Ramsey creek was running and the scenery so captivating that I was lost in picture taking and sightseeing. I literally did get lost (I know how do you get lost in a canyon? Maybe I should say I was a might bit confused for a while). I continued down the canyon looking and taking pictures and missed the trail where it heads uphill to avoid a narrowing of the canyon. I got down about a quarter of a mile where the trail got hard to follow and ended up at an impassable choke point without getting wet. Something was wrong I don’t remember the trail being like this. I came out of my sightseeing daze and remembered that the trail heads uphill to avoid this narrowing. I back tracked to get back on trail. Not sorry I made that mistake though. The rest of the trip was uneventful. The Ramsey Canyon Park is closed on Monday and Tuesday so I passed on through. Not sure if there is a fee for passing through here. I headed down the Paved Road and back to the Brown Ranch.

Great hike with perfect weather. The hike up to Pomona Mine took a lot out of me, I think without that little excursion this would be a very pleasant in and back hike or a loop like I did here. After today’s hike I don’t feel guilty at all if I stop and down 2000 calories of BBQ ribs and all the fixens. Come to think of it I very seldom feel guilty about doing that.

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Ramsey Canyon TrailTucson, AZ
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I was in the area visiting family and have heard great things about the Ramsey Canyon Preserve. Decided to do a hike and only prepared for a short trip but realized once we got there, there are many more trails back there. We will definitely be going back.
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This was a hiking event organized by the City of Sierra Vista. Participants in this event had 3 options: hike to Carr Peak only; hike to Miller Peak and Carr Peak; or hike to Pat Scott Peak, Carr Peak, and Miller Peak. Miller Peak(9,466'), Carr Peak(9,220'), and Pat Scott Peak(8,700') are the 1st, 2nd, and 4th highest peaks, respectively, in the Huachuca Mountains. I naturally opted to hike to all 3 peaks.

This was a neat event, and at 19.6 miles and an AEG of 5,800', the hike was a buttkicker, at least for me. The hike started at the Ramsey Canyon Conservancy; went up the Hamburg Trail; then to the Pat Scott Canyon Trail; then off-trail to the summit of Pat Scott Peak; then on the Crest Trail to the Carr Peak trail to the Carr Peak spur trail which went to the summit of Carr Peak; then back to the Crest Trail to Bathtub Spring, and the route continued on the Crest Trail to the Miller Peak spur trail which went to the summit of Miller Peak; then back to Bathtub Spring, from which we went down the Miller Canyon Trail to the Miller Canyon TH, which completed the hike.

There were nice 360 degree views from the top of each of the 3 peaks.
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Beautiful little hike from the Nature Conservancy Gift Shop up to the junction with Brown Canyon Trail and back. Saw lots of deer this trip. On my way up I got off trail and ended up following the old Hamburg Mine Road in the conservancy section for awhile before bushwhacking back over to the trail. This occurred because of some of changes at the upper end of the Bledsoe Loop, with the new signage a bit confusing around bench #1. (Or was I just not paying attention? :lol: ) I had planned on heading over to Garden Canyon after this hike, but it was getting too late in the day for that, so that will wait for another trip. Another thing I wanted to do, now that I have a Fort Huachuca Visitor Pass, is drive out through West Gate by Canelo. I hadn't done this since the 1980s! :o Being as I am not familiar with the streets on the Fort it was a bit of a challenge, but I ended up on the right road. Glad I went out that way, as it is very scenic. After reaching AZ 83 by Canelo, it was on to Sonoita for dinner before heading home.
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After a nice stay at the Gadsden Hotel in Douglas, it was off to Sierra Vista for the next hike of this trip. (The Gadsden is under new ownership and is undergoing some renovations. I had a very reasonably priced and excellent dinner there. The bar was lively as always; I enjoyed a couple of beers and a fine margarita. :D ). Since the hotel restaurant opened at 8:00, I decided to get breakfast in Bisbee on my way over to the Nature Conservancy in Ramsey Canyon. The Conservancy opens at 9:00 in the winter months. I arrived at about 9:30, and there were only two parking spots left. The goal was to hike up to the junction with Brown Canyon Trail and back. I paid the 6 dollar entrance fee and began my photo adventure. The first part was in the preserve section before heading up and out on Hamburg Trail. November is a wonderful time to be visiting this special place, with autumn colors adding to the beauty. :) Since my last visit here there has been trail improvements, new signage, and new benches added, even up on the Hamburg part up to the wilderness boundary.
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Did the Ramsey Canyon hike this morning. A beautiful morning for it! It was nice a cool, the water was flowing. We didn't make it all the way out to the overlook at the end of the trail with a 1 and 3 year old being carried. Still, thoroughly enjoyable and we hope to go back to see the colors in November.
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Claire and I decided to head south for Memorial Weekend and went to check out the Huachucas. We were out here with the group back in August and really enjoyed the hiking and wanted to return. The long holiday weekend looked like the perfect time to return.

We left Phoenix on Saturday morning around 7am and made the long drive down. I thought it would take under three hours but I was wrong. We pulled into the Nature Conservancy and hit the trail a little after 10:30am. We headed up the Hamburg Trail and passed a lot of people enjoying the lower portion of Ramsey Canyon. We continued on as the trail climbs and climbs. It’s a lot of work. We eventually hit the junction with Pat Scott and started heading up. I was keeping a close eye on the time. The Nature Conservancy closes at 5pm and they said the gates would be promptly locked right then. I didn’t want to be late on the return.

We continued up the Pat Scott Trail and passed the old cabin as we headed up. This trail climbs and climbs as we headed for the Crest Trail. About a mile up I was ahead of Claire and came around a bend and stopped dead in my tracks as I see a large bear about 20 ft ahead. It was foraging near the stream and looked up at me and made eye contact. I stared back for a brief moment and then backed up around the bend. It was way too close for comfort! I told Claire about the bear and we both made a lot of noise. After a minute or two we slowly continued up and didn’t see the bear again. However I did notice the trail had water all over it. It was my guess the bear headed up the trail. We went a little farther and decided to turn around due to time constraints.

On our way down we stopped at the junction with Wisconsin Canyon and took our lunch. From there we continued down and took a short detour along the creek where we saw a Coatimundi up close. We took a variety of pics and then returned to the main trail. The last mile down flew by and we were back to the jeep around 3:30pm.

This was a really nice hike and seeing the bear up close was a rush. I wish I got a pic but was too caught up in the moment to reach for my phone. Ramsey Canyon is beautiful and the hiking is nice albeit lots of climbing. We were off to a nice start and planned on hitting Miller Peak the next day.
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Ramsey Canyon TrailTucson, AZ
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Hiking8.67 Miles 2,767 AEG
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This was our first planned trip for Huachuca weekend. This is a beautiful scenic hike.

We saw some large turkeys near the beginning of our trail and we passed a few groups of hikers in the begging, but it thins out considerably the further you go in. As we were making our way up the trail John locked eyes with a bear. We hiked a bit more and made sure to make our presence known. " Bear. HUMANS HERE" Etc.

We didn't make it too much further after this due to time constraints.

Before heading out we spoke to the women working in the Nature Conservancy gift shop. She mentioned that it is not uncommon to see bear on the trail.

This is a neat area and memorable hike :)
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Pat Scott Peak and Ramsey Peak, AZ 
Pat Scott Peak and Ramsey Peak, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 26 2017
AZHiker456Triplogs 188
Hiking10.67 Miles 4,016 AEG
Hiking10.67 Miles   6 Hrs   49 Mns   1.68 mph
4,016 ft AEG      29 Mns Break
 
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I haven’t done many peaks in the Huachucas and I’ve been patiently waiting for the weather to cooperate before knocking off some more of the ‘big gun’ peaks in this range. With overcast skies and wind [but not rain] in the forest, I put my trust in my cell phone’s weather app as I headed for higher ground. As long as there were no surprise storms/showers, the nippy conditions were absolutely perfect as far as I was concerned… provided I don’t get dangerously cold, I’d take being miserably cold any day over better weather + buzzing bees. Miraculously, despite some very strong wind gusts in a handful of places, [including one atop Ramsey Peak that literally almost sent me to my pumpkin], I was perfectly comfortable on the 8,700’+ peak, [without even breaking out all of my layers]. To top it off, I didn’t see or hear a single bee. :y:

As far as my adventure was concerned, it was definitely a ‘game-day decision’ type of deal in more ways than one. Since I’d routed up a bunch of options in terms of the peaks on my lists as well as potential starting points, I really didn’t decide on what I was doing until I got to Sierra Vista. Eager to hit the trails after personal biz once again resulted in another late start, [although luckily not quite as late as the previous day’s 3 PM launch…], I started with what would have been one of the closer options: the Fort Huachuca side of the range. I’ve seen a few routes where other HAZ’ers have launched from areas inside of the Reservation Boundary, but I wasn’t quite sure how the whole thing worked. The guards at the entrance were very helpful and explained that after filling out some paperwork and clearing a background check [which they said takes only a few minutes], I’d be free to launch from any TH within the boundary. Problem was, I had my gun with me, which is not allowed inside; and given how late of a start I’d gotten, I didn’t want to take the time to find a gun shop that would hold it. Thus, I continued along Highway 90.

Chumley recently posted a very fun-looking route [ triplog ] that incorporates both Pat Scott & Ramsey Peaks, and I had saved his route in the event I decided on those peaks, [which definitely looked to be the next best/closest option]. Thus, I decided to head for the launch point, which was up Carr Canyon Road. However, [recalling from the topo that the Ramsey Canyon Trail looked to be another viable starting point], I couldn’t resist turning up Ramsey Canyon Road since that was even closer than Carr Canyon Road. In terms of public access, Ramsey Canyon Road ends at The Nature Conservancy, and for only a *$3 fee [*as a resident of Santa Cruz County], it would have made for a perfect start point… minus the fact that the parking lot is gated shut at 4 PM and it was already almost 11 AM…

Rather than backtrack to Carr Canyon Road and risk cutter things even closer in terms of the time that would be left to complete this kind of a hike, I phoned a Bed & Breakfast type place in the area and asked if I could pay them to park in their lot so I could get my hike in. They were super cool and agreed. Thus, I kicked things off up the Ramsey Canyon Trail. I won’t go into tons of detail since this trail is covered in full here, [ Ramsey Canyon Trail ] , but a couple of thoughts:

1. The Nature Conservancy has done one hell of an awesome job in preserving this area; and the way they’ve built the trail around the ‘exhibits’ [without making it look or feel trashy/touristy] is really superb. As far as I’m concerned, the $3 / $6 fee is well worth it just to see the beginning part of the trail with the exhibits.

2. The waterfalls & pools in Ramsey Canyon are sensational… in fact, I thought they were more beautiful than those in Ash Creek in the Galiuros.

After heading up the Ramsey Canyon Trail for a little under 3 miles, I intersected with Chumley’s tracks at the junction of the Ramsey Canyon Trail & Pat Scott Canyon Trail, [at which point, I planned to follow his route up the Pat Scott Canyon Trail and onto the Crest Trail; then take a very short side trip up to Pat Scott Peak; and finally continue on to Ramsey Peak]. However, shortly after heading up the Pat Scott Canyon Trail, I encountered some very annoying deadfall, [go figure, my attempt to stay as close to the trail as possible while circumventing the deadfall resulted in a black & blue shin… yet my epic bushwhack return, [including a Class 4 climb down a near vertical rock slab], did not even result in a slight scratch.

Shortly after the deadfall was the section of trail with the switchbacks, and toward the top of that, I ended up off-trail thanks to some snow that concealed the correct route. At that point, I consulted Route Scout and saw that I was very close to the summit of Pat Scott Peak; in fact, the grassy terrain leading toward the peak looked a lot more favorably that the snowy slope I’d have to head for if I wanted to get back onto the trail. Thus, I headed for the peak. Chumley’s description sums it up nicely… and, in addition to lack of prominence, I also found the views to be lacking, thanks to being blocked by trees in most directions. The unnamed prominent points en route to Ramsey Peak had much better views. Nonetheless, it was still fun to flip through the register atop Pat Scott Peak; which, as Chumley mentioned, doesn’t have much space left to sign; [and people were signing all out of order]. On the rare occasions when this kind of thing happens, [i.e. no blank pages AND people signing out of order], I like to sign the first page and did not hesitate to do so here. I’ll have to start carrying a small notebook [and writing implement] again.

Shortly after Pat Scott Peak, the wind really picked up [or maybe I just stepped into the line of fire since it seemed to be quite windy the whole day]. I tend to fare worse than average when it comes to handling cold temps; so it was a pleasant surprise to feel comfortable/toasty at 8,500’+ on a windy Winter day, [although I did need to put on my hat, gloves, and 2nd fleece jacket]. Luckily the routes along the ridge leading to Ramsey Peak often ran just North of the top of the ridge, which meant almost complete protection from the wind. Due to some brush in the area of the highpoint, [along with several boulders that appeared to be about the same height], the highest physical point was not entirely clear; however, the register was actually sitting out on top of a small summit cairn/rock pile. It looked to be in a secure position [shielded from larger rocks on other sides], so after signing, I left it how I found it and did not attempt to cover it. There is a main looking notebook with more recent sign-ins as well as several loose sheets of paper, which appear to be older sign-ins for the most part. Also inside of the main glass register is a very small container that looked like a pill bottle. The pages within that container were jammed in pretty good, [and I did not want to damage them by attempting to take them all out], but I was able to get the first one out with ease and it goes back to 1989. The views atop Ramsey Peak were just awesome; and it was extremely nice to find several spots that were shielded from the wind by the surrounding brush / other boulders where I could enjoy the views.

As for my epic bushwhack return… it was really a spur of the moment decision; and I can’t help but smile at just how awesome it turned out. Initially, I fully intended to take the trail back; but after reaching the summit, the thought of: retracing my steps over the super windy sections of ridge, then trying to follow the trail through the snowy section, AND finally circumventing the section with the downed trees had really lost its appeal… thus, I opted for a ‘blind’ bushwhack descent, heading NE off Ramsey Peak. Not only had I not even drawn out a route to follow, I hadn’t even been paying very good attention on my approach to determine if such a return was something I even wanted to attempt. All I remember from looking at the terrain in the beginning was tons of craggy / cliffy areas… yet after my Galiuro trip, I figured I’d be good to go as long as the topo contours weren’t touching. :D

Aside from one Class 4, [which very likely could’ve been circumvented altogether had I had the patience to investigate the terrain beyond 10-20 feet on either side of me], everything else was smooth sailing and a total blast. There were a few very fun Class 3’s, but surprisingly little climbing/scrambling, relative to how cliffy/craggy the surrounding terrain was. Given that bouldering is my forte, even the Class 4 climb proved to be fun… although thanks to forgetting to remove my gun from the side pocket before chucking my pack down the mini-cliff in front of me, my heart was definitely skipping beats as I negotiated the climb; and it was a frightful 1-2 minutes when I recovered my pack, only to find that the gun was not with it. VERY luckily, I somehow managed to find my gun [and relatively quickly, given that it ended up about 20-30 feet further downhill from where my pack had landed]. I’ll never make that mistake again!

Despite some very steep slopes, there was little brush, almost no thorny vegetation, and soft, good-gripping dirt footing, all of which made for a very pleasant descent. To top things off, the routes blazed by the deer, bear, and our International friends definitely made things even easier. The Brown Canyon Trail #115 is not shown on CalTopo; and, [not having know the trail was there], I decided to contour out of the shallow gulley I’d been in for most of my descent and up onto the ridge to the East of it in order to start scanning the terrain for an ideal spot to drop back down into Ramsey Canyon & rejoin the Ramsey Canyon Trail. Unlike my previous two trips to the Huachucas, I’m REALLY glad Route Scout topo was cooperating on this one; having the topo contours was very helpful to say the least. Very shortly before reconnecting with the Ramsey Canyon Trail, I suddenly came out on the Brown Canyon Trail #115, which was definitely a surprise since the topo does not show this trail. Once on the trail, the rest of the way back was smooth sailing; and I even made it back in time to check out some of the neat ‘exhibits’ along the beginning of the Ramsey Canyon Trail. All in all, it was a fantastic adventure to say the least.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Ramsey Canyon Heavy flow Heavy flow
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Nov 19 2016
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Hamburg Brown Loop, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,994
Hiking11.53 Miles 2,793 AEG
Hiking11.53 Miles   5 Hrs   32 Mns   2.22 mph
2,793 ft AEG      21 Mns Break
 
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Took a daytrip down to the Huachucas. This range never fails to surprise me, and keeps calling me back.

I spent a few minutes loitering with the others and then decided to explore a few areas I hadn't previously been. Managed to knock out the remaining portion of Hamburg that I hadn't done before, connected over on Brown Canyon, and cut back on Brown Spring. I'll have to come back and check out the mine and get up to the fort boundary on the ridge.

Colors were nice in the canyons, and water was flowing.

Note about the Brown Canyon Trail ... the old trail cut as marked on topo maps (and the hikebot route here) is no longer active. A newer cut heads down the Brown Canyon drainage more directly starting at the 6020 contour and ending at the Wilderness Boundary at Brown Spring. It's a very well-built and maintained trail with nice switchbacks and used regularly. Irrigation piping is found the length of the trail connecting several different enclosed and locked small spring structures that divert the water for ranch use downstream.

I investigated the old trail cut, which is reasonably visible, but is overgrown and hasn't been used in years. There were branches placed very deliberately in the old tread every few feet for the first 300 yards of the old trail. While I assume this old cut was decommissioned by the forest service, it was abundantly clear that somebody was making an effort to prevent travel on this old route, and not knowing what might be ahead of me, I stuck with my gut and turned around. (Backpacks and trash are fine, but I'd rather not meet their owners if I have the option not to).

The turkeys were out in full force, and I encountered three different rafters of over a dozen each. Apparently there aren't enough predators here. I saw a handful of deer, including one that was so carefree I think it would have eaten out of my hand. We did see a nice grey fox on the drive out. Not sure it's big enough to take down a turkey though.
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Ramsey Canyon TrailTucson, AZ
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cactuscatTriplogs 486
Hiking2.10 Miles 700 AEG
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First time here, enjoyed the guided walk with docent Elaine. Saw two new birds for my life-list ... but no Elegant Trogon - which is my mission for this Summer.
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