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Hannagan Meadow Grant/KP Creek Loop - 5 members in 9 triplogs have rated this an average 3.6 ( 1 to 5 best )
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 Tempe, AZ
Hannagan Meadow Grant/KP Creek LoopAlpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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I THINK this was a really pretty hike. My memory is a little clouded by all the thorns stuck in my body but that's another story. I remember thinking how beautiful KP Creek was. There were some areas with downed trees to navigate but the trail was in pretty good shape & never difficult to find. There were a couple springs flowing out of rock, cool caves with water flowing through, and tons of little waterfalls!

And then...Blue Cabin trail happened.

The connection from KP Creek & Blue Cabin trail is non-existent. I scrambled up where the map showed the trail starting but there was no sign of it from KP. The Blue Cabin trail is mostly not a trail anymore (until about 3/4 of the way up). Honestly, there were a few times where I just stopped & thought "I can't do this anymore. I'm just going to stay here. No way I can make it to the top." And this is coming from someone who is generally unfazed by barreling straight through thorn bushes. The thorn bushes were so thick, and the trail so non-existent, that I had to commit to whatever path I choose since the thorns really wouldn't allow me to turn back & look for another route. I'm grateful for the footsteps left ahead of me. They were pretty faint but at least they gave me some indication of a path to take. Sometimes that path was up high, side-stepping along steep loose dirt, just to come back down to the creek. It seemed like the footsteps I was following were trying to find the best route too. The hike up Blue Cabin trail is a constant choice between downed trees so thick & piled up that they are almost impossible to cross or a deep dive through thick thorn bushes. The view looking up towards Blue is incredibly beautiful though so that kept me going (also I was listening to the book Grandma Gatewood's walk driving up & kept telling myself if she could do it, so could I!). Lots of water along this canyon as well with beautiful cold little waterfalls to escape the thorns for a minute. The trail finally clears around 1.7 miles up. It was a heavenly feeling. If I were smart, I would have continued up Blue Cabin trail to meet up with McKittrick trail. But I didn't do that.

There is an unnamed side trail shown on maps that shoots off east from Blue Cabin trail & appears to be a shortcut to Blue Peak trail. I told myself before starting my hike that I wouldn't take it because it was probably too overgrown & I would stick with the main trail. Then I saw it as I was coming up Blue Cabin (and had just exited the thorny hell) and it looked so clear & nice & apparently my brain was foggy from thorns because I took it anyway. My advice: don't take this trail. Stick with Blue Cabin trail to McKittrick & put in the extra miles.

Finally made it to Blue Peak trail & sailed right up the clear lovely trail to the top. Cool lookout tower but the lower steps have been removed so no one can go up. The views go on forever. Signed the summit register at the top & found my friends' names on the 1st page! Very cool! Continuing along McKittrick the views continue to be fantastic. Trail eventually turned to road & I hiked the 3.5 miles of dirt road until the KP Campground was below. Went down towards the campground over a low sloping area that was surprisingly easy-going.

This area is so gorgeous but I'm bringing gardening clippers for Bear Wallow next month. The thorns are next level around here! Temps were low 70's but it felt hot. I drank about 3L and apparently needed more because I was super thirsty driving home. I had a couple bear bells connected to me & whistled tunes when I wasn't breathing too heavy and didn't see any bears. The bear bells weren't loud enough to scare away birds that I came upon & frightened a couple times though so idk how effective they are. Hopefully we are able to keep our distance from each other in Bear Wallow too!
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Hannagan Meadow Grant/KP Creek LoopAlpine, AZ
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We started our hike at the KP campground around noon. Once we pulled out of the creek the trail started to disappear. There was no more water till we got to the bottom. It was roughly 3-4 miles of almost non-existent trail, 5 foot tall grass, down trees, thorny bushes and anklerolling rocks. That's a geological term. Look it up :lol:. We were lucky enough to have a dog with us that did an excellent job of finding the trail. We managed to make camp in this area, but I wouldn't recommend it. Once you hit the the boundary fence, it gets much better. After passing the road/trailhead, we hit Grant Creek trail. FYI, there is no sign for this tail. The trail conditions were much better. Down here I caught a small Apache Trout and saw a bunch of deer. We pulled up and out of the canyon and camped the second night at White Oak Springs. It was a nice spot with plenty of water. I recommend filling up here. We only saw water one more place after this. There were a lot of down trees on most of the trails. Depending on the conditions of Foote, it might be a better option for a loop.
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I can't decide whether to wholeheartedly recommend this one or to suggest you stay away until the trail gets cleared up. I guess it just depends on your tolerance of bushwhacking, downed trees, burned over landscapes, and beautiful, remote, lush country. Anyway...

At the last minute on Friday we decided we needed to get away from the throngs of people who come up to Flagstaff every holiday weekend. There was only one post-Wallow-Fire triplog for this hike, but we figured things can't have gotten too much worse in 2 years, right?

We got a late start on Saturday and pulled into the trailhead at 3pm. There were no other cars--on a holiday weekend. This gave us a bit of trepidation. Maybe they knew something we didn't? Oh well, we were committed. We took off down the Foote Creek Trail, which was in okay shape--a bit overgrown with a number of blowdowns to go around. There were patches of healthy and burned forest, and we each got "thistled" a few times, but no major issues.

At P Bar "Lake," we turned off onto the Grant Creek Trail. As soon as we dropped below the ridgeline, the locust and raspberries got thick, and we had to zip on our pants legs. This area burned well, and the brush was dense in places, with some blowdowns, too. No trouble following the trail, but it was slow, thorny work. There were some beautiful views of the mountains east of the Blue River. We hiked up the Gila River and the mountains north of there on the CDT a few years back, and it was really great to see this area from the "other side."

Whoever recorded the official route for this hike took a side trip on the Grant Cabin Shortcut Trail (306) down to Grant Creek to get water. We lucked out and found a trickle of very clear water running where the Grant Creek Trail crossed the bottom of the drainage it follows. I wouldn't count on this water in dry times, but we were hiking shortly after all of those June rains. We camped in one of the nice stands of non-burned ponderosas near Paradise Park and hardly slept at all due to the freight train winds roaring through the treetops.

The next morning, we continued following the Grant Creek trail down...finally hitting Grant Creek after passing through mostly unburned ponderosas and PJ. Grant Creek had a good flow, and the valley bottom was lush, with lots of flowers and birds. In the valley, the trail was hard to follow in places, though we always managed to pick it up fairly quickly when we lost it. The valley is a patchwork of burned and unburned spots, with a good number of blowdowns to go over or around and some brushy spots. As we went further downstream, we saw more and more cow signs. In their infinite wisdom, the Forest Service seems to have decided that the letting cows eat the grass and trample the soils is somehow going to help the area to recover from the fire. Oy. But to their credit, the Forest Service has recently logged out the lowest 1-2 miles of the Grant Creek trail (though it looked like new trees had fallen since the trail work was done).

We hit the Blue "River," which was maybe 3 inches deep, around noon. Knowing that a roadwalk was in store, we'd brought our umbrellas, which were lifesavers on this hot day. Next came the long, hot slog up the Steeple Trail. I really have nothing good to say about this trail. The lower part was hot and exposed. The upper part, along KP and Steeple Mesa, was 100% burned over. I think we went over 4 miles at one point without seeing a living tree near the trail. And the route of this trail is absolutely moronic--the trail follows an old road and a fenceline the entire way. There is a beautiful canyon just west of the trail, but you almost never see it, just the fence. USFS should take advantage of the fire to relocate the trail to have some views and avoid the fence. The trail was mostly clear of brush and logs, but that was some pretty pointless hiking.

After seeing more dead trees than I ever hope to see again, we finally turned onto the KP trail that would take us most of the way back to US 191. The 5 or 6 miles from the Steeple Trail to KP creek itself were a very, very tough slog. The area is completely burned over, and the trail is invisible for much of the way, having succumbed to erosion and brush. There were some huge blowdowns to clamber over, too. Even with the GPS track (and very good navigational skills), we lost the trail as often as we found it. And the trail sections we did find were covered in waist-high brush a lot of the way. This was 1-1.5 mph territory for the most part.

We finally hit the creek around 7 pm, hoping to find a beautiful, unburned campsite. No such luck! Just more difficult and occluded trail. Thankfully, about a half mile of semi-bushwhacking later, we found a little flat spot and an old fire ring. Home for the night. The display of stars that evening was phenomenal, but we were too tired to notice much after the long day.

Day 3 started early (the goal was to get home in time to make our traditional post-backpacking pizza for dinner). We followed KP Creek upstream for almost the remainder of the hike. It's a really beautiful little valley--nice flow, steep, v-shaped walls, lots of birds and flowers. The trail was very difficult to follow early on and got better as we gained elevation and the burn intensity seemed to decrease. Still, the trail exacted its toll--I managed to snap my carbon-fiber hiking pole in half, and my wife fell backwards off of a huge log into the stream. But there were also nice stretches of trail above the stream and lush vegetation. We finally climbed out of the valley and did the easy (and very quiet--almost no traffic) roadwalk back to the car. The FS has sawed through most of the logs in the last couple of miles of trail before you get to the road.

If you've read this far, it's probably obvious why you shouldn't do this hike. Why do it? Solitude--we didn't see a single person in three days on trail (we did pass 2 people and 1 car on the Blue River roadwalk). Wildlife--I got within 10 feet of a coyote and 20 feet of a vulture. Judging from the scat and tracks, there is a VERY healthy predator population in this area. Scenery--lots of dramatic topography, especially in the lower elevations. Flowers--Grant Creek and especially KP Creek were crazy with flowers. I wasn't keeping a list, but I'd be surprised if we saw fewer than 50 species in bloom.

If you go, give yourself lots of time. We usually hike well over 3 mph, even while backpacking. This was almost completely sub-2 mph territory.
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Made another pilgrimage east to the Apache-Sitgreaves, more specifically the Primitive Blue Range area, or as my map says the Blue Range Wilderness and Primitive Area. However, even the latter is a bit of a misnomer, as currently the Blue Range has not achieved wilderness status in the eyes of Congress and to this day remains the last "primitive" designated area in the United States. Not sure what any of that means, however, anyone who knows me, knows that I would have a natural attraction to any area with the word primitive in its title. Similarly, since my first visit about a year ago, this area has really intrigued me. It was in this are that Aldo Leopold (arguably the founding father in American conservationism and ecology) obtained his first position working under the federal forest service. Leopold saw much in his day, he spoke fondly of the "mountain" in fact, one of his most famous written works, "Thinking Like a Mountain" is based off of his expediences in and around Escudilla and the Escudilla Wilderness area. So the question for me: could I find what gravitated Leopold to this area and transformed him into perhaps America's first conservationists, but 100 years later and after the greatest forest fire the Southwest has seen in contemporary times? Spoiler alert the answer is a resounding yes!

A chance encounter with a game warden around 10:00 p.m. on Friday changed my plans slightly for the three days. He had personally just conducted a "shocking" and fish count of Grant Creek and gave me some pointers on where all the trout were congregated. However, if I were to hit these areas, I would have to modify my original route of Grant Creek Trail which stays high above the creek until crossing around the lower elevations where the Game Warden officer told me all the fish had been killed or can no longer exist due to warmer water temps caused by the destroying of their natural shade and the naturally warmer water at lower elevations. So from the intersection of trails #76 Foot Creek and #75 Grant Creek I took trail #306 down to Grant Creek and decided I would just fish and hike the whole stream length off-trail to its southern intersection with trail #75. If the fishing and beauty of Grant Creek were not as great as they were, this might have turned out to be a negative experience. Movement down stream was very slow at times, however, as I stated earlier the fishing was amazing and the creek beautiful so it negated the slow moving pace of boulder hoping, and down climbing water falls complete with three day pack and pole in hand, oh and along with keeping Blanco floating and upright through some of the deeper pools and obstacles. From there I made good time to the Blue River, passed through a little bit of civilization as I walked the forest road that connected my ambitious loop. I took the first opportunity to camp at a place marked the "box" on my map. This was one of first areas where there were not a dozen no trespassing signs or signs proclaiming the owner's willingness to shoot me if I stepped foot on their property. Day one turned out to be a little over 17 miles, camping was nice, but not spectacular, ate well, slept well.

I thought day 2 would be a much easier day, however, that did not turn out to be necessarily true, thanks in part to some of my decision making. I hate to give a negative trail description, because with trails everyone has their own opinions, and I would not want to steer someone away from an area. However, Steeple Trail #73 is probably a trail one could leave off their to do list for the time being. The upper sections of the trail have really been damage by fire and the trip across KP Mesa is enough to make one yearn for a very quick change of scenery. However, that is simply not the case as you seem to hike forever to simply cross KP Mesa's fire damaged landscape where one can easily see areas that suffered 100 percent devastation from fire. From Steeple Trail #73 I took trail #70 into the KP Creek area. However, this trail got no better! In fact, I will give a fair warning, if you do not have a G.P.S route for this trail or sound topo reading skills, I would avoid this section of trail all together. One can safely say to some degree that this trail ceases to exist in several spots, littered with dead fall, washed out and very faint in the good spots. Nevertheless, we were doing just fine, traversing the several drainages leading to K.P. when I had the great decision to cut a mile or so off route and explore some off-trail sections of K.P. Creek. The whole situation reminded me of something my friend Jim always says when I am pondering short-cuts and more direct off trail routes. He always says, "if that way is shorter or easier, that would be the way." Well in this case that held to be 100% true. I could tell from cliffs along opposite side of creek that there was potential for not being able to cut down to creek and man did that hold true, cliffed out once, then took a side drainage only to come to an impassible pour-over so intimidating that I did not even snap a photo, Blanco and I finally broke through down about a 4-5 foot wide scree shoot, hit the creek where Blanco drank profusely and I silently chastised myself. One would think at this stage in the game I was done making those kind of mistakes, but something tells me that won't be the last time. We slowly made our way up the lower section of K.P Creek where the trail is a little tough to follow and made camp at a superb location.

The final day was just an easy hike up K.P. Creek to K.P. Rim Trail, back to the upper section of Steeple Trail and back to the TH. Everything on this hike went well except finding my short connector trail to complete my K.P. Rim loop. Similar to the hike description, the turn-off for the trail is very hard to find and the forest fire certainly did not make it any easier. In fact, the author wrote had we not had the route downloaded we would have never found the turn-off. Unfortunately, the author failed to post "said" route to description, I guess his way of adding a little excitement for the next guy, we found it but you are on your own I guess. After accepting defeat I was reserved to back-track and make the less than 2 mile trek down 191 to my TH. However, this whole thought was leaving a bitter taste in my mouth, almost like a surrender, or a walk of shame in my mind. First a small voice contemplated just going off-trail the whole way until I found something to walk on. However, this voice was quickly drowned out by about 1000 sane other voices in my head who still had yesterday's folly fresh in their minds and they quickly and probably for the better got that thought out of my head. I then looked down and could clearly see the meadow I needed to get to, but no trail to get there. I said to myself I will go exactly .25 miles to meadow look for Steeple Trail #73, if I don't find, I turn right around. As luck would have it, after about 100 feet off trail I ran into my long lost connector trail.

The trail now ran in a complete opposite direction of the trail featured on my G.P.S! Oh well no time to curse and dwell, I was happy to be on trails and heading back to car, went through some pretty bad burnt out sections, but oddly enough found some beauty in them. Whether it was the stubborn trees that refused to burn or the half million or so 5 to 15 feet tall Aspen blowing fiercely in the wind and the numerous reinvigorated meadows and cienegas, I found beauty in it all.

Even with the adventure in finding my connector trail, Blanco and I still hit TH by 11:30 in morning.

Final Notes:

HAZ Appreciation I used a hike description from Arizonaed written in 2004 and it turned out to be pretty much spot on. Which is something to say, as he obviously wrote pre-Bear Wallow Fire. Route might need some small adjustments, but overall great hike description!
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Hannagan Meadow Grant/KP Creek LoopAlpine, AZ
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Great trip, however there were definitely some forces of evil working against me. Maybe it has something to do with starting the trip just off the "Devil's Highway".

Day 1: We started at the KP North Fork trail and continued on the KP Trail for about 5.5 miles. About 3 miles in, my camera went crashing to the ground after taking pictures of poison ivy. Camera Lens Error... So much for carrying about 1 pound of extra accessories for my camera. Canon PowerShot S5 IS - you were the BOMB! RIP!

We did find a good campsite along KP Creek and the temperatures were just right for sleeping!

Day 2: Great day, but really long (12 - 13 miles). We got great views of Sawed Off Mountain and the surrounding area. The trail along the KP and Steeple Mesas is very rocky with very little shade. If the view at the end of the mesa looking down in the lower part of KP canyon wasn't so awesome I'd have a hard time recommending this hike. I got to test out my birthday present, the Solar Dome Umbrella. Really awesome when there is no shade! Too bad it didn't protect me against heat rash on the backs of my legs. We did spend a fair amount of time relaxing in and near the Blue River. It was very nice to cool off!

As we walked between the Steeple trail and the Grant Creek trail along a dirt road I found my next dream job: Postal Worker at Blue, Arizona. The office is only open 3 times a week - sweet!

We again found another great campsite about a half mile from the Grant Creek TH. I had a special treat - I saw a javalina near camp.

Day 3: We hiked up long a ridge where you could look down in to part of Grant Creek Canyon. The view of the Red Saddles was pretty cool.

We hiked through Paradise Park - the devil had been there in 2010 and burned the heck out of the area. However, the elk had been working hard on trying to spread out some fertilizer to help promote revegetation. We ended up camping between Paradise Park and the Grant Cabin Trail Jxn. This area had also been burned but all the Ponderosa Pines had survived. I just did some research and found that the Paradise fire had been caused by a lightning strike on June 7, 2010. At this campsite, it was impossible to maintain any cleanliness. In fact, I still have dirty hands! That day it was windy and many of us either saw or heard trees going down not to far away.

Joel and I decided to go down the Grant Cabin trail to check out that area in case there might be good campsites for the future. On the way down, there was one section where it was burnt to a crisp and there was like an inferno heat. Half way down a gust of wind came up and branches from a live tree came flying towards us. When we were down near the Cabin, the wind just wouldn't stop. I was off looking around and heard a crash. I got back to where Joel was by the creek and he told me he saw a live tree go down not far from him. The wind was howling like out of a scary movie! That was probably the most scared I've been while in the wilderness. I felt the need hurry back up the trail to our camp. In total that day we did between 10 - 11 miles.

Day 4: We got started at about 6:30 AM. We were smelling smoke as we were ascending up to P Bar Lake. Half way through the ascent we could see smoke coming up a neighboring canyon that had connected with ours. It was impossible to tell where the fire was so we made sure we didn't slow down. We hurried up to P Bar Lake where the smoke wasn't as obvious and took a break. As we hiked out the temperature seemed to keep dropping which help speed us up! We completed our 5.5 miles before 10 AM. As we left the Blue, we saw a lot of fire fighting equipment (trucks, planes, etc). We learned at a gas station that the Wallow fire had started.

Overall, awesome trip. It will be nice to return in a few years to see how the forest changes after the fires. Too bad I won't have a bunch of photos to use for comparison. Maybe next time, the evil forces will leave me alone!
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We hiked about 10 miles the first day. We got rained on for about an hour. The trail was primitive and we lost the trail in several spots due to landslides, fallen trees and forest debris. We had many precarious creek crossings with rushing water and very slippery rocks. About 8 miles into the hike, I slipped about 4 feet down a steep embankment and landed in the creek up to my shins. So much for trying to keep those hiking boots dry! Then about 30 minutes later I tripped over a branch on the ground and did a total face plant! It was so funny - I could not stop laughing. I did not have my pack on at the time (a good thing) and just ended up with a bruise on my arm. We set up camp right next to the creek - it was quite pleasant. The temp got down to 40 at night and up to about 80 during the day.

Next day, we hiked a total of about 13 miles. This day we started in the heart of the forest and then hiked about 4 miles on mountain ridges/saddles with expansive views. We could see the mountains in New Mexico. We did not see a bear - but we saw the evidence of bear several times on the trail...we side-stepped it! We then set camp up on a mountain top with a great view of the stars.

Next day, we hiked 5 miles back out. We hiked along a creek and by a lake. The weather was beautiful and we had a light breeze.

The drive back took 7 hours! (It's a 5-hour drive). It took 2 hours to go about 10 miles...after I passed this dead elk on the side of the road; I miraculously started driving 50 mph. Dead Elk = 2 hours of stop and go. Only in the mountains!
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Please see my hike description. Would love to hike more in this area. :D
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