Oak Springs from Hardscrabble Rd • Hike • Arizona • All Triplogs • HikeArizona.COM

Payson, AZ

Run/Jog		Jul 19 2025
		ShatteredArm • Triplogs 356

Run/Jog	8.44 Miles	1,322 AEG

Run/Jog	8.44 Miles	2 Hrs 28 Mns	3.49 mph
	1,322 ft AEG	3 Mns Break

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Needed some exercise and had an afternoon engagement, so I figured it's time to check out the Walnut trail from Oak Spring to Hardscrabble Mesa Road. Temperatures weren't horrible, although there were a couple of exposed sections along AZT that got slightly toasty. Decided to check out how Oak Spring is doing - trough was about 2/3 full with a clear pool in the creekbed and a light trickle.

Walnut Trail through Oak Spring Canyon was nice, and I liked it better than the stretch of AZT in this area. Once I got to the road, I decided to follow the streets back to Pine TH to save time.

	Oak Spring	Dripping	Dripping
	Very little flow, but the trough was about 2/3 full and there are some pools to filter from.

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Oct 24 2024

DixieFlyer

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Fountain Hills,

Hardscrabble Mesa Loop, AZ

Hiking		Oct 24 2024
		DixieFlyer • Triplogs 1,374

Hiking	11.35 Miles	1,776 AEG

Hiking	11.35 Miles	6 Hrs 17 Mns	2.06 mph
	1,776 ft AEG	47 Mns Break

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Whiterock Mesa - AZT #25

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I originally was going to hike in See Canyon to see some fall foliage, but after seeing a triplog from @tortoise_hiker that indicated that there was no colorful foliage there I decided to do this hike instead.

We did a clockwise loop from a parking area on Hardscrabble Road, with a side trip on Alder Ridge.

The highlight of the hike was the first mile or so that went through a wooded area on the way to Oak Spring. There were some big tooth maples there, and the fall foliage was light to moderate. It wasn't spectacular by any means, but it was still decent. Some of the larger trees still had green leaves, so there might be some color there yet to come.

We stopped off at Oak Spring, and there was only a couple of small pools of stagnant water there.

Then the trail climbed up on Hardscrabble Mesa. It wasn't that steep of a climb but the trail was a bit rocky.

We went a mile or so out onto Alder Ridge, and that was a section of the hike that I really didn't care for. The trail was a bit rocky and there was lots of sun exposure on a warm day. The distant views of the Mazzies were nice, but nothing special.

After getting back from Alder Ridge we continued on the loop mostly on rocky forest roads. Once back on FR 428 we coasted back to where we parked. This section was almost all downhill and it was easy hiking, although there were a few vehicles on the road.

Synopsis
I didn't enjoy this hike as much as I thought that I would, partly because the temps were warmer than they should have been. I had previously hiked from the Pine TH to Hardscrabble Road and back, and I enjoyed that hike more than this one.

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[ checklist ] Bigtooth Maple Gambel Oak

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[ checklist ] Daylen Tank Oak Spring Pine Ridge Tank

Autumn Foliage Observation Light
Foliage was light to moderate for about 1.5 miles from the parking area on Hardscrabble Road headed toward Oak Spring.

Bee Tree Tank

76-100% full

Daylen Tank

26-50% full

	Oak Spring	Dry	Dry
	The spring box was dry but there were a couple of small stagnant pools of water.

Pine Ridge Tank

76-100% full

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Oct 09 2021

John10s

Guides 25
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Joined Mar 01 2018
Chandler, AZ

Hardscrabble Alder Lasso Loop, AZ

Hiking		Oct 09 2021
		John10s • Triplogs 346

Hiking	12.25 Miles	1,842 AEG

Hiking	12.25 Miles	5 Hrs 54 Mns	2.36 mph
	1,842 ft AEG	42 Mns Break

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Highline - AZT #26

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TboneKathy

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The weather is cooling off, but before we get back to hiking more in the lower deserts, we decided to head north again this weekend and chose a loop off Hardscrabble Road in Pine. Driving through the residential area near the pullout where we parked, we saw a few elk among the houses, then got a quick glimpse of a coyote (or maybe a fox?) around the next bend...nice to see some wildlife before even starting the hike.

It was a mostly cloudy morning with comfortable temperatures in the mid-50s, and we started clockwise on Oak Spring Trail from Hardscrabble Road. It was mostly flat, easy hiking past Bear Canyon, and we took the short spur to Oak Spring--the concrete basin was full and there was quite a bit of water in the low areas. From there, Walnut Trail had a steady incline to the top of the mesa, where the views of the rim and the Mazatazals started to open up a little more. There are a lot of tanks along the route--we passed Ridge Tank first, then took a little detour off Walnut Trail and followed the forest roads past East Tank before reconnecting with our originally planned route.

On our way to the out-and-back spur to Alder Ridge, we passed Bee Tree Tank, which was further off the trail but appeared to have quite a bit of water. The stretch on Alder Ridge ended up being one of the most beautiful parts of the hike--that area was covered in yellow wildflowers and offers even better views of the Mazatzals. We saw a large tarantula there and ended up seeing two more later in the loop portion of the hike--first a baby, and another full-size but dead tarantula in the road.

The sun finally broke free from the clouds for good, and we eventually decided to turn around and head back to complete the loop since we had some other stops we wanted to make around Pine after the hike. We passed two more tanks along FR 1654 that weren't on the map, the second of which had a sign labeling it as Turkey Tank, along with a game camera and some cattle nearby.

We hadn't see anyone all day, but we started to encounter a lot of people as we approached Pine Ridge Tank and reconnected with Hardscrabble Road. That tank has a large corral next to it, and we passed a few people with ATVs near that intersection, then a few campers, vehicles, and off-roaders along Hardscrabble. The final stretch was noisy with traffic and workers clearing brush with chainsaws, but the views overlooking Pine were nice. Overall, it was a pleasant, easy hike--nothing jaw-dropping or overwhelmingly beautiful, but consistently nice views and weather. After the hike, we headed to some Native American ruins in a residential area in Pine, then to Naco Paleo site along Highway 260.

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[ checklist ] Bee Tree Tank East Tank Oak Spring Pine Ridge Tank Ridge Tank

	Bear Canyon	Dry	Dry

	Bee Tree Tank	26-50% full	26-50% full

	Clover Spring	Dry	Dry

	East Tank	26-50% full	26-50% full

	Oak Spring	Quart per minute	Quart per minute
	Full basin and water in the low areas

	Pine Ridge Tank	51-75% full	51-75% full

	Ridge Tank	26-50% full	26-50% full

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Sep 18 2021

hikerdw

Routes 268
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Joined Aug 16 2009
Mesa,AZ

Hardscrabble Loop, AZ

Hiking		Sep 18 2021
		hikerdw • Triplogs 541

Hiking	11.48 Miles	1,727 AEG

Hiking	11.48 Miles	4 Hrs 53 Mns	2.80 mph
	1,727 ft AEG	47 Mns Break

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The Drive from Pine off HWY87
Heading north, turn left on Hardscrabble Road and drive 1.9 miles to the trailhead which is clearly marked. There are two small parking areas at the trailhead, enough for 2 or 3 cars, and there is a larger parking area a couple hundred feet past the trailhead if those are full.

Oak Spring Trail #16 to the spring
Signs of recent heavy water flow down the trail itself or this trail hasn't received a lot of use from this end since the earlier monsoon rains. This is a really nice trail and the solitude was appreciated. The spring and catchment were both full however the spring water looked a lot more inviting.

Walnut Trail #15
Nice climb up to Hardscrabble Mesa. Trail was clearly marked with a gentle hiker grade so the uphill passed quickly. The only small negative would be the rocks and high grass which forced your eyes to be looking down for feet placement vs outward at the nice sights.

Hardscrabble Mesa
We were looking forward to checking out the new alignment of the AZT in the area. Really appreciate the hard labor that went into that project. The most obvious was the lack of rocks which made for smooth sailing. We actually hiked out and back to Alder Ridge where we took a short refueling break while enjoying the views.

FR 1654/1655
These two FR's complete the loop back to Hardscrabble Road. Very nice two-track hiking, lots of pine trees, several tanks along the way, and no people seen until we hit Hardscrabble Road. On Hardscrabble Road we passed several race check-in tables as some mountain bike event was in progress. Crossed several bikers walking their bikes up the road as we were walking down as the road is a little steep going up.

Although a little warm this time of year on the Mesa this 12 mile hike was a very enjoyable. A nice shorter variation than the similar lasso loop from the Pine TH. Great day!

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[ checklist ] Oak Spring

	Bear Canyon	Dry	Dry
	Only slightly damp.

	Oak Spring	Quart per minute	Quart per minute
	Spring and catchment were full.

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Oct 28 2020

DixieFlyer

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Fountain Hills,

Pining for Oak Spring, AZ

Hiking		Oct 28 2020
		DixieFlyer • Triplogs 1,374

Hiking	11.00 Miles	1,963 AEG

Hiking	11.00 Miles	4 Hrs 26 Mns	2.73 mph
	1,963 ft AEG	24 Mns Break

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I was driving through Pine on my way to the Grand Canyon, and decided to stop and do this hike since I was in the area. The Oak Spring Trail got on my radar screen after reading a triplog that @hikerdw posted the other day.

Starting from the Pine TH I took the Oak Spring Trail to Oak Spring. Then I went north to Hardscrabble Mesa Rd, aka FR 428. From there I reversed course and went back to the TH.

I really enjoyed the hike. I wish that I had more time and I would have done the loop around Hardscrabble Mesa that @hikerdw did on his hike.

There were quite a few big tooth maples with some showy fall color in the stretch between Oak Spring and Hardscrabble Mesa Rd. The maple trees weren't real big, but the color was quite nice.

I did not see any wildlife, but I did see some bear scat in the middle of the Oak Spring Trail.

I will have to add this hike to my fall foliage rotation. It might be a nice spring hike also if there was water in the creek, but the creek was as dry as a bone on this day.

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[ checklist ] Bradshaw Tank

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[ checklist ] Autumn - Color Foliage

Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
There were some colorful big tooth maples from Oak Spring north toward Hardscrabble Rd

Bear Canyon

Dry

	Bradshaw Tank	51-75% full	51-75% full
	It looks like cattle frequent this tank, so I don't think that I would want to drink out of it

	Oak Spring	Dry	Dry
	I did not see any water anywhere

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Nov 11 2017

hikeaz

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Joined May 13 2002
Tempe, AZ

Payson, AZ

Hiking		Nov 11 2017
		hikeaz • Triplogs 225

Hiking	7.00 Miles	552 AEG

Hiking	7.00 Miles
	552 ft AEG

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Hiked a bit of a "T" hike, starting at Hardscrabble down to Oak Spring then eastish on the Oak Trail #16 and headed down-and-back the Narrows about an hour each way and then over to the Pine T/H.
Leaves are about 3 weeks past prime but still colorful, especially the maples.
Saw Shawn R. and a couple of com-padres apparently scouting a trail re-route near the Narrows intersection. Also saw the AzT section steward out for a walk on the Oak Trail.

Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate

	Oak Spring	Gallon + per minute	Gallon + per minute
	Trough is full with flowing water.

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Sep 23 2017

The_Eagle

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Far NE Phoenix,

Good-Pine-Oak-Walnut-StrawBearyfoot, AZ

Hiking		Sep 23 2017
		The_Eagle • Triplogs 2,760

Hiking	18.48 Miles	2,982 AEG

Hiking	18.48 Miles	7 Hrs 45 Mns		2.49 mph
	2,982 ft AEG	20 Mns Break	14 LBS Pack

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Good Enough Trail

Pine Canyon Trail #26

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Denny and Joe refused to hike with me 2 weeks in a row.
The Dbacks kept me up late. I slept in until 6:00 and didn't hit the trail until 8:00.

Got dropped off at the Good Enough Trail. First time on this one. It's in decent shape and a short steady climb to The Pine Canyon Trail. Passed up Wild Bill Spring on the way up.

Pine Canyon Trail #26 yields great views down to Pine and back into the canyon. It's a super highway. A brief stint on the Highline trail and I was at the Pine TH.

I had not been on the Oak Spring Trail #16 in over 7 years, since we did the AZT in 2010. It really has a lot to offer. You get to peak at "The Narrows" (on my list) on your way to the picturesque Bradshaw Tank and meadow area. The blind has been changed up from last time through, with the same familiar note inside.

The drop and views into Oak Spring Canyon is what I'd remembered most about this trail. It did not disappoint.

I was going to take a side trip to relive the Butterfly Whisperer moment [ photo ] [ photo ] , but I was on a timetable.

I'd forgotten everything about the Walnut Trail #251. I'm sure there may be some walnut trees here, but most of what I saw were Oaks and Maples on the cusp of their seasonal turning. Worth a visit for sure.

The Pine Strawberry Trail #15 is a MTB highway, yet I saw none. This is an enjoyable trail that has had some slight reroutes since my last time through.

I finished up on the Bearfoot Trail.

I saw 4 hikers total on an absolutely perfect weather day.

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[ checklist ] Bradshaw Tank Wild Bill Wildlife Spring

Autumn Foliage Observation Isolated
Walnut Canyon's maples are just starting to turn.

Bear Canyon

Dry

Bradshaw Creek - Pine

Dry

Bradshaw Tank

76-100% full

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Mar 21 2016

nathanbrisk

Routes 27
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Phoenix, AZ

Payson, AZ

Backpack		Mar 21 2016
		nathanbrisk • Triplogs 56

Backpack	9.07 Miles	1,212 AEG

Backpack	9.07 Miles
	1,212 ft AEG		55 LBS Pack

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Barbershop Trail #91

U - Bar Trail #28

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My bros and I had a bit of a hassle getting on the trail!

We were all set to get to the Roger's Canyon trail via the Roger's Trough trailhead . . . I've been into Angel Basin six times, but I've never had enough time to check out the cliff dwellings. In the past, we've started at the Woodbury Trailhead, and lemme tell ya--the hike up to Tortilla Flat (the junction of the JF Trail and the Roger's Canyon Trail) is a beast . . . I don't want to do that hike again (with a pack). So this time, the plan was to bring a high clearance vehicle to the Roger's Trough trailhead. But, I had engine trouble at the last minute. DOH. A low clearance minivan will have to do. :lol:

Next plan--hit up the Barbershop Trail and U-Bar trail on the Mogollon Rim. I've had great experiences there in the past. So we drive up to Woods Canyon Lake to hop on the Rim Road (FS300) only to find that . . . it's frickin' closed. People close roads? Who would have thought? Not me . . . I guess the road wasn't passable or something. Even the visitor center had a sign on the door saying it wouldn't be open until May-ish. So I figured we'd just get on the Rim Road from the west side off the AZ87. We drove back down the 260 into Payson, and my brother pulled over into a parking lot and suggested I call the ranger station. And sho nuff . . . the Rim Road was ALSO closed from the east. So what am I gonna do? I fire up HAZ on my cell phone and try to find something that has water. 30 minutes later . . . voila! Oak Spring Trail out of Pine, AZ it is.

We parked the minivan at 34.3714183, -111.4797109 on Hardscrabble Mesa Rd and headed down the Walnut Trail. I had found from the HAZ entry that Oak Spring was about 4.5 miles in or so . . . . So we made it to the junction of the Walnut Trail and Oak Spring Trail and I thought to myself "well we're looking for the spring, so that must be up the Oak Spring Trail," so regrettably, we took the Oak Spring Trail thinking that Oak Spring was up that way. So we ended up hiking to what we later found out was Bradshaw Tank. There was some good water here for treating at 34.3679893, -111.4558701. That was coo. We set up camp in Bradshaw meadow. You can find our firepit at 34.3688631, -111.4589177, and you can find our awesome natural toilet at 34.3691812, -111.4588189. This seemed to be reaaaaallllyyy close to town. My cell service was off the hizzle. Maybe we shouldn't have camped there . . . not sure. But we were tired and hongry.

That night, I figured that we didn't really find Oak Spring, so it was probably just further down the Walnut trail. So we hiked back to that fateful trail junction and went (a little) further down the Walnut Trail. And there it was . . . Oak Spring. So close . . . great water. We set up camp this next night at 34.3500167, -111.4728984, and we set up another rockin natural toilet at 34.3502227, -111.4724498. You're welcome.

Good 2 night trip

Wildflowers Observation Light

	Oak Spring	Quart per minute	Quart per minute
	plenty of water flowing. Horse trough was full

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May 03 2015

winotron

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Phoenix, AZ

Payson, AZ

Hiking		May 03 2015
		winotron • Triplogs 298

Hiking	4.54 Miles	764 AEG

Hiking	4.54 Miles	2 Hrs 50 Mns		2.02 mph
	764 ft AEG	35 Mns Break	5 LBS Pack

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My girlfriend and I were staying at a cabin in Pine for the weekend, and this hike was only about 5 minutes away, so we figured we'd check it out. Didn't expect a whole lot from this hike, but it turned out to be pretty nice. We were thinking we missed the trailhead, but it turns out we actually hadn't gone far enough down the road. The TH is very visible from the road and there's enough parking for several cars. It was a little warm when we got there but there was some cloud cover and a breeze.

Most of the trail meandered gently through the forest. The area is very lush with a lot of greenery. At some points we got some good views of the canyon. There were some nice patches of wildflowers here and there. The area seemed very vibrant and alive. I've never seen so many butterflies in one place!

I didn't do a whole lot of research on this one, so a couple miles in when we got to the sign pointing left to the Oak Spring Trail, we figured that was the way to the spring. You'd think the "Oak Spring Trail" would get you to Oak Spring, right? Nope. Lol. The trail immediately started switchbacking up out of the other side of the canyon and we knew we went the wrong way. We backtracked to the sign and just continued ahead on the Walnut Trail for a few minutes and saw the sign for the spring itself. There were a couple nice little meadows before getting to the spring.

The spring area was a very nice shaded setting, though it was loaded with yellowjackets. Looked to be a good amount of water coming from the spring, but it was hard to see it as it was almost completely covered in greenery. We enjoyed the shade, dodged the yellowjackets, and hung out for a while before heading back. The hike back was a nice stroll. Saw a good sized snake on the way back.

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Wildflowers Observation Light

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Oct 13 2013

mazatzal

Routes 36
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Joined Jul 28 2004
Scottsdale, AZ

Whiterock Mesa - AZT #25

Whiterock Mesa - AZT #25

Payson, AZ

Hiking		Oct 13 2013
		mazatzal • Triplogs 1,347

Hiking	10.60 Miles	1,860 AEG

Hiking	10.60 Miles	6 Hrs 30 Mns	1.90 mph
	1,860 ft AEG	55 Mns Break

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From Pine TH headed out on Oak Spring trail to the intersection with Walnut Trail and up onto Pine Ridge a bit past Ridge Tank. There is a lot more loose rock on Oak Spring trail than I remember. Autumn colors are just getting going in this area, probably 2+ weeks until prime. Great weather and some nice views of the RIm.

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[ checklist ] Oak Spring

Oak Spring

Dripping

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Oct 28 2012

Sarae

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Joined May 14 2008
Tucson, AZ

Payson, AZ

Hiking		Oct 28 2012
		Sarae • Triplogs 94

Hiking	2.30 Miles	394 AEG

Hiking	2.30 Miles
	394 ft AEG

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Wendy and I had spent the weekend in Pine learning about being AZT stewards and trail maintenance in general, and we wanted to stretch our legs a bit and see some fall color before heading back down to Tucson. It was recommended that we check out this trail since we didn't have much time, and it was perfect. We saw maples as soon as we dropped into the canyon. The weather was perfect and we had the trail all to our selves. We didn't make it all the way to the spring, but the trail is a very quick, easy hike. We just spent too much time gawking at the leaves

A fun way to end a fun weekend.

Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial

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Oct 28 2012

writelots

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Joined Nov 22 2005
Tucson, AZ

Payson, AZ

Hiking		Oct 28 2012
		writelots • Triplogs 341

Hiking	2.30 Miles	394 AEG

Hiking	2.30 Miles
	394 ft AEG

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Totally awesome way to wrap up a weekend spent learning more about the duties of an Arizona Trail Steward. Chelsea from the FS recommended this walk to us as a great way to get to some fall color, and she was right! She claims that this area has the greatest concentration of maples in her forest unit, and I can totally see why. What an awesome hike - if only we hadn't had that drive to Tucson looming over us, we might have gone the whole way to the spring

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[ checklist ] Bigtooth Maple

Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial

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Jul 25 2010

DarthStiller

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Joined Jul 05 2006
Mesa, AZ

Payson, AZ

Hiking		Jul 25 2010
		DarthStiller • Triplogs 856

Hiking	13.00 Miles	2,400 AEG

Hiking	13.00 Miles	5 Hrs 4 Mns	2.57 mph
	2,400 ft AEG

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	The_Eagle	Tough_Boots

I decided at the last minute to change this hike to a shuttle hike instead of out and back since I looked at tonyp's book and saw that it was 9 miles one way from the Pine TH the Strawberry TH and not round trip. That turned out to be a very good thing because we were pretty tired once we got the the Strawberry TH.

We had lunch at the Strawberry TH and made our way up FR608T (according to Jim's notes), although most maps I have show this as an unnamed trail.

The scenery at the beginning of the Oak Springs trail is very mediocre until you get away from the development. From Hardscrabble Road to 87 was a little nicer as we gained elevation and could see farther. Along FR608T there was only one section where you could get some nice views. We also heard a rattlesnake hiding under a rock along there on our way back but I never saw it.

The clouds threatened rain most of the day but none hit us until the ride home. It was a bit muggy and I was drenched by the end of the day. There were some nice breezes here and there but not enough.

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Jul 25 2010

Tough_Boots

Routes 67
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Triplogs 755

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Joined Mar 28 2008
Phoenix, AZ

Oak Walnut Strawberry Salad AZ, AZ

Hiking		Jul 25 2010
		Tough_Boots • Triplogs 755

Hiking	13.70 Miles	2,800 AEG

Hiking	13.70 Miles	6 Hrs 40 Mns	2.06 mph
	2,800 ft AEG

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Rock Wall Trail #608

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Okay, I'll go with the generic salad on this one. We did a shuttle starting at the Pine TH and took the Oak Creek Trail to Hardscrabble Road. We then hit trail #15 up to the Strawberry TH and then cut down the 87 to what Jim has figured out to be FR608T (an old jeep road). I had a great time meeting some of the HAZ crew.

Trail #15 turned out to be a nice little gem of a trail with great views over pine and the few people we saw on it were worth having conversation (or at least making jokes) about. I think most of us expected a flat, barren stretch of trail due to the seemingly lack of use, but we were pleasantly surprised.

FR608T was the real pumpkin of the day for me but worth getting up. The first stretch is rocky and steep as all get out and my lungs tried to tell me "no." Letting the crew go on with out me, I took a nice rest on a rock for 20 minutes and continued up. Pretty soon the road turns less rocky and into a more comfortable climb taking you into pine areas with a few really amazing views. This road is getting a new name by the crew and I personally vote for Jim's first idea but I don't think that one will win out.

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Jul 25 2010

The_Eagle

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Joined Jan 20 2009
Far NE Phoenix,

Oak Walnut Strawberry Salad, AZ

Hiking		Jul 25 2010
		The_Eagle • Triplogs 2,760

Hiking	13.80 Miles	2,908 AEG

Hiking	13.80 Miles	6 Hrs 28 Mns	2.13 mph
	2,908 ft AEG

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	joebartels	Tough_Boots

I really enjoyed this hike more than I expected. Jim got us up to the Strawberry TH (unmarked, at the 270 mile marker), where we met The Stillernator, aka Stiller, aka Chris, Tough Boots, aka Kyle, and set up the shuttle back to the Pine TH.

The first bit until you get to the Bradshaw Meadow Watershed Project was a bit bla, but then there was some great terrain and views. Not that tough of a hike but enough to get a workout. Views from Trail #15 (the Strawberry-Pine Trail from what I've been able to find) were pretty darn nice. Blue skies and Big white puffy Fraley's were a welcome site. We took a bit of lunch at the Strawberry TH and then started the journey across Rt 87 to what is now known as Rock Wall Trail 608T. This is an old jeep trail that starts at Rt 87 and cuts off some distance going north to meet Rt 87 once again. Someone put a bunch of work into this route building 20' tall rock retaining walls on the inside corners of the switchbacks in at least 5 different places. I was impressed. But then again I'm easily impressed. This trail had one rocky section that was a bit hard on the feet after a day of hiking, but it didn't last long.

A great day of hiking with new partners Chris (Stiller) and Kyle (Tough Boots minus the Beard).
Equally great to see and jab with Jim again and thanks for driving! (Beware of the gas station breakfasts)
Joe-Joe as always great hiking w/ you.

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Nov 28 2009

berkforbes

Photos 34
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39 male

Joined Mar 18 2008
phoenix

Payson, AZ

Hiking		Nov 28 2009
		berkforbes • Triplogs 63

Hiking	4.00 Miles	200 AEG

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Did this short hike after a nice morning collecting firewood to bring back to the valley... Sure seemed like a lot more than only 200' AEG.. I didnt have the gps on me tho so i cant verify..

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Nov 28 2009

steveforbes

Triplogs 25

64 male

Joined Oct 02 2009
Phoenix, Az

Payson, AZ

Hiking		Nov 28 2009
		steveforbes • Triplogs 25

Hiking	4.00 Miles	400 AEG

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Quick run to pine for firewood. Snuck in a little hike before the storm rolled in

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Sep 20 2008

PineTim

Photos 5
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68 male

Joined Jun 04 2008
Phoenix and Pine

Payson, AZ

Hiking		Sep 20 2008
		PineTim • Triplogs 1

Hiking	4.00 Miles	200 AEG

Hiking	4.00 Miles	3 Hrs	1.33 mph
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I actually did this hike in reverse starting at the Pine Trailhead and ending at Hardscrabble Road since it is closer to our little cabin from there.
I got on the Oak Spring Trail #16 around 7:00 am and was delighted with the quiet, peaceful trek after crossing Highway 87 / Beeline. When I reached Bradshaw Meadow, I was greeted by 15 or 20 Turkey Buzzards in the dead Pine trees there making me wonder what I was getting myself into, but, they just leisurly flew away as I passed beneath them. As I hiked above the Narrows, I started seeing evidence of the neighborhood Elk and I did see a White Tail that was way too fast for me and my camera.
I stopped at a high point lookout that gave me a nice view of the spring below, one I had not seen before. After a break at the nearby geocache, I found some fantastic wild Columbine flowers growing in the spring that was running nicely after a recent rain.
I started my way up and out on Walnut Trail #251 which is one my favorite trails in Pine stopping only to munch on a wild apple off of a creekside tree.
In all, this was a very enjoyable hike for me with lots of diverse scenery and just the right mix of strenuous and leisure hiking.

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May 26 2008

cowsnose

Photos 5
Triplogs 8

42 male

Joined Oct 13 2005
Tempe, AZ

Payson, AZ

Hiking		May 26 2008
		cowsnose • Triplogs 8

Hiking	4.00 Miles	200 AEG

Hiking	4.00 Miles	3 Days
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getwithit

Photos 30
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45 male

Joined Jun 13 2006
Phoenix, AZ