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Rock Creek Trail #42 - Mazatzals - 30 members in 102 triplogs have rated this an average 3.9 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Nov 09 2024
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Rock Creek Trail Maintenance, AZ 
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Spent the weekend doing trail maintenance event on Rock Creek Trail in the Mazatzal's. Arrived Friday to help setup the car camp area that many people who signed up for the event would camp. After the setup was complete and more people arrived we settled in for the evening with a nice fire.

Next morning it was hike up the trail for 3 of us with the goal of backpacking and camping in the work zone. The rest of the group about 14 in total would day hike to the work zone and clear trail before hiking back down to the trailhead.

Once the 3 of us reached the start of the work zone we quickly setup camp and then grabbed our gear for the day. The plan was to hike to the divide about 2 miles up trail and work backwards down trail towards the rest of the crew who were clearing from the start of the work zone near our camp.

To add some context in Oct of 2023 we cleared from the AZT junction Hopi Spring up Rock Creek Trail all the way to the divide. So the plan was to start where we left off last year and keep clearing trail down the opposite side. Since we had to hike all the way to the divide we only got about 0.4 miles cleared on Saturday before hiking back down to our backpack camp for the night. The crew working the lower section had also cleared about 0.4 miles but that section was much thicker brush and slow going.

Based on Saturday's progress we decided that next day we would focus on the brushiest sections to make sure that got cleared and to ensure we completed the link up with the crew working lower down. That strategy proved to be a good choice because we were able to complete the brushiest sections and make sure that the entire lower section was cleared.

For people who know Rock Creek Trail it's completely cleared up to the waterfall area. Above that the trail is in better shape with less brush so we will be back to finish about 0.6 miles of trail left to clear.
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Took 3 days off from work to go check out the MDT and some areas I had blown by a couple of years ago while backpacking the AZT. Y Bar was a rocky challenge but it was cool and water was flowing across the trail at various locations. Someone a day ahead of us had been trimming some manzanita. Mark turned around at the saddle after a quick lunch and rest. I continued on to the MDT where a thru hiker was airing out her stinky feet and apologized. No worries, I kind of reeked of sweat myself and had only been hiking 4 hours tops. The MDT was smooth sailing, made good time but tried to slow down and enjoy the views. Met another hiker from NC who had seen a black bear with 2 cubs earlier in the day south of Bear Spring. He said "she looked at me, I looked at her", he backed up, gave her some space and after 5 minutes, she was gone into the manzanita. This gentleman was headed to Horse Camp Seep to meet up with other AZT hikers for the night.

Filtered some water from Chilson Spring (it's worth the climb for the great views), the water running across the trail in several areas was actually cleaner looking, but that's what filters are for. Made it to Chilson Camp by 4 or so. Set up, ate dinner, settled in. Two gentlemen set up tents nearby, said they were going to knock out 25 miles the next day. : rambo : Never heard a peep out of them :zzz: and they left camp early the next morning.

I headed out after breakfast for some day hiking. Someone a day ahead of me was still doing some trail trimming. He missed some catclaw around the North Fork of Deadman Falls, which was still flowing. I didn't see any reasonable way down the canyon without getting myself into trouble, so continued on to Horse Camp Seep. What a beautiful camping spot it is. It was empty so I had the falls to myself and relaxed for awhile. My next stop was Rock Creek Trail which starts off as a muddy trail up to Hopi Spring. After the spring, the trail was cleared well, but it was one heck of a climb. Someone was still trimming manzanita along the trail. I don't think I hiked much more than a mile, high enough to get a signal and text Mark that I was alive and well. After catching my breath, I headed back down to the MDT, back to Horse Camp Seep where I filtered 4 L of water to take back to camp.

Made it back to Chilson camp, had settled in for the afternoon, changed into my pajamas, was lounging on a "couch" I had made from a piece of wood and a couple rocks. I heard what sounded like a tornado coming down Brody Seep Trail and realized it was a huge swarm of bees. Quickly ran into my tent and hunkered down, hoping they would just pass through. Nope..they decided to cluster in a tree right by my tent. I waited until no bees were moving, VERY QUIETLY moved my stuff to the field, quickly packed up and left. Hiked a mile south on the MDT in my pajamas to the big tree camping area close to Barnhardt. After getting set up again, a crew from ACE showed up to set up their "emergency camp". They were planning on doing trail maintenance the next day, just arrived too late to go much further. It was lights out by 8:00 for everyone, me included. Temperature got down to 39 degrees that night, but quickly warmed up the next morning. Headed down Barnhardt trail about 7:00 and arrived at the TH about 10:30. Another great adventure! :y:
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We were looking for a shorter, less committing hike for our Sunday, so we did this nice little pleasant loop in the Mazzies today. Barnhardt to the Divide Trail, then north to Rock Creek Trail and then across Half Moon back to Barnhardt.

There was a ton of water flowing down Barnhardt and some nice trail work on the AZT for most of the hike to the falls at the North Fork, which were probably at about a medium flow. We took an extended break at the falls, did the usual pics and then made our way up stream to Horse Camp for another quick break. The portion of Rock Creek up to the ridge and the high point of the hike has been cleared and cleared rather well, which was nice. However, I might have forgot how steep that trail gets through there. The Rock Creek Trail got a little primitive during the early portion of the descent, but got pretty nice again, shortly after the waterfall. This was my second time hiking the Half Moon Trail, which is two times more than anyone should hike that trail. The trail was in good shape, but I think its hard to appreciate it at the end of a long day.
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A few poppies along the lower stretches of Rock Creek Trail and few hillsides covered in various flowers along Half Moon Trail.

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Full Trough, water flowing down hillside.

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Rock Creek Trail #42 - MazatzalsPayson, AZ
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Visiting the Twins - Sandy and Deadman, AZ 
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A free 5-mile Super Duty massage on 70 psi tires.

Barnhardt Trail #43
Brush seemed closer than usual but nothing of concern. We enjoyed a wonderful break at 6.25 mi.

Mazatzal Divide Trail #23
Slightly rockier than I recall but that was the theme of the day. Nice extended views from this trail.

The obligatory trip down to the falls. Ho hum. We followed the creek up from the North Fork Falls, which was pretty snazzy IMHO. We had lunch at Horse Camp then merged into Trail 42.

Rock Creek Trail #42 - Mazatzals
It was cool until it wasn't. The east side up through the manzanita is remarkable how much they cut out, most grateful. Boy howdy is it steep. West of the ridge which is the bulk of the trail heading down was not a great trail in my opinion. Rocky, search and find on occasions, steep, slanted, wah wah. The geology is remarkable and unmistakably Mazzies! The falls were a nice treat.

The bottom mile is a trail void of 10.2 billion ankle-buster rocks.

Half Moon Trail #288
This turned out to be the best-maintained trail of the day... woulda lost that bet. A few snags of catclaw overhang the trail but you could hike it in shorts. If it weren't for the mundane bajada mogul coaster and a bovine hang out it would rate higher.

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Linda picked this hike, surprisingly her first visit. The twins are Bruce's favorite hike. It's a phenomenal workout and I'm glad I had the opportunity to hike it.
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A white onion of sorts on occasion, then an accumulated group on Half Moon

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A good flowing river. I walked across cuz I couldn't find good balancing stones like the gymnast.

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Flowing well but I was able to cross easier than usual

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Flowing well based on all the water seeping down the side of the mountain

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Good flow, seen much stronger

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout I don't know about a spring, but that's one hell of a waterfall

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Water seeping everywhere

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Good flow, we've witnessed 2-3x the flow in previous years.
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In our never ending quest to choose hikes that will annoy each other, I suggested Deadman for this week. The road to Barnhardt had no clearance issues, but is rattly as heck, and I wasn’t even going that fast, never exceeded 32 mph, most of the time around 15 mph. Joe searched for extra seatbelts in the backseat to avoid being flung out a window.

Got started up Barnhardt at 0700. Decent enough condition. Flowing water in the expected spots, easy to keep the shoes dry. More sun than I’d like, but not too warm.

Quick snack break shortly after reaching the Divide Trail. I ate about a quarter of a ribeye, saving the rest for lunch, and endured endless teasing. Divide Trail was annoyingly rocky for a long stretch, but easy hiking.

Dropped down into a creek to get to the falls. The water flow at the falls was light, but sufficient enough to be a waterfall. We got some pics, then stayed in the creek as we headed to Horse Camp. The falls and creek were the highlight of the day—lots of fun. I rammed my leg into an agave, apparently directly into a blood vessel, because it was spurting blood for a moment until I put cold creek water on my leg. It was very tender for the next ten miles. Nobody wanted to hike next to me since I now smelled like steak and blood and supposedly the Mazzies are full of bears. Bruce pretended like our escape route from the creek back up towards the trail was easy and made us climb a rotten log. He pretty much floats uphill (hot air or helium, the jury is still out) while I cling to every rock and tree branch and try to not slide backward.

Had lunch at Horse Camp. The continued towards Rock Creek Trail. Very muddy trail around Hopi Spring, but the manzanita was clear from the trail. Not the superhighway Bruce had promised, but no crashing thru brush. Steep uphill, I whined about being hot. The trail was vague in many places on the descent, and in pretty rough shape. I would have hated to ascend it, so was at least mostly happy to be going downhill. Nice scenery and geology helped. The falls were a nice treat, and after that the trail became mostly more defined.

Half Moon is mostly forgettable, in my opinion. I spent most of the time comparing our ascent vs descent for the day and realizing we still had 500’ to climb to get to my truck. At least the path thru the catclaw was clear. We maximized daylight for the day, finishing a few moments after 1800. Great day, lots of fun and laughs.
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This is one of my favorite destination hikes in AZ.

Joe puts up with me/it and will join sometimes unwillingly. Linda was a twins virgin, so she was in to rectify that. It was chilly for the first 10 minutes, but with the climb, it became comfortable quickly. Garden Seep, Hawaiian Mist, and the Big Kahuna were all flowing. Having already been there, we kept climbing. Been there done that so we kept climbing.

Past the falls, the manzanita is starting to encroach on the trail. It's not bad now, but it won't be long before it becomes more difficult to navigate with a good growing season.

The Divide Trail through Chilson Camp is my least favorite section because of the rocks, but this is short-lived.

We let Linda experience the falls:
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Something new for us, we headed up Deadman Creek. It's quite picturesque with only one slightly tricky spot in the brush to exit, at the falls,just downstream of Horse Camp.

We had lunch at Horse Camp, where I enjoyed my PBJ, and Linda enjoyed her bag of moist beef.

Back on the Divide Trail, we made our way over to the now clear Rock Creek Trail. There is not a sign at the intersection that shows this as Rock Creek, but there is one that points to Hopi Spring. This is the trail. It was easy to tell that Hopi Spring was running, as the trail was running all the way to the spring.

The last time Joe, Denny, and I did this portion of the trail, we had no clue how steep it was. We were more concerned with busting through thick Manzanita to get to the top. What an improvement! Thanks to all that carved a path to the top.

The hike down was fine, but it's easy to lose the trail in spots because of the overgrowth. Once down by the falls area, the magical Mazzy geology takes hold. A hike to this spot from down below would be a worthy shorter hike.

Now on the Half Moon trail, it was clear sailing. We had worries of being shredded by the catclaw, but that was never a problem. It was through this section that Joe came out of his shell and just couldn't stop exclaiming just how much fun he's had all day and wished it would not end. Later on the drive home, probably because of all the water on the day, he even mentioned something about a baptism.

A good long day of hiking. We started as the sun was rising and finished as it was setting.

We probably hit this at least a week late for maximum flow, but it was quite acceptable and made for easier hiking on mostly mud-free trails.

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We didn't climb to check, but based on the water on the trail, the catchment should be full

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Spring box is full

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Plenty of water in the area

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My favorite kind of weather called for my favorite kind of hike. Mazzies, clouds near and far, and a few waterfalls. Road in was muddy but drier by end of day. Started with Barnhardt.

Medium flow in Barnhardt and the side drainage with the falls. No snow except well above the trail. Maintainance is good, but it's a little tight at times on the upper half. Wouldn't have mattered if the brush wasn't so wet. The trail itself was dry with only a little snow in the last mile.

Mazatzal Divide was dry as well. Decent runoff in the drainages leading up to Deadman. Recent maintainance between Chilson and Sandy Saddle. The twins had the lightest flow of the falls on the day and the lowest potential for increase with relatively low snow levels on the mountains above. Still enough for me what with the sound of falling water and the clouds climbing up the crest of the mountains. Trail was dry to Hopi spring, water trickling through Deadman Canyon and the Horse Camp Seep area.

The brush clearing on Rock Creek west of the saddle is the stuff of dreams. It's wide as Gold Ridge and on par with the other Rock Creek Trail highlights. Stayed dry the whole way up. East of the saddle could use some work higher up and lower down, but it's pretty easy to follow. Got re-soaked for the walk down Half Moon. Rock Creek and the falls were flowing well, and with all the snow on 7559 it'll be picking up nicely.

Half Moon was super clear this time around. The days of catclaw are still distant memories. Clouds topped the crest for the walk back. Didn't see anyone on the hike, no cars start or finish.
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Rock Creek Trail #42 - MazatzalsPayson, AZ
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This sounded like an intriguing Mazatzal hike. Since Payson is now home, I figured this would be a nice Saturday afternoon hike...and if not, well, I didn't commit to a long drive up to Rye from the valley.

FRs 414 and 442 are in relatively good shape. There are sections of deep, fine powdery dirt. You definitely want momentum going thru here, and if it's rainy I imagine this turns to sticky clay/mud. There are two rocky creek crossings, one which has a concrete barrier in the creekbed. This one is the more tricky crossing, although my stock Tacoma TRD OR did just fine.

I parked next to the TH-42 sign post under a shady juniper. If you continue up the old road, there is a parking area on the right as well. The best part of this hike was near the beginning as you parallel and zig-zag across the creek bed. In mid-November there was a lot of fall color in the sycamores and few cottonwoods.

Eventually the trail climbs steeply. At a burned out juniper, it's easy to lose the trail. Look for a cairin to the right of the tree. From there the trail gets overgrown. It seem since the 2004 fire manzanita has come to dominate this ecosystem. While not impassable, the overgrowth was annoying. Sometimes I had to sidestep manzanita while simultaneously pivoting around spiky yucca--a scary dance for sure.

I reached the purple-red rock formations that the waterfall is just beyond. Even though it surely would be dry, I wanted to see these cool Mazatazal quartzite formations. Unfortunately I never made it. I reached a shady area with a perfect rock bench. I was sick of bushwhacking. And from there the trail had a sheer drop on the other side. As in, a completely vertical drop. One wrong move, one ankle tripped up by a stray manzanita, and it was certain death. I sat in the shade on the rock bench contemplating my options and reviewing the map. It looked like the remaining trail would be steep, treacherous, and likely overgrown. I ate lunch while admiring the views of the Mazatzals all around and the rim to the north. I opted to play it safe and turn around.

Coming back down definitely required lots of caution, especially in the steepest sections. It was manageable and I wrapped this hike by early afternoon.

My opinion: there's better stuff to see in the Mazatzals. But please, tell me--did I miss out by not pushing it to the waterfall?
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Ever since my last failed backpacking trip, I've been obsessing about picking up where I left off to make things right. Maybe it's "getting back on the horse" (that threw you). And I wanted to test my two new toys, HAZ's own Route Scout and OnX Backcountry Map to see if they could keep me out of trouble. (The latter with High Resolution offline satellite maps.)

(BTW, Joe just told me that, even tho I could see "offline" satellite images on RS, those were simply cached images from when I previewed on the counch at home. They are not persistent, as they are in OnX.)

But first, the important points:

1) The Forest Roads to the Rock Creek TH are the best I've driven so far. 20 mph at times. Although there are two creek crossings with large river rock that require a high clearance vehicle. (See my photoset.) My friend did it in her Ford F-150 two wheel, but she needed momentum. The Blazer in 4x4 was uneventful.

2) When you arrive at the TH, you hike a Connector to the end of Half Moon Trail (288) and the beginning of Rock Creek (42.) About a half mile? (There's a sign post. See my previous photoset for photo.)

3) Up until the 3 mile point (plus or minus), the trail is well defined, easy to follow. Someone has been maintaining it up to this point because I saw that succulents and large stemmed bushes had been cut away.

4) The trail is steep in many places. Like, straight up climbs with no switchbacks. Doable going up, but dangerous coming down. (When the ground gives way.) I rank this trail as medium-difficult. This trail is probably my limit with 30 lbs on my back. (It might be impossible for me to make it to the waterfall with a full pack on.)

5) I think I heard a rattlesnake. Under a bush. Inches from the trail. And I saw a bear. And the bear saw me.

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The forecast for Rye for Thursday/Friday was for highs in the mid-80's. (Although in retrospect, while it was 82 in the shade, it was 90+ in the sun.) So I took advantage of a break in the temperatures to hike the Rock Creek Trail. My intent was to hike to the water fall and return.

I never made it that far.

Water was crossing the Forest Road on the drive to the TH. And although Center Creek was not flowing, there were still pools further to the west. (See photos.) So I thought that there might be water at the waterfall.

The trail is easy to follow. Sometimes cairns. As I said above, it's clear that someone has been maintaining this part of the trail.

It climbs rapidly and soon you can look over your shoulder and see the Forest Road that you drove to go to the TH. (Photos.)

At 5200 feet, I was moving fast, striding out well. During a stride I planted my left trekking pole on the side of the trail, when suddenly something hissed. LOUDLY. (I assume that it wasn't Route Scout punking me, with its animal noises every hour.)

I don't know what scared me more - the sound itself or the loudness of the sound in an otherwise silent world. As someone in the forum has already said, I was rather amazed that this Old Man could stop in mid-step, push off his left trekking pole and jump back a few feet.

I'm assuming it was a rattlesnake. Although I never saw it, and I didn't hear a rattle. I was expecting to see movement under the bush. But I didn't see anything moving. It didn't make any more noise. (In the videos, it seems that they keep rattling as long as you're in the vicinity.)

There was a convenient detour about 3 feet to my right. So I took it.

Whew! That was a shock. Had I not had a trekking pole probing ahead, I might have been bitten. (The bush was immediately next to the trail.)

(I wonder if horses spook when this happens?)

I continued on, waiting for my heart rate to return to normal. (While I don't believe that I can have acclimated to the higher altitudes, I'm pleased to report that I was rarely out of breath during this trip.)

While hiking, I found a new trick. I had bought a pack of Lil' Landjaeger's (think Slim Jims?) from Costco for backpacking. I sucked on one like a little stogie. Like a pacifier, it had the effect of keeping my mouth closed. So I was doing all my breathing (in and out) through my nose, instead of my mouth, where, apparently, I lose a lot of moisture. This had the surprising effect of keeping me from feeling thirsty. Being a little salty was a plus.

But my trick might also have acted a beacon, calling other animals.

At noon, I was sleepy. I had been up since 3 am for this trip. So I laid out my Space Blanket and took a one hour nap under a "tree." (I don't know if I would have done this after what happened later.)

Up until this time, the trail had been easy to follow. But now I was looking at a wall of rock to the falls. (See my screenshots from Route Scout to see my position.)

I think I saw where the trail continued for the next ten feet. But after that, it wasn't obvious to me where the trail was in those rocks. And RS said one thing, while OnX map said another. No more cairns. (That I could see.)

And, according to either app, I was looking at a 600 foot climb in a half mile.
Having been burned by going off trail last time, I decided not to chance it this time. I turned around.

(Later I thought of a third good reason for turning around too. Up until this point in the hike, there had been shady spots to rest. But the brush/trees stopped after this and I would be in the (hot) sun for this 600 foot climb.)

So I stuck another stogie in my mouth and headed back "home."

While moving along the trail, I heard something rustling in the bushes to my left.

I stopped to see what it was.

"A cow? What would a cow be doing up here at this elevation?"

"Maybe a horse?" Although I hadn't seen any horse droppings since Center Creek.

The brush wasn't very high - maybe 4 feet max. And so if a horse, surely I would have seen it.

Then it stuck its head up.

A bear!

25 feet away!

I said, somewhat loudly, "YIKES! BEAR!" (I wonder if I should have blown my whistle?) And I prayed. (After all, they're God's creatures.)

I was surprised - and terrified - that the bear didn't turn and flee.

It just looked at me.

I probably did everything wrong after this.

While there was a lot of brush between the bear and me - although I bet that wouldn't stop a highly motivated bear - I though I had better pull my gun out of my pocket in case it charged me.

Well, I should have practiced trying to get to my gun while backpacking.

To pull my gun out, I had to 1) unhook my trekking pole from my right arm, 2) peel off my sun glove, 3) fight to pull my soft zippered gun pouch out of my pocket. (My backpack's hip belt was blocking me.) 4) Unzip my gun pouch and 5) Grab my gun - with only one hand. (Whereas I practice shooting in modified Weaver.)

All this took about an hour. (It seemed.) And so I didn't raise my arms during this time to make me look bigger.

I wasn't looking at the bear much of this time as I was focused on trying to pull my gun.

Once I had my gun in hand, the bear was still there looking at me. It hadn't moved. I was shaking. (I kept wondering if I should keep my finger off the trigger, as taught around humans?)

I thought bears ran away? The cattle from the H Bar Ranch ran from me when I had to hike from here to Rye a couple weeks ago. And they're domesticated.

Well, I know you're not supposed to run away from a bear. But I wanted to move away. As it was downhill, I couldn't walk backward. And since it was downhill, I was going to need at least one trekking pole.

So I turned my side to the bear and continued walking down the trail.

I didn't hear any more rustling. But I kept looking over my shoulder every few seconds. Once the bear was on trail, it could come at me fast.

Well, fortunately, it didn't appear to follow me. After a half hour, I stared to relax.

Now I'm wondering if my Slim Jim trick was such a good idea? I've heard that bears can smell food from 20 miles away. These things have a pleasant smoked sausage smell. (Not to mention the beef jerky hanging from a pouch on my side, that even I can smell from feet away.) Maybe I had been sending out a beacon on my way up the trail while sucking on that stogie for hours? Maybe eat only Granola bars while on trail?

That's pretty much the end of my trip report. I arrived back at the trailhead parking area, set up my tent, lit a campfire (Sorrry. I forgot to take the obligatory photo), had dinner, and went to sleep.

Before leaving the next day, I wanted to revisit the Spring that I had so desperately tried to find a few weeks before.

So I hiked the Connector to the 288/42 sign post. From there I jumped onto the end of 288. There's a fork in the trail there at the end. The fork goes to the Spring.

But since the last time I was here, someone has moved dead trees in the way of the trail to the Spring, as if to say "Don't go this way." (Maybe so that hikers won't be confused about which way 288 goes?)

Anyway, the OnX Hi-Res satellite showed a clear trail to the Spring. And about two minutes later, I found it again.

This time it was a lot clearer and pulling water from it would have been no problem. (Except lots of bees buzzing over the water. So wear your mosquito net.)
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Rock Creek Trail #42 - MazatzalsPayson, AZ
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Mazatzal Rock Creek Falls & Peaks 7571-7559, AZ 
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Hiking12.10 Miles 4,141 AEG
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It had been just over a year since I last hiked in the Mazatzals, and I wanted to get out there again while the waterfalls were flowing...based on triplogs from earlier this month, it looked like Rock Creek Falls might be a good option. We saw quite a few campers parked along the first few miles of FR 414 on the way in, but the trailhead area was empty when we started ~8AM.

The major trail clearing effort that I'd read a few HAZers did recently made things very pleasant over the first 2+ miles of the hike (thank you!). They'd cleared a wide swath through the brush, and we could see hundreds of trimmed branches, cacti, and agave. It was a steady climb all the way to the falls, and the views kept getting better as we gained elevation. The final stretch of switchbacks through the red rocks leading to the falls were especially scenic, and we were happy to see that the falls were still flowing, though not as much as they were in pictures from earlier this month.

We sat in the shade there and enjoyed the views and the sounds of calling frogs, then continued up past the falls on Rock Creek Trail. Though it wasn't nearly as well maintained up there, the brush didn't have many thorns. I'd hoped to get up to Peak 7571, and with time tight, TBoneKathy found a shady waiting spot ~ two miles from the summit, and I took off for the top. The trail was a little more overgrown in that stretch, too, but the brush wasn't a major hindrance.

The off-trail portion up to the peak wasn't bad, either--not overly steep, with stretches of open forest hiking through the pines, mixed with a few tangles with manzanita and deadfall. We'd seen patches of snow up in the higher elevations from the beginning, and there were a few pockets of snow on the north side of 7571, but I never got close enough to actually touch snow.

The lack of trees at the top made it easy to enjoy the 360° views. The San Francisco Peaks stood out with the heavy snowpack, and there were nice views of the Mogollon Rim and the Sierra Anchas on the eastern horizon. I found a small summit register placed in 2010...the most recent entry was from a HAZer in 2021. Apparently it's well hidden among the rocks, because there are at least three more recent triplogs for 7571, but no entries in the register from those hikes.

Peak 7571: [ youtube video ]

On the way back toward the trail, I detoured over to Peak 7559 just to the north. The elevation is barely lower than 7571, but trees and vegetation block most of the views, so it was a step down from the other peak both literally and figuratively. I made my way back to the trail, rejoined TboneKathy, and we stopped again at Rock Creek Falls on the way out. I made my way down off the trail to get a different perspective on the larger waterfall, and there were more pools and smaller falls down there than we could see from the trail.

Rock Creek Falls: [ youtube video ]

Back near the pools above the falls, we finally spotted the frogs we'd heard calling--and there were plenty. We saw close to 10 of them scattered around the rock ledges and clinging to the rocks near one of the smaller falls.

Frogs: [ youtube video ]

It was mostly cloudy but very pleasant on the hike out, with temperatures in the 70s. We didn't see any other hikers all day, though a few campers had set up near the parking area when we got back. I was happy we were able to get here while the water was still flowing--even if it was only lightly--and I definitely want to do more hiking in the Mazatzals...plenty of good scenery out there.
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Rock Creek Trail #42 - MazatzalsPayson, AZ
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Hiking6.60 Miles 2,513 AEG
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This hike has been on GH's list for a long time and he finally talked me into going along with him. I'm glad he did. The 8 mile drive on dirt roads from HW87 had only a few slightly bumpy stretches and we only took a wrong turn once when I forgot to keep an eye on the gps track we were following. That's probably the last time GH will allow me to be the navigator. There was plenty of parking space at the trailhead with only two other cars there. One was a green Tacoma with a HAZ sticker on the back window.

The trail starts out with a gentle uphill grade following Center Creek for the first mile which lulls you into expecting this to be an easy hike. Then the long steep uphill grind starts through the thick masses of manzanita the Mazatzal's are famous for. Fortunately the trail has been recently cleared by volunteers over the first approximately 2.8 miles. GH, who spends a lot of time on the HAZ website keeping tabs on HAZer activity, told me that HAZer, @Mazatzal, and other HAZers were involved in that activity. A big THANK YOU to all involved. My first solo backpacking experience in AZ was in the Mazatzal's in 2010. It almost turned into a disaster due to unmaintained trails and an off-trail manzanita nightmare leaving me with a preference to adventure elsewhere.

The section of trail past the recent maintenance was only slightly overgrown leaving me with only one minor wound from the sharp end of a broken branch. I suspect that with all the rain and snow this winter the manzanita will be quick to further intrude on that section of the trail.

I reached the waterfall several minutes ahead of GH so decided to scout out the gps track we had gotten from @FOTG where it continued to some great viewpoints of the cascading falls below the trail. Big mistake, I had forgotten the perils of trying to follow the gps track of a rock climber. After several attempts to follow his track I decided it was too dangerous for me and settled with the few photos I got from the trail. There was a nice flow of water over the falls making it quite picturesque. After GH showed up we rested up for a while eating our trail snacks before starting our uneventful return to the trailhead.

The highlights of this hike were the amazing long distance views towards the Mogollon Rim from the higher altitudes of the trail, the rugged beauty of the Mazatzal mountains, seeing the waterfall at a rare time when it had a good flow of water and of course getting out on the trails again with old hiking buddy, Grasshopper.
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Rock Creek Trail #42 - MazatzalsPayson, AZ
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Hiking6.50 Miles 2,513 AEG
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I was in no physical condition at my present age to take this one on having not hiked since Oct'22, and having also had a recent Jan'23 surgery requiring a two-month recovery period, but somehow-someway I seem to have always been able to rise to the occasion on most of these more strenuous hikes that I seem to enjoy. I did plan originally to join Oregon_Hiker on this hike for only ~two miles in, then plan to return to the TH and have a picnic waiting for his hike completion and return.

The weather forecast was good and with our AZ YR2023 unseasonable wet Winter and wet early Spring, I had a good feeling that our planned destination for this hike to the impressive Rock Creek Falls would be perfect timing and it was [ photo ] .

I still felt pretty good at the two mile mark, so I continued on. I was pretty wasted by the time I reached the falls area, arriving at least 25 minutes after OH arrived, but I'm glad I continued on. On the way back (all downhill) I'm sure I cost OH another 30 minutes minimum, and he only had to help me up from a fall once, but I did complete it and even though in pain and legs of rubber, in hindsight, a rewarding kind of pain :)

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This Hike Guide did not have the can be confusing, 8-mile one way, off-road Driving Route posted from Rye, AZ, on Hwy 87 to the Rock Creek Trail #42 Park/TH Start. My posted 4/9/23 Gps route with key waypoints included is now this correct driving route for as needed download and following.
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Mazzy Falls and Flowers, AZ 
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This was 2 different hikes in the Mazatzal Mountains to check out a waterfall and take a look at some wildflowers:
1) Rock Creek Trail to the falls
2) South Fork Trail

Rock Creek Falls
I had only been on the Rock Creek Trail once, on a hike to Peak 7571. This time I just went as far as Rock Creek Falls in order to check out the falls and see if there were any wildflowers blooming along the way.

From where I parked, the first 2.75 miles of the trail were in great shape, thanks to the efforts of @mazatzal , @sredfield , and others. The next 1/4 mile or so was slightly overgrown, but after that the trail was fairly brushy, but not impassable; and not too far from the falls.

There was some really good water flow at the falls, so the hike up was definitely worth it. If you ask me, I thought that these falls were better than Big Kahuna Falls on the Barnhardt Trail. We went a short distance past the falls to check out the view looking down on the falls -- this short trip was well worth it imho.

Wildflowers weren't great on the trail, but there were enough blooms to add some color to the hike.

I like the Rock Creek Trail -- it has good views both going up and coming back down, and there was sure a nice payoff on this trip. There is a good bit of elevation gain on the trail, so count on getting a decent workout.

South Fork Trail
A couple of years ago I did the Gold Ridge-South Fork loop, and there was a really nice wildflower showing on the South Fork Trail about 2 miles from the end of the hike. So we decided to start from the Deer Creek TH and hike a couple of miles up the South Fork Trail to check out the flowers. Unfortunately, the display this year was a bit underwhelming at this point. There were a number of flowers blooming, but I would call the display "moderate". The flowers were nice to look at, but I did not recommend going all the way out there to look at flowers -- there have been much better places to go this year.

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Rock Creek Falls was the definite highlight of the day! The water flow is much better right now than it was last year at this time when I was there.

Distance and elevation gain for the 2 hikes are below. Stats above are the sum of the 2.
Rock Creek: 7.24 miles with 2,559 feet of AEG
South Fork: 3.91 miles with 438 feet of AEG
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Wildflowers on the South Fork Trail were moderate; on the Rock Creek Trail I'd say that the flowers are lightly moderate.

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There was a nice flow of water in the creek; some might describe the flow as "heavy" I suppose.

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There was a nice flow of water going over the falls; I would call it "heavy", but I am not certain how to distinguish "heavy" from "medium"
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Rock Creek Trail #42 - MazatzalsPayson, AZ
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Rock Creek Trail #42 - MazatzalsPayson, AZ
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A second day working on Rock Creek trail. I had forgotten how steep parts of this trail are :sweat: The trail is clear for the first 2+ miles but more work is needed.
Three air force jets screamed by overhead but pictures are poor.
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A group of us worked on brushing and tread work on Rock Creek trail #42 (an AZT #23 connector). A few in the group camped at the trailhead and worked for 2 or 3 days and two folks worked for 4 days :app:
We spent some time looking for and finding this end of Half Moon trail. It too was very overgrown.
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Peak 7571 - Mazatzal MountainsPayson, AZ
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Peak 7571 has been on my hike list, and I figured that I'd best get out there and hike it before the temperatures got too hot.

I started and finished at the Rock Creek TH. I took Rock Creek Trail #42 for about 5 miles to the saddle at about 7,000 feet, then went off-trail for a mile to the summit. I returned the way that I came.

The road to the TH is in good shape. There are a couple of creek/wash crossings with a few inches of water in them, but 4WD is not necessary.

Rock Creek Trail is overgrown, and I was glad to have long pants and a long sleeve shirt. For the most part it wasn't all THAT bad up to Rock Creek Falls, and I had no trouble following the trail to that point. There was a little bit of water going over the falls, along with a pool of water above and below the falls -- so this was a nice place to stop and take a break.

Once past the falls, the trail got more overgrown and the tread got a lot worse with a lot of ankle busting rock to deal with. The trail traverses a hillside on the way to the saddle at about 7,000 feet; in this stretch I lost the trail a couple of times, although with some effort I could follow it most of the way. I was glad to have a GPS track of the trail. This was not a pleasant part of the hike.

Once at the saddle I went off-trail, first skirting around the summit of Peak 7559, and then going over to Peak 7571. The off-trail portion was actually better than the last 1.5 miles that I was on the Rock Springs Trail because it was easy to walk around the manzanita and other bushes that got in my way. There was still a lot of ankle busting rock though.

There were no trees or bushes on the summit, and the views were great.

I enjoyed the hike up to the waterfalls -- the views were great along the way and there was some interesting geology. The stretch of the trail from the falls to the saddle was not very enjoyable though, and I am not in any hurry to hike this portion of the trail again unless some trail maintenance is done.
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Gooding's verbena once again won the wildflower derby, but there was some nice lupine along the first part of the trail.

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There was water going over the falls, and there was a decent pool of water both below and above the falls.
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Mazatzal Peak SummitPayson, AZ
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Had a few goals for the day:
- Get back on Mazatzal Peak
- Check out the snow melt in the drainage to the north
- Use the same drainage to get down to Barnhardt Canyon
- Ascend Peak 6768 from the south
Started at the Barnhardt TH at sunrise with one car already there. Went clockwise to keep most of the climbing out of the snow.

Followed basically the same track up Suicide Ridge as in 2020. It was much less of a bushwhack this time around, and I managed to avoid the worst of it. It is still as steep as ever to make the ridge. More and more snow climbing up, toward the bottom a few inches with drifts toward the top up to a foot deep. It started to get slippery as the sun got going overhead. Fifth summit and first time ever meeting folks on the mountain above the trail. Talked the mountains for a little and didn't see each other again until 9 hours later for a fireside beer back at the trailhead.

Visibility on top was great, the weather perfect. Sauntered over to Mazzy Peak's twin 7832. Had never made the effort before and now it's unskippable for me. Descended from that peak to the drainage through the forest which had a solid foot of snow nearly the whole way down. There's rocks and boulders hidden underneath and I got to sliding and falling a few times. Strongest flow of water there I've seen, but it was frankly dangerous descending through the steepest parts of the chute. It was covered in deep snow and very slippery to down climb through, especially not knowing what was underneath. The consolation prize was all the cascades and the big water fall up top.

Went straight past the trail and down, and along the way I passed Sandy Saddle Trail's old track, which is now non-existent around Casterson Seep. The drainage is the easiest way down there. After a couple more waterfalls, the canyon cliffs out, so I climbed to the east through bands on 5923. It pretty clear of brush, though tough climbing in the heat of the day. Got down to Barnhardt Canyon where only two massive pines remain.

Climbed through the grass up 6768. Easy to avoid bushwhacking, only a little scrambling, but it is super steep from that direction, short as it may be. Better on a weekend when there's an audience for the effort. Clear blue skies and a top tier view of Suicide Ridge. It's all so much closer together than it seems. Climbed up to 7571, which is a similar story for the terrain. Grassy, though not as steep. Nearing 7559 the snow deepened until it was six inches to a foot descending. Sliding on the snowy jasper is a hell of a workout.

Rock Creek had snow until after the falls. As good of a flow as I've seen there. Started to hustle, being back on trail. Ran out of water on Half Moon and it made for a long 4 miles. Got back with only ten minutes by headlamp.
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