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Ballantine Trail #283Phoenix, AZ
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We hadn't hiked this to our usual lunch spot near Boulder Flat since late November 2022 so we were due for a repeat to see if/how much it has recovered since the last fire.

We began with the long climb up Trail #280 to get that out-of-the-way, following #283 around the mountain on the return trip.

My memory seems to be a bit foggy on this (yep, that old age thing) as I simply did not remember this many ups-and-downs... every time I thought we'd completed the last climb another one popped up. But no matter, with no pain to speak of, today was one of the good days. Even though the only breaks were to let Tracey catch up due to taking so many flower photos, I never felt out-of-breath or overly stressing either hips or knees on the steep rocky and many times loose ascents/descents. But then again, we barely hit 3,000' as opposed to the 6-7K elevations we had in the Chiricahuas.

We could not have asked for a better day for a hike, with the temp ranging from 64° to 70° along with gusty winds to keep from feeling too warm in the direct sun.

HR Avg/Max = 101/145

FYI: No, Tracey was not running back and forth constantly taking photos to rack up 10 miles, or the 3K+ AEG, she just used the default stats for the whole Ballantine Trail.
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Ballantine Cabin & CorralPhoenix, AZ
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Decided to head back the Ballantine area after a long absence, with the goal of getting to the cabin, and a stretch goal of doing the boulders loop. Turns out I'm really out of shape, because I was feeling pretty tired by the time I got to Boulder Flat, and figured there's no way I'd actually do the boulders. The fire hit some of the lower parts of the trail pretty hard, but it also did a pretty good job clearing away some of the thornier vegetation.

The catclaw got pretty bad right before the cabin - which it turns out had burned down in on of the recent fires. Bummer, I never got to see it! Poked around for a few minutes, then started back.

On the way down, I actually saw a group of a few hikers. That's a first for me on Ballantine Trail.
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You'll need to work for this summit, which is one of the best in the Mazzies, hands down. It isn't boring Ord, it's more difficult than both Catherine and Peeley. Not sure about Mazatzal Peak yet, as I'll hold my opinion until sometime next week. And there's no silly register at the top. Just Ladybugs and one giant bear turd. :-k The Pine Creek Loop and lower Ballantine Trails are 90% burnt. It'll be decades before this area returns to what it once was. The Pipeline Trail is becoming more obscure but still there's evidence of some badass fat tire motorcyclist utilizing it. No water anywhere, but that was expected this time of year. Just right of A-Frame (east of the southern prow) of Whorled Wall is the most direct route to the summit. It's loose in the first third but surprisingly solid through the upper two thirds. There's a huge dead Agave stalk marking the top out. Yeah, it'll eventually fall over but there are several more Agaves growing in the same place that may continue to mark the route.
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Ballantine to Boulder FlatPhoenix, AZ
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Went in 5 miles and turned around. I almost hiked this 2 weeks ago and I'm very glad I didn't due to the fire. 5 miles in it looked like the burn ended there but at my turnaround point it was still burnt at the trial. The last quarter mile before I turned around I lost the trail due to the burn. I could see further up where I stopped where the trail went. Past Boulder Flat the trail was much fainter and harder to follow.

The heat wasn't too bad, but I'm still very slow going uphill, even with moderate warmth. Once I stopped for lunch, it wasn't hot at all. By the time I got back to the car it was hot, but I was going downhill.

Saw a desert tortoise halfway up. He was dusty but still seemed healthy and moved pretty well. Interesting to see how this area looks so recently after a burn. It also seemed like the safest area to hike with the recent wildfires around and still get some elevation gain with a bit of relief from the lower valley heat.
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Pine Creek Loop #280Phoenix, AZ
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We decided to do the Pine Creek Loop (#280) along with some of the Ballantine Trail #283. Were the Ballantine drops south, we decided to follow the trail North up on for a bit. After going up the side of the mountain (about 200ft elevation gain), it drops back down into a valley and meets up with what is titled the Pipeline Trail on the map application I have. The Pipeline Trail appears to be more of a road. Walked up it a little and turned back.
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Trail is overgrowing again (slightly). Still too early for wildflowers.
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hit john up to hike ballantine trail to the cabin
hadn't been on this hike in nine years
we got going around 0700 or so
chilly temps, but fine going uphill
took the southern piece of pine creek loop, then ballantine to boulder flat
up and over the ridge toward the cabin
we had planned to add some mileage on pipeline trail but ended up on a motorcycle? trail that went northwest to pine creek
we turned around there since we didn't see any way to stay dry crossing the creek
took a little break at the cabin on the return
makes for a nice destination
back through the scenic boulder terrain, finishing on the other half of pine creek loop
i like this hike although i find some of the footing challenging
thanks for hiking and for driving john - good times :)
it's been fun revisiting some hikes i haven't done in a few years
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Kelly suggested hiking Ballentine to the cabin, and maybe adding on some extra with the Pipeline trail.
We got started to chilly temps, with some frost and ice in places. Once we got to the cabin it was nice and warm.
We hiked down to Pine Creek on a motorcycle trail instead of Pipeline. The creek was flowing good. Very scenic. In fact, the whole hike is scenic. Mountains, boulders, saguaros, and lots of running water.
Good day. Thanks Kelly. :)
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Just wanted a bit of a workout today without getting too cold or driving too far, and this seemed to fit the bill. Nice flat parking area immediately off of SR 87, so easily accessible to all, and a reasonably well-maintained trail nearly all the way to the cabin. All in all, a bigger workout than I was expecting, and more time consuming as well, largely due to the uphill portions of the trail. Plenty of cactus and great views on the way up, and plenty of running water. Agaves and Dudleya are found in fair quantities near the cabin.
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Early end to 2022, and for my customary Mazzy year-ender I went back to Boulder. Started the year by looping Pine Mountain, so there was some poetry in ending by looping its little brother. Followed in the 2014 footsteps of @BiFrost and sent their route to RS. Timed right, this route is one of the best ways to spend a day in Central AZ. Jumped on this one as the cold front finished up. Went CCW an hour and a half before sunrise.

Wrote about this in January, but Ballantine is largely no good past the corral. So it was creek bed until the climb out, where the trail picks up until the ridge. After that, got off track before Rock Tank. Gets easier to follow after as the trail heads into the pines toward the AZT connector.

The very top of the connector is gone, so I headed straight up to the road. There's a barbed wire fence the way I went, but it seemed easier than the alternatives. Clouds passed overhead and storms built to the west as I walked the road. Decided if the ridgeline wasn't covered in clouds by the time I got there, there was no way I would turn back. The sky was cloudy and darkening over everywhere but Boulder, so I took it as a sign and headed up the ridge.

It's a bushwhack around the boulders until the first saddle. Then the route enters the Bush Fire perimeter. The only burned pines are around the first saddle. The mountainside is a nice and easy walk under the green, green pines until the third saddle, where in years prior to 2020 the route became a significant bushwhack. Maybe the only good thing to come out of that fire is that the brushy sections of the Boulder Mountain ridgeline mostly burned. It was almost disappointingly easy. Still tough so many miles in. There's one notable scramble before the final climb to the summit. Other than that the terrain wasn't too bad, mostly piney or burned away.

Made the summit, and like in 2019 I only go to enjoy it for about a half hour before the rain clouds started to roll in. By the time I made Pipeline, the mountain and ridgeline were swallowed up. Took a break at the cabin, and proceeded to Ballantine and down. Awesome cloudy sunset made for a great finish.

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Ballantine Boulder Loops, AZ 
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The last time we were in the area 5 years ago, I noticed a very obvious track from the NE corner of our loop. When I got home, I traced out the loop using the satellite view. I had no idea how it would work out. It's been sitting in my files since then. With perfect weather forecasted, I through this out to a less than enthusiastic response.

We started at the Ballantine TH with one other car in the lot. That happened to be the Stiller mobile.

We ran into Chris at the 2.5 mile mark and hiked and chatted with him for a bit. He was on a different mission for the day, also on undocumented ground.

We made the turn off the Ballantine #283 on the unnamed western portion of the Ballantine Cabin Loop. We got off trail a bit following a wash and paid with our first blood letting of the day in thirsty virgin catclaw.

The Ballantine Cabin appears to have been cleaned up recently. Maybe in preparation for a VRBO guest?

We cashed some liquid and started our climb up the new (for us) trail. More than 80% of this trail is in great shape. I'm guessing the majority of the traffic on this loop are from motorcycles. But it does not see a lot of action. The nice part of the cycles going through there is that they leave a decent trail to follow and where there is catclaw, they've nicely removed a large portion of the claws from the catclaw.

Both loving the geology out there, we took way too many photos. There is a higher concentration of balanced rocks out there, than I've seen anywhere in the state. This loop adder really worked out quite well. Great views of Boulder Mountain to the north, snow covered Pine Mountain to the south and Red Mountain to the west and the other Red Mountain to the south.
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After finishing this new portion of the loop, we went up the western leg of the Ballantine Cabin Loop to make our way to the Ballantine Trail #283. This is the last time I'll try this one until it's been cleared. It was a total blood letting cluster chuck and is death by a thousand cuts.

The area around the corral on the Ballantine Trail looks totally different after the fire and subsequent flooding. The catclaw on the Ballantine down to where the western portion of the Ballantine Cabin Loop takes off, is also disappearing and prickly.

All said, I'd like to get out to this new loop portion again, but would defiantly bypass Upper Ballantine Trail and the eastern portion of the Ballantine Cabin Loop.

All washes were running on the day, perfect temps and Bluebird skies.
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Dichelostemma capitatum, Fairy Duster and a few poppies
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We headed out clockwise on Pine Creek Loop #280. Just under four trillion Desert Hyacinth in the first couple of miles. Chris was hiking in the area by chance so that was the second highlight of the day.

Super pleasant hike until just before the cabin where Bruce decided to cross a field of catclaw. Continued up to the NE corner of the classic Ballantine Cabin & Corral. An annual or goto by several but I just find it okay.

Now into the heart ( loop part ) of Ballantine Cabin Boulders Loop we found ourselves pointing out balancing boulders and whatnot often. Patchy snow and recent moisture helped in areas I imagine are less easy to keep traction when dry. The primary users are motorcycles, so deeply grooved stretches on steep grades are part of the package deal. Like many trails in the Bradshaws, the bonus side of that deal is catclaw/brush maintenance by cycles plowing through it.

There was some bad catclaw on the return along a portion of Ballantine Trail #283 and the crossover to the cabin.

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Bruce hemmed and hawed on this hike he drafted long ago. I twisted his arm and set him straight to give it a chance. Perfect weather for patchy snow. In rare fashion, I purposely traveled in the snow for traction. It was some of the best snowball snow I recall since I was probably 7 years old.
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Had been here 1x previously but went further back this time. Took the more strenuous option at the beginning. Continued out to the next jct. Turned off to take a couple pics at the boulders.

As we began to proceed past where I had previously been, someone rolled through pronouncing this to be a biker trail b4 nearly bumping me. We took the trail that veered left, the opposite of them. There are cairns out here so yes, it is for hikers too.

This area is a bit charred but not as severely as I feared. Not a long drive but does provide some heat relief. 🤗
 
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My wife and I hiked the Pine Creek Loop and part of the Ballantine Trail on Feb 7. This was our first hike in this area since the Bush Fire devastated the area. The portions I saw were at least 75% burned. My estimate of the amount burned was a lot higher until I saw a mostly untouched area of desert on the north bank of Pine Creek on the way back.

The rocks were still cool to see, but it was really sad to see all the burnt cacti and other vegetation. This used to be one of my favorite hikes; I'll probably wait a good while before doing it again.

Aside from everything being burnt, the condition of the trail is pretty good, not too much different from before the fire. There used to be a few places where you'd have to avoid a bush or some other vegetation; that's not a problem any longer. On the other hand, there were a few places where I had to look for the trail; in the past these areas were vegetated enough that it was obvious that you just went through the gap in the vegetation. Even so, route finding is still pretty easy.

As noted earlier this used to be one of my favorite hikes. I can't really recommend it now.
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When we realized our first location option was closed, I picked this one. I thought it would be interesting to check out the fire damage and wanted to go down the creek to see if there was ANY water. I’d remembered it gushing down there the past couple of times I went, but I wasn’t totally shocked to find it completely dry. We headed a few miles down the creek and it was pretty slow moving, with Boulder hopping while trying to avoid all the catclaw growing in. We opted to head out of the creek/canyon area and connect back with ballentine trail. Getting up there was not fun, lol. It was very steep, with cacti and thorns as constant obstacles. Alas, I finally made it up. :sweat: Since exploring down the canyon was off the table we decided to continue on the trail and possibly {hopefully} make it all the way to the cabin. On my previous trip, I was solo and a group of older hikers informed me that there was a rattlesnake in the cabin. That was a no go for me that day and the other time I was here I got caught in a snowstorm and had to abort ASAP! So we are hiking along and I think I forgot how much uphill this trail had! Up, up, up or up, down, up is kinda how it goes. The fire damage was sporadic and not awful, but not great either. The trail’s condition has changed and it’s definitely a place where you need to watch your feet a lot. Slippery terrain or rocky terrain with hits of bushwhacking at least every 1/4 mile. We only saw one other couple out there, and we asked if they’d made it to the cabin but they said no. They actually said they weren’t even sure if it made it through the fire, so naturally I was a bit curious. You’ll go left at the split to head over to the cabin. The trail to get there has tons of loose rock, slippery sections and catclaw everywhere. When we were approaching, we were excited to see the cabin was unharmed and still standing! It was full of random items (I.e. spam - most likely very expired, lol). I had a tad of a creepy vibe in there so we didn’t stay too long. Heading back up was much easier than the way down and we started making pretty decent time. When we arrived back at the junction, we opted to loop the other section of the beginning of the trail, since that was going to be more prime viewing for sunset. It heads up the Ridgeline and I enjoyed those views! The sunset was a stunner and we even finished before it was totally dark. Note that although the temps were in mid 70’s it actually felt quite hot on the trail several times; it’s very exposed and hard to find shade.
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I wanted to go for a hike that was out of the valley yet not far. I’d never been to the Ballantine TH so I thought I’d give that a try.
I was hoping for solitude and got it for the most part. I saw a few people at the start and a few people at the finish. I didn’t see anyone else in between.
Love this little loop. I wouldn’t hike it mid-morning in June but the weather was accommodating today. The trail appears to be in good condition. Seems like it gets lots of boots on the ground. I started on the south end of the loop and finished on the less steep north end.
I went up the Ballantine Trail for a half mile, felt like continuing on but decided to keep it simple and turned around after half a mile.
I wasn’t sure what to expect but I was glad I made the trip. I will likely come back.
Gorgeous out today.
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Plenty of lupine, some strawberry hedgehog, not much of anything else.
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Hiking9.20 Miles 2,200 AEG
Hiking9.20 Miles   4 Hrs   50 Mns   1.90 mph
2,200 ft AEG12 LBS Pack
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Looked for a lesser used trail and a bit of a workout, this one still delivers. Three other vehicles parked when I arrived with no one at the trailhead. Took the right side of the Pine Creek Loop and met 4 young hikers coming down the steep portion, used my hiking pole to keep distance, saw no one else until on the way back. Day started off sunny and warm , clouds and breeze moved in after a couple of hours that kept the temps down always seems to me the temps are cooler after crossing the fence line anyway. Shortly before reaching the end of the Pine Creek Loop was hearing the sound of falling water in stereo from both Camp Creek and Pine Creek. Enjoyed the sound of running water on much of the route. Trails are good but be prepared for mud and running water on portions of the route. Most all the varieties of wildflowers were represented but not abundant, some decent patches of lupine. No problem rock hopping over the creek and after enjoying the scenery that would make the Flintstones feel at home reached boulder flat. Decided to take the steep rutted route over to the cabin , slid down into the little valley and across the stream . I can report after a thorough inspection of its grocery store like interior ,that there is no toilet paper at the cabin not now anyway :D ,no canned goods, actually it hardly has a roof still, the breeze today didn’t inspire confidence on standing inside. Sadly I didn’t find the bed frame outside suitable for napping and having been to the corral decided to trudge back with my now slightly heavier pack. After crossing back over the creek I ran into a couple of fellow high risk hikers one had a USS Forrestal hat on, we reminisced ,code for embellish, about our old Navy days, had to remind him divers located more pilots than the reverse. While we were occupied in conversation two lady hikers passed by, was told there was a group of 13 hikers who were marching around the Pine Creek Loop , glad I missed that ! Took a snack break by Camp Creek to enjoy the running water. Traveled the other side of the Pine Creek Loop and used a cow path to explore down to the aptly named Pine Creek, clever how the pine forest has now disguised themselves as Saguaros. After enjoying the water flowing by the empty beach headed back to the parking lot ,still with only 3 but not the same vehicles.
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Lupine was moderate, poppies, hedgehog, thistle, hyacinth, daisies
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Ballantine Cabin & CorralPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking12.85 Miles 2,600 AEG
Hiking12.85 Miles   5 Hrs   30 Mns   2.34 mph
2,600 ft AEG
 
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I started up Pine Creek and did this as a figure 8-ish. There were a few water crossings that I did have to get my feet wet, probably only two mandatory ones, but I'm not the best rock hopper or creek leaper, so ended up being about 4 or so for me :lol: The back part that loops behind the cabin is a little bushwhack-y, I guess maybe slightly more than I was expecting so my exposed ankles got a bit cut up. Weather was great and lots of water flowing after the previous week's rains.
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