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West Spruce Trail #264 - 8 members in 26 triplogs have rated this an average 3.8 ( 1 to 5 best )
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 Prescott, AZ
West Spruce Trail #264Prescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
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Hiking10.01 Miles 1,244 AEG
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This is an out-and-back hike of the first 5 miles from the Copper Basin Trailhead where West Spruce Trail #264 now starts. Copper Basin Trailhead is 3-4 miles on dirt road from the end of the paved portion of Copper Basin Road (near the trailhead for High Valley Ranch Trail #391) and a mile or two before Sunset Lookout. The old trailhead for West Spruce Trail is on the other side of Sunset Lookout about over 3 miles from the Copper Basin Trailhead. Although there are signs on the Copper Basin Road saying to only drive high ground clearance vehicles, I have made the trip a couple times in my MINI without much difficulty, albeit slowly, and there was a Mazda coupe parked at the campsite across from the Copper Basin Trailhead.

West Spruce Trail is my favorite trail near Prescott, AZ. After passing the old trailhead, there are views to the north of Granite Mountain and San Francisco Peaks and to the east of Thumb Butte (see pictures).
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One plant had buds (see photo)
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Trails #393 744 and 264, AZ 
Trails #393 744 and 264, AZ
 
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The route takes Cold Springs Trail #393 north from Copper Basin Road West of Prescott, AZ. Shortly after Trail #393 becomes Potts Creek Trail #327, the route takes Trail #744 (Sparrow Trail, according to an MTB website) southwest to the eastern extension of West Spruce Trail #264 that was completed around the end of 2022. The route follows Trail #264 west to its old east trailhead on Thumb Butte Road. The entire route of the new extension of West Spruce Trail #264 is in another triplog with the same date (2024-11-09).
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Some of the Gamble oaks had yellow or brown leaves
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High Valley Ranch 9401J & West Spruce, AZ 
High Valley Ranch 9401J & West Spruce, AZ
 
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Out and back hike starting from the public-access trailhead for High Valley Ranch Trail #391 at the end of the paved portion of Copper Basin Road. The route continues on Old Forest Road #9401J until there are signs indicating the crossing of Trail #264 which is West Spruce Trail. The official route for West Spruce Trail #264 has the east end at Thumb Butte Road, but now it continues past an intersection with #9401J to have an eastern trailhead on Copper Basin Road. I spoke to a mountain biker on Trail #264 who said that the section of Trail #264 we were using had been completed 14 months earlier (May 2023).
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Mostly dalmation toadflax, but also common yarrow, coyote tobacco, dwarf four o'clock, common mullein, upright blue beardtongue penstemon, Arizona thistle, cowpen daisy, Wright's deervetch and many more, including an unidentified flower along Aspen Creek that was feeding many bees

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High Valley Ranch to West Spruce, AZ 
High Valley Ranch to West Spruce, AZ
 
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As reported earlier, the trailhead in the official route for High Valley Ranch Trail #391 is in a gated community; however, there is a trailhead available to the public just before the pavement ends on Copper Basin Road at 34°30'59.5"N 112°31'15.1"W (see photos). This route starts at that trailhead and goes five miles using all of Trail #391, then Old Forest Road #9401J to Sierra Prieta Trail #366 to Sunset Lookout, then downhill on Thumb Butte Road to West Spruce Trail #264 and continuing on Trail #264 until I had hiked five miles, so that the total hike was 10 miles from where I parked at a wide spot slightly past the paved portion of Copper Basin Road where there is room for 2-3 cars. Most of the hike is in the shade of Ponderosa pines and alligator juniper, except about half of #9401J and about half of Thumb Butte Road, as long as you reach it early enough in the morning to be in the shade of the 7000' ridge that Trail #366 crosses. It is almost all uphill to Sunset Lookout in both directions, except for a steep couple hundred feet down from the trailhead on Copper Basin Road to Aspen Creek. Lots of great views (see photos). As an extra treat, there were a half dozen wild turkeys crossing Copper Basin Road in front and behind my car as I was leaving.
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penstemon - mostly upright blue beardtongue plus some firecracker, common yarrow, common mullein, Wright's deervetch, Arizona thistle, threenerve goldenrod, spotted knapweed
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Thumb Butte - Mt Francis Loop, AZ 
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Thumb Butte Trail #33
A grippy 0.7mi / 620-foot ascent is always a refreshing start.

Thumb Connect Trail #314
The joy ride transitions to a pine forest trot. The name is longer than the trail.

Thumb Butte Bypass Trail #326
A few paces through the pines nets another easy unique.

Butte Connection Trail #323
This gentle half-mile descent is loaded with pine trees. 4 uniques in 2.4mi puts a smile on any trail lover.

Butte Creek Trail #321 - Prescott NF
This one is always a pleasure and feels isolated. The trail travels along the east bank.

Potts Creek Trail #327
The pines keep coming. None of these trails are worthy of the drive by themselves but I've always enjoyed this one more than the name suggests.

Cold Springs Trail #393
A steady subtle ascent continues with distant urban views.

Aspen Creek Trail #48
Albeit short-lived the nicest creekside stroll of the day.

Moby Trail #737
Unknowingly hiked over 0.75mi, we enjoyed it so much we missed a turn.

West Spruce Trail #264
After a long forest road walk, this weaves along the Sierra Prietta ridge. Peekaboo views of Granite Mountain.

Williams Peak Trail #738
Impromptu addition was a better-than-expected treat.

Garden Party #324
The White Rock Trailhead is large. The west end slithers around some boulders, then evens out alongside a ravine.

Miller Creek Trail #367
Signage warned of being squashed by mountain bikes. The creek was clear but as shallow as I recall.

Thumb Butte South Area Loop
This would be a nice package-deal variation for rehabbing seniors.

Synopsis
Various loops here have always been enjoyed more than anticipated. Pleasant lowkey miles.
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Headed north to higher ground to put some distance between us and the heat from the fire orb.

I tweaked a route we did 6 years ago to get rid of a less than memorable off trail section and add some options.

You start this loop with an immediate 600+ foot climb to get to the Thumb Butte Saddle. After that there are tons of choices up here on nicely groomed trails. MTB's seem to be the largest user of these trails, but we did not see a single one on the day. In fact, we only crossed paths with a few hikers.

I can't begin to remember all the names of the trails we were on, but here are some of my takeaways.

Smooth trails, gentle grades, pine trees for shade, four flowing (lightly) Creeks, nice breezes, big views to the Prescott Valley and the Copper Basin from the Sierra Prieta Lookout.

Other takeaways included some of the things heard on the day:
"Is this hike all uphill"
"Is this hike all downhill"
"It's too hot"
"It's too cold"
"The wind's not blowing"
"The wind's blowing too much"
"My ear's bleeding"
"My feet hurt"
"Can you go pick up the car"

At one point he announced that he was too tired to whine anymore, but that never proved to be true.

This is/was a very pleasant loop (with earplugs). There's nothing that jumps out as being extraordinary, but one I'll do again.

Driving home, southbound on I-17, we were quite happy to not be going northbound. A jack-knifed travel trailer and a bad rear ender, had things a mess around the Sunset Point rest area. We waived to @FOTG as we passed and continued home.
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East end of West Spruce Trail #264, AZ 
East end of West Spruce Trail #264, AZ
 
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If you follow Google Maps directions to the trailhead, ignore the instructions to park on the left and turn right into the parking area (after 3 miles of dirt road), then head north onto the trail.

This is the east end of the trail, from the Jeep trail to the parking area on Thumb Butte Road. On February 5, 2022, I hiked the west end of East end of West Spruce Trail #264, including part of the Jeep trail that connects that hike with this hike. This hike has fewer cattle droppings, but the trailhead is near a campsite and there were ATVers driving along Thumb Butte Road disturbing the peace, until the trail headed over a ridge, a few tenths of a mile from the start, about where the yellow wildflower photos were taken.
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The most prolific flowers are in the photos. Also quite a few small yellow flowers and a few others. Several Arizona thistle will be in bloom in a week. One New Mexico thistle and one hedgehog cactus were in bloom.
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West Spruce Trail #264 SB from NW trailhead, AZ 
West Spruce Trail #264 SB from NW trailhead, AZ
 
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West Spruce Trail #264 from northwest trailhead to jeep trail connecting two halves of the trail. PrestonSands has described the southeast half of the trail which has a trailhead easier to reach on Thumb Butte Road. The northwest trailhead is on Dosie Pit Road (dirt) a few miles from Iron Springs Road, just before the road makes a large U-turn. Parking is available across the road from the trailhead and several spots along the road leading to the trailhead. There are washouts on the road which you may not want to drive a vehicle that is not designed for off-road use. I parked about 1.3 miles from the trailhead and walked the rest of the way, which is why I turned back before reaching the southeast half of the trail.
On 2/19/22 when I made this hike, over a dozen people were making trail improvements using hand tools. Other than that and an ATV on the jeep trail, I didn't see anyone else and had nice views of the terrain west of Prescott, including Granite Mountain (near Williamson Valley Road) after a couple miles of climbing. It is a gradually climb until past Sugarloaf Mountain and then one or two tenths of a mile down to the jeep trail. The southeast half of the trail likely leaves the jeep trail within a mile of where I turned back.
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Williams - West Spruce, AZ 
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I decided to head up to Prescott today and bag a couple of peaks that I had not done before:
1) Williams Peak
2) West Spruce Mountain

Williams Peak is supposedly the highpoint of the Sierra Prieta range, and West Spruce is a P1K peak, so I got to check these two off of my lists.

I mostly hiked on West Spruce Trail #264. Not too far from the trailhead I went out and back on a pack trail up to Williams Peak. Once I got back on Trail #264, I went to just east of West Spruce Mountain, and took a short off-trail jaunt to the summit. Then I went back to Trail #264 and followed it back to the TH. On the way back I thought about taking the spur trail up to Porter Mountain, but I decided just to head back to the TH so I could get home earlier.

This was a nice area and I enjoyed the hike. The views were better on Williams; even though West Spruce is higher, it had more trees at the summit which limited the views. Most of the hike was in a forest of pine, juniper, and oaks; so there was a decent amount of shade. Of course, the trees limited the views, but there were lots of gaps in the trees along the way that allowed for some nice views of mountains off in the distance.
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Thumb Butte Trail #33Prescott, AZ
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The Prescott area can be a confusing hodge-podge of trails and roads but HAZ makes it easy to follow routes covering the best trails, like this one from @The_Eagle on 4/20/19. I spent every October weekend in the area and every hike was a winner. Thanks HAZ!
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Thumb Miller Loop, AZ 
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We did a shorter version of this loop in the opposite direction a few years back and really enjoyed it so added a couple new trails to extend it and hiked it in a clockwise direction this time. This is a solid loop.

Thumb Butte Trail #33
And away we go. Nothing like a steep wake up climb to get the blood flow. Blacktop pavement helps get good traction and the switchbacks help keep you going at a nice pace. First time on this trail and better than expected.

Butte Creek Trail #321
This is a great trail. Nicely treed, flowing water in the creek, very nice grade, away from the main trailheads that it seems to not get much use, A+ in my book.

Sierra Prieta Trail #366
Also a first for us. Some climbs but not to bad. Most of the time you are hiking along a ridge. As we were climbing up towards the road a caravan of mountain bikers came at us. Thought for sure there was going to be a collision but I jumped one way and the lead bikers veered off the other direction so the crash was avoided. Let them pass then continued to onward to meet up with Thumb Butte Road. Trail gets high marks.

West Spruce Trail #264
I like this trail a lot. In this direction the grade is generally down so easy hiking and very nice views since your up high. The section we hiked was shorter than I remembered so it ended to soon.

Miller Creek Trail #367
Memory recall is either slipping or this trail has been found by the mountain bike community since our last visit. I had memories of this trail being more remote and less used, i.e. trail was thin and slightly overgrown. Not the case. Trail is very well defined with bike tracks and nothing remote about it. There was a slight flow in the creek so that was nice. Still, a great trail. Saw a small gopher snake crossing the trail so we helped move it along so it wouldn't get run over.

Overall a great loop option for the area. Weather was great on this day and although it was a holiday weekend the trails we hiked offered a lot of solitude.

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Thumb Butte to Sierra Prieta Loop, AZ 
Thumb Butte to Sierra Prieta Loop, AZ
 
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Hiking13.30 Miles 2,269 AEG
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I have not been to Prescott in November in a while. I first started coming here in the 1980s and have many fond memories. I usually leave before dawn, and hit the trail early. Today I, decided to do something different and take an afternoon/evening hike.

It was a great afternoon under the pines. My original goal was to catch the Sierra Prieta “Sunset Overlook” at sunset. I slept in after HW festivities and hit the road from Phoenix around noon. There was very little midday traffic at the Thumb Butte Rec. lot, which was a plus. The fee is $5 a day unless you have a pass. Thumb Butte is a quick shot in the arm of elevation right out of the gate. There is a nice memorial to the Granite Mountain heroes right at the Butte saddle. I heard birds, saw very little wildlife overall, a few insects, a few more spiders and a mule deer that quickly disappeared. The forest is still recovering after recent fire. There were a few fall colors, mainly oaks turning to yellow. The forest has a maze of cross trails so best to plan a route.

After taking a few connector roads, I soon realized I’d get to the overlook before actual sunset. Sierra Prieta has great views. At the overlook, there was a fair size crowd of young partiers, loud music and off road vehicles. The wonderful sound of motorized vehicles revving their engines and laughter permeated the air. It looked like a lot of fun, but the old guy with four wheel drive feet had other plans. I decided to bag nearby peak 7035. That was a great choice and sitting at the very top, I had a snack and recharged for the trip back. In retrospect, it would have been a lot easier to hit Peak 7035 on the way up. I headed off trail to scramble back to Thumb Butte Rd. I rethought my wisdom while clinging to roots as I descended the steep bank by the road. Please do not follow my route here!

The rest of the way back was cake - all downhill. Once off the thumb trail I only encountered two senior backpackers that wished to be alone, and a friendly biker that slowed to chat for a while. I captured some awesome pictures and of course finished up in the dark. Miller Creek was dry without water and the forest in the dark reminded me of something from long ago.
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Thumb Butte- Potts Creek to West Spruce Mounta, AZ 
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Great running route. Lots of great views and empty trails.
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Thumb Butte - Potts Creek to West Spruce, AZ 
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Smokin' good day up in the pines on Saturday 4/20.

Warmer temps in the valley had us jonesn' cooler temps and some new trails.

Up the paved Thumb Butte trail to begin, we passed Mary Jane to begin the day. She was one of the few hikers we saw all day. 6 miles to the Sierra Prieta Overlook, we passed over the Potts Creek Trail on the way.

We'd done a small portion of the West Spruce trail before, I wanted to see more, hit West Spruce Mountain. West Spruce is a worthy option if in the area.

We looped back on some well used "Use" trails used by MTB's.

Butte Creek and Miller Creek had plenty of water running

Interestingly, we finished at 4:20 MDT
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Thumb Butte - Potts Creek to West Spruce, AZ 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking17.03 Miles 3,220 AEG
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Bruce put together this loop with a couple options. Only 3 hikers heading up Thumb Butte. Which seemed extremely light for 7:30 am on a very nice April Saturday morning.

Butte Creek was running light. Which apparently starts down in the neighborhood. Potts Creek Trail #327 zigs around following Butte Creek for a good stretch but no named place on topo that I could figure out for the name Potts. Fabulous hike through the pines.

Then on an FS road before what the FS declares as Sierra Prieta Trail #366. Not sure but looks like the intriguing detailed guide Preston wrote from a book reference is outdated or the book never had a firm grip on it.

The short FS designated #366 is pretty sweet. We took a break at my request. Lots of mtn bikers out riding this segment. Nearly all acknowledged us and kept us informed of pack traffic. No race #s so maybe practicing for the end of month Whiskey 50 Mountain Bike Race?

Sierra Prieta Overlook wasn't a refueling/aid station either. Graffiti central is covered up. After a short peek of the views we continued on FS373 just under a half mile.

Turned onto West Spruce Trail #264. Hiked the subtle rollercoaster with another granted break request. Then over to the base of West Spruce Mountain for lunch. The energy infused eagle darted up to the peak while I enjoyed a nice break. Several friendly ATV riders went through the gate below my perch.

Just 2 hikers on #264 heading back. Passing a large ant hill I almost gave the colony some of my water. As we all know ants don't have lungs. They may have wicked some up but figured I best not interfere. Lessons learned from a failed ant farm in '79... enough said.

The hike down Miller Creek proper was cool. A trail. Semi primitive to the surrounding network of Thumb Butte area trails. Passing numbered dispersed camping sites The_Angel_Eagle lent his phone to a camper that couldn't get a T-Mobile signal.

Finished out along old familiar favs to wrap up the outstanding mid sixties gift of temps throughout the hike.
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We wanted to hike in the Prescott area and looked at nice loop that @The_Eagle did on the Prescott Circle Trail area. Stated from Aspen Creek Trail #48 and headed south on this awesome smooth grade trail that weaves in and out of the pines. Part way down we ran into a guy looking for his dog he lost on the trail. We found the dog about 20 minutes later running the trail but at least going the right way. We headed back towards the TH but were able to hand off the pup to some other hikers heading back to the TH.

We continued on to East Copper Trail #260 junction and then up this section which is an old road. Just before reaching the Mount Francis road we stopped at East Copper Spring which had spring box full of clear water….definitely good source for filtering if needed. Then we made quick hike up Mount Francis and before heading down about 3 miles of road walking to the West Spruce Trail #264.

Next up Williams Peak which would be our lunch and beverage break. Nice views on top but there was some noticeable fire damage on the summit. After lunch we decided to off trail back down to the road and another ½ mile of dirt road walking to more trail.

Back on trail the Thumb Butte Bypass trail #236 heading towards Thumb Butte. From this point on we had many trail junctions but it makes for nice loop options on some really well maintained trails. Eventually we made it over to Thumb Butte which was closed to protect the Falcon nesting area. Took another break before back tracking to the Butte Connector trail #323.

Eventually we jumped on the Potts Creek Trail #327 and the Cold Springs Trail #393 heading towards Aspen TH. This entire section was another fantastic trail with smooth grades and great stands of Ponderosa forest. It made the hike back to the TH very enjoyable walk and definitely made me think of returning to explore the numerous trails in the Prescott Circle Trail system. Great hike and will be back!!

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Mt Francis - Williams Peak - Thumb Butte Loop, AZ 
Mt Francis - Williams Peak - Thumb Butte Loop, AZ
 
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1st trip
Aspen Creek #48 2nd Fav!
The hike started out with a babbling creek and towering happy pines. A mile out-n-back on this would suit 94%. We only hiked 1.5 miles of the 6 mi before heading off trail. It appears pines are with you for the top 3 miles of this gem.

Mt Francis Area
My legs are still screamin' tender from Gun Creek mafia style beatings so I wasn't thrilled about any offtrail. I put my health aside and tried to lighten up. We both got lucky, it was pretty easy to the towers around 7,100 ft. Great views. Didn't hit the official peak a smidgen higher.

West Spruce #264, Williams Peak
Roughly a 2.4 mi walk to West Spruce. Passed a couple dozen Whiskey Row Marathon runners. Most were crawling with running arm gestures. All were friendly and returned hellos!

We only hiked a little of West Spruce before following a fading road to Williams Peak just over 7,000 ft. Bruce had a final offtrail piece that didn't look good so he changed the loop a bit to accomodate my well being. If I've said it once I've said it a million times, nice guy!

Thumb Butte bypass #326
We followed FR373 about 2.4 mi then 0.25 mi on FR51 to the end of Thumb Butte bypass #326 nary a crowd has seen. Most loops in the South Butte Area would include this trail in part or whole. If you do not require bells-n-whistles like peaks, creeks nor a destination this is mighty fine tall pine hiking.

Garden Grove #392 1st Fav!
We hiked this top to bottom. Views of Granite Mountain are majestic. Meadowish in the middle with I'm guessing a seasonal creek that is a tributary to Miller Creek. Sold!

Interestingly I hiked this downhill seven years ago with @JimmyLyding and sorta met an idol
The day before I hiked with johnr1 to Miller Peak
The previous day was my first outta town hike with The_Eagle
Days earlier I hiked with Groth, SuperstitionGuy and the world famous AndreyP


Miller Creek #367
According to FS stelprd3811790.pdf we did not hike this trail. It's up for debate. Bruce included it. He claimed a peak last week we didn't summit either. I'm only correct 4% of the of the time and might have a 10% shot at this one so pardon the gloat.

Thumb Butte Trail #33 3rd Fav!
Wow my first hike on this iconic crowd pleaser. It has a 1960's National Park quality feel.

Potts Creek #327 & Cold Springs #393
Great perkless tall pine stolling.

Synopsis
It was nice to hike the mythical lure of dancing pines on a cool spring day most seek.
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Mt Francis - Williams Peak - Thumb Butte Loop, AZ 
Mt Francis - Williams Peak - Thumb Butte Loop, AZ
 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,760
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1st trip
After last weeks hike/injures, Joe asked me to put together Something "On Trail" and "No Water".

I drew up the Scottsdale Green Belt, he complained "Too Much Water".
So back to the drawing board.

I picked an area in Prescott, West and South of Thumb Butte and put together some choices.

There are tons of trails up here, most in the pines, most on friendly grades and well marked trails. Real Trails.

After making our way through the detours associated with the now in progress Whiskey Row Marathon, we started at the Aspen Creek Trailhead.

Aspen Creek #48
What a gem in the pines. We were only on it for 1.6 miles before starting our only off trail section. I want to hit the rest of this trail sometime.

Climb to Mt. Francis Area
.4 mile and 300' AEG off trail to get to an old Forrest Road climbing to the towers around the Mt Francis area. At 7100+ there are great 360 views.

Sierra Prieta Overlook, West Spruce #264, Williams Peak
FR373 took us over to the overlook. We passed scattered runners from the marathon. Great views of Copper Basin and Skull Valley. [ youtube video ]
Next an easy out and back up Williams Peak to take in the views.

Thumb Butte
Thumb Butte bypass #326, Garden Grove #392, Miller Creek #367 are all nice hiking trails taking us to the Thumb Butte area. Thumb Butte #33 climbs steeply to the saddle to the West of the Butte.

The remaining trails wind in and out of pines, juniper, oaks and creeks on gentle grades, back to where we parked.
Potts Creek #327 and Cold Springs #393 were the highlight of the remaining trails we traveled.

This hike, was almost the identical mileage to what we did last week, but took about half the time... and that was with 2 long breaks. This is the hike that was needed this week.

I was able to hike all new trails for me and only made Joe suffer on one short off trail section. Minimal whining too!

There are plenty of looping opportunities out here.
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Sierra Prieta Trifecta, AZ 
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I may have struck out yesterday in terms of a successful summit hike, but with today’s trifecta, [nicely executed in loop-fashion], I struck gold. Like the previous day, I was also in a time crunch and also in an area where I knew there could be potential issues with private property / access / rough dirt roads, yet the outcome was luckily very different. Aside from losing no more than 5 minutes after taking two turns down roads that didn’t pan out, I successfully navigated to one of the places I’d marked as a potential access point. And to top things off, I was able to drive a short distance passed where I anticipated having to park, [something that does not happen very often].

While most of the “trails” proved to be jeep roads, the endless opportunities to bushwhack made this a super fun adventure. After a combination of hiking up jeep roads & bushwhacking, I soon reached the SW ridge of Porter Mountain, the first of three summits on my list for this Sierra Parieta trifecta. While one can stick to the trail and save the bushwhacking for the very end, the extremely favorable terrain, [no brush + soft, pine-covered slopes], made this a fun one to leave the trail early and simply go barreling up the ridge. The views from the summit are just awesome, and I had a blast climbing the fun looking tree that is situated right by the highpoint. I wasn’t able to find a register or a survey marker though. At one point near the summit, I heard a loud, frightened cry and before I even had time to react [or get out of the way of almost get trampled], I stared in disbelief as a poor fawn that I inadvertently scared half to death leapt up from the patch of grass it had been sleeping in about two feet in front of me. I’ve never been that close to a deer or fawn before and it was pretty cool to see.

Next up was West Spruce Mountain. I bushwhacked off Porter, continuing along the SW ridge, and then angled NW when the ridge intersected with the one that would lead me to West Spruce. I could have taken trail for part of the way, but the bushwacking was so incredibly easy and fun that there was no need. I did encounter some patches of thick brush [Manzanita and something else that I don’t know the name of during the first part of the ascent up West Spruce], but it was the ‘feast or famine’ type of brush, with patches so thick that you’re simply not getting through, surrounded by patches of completely bald hillside. With a little patience, [something I usually don’t have much of when approaching a summit], it didn’t take long before I worked my way through / around the brushy patches and to the summit. As I gained elevation, I noticed there appeared to be some better options than the one(s) I selected… but anyone whose attempted to follow my bushwhacking routes can attest to the fact that I have a tendency to tackle brush head-on. :D The views from the highpoint of West Spruce are blocked by trees, but there are several viewpoints near the highpoint that offer awesome views. I was unable to find a register on West Spruce but right near the highpoint, I found a shiny, gold-colored survey marker.

Last but certainly not least was Sugarload Mountain. Coming off of West Spruce, my sense of direction got a bit turned, and I ended up bushwhacking about 180 degrees from the direction I intended, which added some extra mileage on the “trail” [dirt road]. Given that I wanted to hit double-digit mileage for the day, it work out in my favor… but it was definitely a ‘saved yet again by Route Scout!’ kind of moment when I realized my mistake. Although a couple miles away, reaching Sugarloaf was a breeze, given that the going was very fast on the jeep road, especially in combination with a loss of nearly 600’ over the first mile, from the 7,000’+ summit of West Spruce to a low point of around 6,450’. The summit of Sugarloaf has awesome views, with larger, more distant mountains to the front [North-ish] and the many ridgelines / peaks of other taller mountains in the Sierra Prietas to the back [South-ish]. Sugarloaf actually has two prominent points and if approaching from the South as I did, the taller one is reached first… although being covered in thick Manzanita and other brush, the second prominent point with low grass and some rocks to rest on was a lot more enjoyable.

After hitting up both summits of Sugarloaf, I proceeded to bushwhack to a fun-looking prominent point on its SW ridge that doesn’t even have a UN number on the topo. Nonetheless, it was tons of fun and gave me a bit more of the challenge I was looking for, having to blast through brush / figure out where the bald spots were in between. Next, I bushwacked down onto a jeep road that looped around by a mine I wanted to check out. Although the opening had been filled in, it was still really neat. In completing my loop on/around Sugarloaf, I then headed a short distance back toward the highpoint; [cuz in checking my route, I noticed that I failed to hit the higher contour mark by the highpoint]. This time, noticing a faint route though the sea of Manzanita, I ended up approaching from a different side. While I never found a summit register or survey marker, I got a good laugh at the small cairn that someone had constructed right smack in the middle of where the route “touches” the highpoint. Even with the faint route, the brush is so thick that I probably would’ve tripped over the cairn had I not been looking down in search of a register, survey marker, or some other sign signifying the highpoint.

For the remainder of the trip, I was on autopilot mode as I stayed on the trail [jeep road] for most of the way back. The several hundred foot climb back up toward West Spruce was a breeze compared to the death-march I endured the previous weekend during my Pinaleno trifecta. And at only ~9 miles RT [vs. 15+ miles the previous weekend], I was not running on empty this time with 4 liters of water, which allowed me to attack the uphill in my normal fashion.
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