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Jan 10 2026
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 Mesa, AZ
Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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DarthStillerTriplogs 883
Hiking13.41 Miles 3,185 AEG
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Wally and I got started around 6:15 from the Peralta TH in the dark. Just past the 1 mile mark we didn't need headlamps anymore and soon after the daylight was upon us. We got to Freemont Saddle before seeing other hikers, but I could a group catching up to us. Once we were on the other side of the saddle we were back in the shade and the hikers weren't on our heels anymore. Near Freemont Saddle there were several spots with ice on the trail, either from frozen puddles or the trickling water across the trail that froze.

The Peralta Trail is nearly half this hike, which I forgot. I've done this twice before and it's been at or over a decade between each time, so my memory fades with age. Along Peralta near the camps the hikers caught up with us again, but they were actually climbers, and soon got off the trail and headed up to summit Weaver's Needle. Saw a few more hikers along Peralta before making the turn onto LDT and heading up another hill.

At the junction of LDT and Terrapin we took lunch. The hike up Terrapin in this direction is mostly uphill, with a couple valleys to walk through. The first climb to Terrapin Pass is the worst, steep with loose rock. After that, the uphills are a shallow slope and solid footing, which I don't mind. Along this trail I heard a yell, which I think was the climbers as they summitted Weaver's Needle. At first I thought it might a bird or an animal, but when I looked at the summit, I spotted a sun reflection off of a camera or phone or something, so I knew the climbers were there. I called out to Wally and he spotted them too. I managed to get a couple decent shots of them for as far away as we were.

The downhill parts of the hike after Bluff Saddle were as bad the uphill parts, or worse. Part of getting older. None of it was that bad, it's just that uphill isn't as bad anymore for me, and downhill hurts the joints and feet. Talked to a hiker who passed us who had just flown in from Pittsburgh and was in for the weekend.

got back to the TH after 2:30, making for over 8 hours for the day. I remember this hike taking that long 13 years ago, it didn't take too much more time this many years later, which is good. Temps were very cool the entire time, which helped pay off the gamble I made to pack less water.
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Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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I had not hiked this loop in a while so when Chris told ne was hiking it I was in. The hike up Peralta to Fremont Saddle was the usual grind but it kept us warm in the early morning cool. There was some wind near the saddle but that came and went all day.
The trail is easy to follow but there is some overgrowth due to the wet fall. With the early start up Peralta we didn't see a lot other other hikers until we were back to the Cave trail. The temps stayed moderate all day and this made for a good workout.
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Superstitions Cave/Terrapin/Bluff Loop, AZ 
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update: I don't bother with recording GPX tracks, I just make waypoint notes as digital cairns, but here's a radiacode recording (incomplete, I forget to turn it on at times after breaks or whatever, not used to it): https://map.radiaverse.com/tracks/c6db6 ... -111.35492

An afternoon start to one night trip - mostly because we hadn't been backpacking in around two months vs just making it a dayhike. Drycamped off the cave trail with great views and enjoyed it quite a lot.

The cave trail is easy to follow once you hit the spur that comes up from Peralta - LOTS of people heading to the viewpoint. I assume that segment is on alltrails? Fainter before that with some routefinding needed up from the bluff trail (no sign) and some steep class 2 heading up to the ridge with the "cave" in it (more of an alcove). We ended up offroute a few times, but enjoyed our detours, stumbling across an alcove someone had camped in (modern) and finding some cairned game trails.

The trail E of weaver's needle is a strong single track use trail in places, non-existent in a few spots, somewhat cairned. We started off too far N and ended up taking a harder route in to the main saddle, but passed some nice pillars. Overall this and the cave trail were the most enjoyable areas, though some spots south of the Terrapin trail and Barks canyon looked neat too.

We enjoyed the mix of geology - sort of a bit of white canyon, JT, and the ancha rolled into one and will be back to poke around more later. Overall a more interesting overall area of the supes than the spots I was in before, which tended to have highlights but less overall interesting terrain.

Tons of water - the ridge of the cave trail had some trickles and small pools but wasn't as good as I thought it might be. We packed in a little extra water to keep things simple since packs were light. Dropping from Fremont Saddle a lot of side creeks were flowing, and obvious drainages had flowing water in them which often seemed a bit better quality than the main creeks.

A shorter but more interesting version of what I assume the "Big Weaver's Needle Loop" is. Someone doing that kept arguing with me that I needed to do the PCT lol.

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Jan 04 2026
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Robbers Roost - SuperstitionsPhoenix, AZ
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This is my second time on this loop, Gen's first time. We started at noon. Beautiful, sunny day. A lot of green, some wildflowers. The Carney Springs Trail was a nice climb with great views and more wildflowers. The Carney Falls was not flowing, and the creek at the top was minimal. We had a nice picnic at the top and met a gentleman who was camping up there for a few days. It was a peaceful stroll over to the Evil Bunny and Robber's Roost except for a cactus attack (always carry tweezers in the desert). We climbed down into Robber's Roost and hung out there for a minute. We then had an uneventful trek back along Peralta Trail. We saw 3 people total over the entire loop. Overall this is a fun loop with excellent views, especially in perfect weather.
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Peralta Trail #102Phoenix, AZ
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I took a stroll up Peralta trail to Piper Camp and up a side canyon a little way. I didn't see anyone until after Fremont saddle on the return. The vegetation is encroaching the trail west of the Needle but other than that it's open with the usual loose rocks and powered dirt.
It was cool in the shade but warm in the sun on the climbs. The pass over to Willow Spring wasn't as open as I hoped but the slopes north or south would be an option if I had more ambition. :lol: The forest service guys at the trailhead mentioned recent big horn sightings but none were seen.
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The amount of unnecessary tat discovered on route was disconcerting. We removed some but it would need another trip to clean and setup to a tolerable degree. Optimistically, the main bolt/ring for the west side rap that Dave & I added twenty years ago is holding up nicely, albeit not as level as I'd prefer but that doesn't warrant redoing (yet). :)
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Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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Arrived at Peralta a little later in the morning to a full parking lot. Had to park in one of the lower overflow parking areas.

Per usual, most were going up Peralta, so after my turn off on Bluff Springs, I ensured separation from the crowds.

A trail crew was doing some nice maintenance on the lower part of the climb.

Lots of water in Barks and on Terrapin. Passed a few day hikers/trail runners and a backpacking couple headed to Charlebois.

I had never taken the crosscut before. The turn off is well marked, and the route is pretty distinct—especially on the east side.

Great views of the Needle in the valley along the crosscut.

Coming down the west side, at what I’ll call “dog rock,” there’s a choice to head down the northern flank of the drainage, which I did. After a bit, I consulted the gps track I had downloaded and realized that route went down the southern flank. That said, the northern flank was pretty well traveled and marked.

The return on Peralta was pretty routine.

A few sprinkles here and there, but I avoided any real rain until after I was back on the road home.
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Weaver's Needle CrosscutPhoenix, AZ
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mike and i got going from peralta around 0915
he had never been on the crosscut trail so we did the loop starting up bluff springs trail
met a couple from canada and hiked with them until we turned off at terrapin
the crosscut trail was in good enough condition and easy to follow
some catclaw on the western half
we saw a total of five people on the entire hike
some erosion evident on all the trails
vegetation was actually green
fun day, nice to get out with mike
reminisced a bit about climbs on carney springs wall, barks canyon wall and weaver's needle that we had done together :)
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Peralta - Cave loop, AZ 
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Kelly and needed to squeeze in a hike on one of the few days we’re both in AZ this summer. Chumley came along to enhance the whining. Just about perfect weather for July in AZ. We got started around 0500. One other vehicle in the lot. Chumley caressed the hood of that truck and determined it had not been parked for very long. We headed up Peralta, happily in the shade. Humid, but moments of breeze felt great. Saw the one other hiker at Fremont Saddle.

From there, we headed out to the lone pine and took the obligatory pics. Then headed down Cave Trail. There are still a few vague spots in places, but overall it gets easier to follow every year. Temps stayed in the 70s the entire hike. This is a great little loop when there are no other people around. No vehicles besides mine in the lot when we finished. Surprisingly, only two vehicles at the Wave Cave parking when we left. Good to see both Kelly & Chumley this morning!
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Decided to take advantage of a cloudy morning with temps in the 70s. A July delight! :y:

Apparently exactly 1 out of ~5 million other Phoenix-area people agreed with that sentiment, and that was just fine with me.

Clouds were nice though Peralta is shaded anyway. Higher up a nice breeze helped knock down the moistitude in the air. Apparently it's been 15 years since I've done Cave Trail. I didn't remember any of it. Fun!

Good to see the ladies of the lands of potatoes and corn.
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linda and i had one day to hike together this summer :lol:
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set out up peralta right at 0500
temps in the 70s, nice breeze, some cloud cover
went out to the lone pine, then back on the cave trail
saw one guy at the saddle - nice to have such a popular trail to ourselves
nice to do this classic hike with linda and todd, in july no less
it was a tiny bit moist
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Perfect cinco de drinco weather out there established a mandatory outdoor assessment of conditions. A couple of cars in the lot, two hikers on their last breaths as we started out, and not a sign of another soul the rest of the day. Cloudiness, a few sprinkles, a cool breeze, and temps flirting with 60.

Yesterday it had rained hard here, with evident erosion from recent surface flows. Some puddles remained in all the favored locations.
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I got an early start at 5:40am and followed one hiker up to Fremont Saddle. The plan was to keep going and check out a pass on the topo map that crosses over to Willow Spring. The pass was full of grass so i opted out until another day. While I was there I stopped off at Piper Spring which is buried under dirt so not good unless you have a hose to siphon with. Peralta trail is in decent shape with lots of rocks but not overgrown. I saw one trail runner by Piper camp and then hiked back to Fremont Saddle while it was still cool. There were several hikers coming up Peralta trail while I was hiking down. Finished up about 9:20am. A nice morning before the heat wave.
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My buddy saw my pix from Sunday and decided he had to go too! We hiked up Peralta and out to the lone pine for lunch then came down Cave. He isn’t one for exposure so we took an alternate route down from the Fortress that goes around the north side from the slide to avoid the down-climb at the tub. Another excellent day in the Supes!!
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Solo trip up Peralta and down Cave Trail. Did some off-trail exploring along the way. Clouds made it nice for pix but also made it cool and breezy! The down-climb from the tub had more exposure than I remembered! But there is pure Supes beauty around every turn!!
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The last time I hiked to Robbers Roost was in 2021 with Warren and his dog Stella. We did it again today. This time we hiked up Peralta, then from Fremont Saddle back to Robbers Roost. After exploring Robbers Roost we hiked back to Fremont Saddle then down the Cave trail and Bluff Springs to the trailhead.
There was a little bit of trickling water here and there, along with some blooming hedgehogs and ocotillo.
Great weather. Fun hike.
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Black Top Mesa from Peralta, AZ 
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went out on peralta, then up and around black top mesa and back on terrapin and bluff springs. the entirety of bull pass is burnt as is most of the summit of black top mesa.

fantastic scenery the whole way. had great weather. didn't see anyone from fremont saddle until the parking lot. :)
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john proposed this combo after i refused to hike on south mountain again today :lol:
got going around 0745
forecast low was 35, temps were oddly warmer than that at 48 - windy though
i might have overdressed
up peralta to the saddle, down cave trail, up bluff spring, finishing on dutchman
this was a fun hike
hadn't been on cave trail in a couple years
nice to be back in the supes
we saw quite a few people along the way
thanks john, good suggestion :)
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Kelly wanted to get away from my beloved South Mountain. Blasphemy! I came up with a hike we hadn't done before. Turned out to be a couple miles longer than I thought it would be.
A little chilly starting out with the wind. Very nice once we got warmed up and in the direct sunlight.
We chatted with a few hikers/backpackers we came across.
Fun hike. Thanks Kelly! :)
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