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The amount of unnecessary tat discovered on route was disconcerting. We removed some but it would need another trip to clean and setup to a tolerable degree. Optimistically, the main bolt/ring for the west side rap that Dave & I added twenty years ago is holding up nicely, albeit not as level as I'd prefer but that doesn't warrant redoing (yet). :)
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Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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Arrived at Peralta a little later in the morning to a full parking lot. Had to park in one of the lower overflow parking areas.

Per usual, most were going up Peralta, so after my turn off on Bluff Springs, I ensured separation from the crowds.

A trail crew was doing some nice maintenance on the lower part of the climb.

Lots of water in Barks and on Terrapin. Passed a few day hikers/trail runners and a backpacking couple headed to Charlebois.

I had never taken the crosscut before. The turn off is well marked, and the route is pretty distinct—especially on the east side.

Great views of the Needle in the valley along the crosscut.

Coming down the west side, at what I’ll call “dog rock,” there’s a choice to head down the northern flank of the drainage, which I did. After a bit, I consulted the gps track I had downloaded and realized that route went down the southern flank. That said, the northern flank was pretty well traveled and marked.

The return on Peralta was pretty routine.

A few sprinkles here and there, but I avoided any real rain until after I was back on the road home.
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Weaver's Needle CrosscutPhoenix, AZ
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mike and i got going from peralta around 0915
he had never been on the crosscut trail so we did the loop starting up bluff springs trail
met a couple from canada and hiked with them until we turned off at terrapin
the crosscut trail was in good enough condition and easy to follow
some catclaw on the western half
we saw a total of five people on the entire hike
some erosion evident on all the trails
vegetation was actually green
fun day, nice to get out with mike
reminisced a bit about climbs on carney springs wall, barks canyon wall and weaver's needle that we had done together :)
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Peralta - Cave loop, AZ 
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Kelly and needed to squeeze in a hike on one of the few days we’re both in AZ this summer. Chumley came along to enhance the whining. Just about perfect weather for July in AZ. We got started around 0500. One other vehicle in the lot. Chumley caressed the hood of that truck and determined it had not been parked for very long. We headed up Peralta, happily in the shade. Humid, but moments of breeze felt great. Saw the one other hiker at Fremont Saddle.

From there, we headed out to the lone pine and took the obligatory pics. Then headed down Cave Trail. There are still a few vague spots in places, but overall it gets easier to follow every year. Temps stayed in the 70s the entire hike. This is a great little loop when there are no other people around. No vehicles besides mine in the lot when we finished. Surprisingly, only two vehicles at the Wave Cave parking when we left. Good to see both Kelly & Chumley this morning!
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Decided to take advantage of a cloudy morning with temps in the 70s. A July delight! :y:

Apparently exactly 1 out of ~5 million other Phoenix-area people agreed with that sentiment, and that was just fine with me.

Clouds were nice though Peralta is shaded anyway. Higher up a nice breeze helped knock down the moistitude in the air. Apparently it's been 15 years since I've done Cave Trail. I didn't remember any of it. Fun!

Good to see the ladies of the lands of potatoes and corn.
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Peralta - Cave loop, AZ 
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linda and i had one day to hike together this summer :lol:
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set out up peralta right at 0500
temps in the 70s, nice breeze, some cloud cover
went out to the lone pine, then back on the cave trail
saw one guy at the saddle - nice to have such a popular trail to ourselves
nice to do this classic hike with linda and todd, in july no less
it was a tiny bit moist
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Perfect cinco de drinco weather out there established a mandatory outdoor assessment of conditions. A couple of cars in the lot, two hikers on their last breaths as we started out, and not a sign of another soul the rest of the day. Cloudiness, a few sprinkles, a cool breeze, and temps flirting with 60.

Yesterday it had rained hard here, with evident erosion from recent surface flows. Some puddles remained in all the favored locations.
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I got an early start at 5:40am and followed one hiker up to Fremont Saddle. The plan was to keep going and check out a pass on the topo map that crosses over to Willow Spring. The pass was full of grass so i opted out until another day. While I was there I stopped off at Piper Spring which is buried under dirt so not good unless you have a hose to siphon with. Peralta trail is in decent shape with lots of rocks but not overgrown. I saw one trail runner by Piper camp and then hiked back to Fremont Saddle while it was still cool. There were several hikers coming up Peralta trail while I was hiking down. Finished up about 9:20am. A nice morning before the heat wave.
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My buddy saw my pix from Sunday and decided he had to go too! We hiked up Peralta and out to the lone pine for lunch then came down Cave. He isn’t one for exposure so we took an alternate route down from the Fortress that goes around the north side from the slide to avoid the down-climb at the tub. Another excellent day in the Supes!!
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Solo trip up Peralta and down Cave Trail. Did some off-trail exploring along the way. Clouds made it nice for pix but also made it cool and breezy! The down-climb from the tub had more exposure than I remembered! But there is pure Supes beauty around every turn!!
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The last time I hiked to Robbers Roost was in 2021 with Warren and his dog Stella. We did it again today. This time we hiked up Peralta, then from Fremont Saddle back to Robbers Roost. After exploring Robbers Roost we hiked back to Fremont Saddle then down the Cave trail and Bluff Springs to the trailhead.
There was a little bit of trickling water here and there, along with some blooming hedgehogs and ocotillo.
Great weather. Fun hike.
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Black Top Mesa from Peralta, AZ 
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went out on peralta, then up and around black top mesa and back on terrapin and bluff springs. the entirety of bull pass is burnt as is most of the summit of black top mesa.

fantastic scenery the whole way. had great weather. didn't see anyone from fremont saddle until the parking lot. :)
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john proposed this combo after i refused to hike on south mountain again today :lol:
got going around 0745
forecast low was 35, temps were oddly warmer than that at 48 - windy though
i might have overdressed
up peralta to the saddle, down cave trail, up bluff spring, finishing on dutchman
this was a fun hike
hadn't been on cave trail in a couple years
nice to be back in the supes
we saw quite a few people along the way
thanks john, good suggestion :)
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Kelly wanted to get away from my beloved South Mountain. Blasphemy! I came up with a hike we hadn't done before. Turned out to be a couple miles longer than I thought it would be.
A little chilly starting out with the wind. Very nice once we got warmed up and in the direct sunlight.
We chatted with a few hikers/backpackers we came across.
Fun hike. Thanks Kelly! :)
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Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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Oh no. I thought I had posted a triplog for this hike already, but I must have forgotten to hit save. I'll try to remember what I wrote the first time around.

Continuing the annual tradition of hiking around Weaver's Needle for a fourth year. It was cold in the morning at the start, especially when the wind was blowing. The fleece hoodie wasn't keeping me warm, but as soon as we started going uphill I was plenty warm. Took the loop counterclockwise again like last time. The start on Bluff Springs Trail is a bitch. The giant stair steps kill my knees. But it's easier to do it going up when the legs are fresh than down when the legs are tired. Terrapin Trail was overgrown in places and a machete or hedge trimmer would have come in handy. But it was passable. It warmed up nicely when we got to Terrapin and I shed the hoodie and traded the knit cap for the wide brim hat. At the north end of the loop shed the long sleeve shirt for the rest of the hike. It was perfect hiking weather.

Very pleasant hiking without running into other people. Saw very few people on most of the trail until we got to Peralta Pass where it was very crowded. Passed by burned area on Peralta trail where I guess there was a fire last year. Always sad to see. But it was a fairly limited area at least it seemed that way from the trail. Also this is the driest I've seen this trail. No water at all in most of the streams, and even in Barks Canyon the rocks were only a little wet in places. Didn't see any critters despite the trail being empty. Of course this trail is so rocky that it's hard to look anywhere but down without tripping and slipping, so there might have been all kinds of animals that I never saw.

All in all a great day of hiking.
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Weaver's Needle Loop from Peralta THPhoenix, AZ
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Another trip around the needle.

I met up with Jason at his house in Gold Canyon and we arrived at Peralta TH a little before 7am. There were already quite a few cars in the lot. We opted for a CCW loop and started up cardiac hill.

Bluff Springs Trail is in good shape. Steep as always at the start. The grass was pretty high along Barks Canyon area. We made to the Terrapin/Bluff Springs junction just as the sun was starting to kiss the ridges.

Terrapin is in pretty good shape. The typical catclaw before the saddle was there, but I’ve seen it in worse shape. The hike up to the saddle is an up and down activity, but the hike down to the Dutchman is the reason we did this CCW. That’s a steep section best done with gravity as your friend.

We made it to the Peralta/Dutchman junction and took a little break before the long trudge up to the Fremont Saddle. The 1 mile section between Terrapin and Peralta was one of the few sections in the Western Supes Jason hasn’t hiked. So, he crossed that off.

The hike up Peralta was the same non-stop up and up. The Siphon fire made it to parts of the lower Peralta Trail. You could see the ugly brown scars starting from the ridgeline going down. It was the usual “mosaic” burn pattern. Some places roasted beyond life, right next to green trees and live cacti. As we got close to the needle, the fire damage subsided. But, it did come back as we got near Piper Springs. It didn’t seem to cross the trail at any point. Once we made it to the Pinon Camp area, all signs of the fire stopped.

Jason hiked down to check out Piper Springs. He saw a trickle flowing. That was literally the only water on this entire loop. Areas that usually had some water were all bone-dry. I cannot recall seeing this place so dry in December, ever.

We made it to the Fremont saddle and saw 3-4 groups. Some out at the Lone Pine and some at the saddle. We came across some others going up and down from the saddle. I am wondering where all of the people that were parked at the TH were hiding as we saw nobody along the loop except for 1 solo hiker near the Peralta/Dutchman junction doing the same loop clockwise.

Always a treat to hit this one as the needle looks like a different formation from each side. The elevation is also broken up nicely which makes the +2800 ft aeg seem more manageable. I hope we get some rains soon. It is TOO dry out there.
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Beautiful day to be out hiking!! So glad to try a new trail! I've never been on crosscut, so decided to try it today. So glad to have read the @DarthStiller triplog saying that the official route is not accurate for the descent to Peralta. I used the mentioned route from @adilling, and it was perfect! Thank you! 😁 The crosscut trail was super easy to find and is well defined the entire length from terrapin to Peralta. Follow the cairns when descending to Peralta and also use @adilling route.

Parking lot was almost full on arrival to Peralta Trailhead. We headed out and saw no one on bluff spring, terrapin, or the crosscut. We saw our first people on Peralta right at the crosscut junction. We saw 2 more single hikers on Peralta before Fremont saddle. After a snack, we headed down on cave and saw 2 more people at devil's slide. They were having trouble finding a way up. They watched us come down, but after a while, they gave up and turned around. :(

Beautiful day for a hike if a bit hot for a December day! 😁😁😁
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A fantastic loop with gorgeous views of this area of the superstitions. Few other hikers encountered - a large bonus given how full the parking lot was and the number of vehicles in the "caravan" out Peralta Road on our way out.

It has been decades since I've hiked in the superstitions, and it's nice to be reacquainting myself with the area. Many years ago, I'd hiked the full loop around Weaver's Needle - the Crosscut makes for a shorter day, and gains some up close views of the rocky wonderland at the base of Weaver's Needle. Weaver's Crosscut was surprisingly easy to follow - we followed the obvious path, which deviated from the pre-downloaded route (I downloaded from another app/site). Cave Trail was harder to follow in some areas (especially post the Devil's Slide feature) where it traveled on areas of rock escarpments. I admit I would not have anticipated the Devil's Slide was a part of the route if not for my hiking partner, who had hiked the trail previously. If hiking on the weekend and looking to escape the traffic on Peralta, Cave was a welcome alternate route though certainly not for everyone given the need for route finding and navigating the Devil's Slide feature.
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With the standard wave of pseudo backpackers, powered by corporate apps empowering give-me, I had a 20+ mi loop to report on two lesser reported and one of the never-shared water sources. Then figured it was best to ease back into bigger hikes.

The road all the way to the Overflow / Horse Trailer / Bus lot is super smooth now.

Elected to go against the grain and do this hike clockwise as we always hit it CCW. The hike up to Fremont Saddle was better than anticipated, it usually seems to drag as the end of the hike heading down.

The only hiker we passed all day was on the flip side past Fremont. A female backpacker in flip-flops. She said it was warmer last night than the night before, after Bruce asked. Later saw two hikers in the distance and that was it all day.

Anticipated the Siphon burn heading down. Finally entered one pocket. Albeit burned, seemed kinna trivial surrounded by world-class geology that entertains the eye more than chaparral.

Piper was the only spring on the day to check out. The lid is jammed unless you're stronger or you BYO crowbar. It's still at least 3 to 4 ft deep as it has been for eons. Satisfied, but give-me without contributing back for the next guy idiots still bring out the second half of the fourth verse in Get in the Ring... Lol

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Bruce mentioned earlier(cried like a 2-year-old), and at this point, I'd have to agree with him... it's a touch warm for December 19th. Hopefully, Linda is safe from the wrath of the sun.

Dead grass along most of the hike but it is especially thick heading up Terrapin. If not throughout to Bluff Spring Trail.

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Great little loop without the drive. Still didn't care for the last mile and a half but the morning hike up to Fremont was a total winner.

Siphon Fire results on this hike were minimal. Hikes originating at First Water TH have never been high on my list. It'll green up in 2 years, then another inevitable grass fire will torch the lunatic fringe.

The parking lot was a fourth full when we finished but we didn't see the people. Wave Cave シ was packing 'em in.


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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Still 3 feet deep or more. Plenty of water for a large group. The metal lid is jammed so you only see a tiny amount. The stick test confirmed the same deep results as always.
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