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Ballantine Trail #283 - 24 members in 108 triplogs have rated this an average 3 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Nov 30 2025
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Essentially followed LJW's tough route from Jan 11 2022 except I hiked it CCW and didn't spur to the Ballantine Cabin (already been there many times). I did tack on the Pine Connect to the Pigeon Springs Road just to check it out for a possible future hike. As others have mentioned in previous TLs, fortunately the Bush Fire didn't burn everything. The trail up to Pine Mountain from Cline TH was better than expected with signs that some pruning has occurred. Also surprised that elk seem to like the area. Still some nice Ponderosa groves and everything was squishy and flowing still, including the neat Rock Tank. Ballantine Canyon goes on forever and really doesn't have a trail anymore. The Ballantine Connector seemed more maddening and monotonous because it's basically an expert motorcycle route. I completed quite a few FR 143 miles and determined that Michelob Ultra is the sissy beer of choice for dicky do side-by-siders. :lol: Route Scout stopped working just before mile twelve when it annoyingly informed me that no more points could be logged. Perhaps just going with the default settings isn't optimal for longer hikes. As usual, Allfails worked perfectly. :-k May have to re-up the subscription.
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Having hiked Ballantine in late April, we returned to see how the trail had fared after the heavy rains a few months back. Short and to the point... it did not do well.

Due to the resulting erosion and aggressive thorny overgrowth, it was not a very pleasant experience. Early on there was evidence someone had done recent VERY minor trimming of thorny brush. Where they stopped, we did more aggressive trimming, Tracey with the shears and I with a hand trimer.

There were numerous times when we genuinely had to stop and wander around to pick up the trail. In a few spots we actually followed dirt-bike tracks to get back on track.

RE: ATC/Dirt Bike
Early on I wasn't sure whether the ATC had traveled up or down, but eventually, based on skid marks it most likely traveled downhill. Would have been a LOT tougher going up, not that that would have stopped some determined dirt-bikers. While we've hiked to the Ballantine cabin a number of times on the designated ATC trail from Round Valley, this was the first time we ever encountered ATC tracks on this part of Ballantine... not a good sign.

Anyway, the farther we went the less we cared to continue as far as our usual turnaround/lunch spot, so instead, for something a bit different, we dropped down into Pine Creek and followed the creek-bed and/or cow paths until reconnecting with the trail closer to the highway.

Not the hike we planned on, but at least we got out of the house.
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Overnight camped about a 1/4 in from Cline TH parking. Stars were great, 2 falling stars. Overnight temps in the mid 40s but camping up above the valley it was about 10 degrees warmer. The road in was a little more rough than usual. 60s during the day up high. The trail up to Pine Mtn saddle was not what I expected. The first mile and a half or so from Cline TH is easy enough to follow but there are no longer any trail posts at the creek crossing near Cline TH where the trail begins. I cleared the opening up the hill and added a small cairn. About 1.5 miles in I ended up pulling out my clippers and cleared a good of trail and added more cairns. The trail crosses just upstream from the parking area not at the parking area. I lost a good 30 to 45 mins route finding before the saddle but is easier to follow now except a short section just past defunct Mtn Spring trough near the ravine, head uphill about 60 to 70 ft to regain the trail. Extra cool air greeted my pouring over the saddle at about 5500 ft where the trees start. Nice and green on top. Heard a tree loudly crack and fall down below during lunch. Deer, cat, bear sign found. Looked like a trickle of water in the creek bed flowing south due to the recent rains. The trail on top from the high point of trail to the north is difficult to see but the area is wide open. Route finding skills helpful, more cairns would be helpful to stay on course. 2 water troughs had clean water below about 5000 ft that appeared to come from and underground pipe that I am guessing get the water from an unmarked spring near Mtn Spring. Lots to explore here but had to get back to town to greet the kiddos trick and treating.
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Did not hike to the source just above the trail but the ravine is dry 150 ft below the spring. There is a diversion pipe that runs to the spring and appears to possibly end at a corral downstream of Cline TH. The pipe no longer runs to the trough below the spring. Unknown if spring is dry at source or not.
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As the fourth trail of our anniversary trip, we wanted something closer to Phoenix. Our goal was the cabin, but with it being 10:30am and near 100 degrees by the time we got on the trail, we decided to take it easy and ended up turning around ~2 miles in, just past the first narrow steep section of Ballantine.

According to another triplog on here, apparently the cabin burnt down, so I’m glad we didn’t try to push through to go see it. I saw it several years ago and it was a really interesting piece of history, especially with the old cooking stove inside. Too bad it’s gone, but I rather fire than the inevitable vandalism and trash that was already present get to the point of requiring it be torn down.

There is still quite a bit of scarring from the fire, but it’s somewhat interesting and surreal to see. The circle of life, sad and destructive as it may be. The damage from water runoff was actually worse than the fire itself. Many areas were deeply rutted or washed out. There’s also something particularly destructive about a burnt saguaro. You can easily imagine it collapsing in fast-motion. The way the fall to the ground and shatter is unlike any other type of tree damaged by fire. Sobering, considering how long they take to grow.

Of note for maintenance, the sign at the intersection with Ballantine is gone, with only the post remaining. I don’t know if it was vandalism or fire (it’s odd that only the sign would burn, not the post), but it needs to be replaced. If I lived locally, it would be a good weekend project to create a new one, but alas I don’t know the next time I’ll have the chance to get out there.
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While this trail isn't a favorite since the fires, we figured it was close by and we'd see how the landscape had changed in the past few years. Trail hadn't changed, but I don't recall ever seeing such a variety of wildflowers in the past. So my goal was to document each one. I may have missed a few, don't know the names of several, some photos are blurred as my camera had a difficult time focusing... kind of like me some days. It ended up being a beautiful hike.
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We hadn't hiked this to our usual lunch spot near Boulder Flat since late November 2022 so we were due for a repeat to see if/how much it has recovered since the last fire.

We began with the long climb up Trail #280 to get that out-of-the-way, following #283 around the mountain on the return trip.

My memory seems to be a bit foggy on this (yep, that old age thing) as I simply did not remember this many ups-and-downs... every time I thought we'd completed the last climb another one popped up. But no matter, with no pain to speak of, today was one of the good days. Even though the only breaks were to let Tracey catch up due to taking so many flower photos, I never felt out-of-breath or overly stressing either hips or knees on the steep rocky and many times loose ascents/descents. But then again, we barely hit 3,000' as opposed to the 6-7K elevations we had in the Chiricahuas.

We could not have asked for a better day for a hike, with the temp ranging from 64° to 70° along with gusty winds to keep from feeling too warm in the direct sun.

HR Avg/Max = 101/145

FYI: No, Tracey was not running back and forth constantly taking photos to rack up 10 miles, or the 3K+ AEG, she just used the default stats for the whole Ballantine Trail.
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Decided to head back the Ballantine area after a long absence, with the goal of getting to the cabin, and a stretch goal of doing the boulders loop. Turns out I'm really out of shape, because I was feeling pretty tired by the time I got to Boulder Flat, and figured there's no way I'd actually do the boulders. The fire hit some of the lower parts of the trail pretty hard, but it also did a pretty good job clearing away some of the thornier vegetation.

The catclaw got pretty bad right before the cabin - which it turns out had burned down in on of the recent fires. Bummer, I never got to see it! Poked around for a few minutes, then started back.

On the way down, I actually saw a group of a few hikers. That's a first for me on Ballantine Trail.
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You'll need to work for this summit, which is one of the best in the Mazzies, hands down. It isn't boring Ord, it's more difficult than both Catherine and Peeley. Not sure about Mazatzal Peak yet, as I'll hold my opinion until sometime next week. And there's no silly register at the top. Just Ladybugs and one giant bear turd. :-k The Pine Creek Loop and lower Ballantine Trails are 90% burnt. It'll be decades before this area returns to what it once was. The Pipeline Trail is becoming more obscure but still there's evidence of some badass fat tire motorcyclist utilizing it. No water anywhere, but that was expected this time of year. Just right of A-Frame (east of the southern prow) of Whorled Wall is the most direct route to the summit. It's loose in the first third but surprisingly solid through the upper two thirds. There's a huge dead Agave stalk marking the top out. Yeah, it'll eventually fall over but there are several more Agaves growing in the same place that may continue to mark the route.
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Went in 5 miles and turned around. I almost hiked this 2 weeks ago and I'm very glad I didn't due to the fire. 5 miles in it looked like the burn ended there but at my turnaround point it was still burnt at the trial. The last quarter mile before I turned around I lost the trail due to the burn. I could see further up where I stopped where the trail went. Past Boulder Flat the trail was much fainter and harder to follow.

The heat wasn't too bad, but I'm still very slow going uphill, even with moderate warmth. Once I stopped for lunch, it wasn't hot at all. By the time I got back to the car it was hot, but I was going downhill.

Saw a desert tortoise halfway up. He was dusty but still seemed healthy and moved pretty well. Interesting to see how this area looks so recently after a burn. It also seemed like the safest area to hike with the recent wildfires around and still get some elevation gain with a bit of relief from the lower valley heat.
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We decided to do the Pine Creek Loop (#280) along with some of the Ballantine Trail #283. Were the Ballantine drops south, we decided to follow the trail North up on for a bit. After going up the side of the mountain (about 200ft elevation gain), it drops back down into a valley and meets up with what is titled the Pipeline Trail on the map application I have. The Pipeline Trail appears to be more of a road. Walked up it a little and turned back.
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Trail is overgrowing again (slightly). Still too early for wildflowers.
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hit john up to hike ballantine trail to the cabin
hadn't been on this hike in nine years
we got going around 0700 or so
chilly temps, but fine going uphill
took the southern piece of pine creek loop, then ballantine to boulder flat
up and over the ridge toward the cabin
we had planned to add some mileage on pipeline trail but ended up on a motorcycle? trail that went northwest to pine creek
we turned around there since we didn't see any way to stay dry crossing the creek
took a little break at the cabin on the return
makes for a nice destination
back through the scenic boulder terrain, finishing on the other half of pine creek loop
i like this hike although i find some of the footing challenging
thanks for hiking and for driving john - good times :)
it's been fun revisiting some hikes i haven't done in a few years
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Kelly suggested hiking Ballentine to the cabin, and maybe adding on some extra with the Pipeline trail.
We got started to chilly temps, with some frost and ice in places. Once we got to the cabin it was nice and warm.
We hiked down to Pine Creek on a motorcycle trail instead of Pipeline. The creek was flowing good. Very scenic. In fact, the whole hike is scenic. Mountains, boulders, saguaros, and lots of running water.
Good day. Thanks Kelly. :)
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Just wanted a bit of a workout today without getting too cold or driving too far, and this seemed to fit the bill. Nice flat parking area immediately off of SR 87, so easily accessible to all, and a reasonably well-maintained trail nearly all the way to the cabin. All in all, a bigger workout than I was expecting, and more time consuming as well, largely due to the uphill portions of the trail. Plenty of cactus and great views on the way up, and plenty of running water. Agaves and Dudleya are found in fair quantities near the cabin.
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Early end to 2022, and for my customary Mazzy year-ender I went back to Boulder. Started the year by looping Pine Mountain, so there was some poetry in ending by looping its little brother. Followed in the 2014 footsteps of @BiFrost and sent their route to RS. Timed right, this route is one of the best ways to spend a day in Central AZ. Jumped on this one as the cold front finished up. Went CCW an hour and a half before sunrise.

Wrote about this in January, but Ballantine is largely no good past the corral. So it was creek bed until the climb out, where the trail picks up until the ridge. After that, got off track before Rock Tank. Gets easier to follow after as the trail heads into the pines toward the AZT connector.

The very top of the connector is gone, so I headed straight up to the road. There's a barbed wire fence the way I went, but it seemed easier than the alternatives. Clouds passed overhead and storms built to the west as I walked the road. Decided if the ridgeline wasn't covered in clouds by the time I got there, there was no way I would turn back. The sky was cloudy and darkening over everywhere but Boulder, so I took it as a sign and headed up the ridge.

It's a bushwhack around the boulders until the first saddle. Then the route enters the Bush Fire perimeter. The only burned pines are around the first saddle. The mountainside is a nice and easy walk under the green, green pines until the third saddle, where in years prior to 2020 the route became a significant bushwhack. Maybe the only good thing to come out of that fire is that the brushy sections of the Boulder Mountain ridgeline mostly burned. It was almost disappointingly easy. Still tough so many miles in. There's one notable scramble before the final climb to the summit. Other than that the terrain wasn't too bad, mostly piney or burned away.

Made the summit, and like in 2019 I only go to enjoy it for about a half hour before the rain clouds started to roll in. By the time I made Pipeline, the mountain and ridgeline were swallowed up. Took a break at the cabin, and proceeded to Ballantine and down. Awesome cloudy sunset made for a great finish.

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I'd passed the Ballantine Trailhead along Highway 87 many times without knowing much about what the trails had to offer, and we decided to give it a try today. The trailhead itself is fairly nondescript, but the geology to the east is fantastic. There were two other cars in the lot, and we were on the trail before 7AM.

There's a lot of highway noise along the first stretch heading north, but that fades as the trail turns to the east ~3/4 of a mile in. It's a steady climb from the beginning...not overly steep, but not many breaks from the consistent uphill. The boulder piles, balancing rocks, and windows are very impressive, with geology reminiscent of Wonderland of Rocks in Joshua Tree. I couldn't help but leave the trail once or twice to scramble around on some of the interesting formations.

Ballantine Cabin is about four miles in, and we were able to avoid the worst of the catclaw surrounding the cabin, so the approach wasn't too bad. The cabin is in pretty good shape aside from some open spots in the roof and the typical Arizona bullet holes. There's a picnic table inside and the usual collection of random food items that seem to get left behind in most of the old cabins. As we continued east, I found a random pot sherd along the trail, and that continued throughout the day...in total, I found close to 10 pieces at various points along the route.

The steady uphill climb continued along the loop, and the trail was easy to follow the vast majority of the way, though there were quite a few steeper sections with loose gravel. catclaw was common but not so thick that we couldn't go around the worst of it. The geology continued to impress throughout the loop. That was the good part...

The not so good part: it ended up being a slower, more "interesting" hike than anticipated. Around seven miles in, TboneKathy started feeling weak and lightheaded, so our pace slowed considerably and we took frequent breaks, especially on the steeper uphill stretches. We still had a lot of miles to cover, and I was concerned that if she didn't start feeling better, we could be headed for a rescue situation. Cell reception was probably out of the question that far out, and there were too many miles to cover to carry her all the way to the trailhead. We had plenty of food and water, and it wasn't especially hot, which helped.

We made slow progress around the loop, and during one of her breaks, I took a short detour off the trail to check out a stone corral. In places, the big rectangular enclosure looked a lot like native ruin walls. It's certainly more modern, though I did find a few pot sherds in the middle, which made me wonder. A little further along the southern portion of the loop, we passed two other small walls of stacked rock...they were too small to be corrals or dwellings, so I'm not sure what purpose they served.

We finally made it back to Ballantine Cabin, and TboneKathy did well pushing through the last four miles to make it out before dark despite not feeling well. It was a beautiful area, but the situation was concerning, and I spent much of the hike very thirsty, conserving a lot of my water in case I needed to leave some behind with TboneKathy to go get help.

Fortunately, it turned out okay...just a longer day and a more uncomfortable hike than expected, but it could have been a lot worse. We didn't see anyone on the trails all day, and there were a lot of wildflowers blooming in different colors throughout the route. Wildlife included some toads, a horned lizard, a deer, a light-colored snake, and plenty of birds. Seeing the cabin and the bonus pot sherds was interesting, and the benefit of the late finish was seeing the sunset on the drive home.
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The last time we were in the area 5 years ago, I noticed a very obvious track from the NE corner of our loop. When I got home, I traced out the loop using the satellite view. I had no idea how it would work out. It's been sitting in my files since then. With perfect weather forecasted, I through this out to a less than enthusiastic response.

We started at the Ballantine TH with one other car in the lot. That happened to be the Stiller mobile.

We ran into Chris at the 2.5 mile mark and hiked and chatted with him for a bit. He was on a different mission for the day, also on undocumented ground.

We made the turn off the Ballantine #283 on the unnamed western portion of the Ballantine Cabin Loop. We got off trail a bit following a wash and paid with our first blood letting of the day in thirsty virgin catclaw.

The Ballantine Cabin appears to have been cleaned up recently. Maybe in preparation for a VRBO guest?

We cashed some liquid and started our climb up the new (for us) trail. More than 80% of this trail is in great shape. I'm guessing the majority of the traffic on this loop are from motorcycles. But it does not see a lot of action. The nice part of the cycles going through there is that they leave a decent trail to follow and where there is catclaw, they've nicely removed a large portion of the claws from the catclaw.

Both loving the geology out there, we took way too many photos. There is a higher concentration of balanced rocks out there, than I've seen anywhere in the state. This loop adder really worked out quite well. Great views of Boulder Mountain to the north, snow covered Pine Mountain to the south and Red Mountain to the west and the other Red Mountain to the south.
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After finishing this new portion of the loop, we went up the western leg of the Ballantine Cabin Loop to make our way to the Ballantine Trail #283. This is the last time I'll try this one until it's been cleared. It was a total blood letting cluster chuck and is death by a thousand cuts.

The area around the corral on the Ballantine Trail looks totally different after the fire and subsequent flooding. The catclaw on the Ballantine down to where the western portion of the Ballantine Cabin Loop takes off, is also disappearing and prickly.

All said, I'd like to get out to this new loop portion again, but would defiantly bypass Upper Ballantine Trail and the eastern portion of the Ballantine Cabin Loop.

All washes were running on the day, perfect temps and Bluebird skies.
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Dichelostemma capitatum, Fairy Duster and a few poppies
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Midweek I was leaning towards hiking South Mountain since I haven't been there in a while. Then on Thursday after the clouds cleared from the previous day's rain, it revealed snow on Four Peaks and the ridgeline north of it. I knew I wanted to go up there. I looked over the HAZ map for planning and on the satellite photos I saw a singletrack from the cabin north of Boulder Flat head northwest down to FR1704. I traced it out with a track until I lost it, then I saw it was already traced out on OpenTopo. OpenTopo also showed another singletrack loop east of the cabin, but that looked quite a bit longer.

I was the first one at the Ballantine TH and headed up just as no headlamp was needed. About a half mile up I looked down and saw another car pulling in. Around the 2.5 to 3 mile mark, I heard someone make a calling noise. I turned to look and no one was visible. I turned around again and the exact same call was made. Still not visible. Someone was messing around. I turned and started walking again. The trail took a turn and I had an opportunity to go off trail and up a hill to see who it was before they knew I was off trail. Instead I turned around again since I hadn't heard a 3rd call and the hikers showed themselves. Soon enough I was able to see it was Joe and Bruce, which I kind of suspect it might be.

"Are you guys doing the 32 mile loop today?"
"What? Oh. No, just 18."
"Ah."

Bruce had also discovered the loop east of the cabin and he and Joe were on a similar mission as me, but different trails, nearby. Funny how that worked out. They quickly left me for dead and we were on our separate ways.

I forgot how far it is up to Boulder Flat and how much work it is. I was thinking I might be able to knock out the entire unmarked trail and head back uphill to the cabin. I soon figured this would too much in a day. My plan was then to get to 5 miles and possibly turn around, making a respectable 10 mile hike. At the 5 mile mark, I had already descended close to 1000' from the highpoint saddle above the cabin. and the unmarked trail was very steep and loose in spots. Hiking the entire trail would put me at the 7.5-8 mile mark. I decided to do that and then hike the Beeline back to Ballantine. I wasn't really thrilled about hiking the Beeline, but I was less thrilled at hiking back uphill another 1000' and then making it down Ballantine, which would take time. I was also enjoying hiking a new trail I've never done and hiking downhill after a 2000'+ climb in 4 miles.

The unmarked trail is basically used and probably made by dirt bikers. The tire treads are visible pretty much the entire way. At the Pine Creek crossing I saw 3 dirt bikers who had stopped to rest by the stream. Some sections had a deep groove similar to that made on equestrian trails. Other spots were very rocky. I've been on worse trails, but this one obviously didn't have hikers in mind.

The views on the unmarked trail and Ballantine were amazing all day. Just enough snow at the high point of my hike to say I hiked in snow that morning, but didn't get my feet cold and wet. Temps were cool and breezy all day, making less of a need for water. Blue skies and clear air, perfect weather all around. Fun to see Joe and Bruce who had the same train of thought I did.
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We headed out clockwise on Pine Creek Loop #280. Just under four trillion Desert Hyacinth in the first couple of miles. Chris was hiking in the area by chance so that was the second highlight of the day.

Super pleasant hike until just before the cabin where Bruce decided to cross a field of catclaw. Continued up to the NE corner of the classic Ballantine Cabin & Corral. An annual or goto by several but I just find it okay.

Now into the heart ( loop part ) of Ballantine Cabin Boulders Loop we found ourselves pointing out balancing boulders and whatnot often. Patchy snow and recent moisture helped in areas I imagine are less easy to keep traction when dry. The primary users are motorcycles, so deeply grooved stretches on steep grades are part of the package deal. Like many trails in the Bradshaws, the bonus side of that deal is catclaw/brush maintenance by cycles plowing through it.

There was some bad catclaw on the return along a portion of Ballantine Trail #283 and the crossover to the cabin.

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Bruce hemmed and hawed on this hike he drafted long ago. I twisted his arm and set him straight to give it a chance. Perfect weather for patchy snow. In rare fashion, I purposely traveled in the snow for traction. It was some of the best snowball snow I recall since I was probably 7 years old.
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Substantial Fairy Duster and Desert Hyacinth along Loop #280

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