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Lost - Gila loop, AZ 
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking7.65 Miles 1,635 AEG
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One of my usual workout loops. Got started around 0715. Very muggy. Very little breeze. Headed up Lost Ranch Mine, which has occasional shade. Most of the time, I didn’t know if I was crying from the misery, or if it was just sweat pouring down my face. Muddy in a few places.

Went up to Goat Hill, but the summit was swarmed by thousands of flying ant looking bugs. Turned around immediately. Continued east on National, then down Gila/Pyramid. Crossed paths with JJ near the top of Pyramid. Had a few patches of shade from clouds on the descent, which was quite nice.
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Gila - Bursera Canyon loop, AZ 
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking7.02 Miles 1,364 AEG
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Unfortunately, I’m back in AZ for a couple of weeks. I don’t like warm temps. I don’t like the high overhead angle of the sun. I don’t like cactus or thorns. I don’t like brown or dusty dirt. I don’t like arid climates. So I decided to go do a hike in all of those things.

Started around 0515 and headed west on Gila. Back east on National and Bursera. Finished up on Bursera Canyon. Only saw one other person. Heard some owls.
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Telegraph - Prospector Lasso Loop, AZ 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking9.36 Miles 2,712 AEG
Hiking9.36 Miles   4 Hrs   2 Mns   2.52 mph
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Pin cushion cacti are blooming in force.

Cool breezes on the ridges were incredible. Yards away from the ridges were sauna-esque.

Live ocotillo and bursera have responded vibrantly to recent rains. The dead ocotillo is now easily distinguishable. The trails here are covered with gravel-sized rock debris after every rain; the mountain is slowly eroding.

A few more out for the holiday, but not much more due to the temps. A young couple mountain biking up Pyramid was remarkable for the weather; they were two-thirds up. Nice pricey bikes, and she was in good spirits but lagging as he crawled ahead.
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Pin cushion cacti galore
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Hiking11.70 Miles 2,477 AEG
Hiking11.70 Miles   3 Hrs   30 Mns   3.39 mph
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Early start. Moist. Quite a bit of erosion on the National trail from recent storms. Some green starting to show! :)
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Aug 10 2025
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Telegraph - Bursera Holbert Lasso Loop, AZ 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking20.28 Miles 4,525 AEG
Hiking20.28 Miles   9 Hrs   23 Mns   2.44 mph
4,525 ft AEG   1 Hour   5 Mns Break
 
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Prehydrated: 38 oz
Carried: 174 oz (124 frozen)

When I arrived, a large group of about 16-24 people was getting ready to head out. I thought they were runners, later realized they were mixed ages and backgrounds. I started a half furlong behind them. I passed them and then never saw them again, concentrating on transitioning from Grillz to My Way. Guessing they turned on Desert Classic.

This was my first time on the west side of Bursera. More people out here than expected. Teenage girl, three guys (Kurt Sedler types), then two guys who could be star quarterbacks or excellent car salesmen. The geology is more reminiscent of Estrella/Piestewa.

This is one of those rare hikes where you're hiking away from looking at the sun or without staring at the sun on the drive, either.

The West end of Gila is undoubtedly loved by no one. It skirts the bajada, dipping in and out of a few ravines. Whereas the Bursera across the ravine has nicer alluvial geology to glide over.

The steepest grade on Prospector was in full sun, but I got a nice breeze.

Generally, I avoid Goat Hill, since it's illegal. The pre-planned hike was under 20 mi and under 5K. So I figured I'd hit a few little peaks along the way.

Two rangers at the bottom of the Ranger Trail with a funky couple behind me. Luckily, I'd recently tackled these nondescript multi-use trails scattered about the actual trail and sailed through.

I needed to rearrange a lot of water bottles and such, so I thought it'd be a good opportunity to tackle a sliver of Judith Tunell Interpretive Trail and utilize the Ramada for a few minutes. Whoo doggy, the rubberized grate bench in the shade was comfy. What are the chances two families came off-trail directly down the hill and stopped at the Ramada... lol C'est la vie, probably best to keep moving anyway.

Dec 23rd 2024, KingLeonidas posted a clue via RS where the temporary or new trail routes. It worked out great. Just be sure to verify which days are legal, cuz I'm no angel. From previous hikes, I had a lunch spot in mind. Only partially shady, but it worked out. I ate half of a dry WinCo ham and cheese on a pretzel hoagie, cuz there needs to be something other than water and electrolytes in the mix.

Realized I only had 36 oz of water left. So I nixed two side trips to push it over 5K in favor of life. Since it was later in the day vs recent previous trips, a few more shade options were opening up. I took a 6-minute break at one, but just wanted to finish the hike.

40 oz more water would have been better, but it all worked out.

Android stats in airplane mode start to finish, 2,983 points, used 25% battery.
iPhone 20.15 mi / 4483 AEG | 3,228 points, never in airplane mode, used 35% battery.
2 bug fixes for RS 7.2.4 in dev worked, perhaps out in a few days.
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Gila Trail - South MountainPhoenix, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking5.07 Miles 1,130 AEG
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My truck said it was 97 degrees at the trailhead at 0515. Denny was super excited to hike in the heat. At least it was breezy. Shade all the way up Gila/Pyramid. We had originally planned to turn around at the “top”, but opted to walk an extra half mile along the ridge before turning around. The breeze helped a lot. A few clouds Saw a handful of other hikers. Finished up around 0730. My truck said it was 102 on the drive back to my house. Good to see Denny again!
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Linda and I hit the trail around 5:15. Half hour before sunrise and 97 out. No sun then shade then clouds and a breeze. Linda set this up pretty well. :lol: Hadn't done 1000 aeg in awhile or hike with Linda so I was glad to get this one in! Trail was in the usual shape. Handful of hikers out and all seemed friendly.
Early start is the way to go!! :y: Thanks for the hike Linda! Like HAZ, you rock!
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking11.52 Miles 2,813 AEG
Hiking11.52 Miles   5 Hrs   14 Mns   2.43 mph
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It was supposed to be warmer today, but that fizzled out. Gusty winds for the first three miles.

It's easier to drink from water bottles, yet too cumbersome without a pack. So I ditched the water bladder and the hot hose.

Bursera was new for me. The whole southwest corner of South Mountain is better than I ever gave credit. It's a series of ridges, which are a bazillion times more exciting than anything flat.

Prehydrated 40 oz on the drive over, then consumed 107 out of 108 oz carried. When I did five laps on Piestewa several times in August, I would consume 24 to 48 oz between laps and carry 24 oz on each lap.

Stats are RS Android airplane mode start to finish because it's the only way to force the GPS radio. Carried in the upper back portion of my pack. Used 15% battery, 1697 points.
iPhone RS 11.43 mi / 2,785 AEG, Used 23% battery not in airplane mode, 1,829 points.
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Hiking9.20 Miles 2,272 AEG
Hiking9.20 Miles   3 Hrs   51 Mns   2.41 mph
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Above the road, just after 7am, I passed three high school guys. A few minutes later at the Gila junction was a naked native dude.
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Prospector - Holbert Loop, AZ 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking15.16 Miles 3,400 AEG
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The third ascent of this loop two days ago was rough. I knew why from an eight-lap blur on Camelback long ago, and wanted to make key adjustments.

Several out early, heading up, but nothing like that first week of back to school, which was oddly the busiest weekend of the year. A few clicky groups you won't see at Piestewa. Most of which would be dead if I saw them on the trail later on in the day.

The few impressive athletes were a runner and two mountain bikers in the outback.

There were no construction workers on the Holbert trailhead project, so I decided to hike through. Coming across three guys who could undoubtedly explain how to split an atom, wanted to know how to get up to Dobbins Lookout.

Overwhelmed by a hind thot of why on earth are you fine people wasting your time going to Dobbins mid-day in August. One guy was showing me his app, which I couldn't see without glasses or squinting in the sun.

Not to be rude, but the spring chickens couldn't have been parked too far away, and I needed to get moving, so I pointed right and went left.

I never encountered a stay out sign or any signage for that matter, but the old trail from the parking lot is gone. They wasted more time sourcing boulders that didn't belong than putting up a single sign for anyone coming across their trails that they haven't updated in eons on their website. ie: Pyramid is still on the static and interactive maps.

Disturbing wildlife in the middle of a city with a huge construction project yards away weighed heavily on my mind. A boulder hop from wherever the new trail was, I carried on.

In the old roundup area, I expected to see Team 4.0 giggling equations with their handy dandy app guiding them.

The old trail that went across and hooked up to the road by the water tower has been obscured. From the road up, it's the same old same old. Apparently, you hook into the road lower or further north now; I have no clue.

On the bright side, I felt much better than 2 days ago. Took a break at a semi-shady spot in a ravine crossing, thinking I might spot the trio, but they never surfaced.

My favorite part of National Trail was once again the last step, but the hike across didn't drag on today.

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Hiking15.55 Miles 3,561 AEG
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The faucet at the tables trailhead had a slow flow of screaming hot water perfect for tea or ramen.

The gate doors on the ranger trailhead restrooms appeared open from 20 yards out. The junior sized cattle tank had a light flow, clear and therapeutically warm.

Approaching Holbert, I realized it's under renovation. Construction workers galore and unaware if it was open for that or extreme advisory, I elected for an old pioneer route to bridge the gap. Minutes on the Holbert, a jogger passed me heading down, apparently it's open... Lol
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Hiking9.16 Miles 2,290 AEG
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Took a pack to evaluate differences. Gleaned good info.

With a later start I was surprised there was still a 40 yard stretch of shade crawling up Prospector.

The pack is certainly warmer but it's nice to have everything in place without constantly shifting weight. Used a third less water.
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Hiking11.12 Miles 2,702 AEG
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I prehydrated 32 oz on the way over. Carrying 84 oz of water might be the creative limit without a pack. What started as a one-handed juggling act felt like hauling an elephant nearing the pass.

Prospector Sans Ranch
A little earlier netted a solid 4 minutes of shade on everyone's favorite miracle mile.

Ranger
1 minute stretch of shade

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The dance floor was quiet, so I self-entertained. The always locked restrooms are overflowing out the gate door, creating the origin of a moat. Saw a coyote in the wash waiting for me to leave to get water.

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A ranger was twiddling his thumbs and left slowly when I popped outta the wash into the lot.
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Tried a ZenToes Gel Separator to keep the second piggy in place, worked better than anticipated. Not a cure, but hiking less was having worse effects.

8:53 am scraggly coyote. Seemed suspect at first, but he just happened to crest near me on a ridge portion and moved away.

Cessna mode to get device elevation stats.
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Hiking9.27 Miles 2,680 AEG
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Days ago when I first did this loop I envisioned calling it 9x9 Loop starting at 6:00 a.m.

That rainbow thought was an illusion...

Only gained 5 minutes. Think I'd have to carry a pack to move the needle.
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Hiking9.28 Miles 2,689 AEG
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78° to start in July. 2 to 4 hours earlier nets different encounters. These people weren't ready for neon hoodie boy. I stepped out of my truck, and the trophy wives scattered like an intrusion of cockroaches seeing light. Followed by several get out of our neighborhood, you freak looks from two men.

0.82mi, 6:35am Into the darkness of the canyon

I've never been a fan of the trail formerly known as Pyramid, but I've got to say, various reverse views coming across the ridge in the morning light were pretty freaking cool.

Heading down was the only encounter in the outback. An older man passed me, heading up, sweating buckets. Minutes later, it became apparent why when he ran down past me. Probably runs it daily, got an hour and a half more sleep.

Ode to a Dec 3rd notable who passed recently. Bruce oughta squeak out 487 on the Ozzy/76 fitness scale.

First time I heard one of the a-hole comments from Route Scout when I was off track, it was awesome! Think I slipped those in with the holiday nature calls back in February.

Finished with two good songs: Boy Named Sue and Boyz in the Hood. I was curious about what it meant to pull your car. Turns out it's the first lyric I've ever sung incorrectly. It's pull your card, which means to kill you. I need to find music with more kind lyrics than Joni Mitchell(for mom), Johnny Cash, and Eazy-E.

Took 24 + 36 oz of water. Ended with 2 oz.
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Hiking6.45 Miles 1,449 AEG
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Short loop with Jill this morning. Got started about 0510. West on Gila, up the end of Bursera. East on National, down Ruins. Warm, but a decent breeze at times.
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met john at pyramid at 0445
we started to park on the street, but the ranger showed up to open the gate before 0500
up pyramid/gila, national to goat hill, continued west then returned on gila
cool temps with the main ascent in the shade
nice breeze the entire hike
saw four hikers and a few mountain bikers
this is a nice combo
na beers after tasted good
thanks, john
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Nice loop we did a few months ago as well. Kelly set a good pace. Fun hike. Thanks Kelly! :)
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Early morning up/down Pyramid, turning around at my usual spot. Warm, not much breeze. Ran into @johnlp and chatted with him for a minute.
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