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Nov 19 2023
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Sugar N Cimeron, AZ 
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking17.91 Miles 4,647 AEG
Hiking17.91 Miles   9 Hrs   43 Mns   2.53 mph
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Lee and Todd, an awesome route! It essentially has everything, including a slimy wormhole. : wink : It started out spooky in the pitch dark fog with an owl hooting. I kept telling myself that the bears are hibernating now and won't be charging from the thick mist. I've been to the summit of White Mountain twice before, so the whiteout conditions weren't that much of a bummer, except for being absolutely soaked to the bone heading north across the ridgeline. My feet never dried out after that first summit. I seriously began to doubt the second peak plan after dropping off the summit to the west and encountering thick bushwhack, mucky cliffs and bear poop everywhere. It was impossible to see landmarks from inside the clouds, but by occasionally checking the GPX, I stayed on track until finally exiting the cloud deck to find myself in a bizarre landscape. Upper Rough Canyon is a neat, mostly unburnt niche with some more likely surprises. The views from Cimeron were stellar. Good water at the confluence of Fish and Rough Creeks, but surprisingly nothing significant after that on the way up Rogers Canyon to the Trough. Most definitely, one of the best Supes hikes I've done. :D
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Nov 14 2023
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Rough CanyonGlobe, AZ
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wallyfrackTriplogs 1,691
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We backpacked down to the campsite near the junction of Rogers Canyon & Fish Creek to explore a little. Most of the exploring was up Rough Canyon and around the area. The old Frog Tanks trail is overgrown and tough to follow. Seems most must hike the creek when in the area. The short section of Fish Creek between Rough Canyon and Frog Tanks was very nice with water flowing and a cool breeze. It would be difficult to Frog Tanks trail end to end. A GPS track and some clippers would be needed. The tree fall would be a work around. Not many critters out but I did see an owl in the lower part of Rogers Canyon. The monster agave is still there but a bit more work to get to. The temps were nice in the shade but warm in the sun and didn't get cold at night. Water was found down stream in Fish Creek. It rained for an hour early Thursday morning but stopped before the humid hike out.
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 Gilbert AZ
White Mtn 6100 - Rough Cyn - Rogers Cyn, AZ 
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I decided to crash Joe and Bruce's saturday hike this week. I met up with Bruce around 6:00 AM near Country Club and US-60. Joe ended up having vehicle troubles and had to bail last minute.

We started around 7:30 AM at Rogers Trough, and cruised up to Reavis Saddle. We ran into an AZT thru hiker on the way up and had a quick chat. We turned off Reavis Ranch 109 South at the appropriate spot and started heading up a drainage towards White Mountain. Nice and easy for the first little bit, then our route had us leaving the drainage, and the fight with manzanita/oak hell began.

On the summit of White Mountain we took a break and enjoyed the views. Bruce signed us in on the summit log. It was a little cloudy but the view on top was still pretty amazing, I can only imagine what it looks like on a crisp, clear day. I will be back again for this one. Getting to this point wasn't too bad, it felt like we were making pretty good time. I looked at RS, saw we had "only" 10 miles left, and told Bruce something along the lines of: "I think we will make it back in about 5 hours." Wrong!

We left the summit and headed down the mountain towards Rough Canyon. The brush was much more forgiving on this side of the mountain, but the slopes were loose rocks instead. I wasn't exactly sure what to expect with Rough Canyon, I just knew it was off trail and the name made it sound a little intimidating. The canopy of pines and sycamores at the start of the canyon was a cool little spot. Plenty of nice spots to camp that look like they've never been touched.

Eventually the canyon walls start to rise and you find yourself in the creek bed more often than not. Then a series of falls start and you'll be choosing whether to scramble down or skirt up and around the falls. The going got really slow. Along the way, Bruce decided to take a quick dunk in one of the pools to cool off, and about a quarter mile later I decided to do it as well. :) I kept looking at RS after what felt like a mile and usually found we had only gone about a quarter of a mile... So much for that 5 hour estimate. :lol:

By the time we reached Frog Tanks I was pretty sore and I was starting to bonk. Rough Canyon used some muscles I don't use very often, and for much longer than I usually use them. We enjoyed a break at the intersection of Rough Canyon and Rogers Canyon before starting the ascent back up Rogers to the TH. It felt like it was going to be a slog, but I was just happy to be back on a trail by this point. One foot in front of the other is all that was required now. :)

We ran into 2 groups of backpackers at Angel Basin, and then another group further up the trail who were headlighting into Angel Basin. I finally caught a good second wind just before the Rogers Canyon/Reavis Ranch JCT, but I still finished feeling pretty sore. We finished around 8:20 PM.

If you just look at mileage and AEG this hike doesn't seem too difficult, but this is the hardest 17 miles and 4000ft I've worked for in a long time. I was telling Bruce on the way out I wasn't sure if I was going to come back again for Rough Canyon, but after looking at pictures of this canyon in the fall, and the ruins (we didn't look too hard), I think I'll have to come back again sometime.

Great hike with great company!
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 Phoenix, AZ
Rough CanyonGlobe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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Oregon_HikerTriplogs 626
Canyoneering8.50 Miles 1,475 AEG
Canyoneering8.50 Miles   8 Hrs   40 Mns   0.98 mph
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It was my fifth day camped at Reavis Ranch and after two restful days taking short hikes around the ranch area I decided to do something a little more adventurous. Upper Rough Canyon had intrigued me while planning for this 6 day trip but the routes others had taken to get there seemed a little too much for me both in duration and exposure. So I had taken a look at Google Earth and plotted a "short cut" that headed mostly due west from the Reavis Ranch 109 South trail about 2 trail miles south of the ranch. Although I had been warned that this route was "Manzanita Hell" there appeared to be a mostly clear route into the upper part of the canyon. So I decided to go check out my GE planning track to see if it was a viable route with no intention of venturing down Rough Canyon into the rugged narrows or looking for the cliff dwellings others had found there (yeh, right!).

It was a beautiful morning, I was feeling great and was setting a good pace up 109 South when I encountered two young gentlemen out on a morning stroll from their camp. That encounter developed into a lengthy delay as we exchanged stories about the area. Oh well, I wasn't in a hurry since I was only going to "check out" the off trail route. The off trail section of my planning track turned out to be accurate in leading me on an easy path through clearings and animal trails all the way into the park like setting of upper Rough Canyon. It also followed what appeared to be an old road bed as it descended from the saddle dividing Rough Canyon from Reavis valley. This old road bed even appeared to descend along my track into upper Rough canyon and follow the creek for a short distance. I have since found out from the guy who's camera I found that there were some fire breaks bulldozed in this area during a fire in the 1960s which probably explain the road like features I saw.

My track followed a small ridge that protrudes westward into upper Rough Canyon. At the end of this ridge where it starts to drop down into the canyon bottom there were the remains of an Indian ruin - lots of rock piles hidden in Manzanita thickets. While poking around in the ruins I found an old digital camera laying on the ground. After arriving home I was able to recover 143 pictures from the memory stick and with the help of HAZer wallyfrack was able to identify and get in touch with the owner. see forum http://hikearizona.com...

The area along the creek where I descended into upper Rough Canyon was a park like setting with towering Ponderosa pines. Despite the all-night rain just two days ago the creek bed was dry. I would see a few isolated small pools of water further down canyon. At this point the upper Rough Cny cliff dwellings were only about a half mile away so I decided to go for it even though my leisurely pace had used up a lot of daylight hours. Probably not the best decision. The canyon narrowed between steep side walls with several poor offs and many large boulders littering the creek bottom. I hate descending pour offs and wasted a lot of time going high up on the hill sides to bypass them. As I approached what appeared to be a smaller pour off I started to climb an animal trail up the creek bank to bypass this section. Waiting at the top in a gap between boulders was a black tail all coiled and ready to strike. He didn't give his warning buzz until I was only a few feet outside his striking zone. He would not leave his position blocking my path so I retreated to the creek bottom and started down through the pour off which turned out to not be a pour off and was a much easier route. Sometimes a rattlesnake encounter can be a good thing. This encounter plus the sudden realization that my Spot emergency locator probably would not be able to contact a communication satellite from down in the canyon scared the hell out of me but I kept going.

I finally found one of the cliff dwellings at least an hour past what would have been a reasonable turn around time. I took a few quick photos and knew there must be another dwelling near by but just didn't want to take the time looking for it. I didn't want to take the lengthy pour off bypasses on the way back so I followed a track from FOTG from an earlier visit when he had his dogs with him. Despite the poor GPS reception down in this deep narrow canyon his track was still reliable and led me to much shorter bypasses around the poor offs. As I headed back up the canyon bottom I spotted fragments of blue tarp on a shelf above the creek bed. That was probably the location where the injured hiker had waited a week for rescue (see hike description for more details). Although trying to make a hasty retreat up the canyon it still took me an hour and 15 minutes to go about 0.5 miles in this rough section. After that it was a fairly quick hike backtracking to the Reavis Trail and I was able to make it back to camp before dark.
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May 23 2015
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 Tempe, AZ
Rough Canyon via Woodbury, AZ 
Rough Canyon via Woodbury, AZ
 
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Backpack18.21 Miles 3,763 AEG
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9L and I both wanted to check out Rough Canyon and Memorial weekend was a perfect time for a backpack. Frog Tanks is still one of my favorite trails in the Superstitions!

We only got about 1/3 of the way up through Rough Canyon because we still had to go back to camp and hike out. :)
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Rough Canyon via Woodbury, AZ 
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Claire and I wanted to head out for an overnighter for Memorial Day Weekend. The weather in Phoenix was too good to be true so we started looking relatively close to home and settled on the Superstitions. We were out there two months ago and found a sweet campsite near Frog Tanks and Rough Canyon. Our plan was to start at the Woodbury Trailhead and hike over Tortilla Pass and on to camp. We would explore up Rough Canyon on the second day and then hike out later that day.

We left Tempe around mid-morning on Saturday and drove to the Woodbury Trailhead. We arrived to a vacant parking area and started hiking soon after. It was sunny and warm but comfortable. We made steady progress as we climbed towards Tortilla Pass. I wondered about our water situation along the Frog Tanks Trail and felt better as I saw a few small pools about a mile into our hike. I figured if there is water here there will be water in Frog Tanks. We continued hiking and topped out after Tortilla Pass and then dropped down into Angels Basin. We found the area completely deserted and found several good pools of water in the creek. We’ll have no water issues on this overnighter.

We took a short lunch near Angels Basin and then took our time hiking down the Frog Tanks Trail. This area is really beautiful and has lots of shade from all the trees and foliage. There was lots of water and it flowed in a few places. We continued on and soon reached our campsite near the junction of Frog Tanks and Fish Creek. It’s a fantastic site situated next to the creek and has plenty of shade and a fire ring. The creek was dry right next to us but water was available about two minutes down canyon. We settled in and got camp set up and then gathered some firewood. It was late in the day and we decided to go for a short walk up Fish Creek. The going was very slow and rugged. There was lots of water through here and the scenery is amazing! From there we returned to camp and settled in for the night. We enjoyed a fire and had Pad Thai (Backpackers Pantry) for dinner.

The next morning started slowly. We woke and had coffee and filtered some water. We set out for Rough Canyon around 9:30am and our going was very slow right from the start. The creek bed is loaded with rocks and boulders of all sizes. Just reaching the start of Rough Canyon a quarter mile away felt like a small victory. We entered Rough and proceeded up canyon at a very slow pace. The canyon is extremely rugged and we had to search high and low for the best route possible. We had to climb up and over boulders or had to entirely leave the creek bed and fight our way through heavy foliage to reach the next section. Our goal was the ruins but it became obvious we weren’t going to have enough time or energy for the endeavor. We planned on hiking back to the jeep later in the afternoon so we found a nice spot to break and then turned around and headed back for camp. We learned going down Rough Canyon is much easier. It also helped knowing the best route from our hike up.

Once back at camp we took an extended break and ate lunch and filtered more water. We then packed up and started the hike out around 1:30pm. We took our time on the return and took a break at Angels Basin where we filtered more water and rested. From there we made the hike out and returned to the jeep.

This was a really fun overnighter and I wish we had more time and energy for Rough Canyon. The going in there is extremely rugged and fun. We definitely plan on going back in the fall after the weather cools off. And we didn’t see another person in the Supes on this trip. The solitude was a real treat especially for a holiday weekend.
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Apr 13 2014
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Sugar N Cimeron, AZ 
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chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Hiking17.24 Miles 4,796 AEG
Hiking17.24 Miles   12 Hrs   18 Mns   1.50 mph
4,796 ft AEG      47 Mns Break
 
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Somehow, neither Lee nor I was carrying today. Good thing we both still have faith in humanity!

Lee promised me an 8-mile hike and it sounded nice. So in the dark 13 hours later, pushing 20 miles and 5,000aeg, with over 8 miles of OFF-TRAIL, we managed to hit two new peaks for me, including Cimeron, which is a great destination that I would recommend to anybody.

The off-trail was slow, especially in Rough Canyon, as we were both pretty fatigued at that point. It was very welcoming to reach the trail again, even though we had such a long way to get back and knew that darkness would fall. At least there was a full moon.

Of course, along the way, Lee had to take a few detours to find piles of rocks. I had established that if they weren't still assembled and held together with mortar, I would have no interest. Luckily he delivered. There's some cool stuff out there!

And to think the Coliseum was built only like 1,000 years earlier than any of this stuff!

Saw a huge black-tail below the Cimeron summit. Also a nice turtle in the water in Rough Canyon, who didn't really like me picking him up, and a great horned owl in Rogers Canyon. My photo was a little sub-par by Outdoor Lover standards, so I didn't even bother posting it.

Great day out there. A little warm in the afternoon sun, but otherwise damn near perfect.

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Couldn't discern the spring specifically because there is plenty of water in the canyon. Pools abound, and light flow occurs periodically. Some underground dry areas also exist.

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Plenty of pools in Rogers right now. Some occasional light flow. Should easily last another month with no further precipitation.

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Plenty of pools in Rogers, from just below Rogers TH, all the way to Rough Canyon. Some dry areas, but probably 50% flowing. There will be pools here for a while.

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Couldn't discern spring specifically. Entire canyon has pools of water and occasional light flow.

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Tons of deep pools. Many with more than just a trickle. No shortage of water, certainly will last at least into May 2014, and likely into June in some places, even if it doesn't rain again.
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Rough Canyon via Reavis Ranch, AZ 
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This hike started on Friday night at 8:30 P.M. from the Reavis Ranch Trail Head. Located North of Reavis Ranch trail #109. The hike in was very pleasant, a nice cool night with nearly 50% illumination from the moon. I had no difficulties following Reavis Ranch Trail in the dark, it is a former road after all. However, stick with your comfort levels when it comes to hiking at night. The hike into Reavis Ranch where I camped was 10.2 miles, and I completed it in four hours on the dot, with taking one dedicated break at Windy Pass to feed dogs, and eat a couple of snacks. I spent a couple hours getting settled in and going over route with my friend who I met at Reavis and then hit the rack just after 3 in the morning to catch a few hours of sleep before big day. It should be noted that the underlying goal of hike was to find a set or ruins above Rough Canyon, that a fellow hikearizona.com member had given me some details about.

Day two started from Reavis Ranch. After going over the map in morning we agreed that even though we had a solid route to ruins from White Mountain, we would try entering Rough Canyon from the Plow Saddle Spring area and Frog Tanks trail. This would prove to be our mistake, as we did not find the ruins, due to an inability to get to the angle needed to see the cave which housed the ruins. The cave was high above the canyon floor, and impossible to see from below, we accepted that shortly after reaching Rough Canyon.

However, the day was not lost, as I got to draw another line on my map through a very rugged and remote area of the Superstition Wilderness Area. Our hike from Reavis Ranch consisted of Reavis Ranch Trail 109 north to the intersection with Plow Saddle Trail and headed West 1.5 miles to Plow Saddle Spring. From Plow Saddle Spring we followed Frog Tanks until we found the best spot to start heading South off of Frog Tanks Trail and towards the ridge line we would be using to make our way off-trail to Rough Canyon. From here on out remember this is just "a" way, its certainly probably not "the" way to do Rough Canyon. We headed south off Frog Tanks Trail into Willow Creek, from there we headed west a short distance and immediately started bushwhacking our way up hill-top 4922, which would mark the beginning of the ridge line we followed all the way to Rough Canyon. Once through bushwhacking, the ridgeline did not present an overly difficult hike, there were some very well defined bear trails and perhaps old cattle/horse trails. But there were certainly some over-grown spots as well, we stayed generally to the South side of ridge and seemed to do alright. We followed the ridgeline on a southwesterly course until the final major hill (5384). The views from the ridgeline were expansive with Four Peaks to the North, and even Pinto Mine to the east. We stayed east of hilltop 5384 and made our decent into Rough Canyon. We could tell right away that we were not at the proper place for viewing ruins, and to get to other side of Rough Canyon would have taken some time, so we chose to just head down Rough Canyon to Frog Tanks Trail and hope that we might catch an indicator or possible glimpse of potential areas for ruins, but no luck. We picked up a really nice trail that took us right down into an almost out of place pine forest. There were some very tall strands of pine, it wasn't too brushy and there were signs of bear everywhere, scat, tracks, etc. it must be their hangout. Rough Canyon was your typical off-trail Supers Canyon, probably a little bit worse than Trap Canyon and similar to Fish Creek and Tortilla in spots. However, it was slow going, expect a typical canyoneering speed of about one plus miles an hour, yet much slower for some stretches. I did Rough Canyon with my dogs, but would not recommend it to anyone. The canyon offered several dangerous areas for humans and dogs alike. Likewise, this loop ended just a few tenths of a mile shorter than 18 miles, so your pooch is going to have to be in really good shape. The canyon had significant water compared to how dry it was everywhere else. Therefore,if this hike is done during a wet winter, the water may prove to be too much of an obstacle keep that in mind. There will certainly be some deep pools and deep wades.

Rough Canyon ends at Rogers Canyon which is also where the Frog Tanks trail crosses. If trying to pinpoint Rough Canyon from Frog Tanks its entranced is marked by a noticeable rock spire and natural arch. I am not going to lie it was around 8:30 P.M. at this point and we spent nearly 20 minutes looking for the actual Frog Tanks trail, it was a little grown over and where it crossed Rough Canyon it had been eroded. It felt great to be through Rough Canyon, but we were nowhere near finished we still had Frog Tanks to navigate at night, oh and we also had to regain the nearly 1500 feet in elevation we lost. Other than Blanco getting sprayed by a skunk the hike back to Reavis was pretty standard, we took some very liberal breaks, and showed up to camp after midnight. I inhaled a mountain house and went to bed, a little disappointed about not getting to ruins, but pleased with the completion of a challenging day. Blanco meanwhile earned himself a spot outside the tent on this night, due to his run in with the skunk along Frog Tanks Trail.

The next morning we slept in a little and very lazily made our way back to Reavis TH. Sunny enough on the hike out, that the shade was appreciated at times, however, pretty nice hiking temps overall made nicer by strong breeze. My body was aching a little by the time I reached car, and dogs were certainly beat. For good reason though, as the final mileage for hike tallied 38.3. Anyone who has spent time in Supers knows that is a hefty weekend.
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Apr 18 2012
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Rough CanyonGlobe, AZ
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Decided to come back and do this clockwise this time. I had a few places I wanted to explore from last time. Planned on doing this Monday when it was cooler, but didn't get much sleep which has been the norm for the last 3 weeks. :-k :) Anyway, today started about the same way, but I got to the trail head at 6:30 finished the coffee and headed on my merry way. Should have drank it all on the way so I would have been awake enough to bring my lunch and not accidently deleted my way points as I was resetting the GPS. Planned on visiting the ruins again, but instead took a 1 hour nap on the rock below without hearing a single baby cry. :y: It was pretty hot in the canyon and I climbed up to a couple spots with no luck. Unfortunately, the spot I really wanted to check out didn't seem to be visible with the vegetation compared to last year and that was one of the way points I'll have to reload. Had a good time, but because I thought in the interest of time I would skip 6100 I took a different route. I wish I would have taken the exact route I took last year with Kyle the heartless. Bush wacking from Rough Canyon to Reavis trail sucked! I'm not sure if it was the heat, lack of views (in 10 foot manzanita forest), just going up the canyon rather than down, but I enjoyed last years trip more. (Except for the quiet nap!) I have six inch bruises starting at my ankles on both shins. I even wore long pants! :o I was startled in the canyon, by a pretty angry rattler. I thought it was bird mimicking, because I couldn't see it in the shade with the sunlight through the trees. When I finally saw her she was coiled and about six inches from my leg. I reached up grabbled a branch and brought it down between us and ended up having to break a branch and encourage her to move as she was blocking the only way I could go. She struck twice at the branch while I was moving her. I've never had any issues with snakes before, just bees :sl:
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Apr 11 2011
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Rough CanyonGlobe, AZ
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Canyoneering17.20 Miles 3,396 AEG
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Most time spent hiking in a day for me. To follow up last weeks longest distance I've hiked in a day. Beware of that Tough Boots guy he's a hiking slave driver. But that's just what it takes to crack the top 10 on that pesky little annual data thing that I always bump when trying to access the site from my touchscreen phone which tells me that even dogs have more miles than me after my extended work training. :worthy: :sl:
On a more serious side, this is as tough as Kyle described in his triplog. The snow compounded the difficulty. I didn't do my research as well as I could have and did not realize how slow going it would be. In fairness Kyle was a great sport as I know jumping from rock to rock is not his favorite type of hiking and there was times on this hike I was starting to feel the same way. Now I realize that route finding in the dark on trails I've never been on that insist on crossing the stream over and over after doing one of my most difficult canyon hikes is my least favorite. :)
I swore I would never do this loop again, which may be true. I would like to explore this canyon again maybe as a multi day as I just did not have enough time to see everything I wanted to see. I second the views from White Mountain. The views from the peak were spectacular and were what I thought might be at the top of Mound Mountain when I tried to talk him into climbing that last week.
I was wowed by the clouds and wish my pictures did justice to some of the multi-colored steaks of cloud formations we saw. I'm not sure what creates these and I wish my camera would have captured them better. These alone would have been worth the hike. Then White Mountain views and finally the ruins. Small, but interesting. I can not recall keyhole doorways anywhere around here except Walnut Canyon in Flastaff which was the first interesting feature of these. It was obvious by the shovel and pan by one of the ruins that they have both been visited and probably lived in more recently. The other interesting feature was the pictographs inside that seemed to then be covered by the soot of fires making them a sheeny black. I actually saw some similar pictographs at Palatki last week.
All in all, my memory of the difficult parts and the not so fun parts are fading fast in comparison to the views and other positives I found from this hike. The company was great (I'm pretty sure a sense of humor was kept even after we both wanted the hike to be done) and although I won't be doing this again in the near future this was one of my more memorable recent hikes. Sorry to the backpacker who pitched their tent right on the trail that I practically tripped over on the way out. :o Hope I didn't wake you up. :)
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Joel and I decided to see what the big deal was with this White Mountain/Rough Cyn loop was. Well, actually, I'll just blame this whole debacle on Joel-- I was just along for the ride :) . We made our way up White Mountain which actually isn't too bad of a bushwack. The ravine you follow for the first section is fairly easy to work up. Once you pop out of the ravine and start your climb over to the peak, the views start to really open up. White Mountain had snow on it which made things a little more difficult. I actually slipped while scaling some rocks and took a fall that I was shocked to be walking away from unhurt. Luckily I fell into a foot deep bed of snow. We made it to the summit with the best view of the Superstition Ridgeline I can imagine seeing. This is a summit worth your time!

We ate lunch, signed the register (which has 5 years between some visits), and headed down the other side for Rough Canyon. We made it down and entered under a canopy of large trees. This first section of the canyon might be one of the coolest areas of the Supes I've been in. We slowly made our way down the canyon. When I say slowly, I mean SLOWLY. I've never had miles take so long. This truly is the canyon that never ends. Every time I looked down at my GPS, it seemed like we had barely moved. By the time we got near the ruins, I just wanted a break so I found a nice cool rock to sit on while Joel bushwacked up and checked them out.

This is pretty much where the canyon stops being fun. More waterfalls start appearing that you either need to downclimb or find ways to avoid and everything is sharp and covered in thorns. It really never seems to end. As a clue of how slow going this is, we first reached the bottom of the canyon at about 2:45 and did the last 1/4 mile the canyon in the dark-- it's only 3.5 miles long! I found that climbing on rocks in the dark with only a headlamp is not my favorite thing.

We finally reached the Frog Tanks trail. I'd never been so happy to see a trail! It's a little hard to follow in the dark, but better than being in that godforsaken canyon any longer. It felt good to finally pick up the pace. We did our best to make it back to the trailhead in decent time.

hike start time: 7:10 am
hike end time: 12 midnight :o

White Mountain was awesome. The best thing about Rough Canyon is that I'll never have to hike it again! My camera apparently stopped working properly after we got into the canyon so the only pics I have are from the good part. :)
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This loop was tougher than a R2R hike but really worth it. I was tanked by the end of Rough Canyon but once on a trail I was good to go. I really liked the views from White Mountain and was surprised we found cairns in some remote areas. Joe pretty much summed up the hike and I would agree there would be no easy way to the ruins and they are not visible from below. There was more water in Rough Canyon than my 1st trip down so it was nicer and a little more difficult but very nice. Awesome hike guys.
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7:05am - Set out on an adventure with Dave and Wally. We took #109 up past Reavis Saddle then headed off-trail towards Honeycutt Spring. This creek had a decent flow, most likely from last weeks 8 inch snow that Dave saw last Sunday. Luckily high temps all week cleared out the unwanted white fluff.

9:07am - We didn't see Honeycutt Spring specifically, probably under the creek flow.

Soon after the bushwhacking turned Sheep Mountain on us. Dave had visions of meadows, Wally and I began to question his sanity.

10:10am - The bad stuff seemed to let up nearing White Mountain. Dave decides he wants to check out a cave (alcove) subjecting us all to more bush terror.

10:31am - Did my best to pound Dave with snowballs before he returned fire

10:41am - Summited White Mountain 6,100. Didn't think much of it until I noticed the last summit register was two years ago and the book goes back to 1982! Then I started noticing the views. This is hands down a top ten peak for views in Arizona. Painted cliffs over Apache Lake and the Superstition Ridgeline are best of the best. Camelback with White Tanks backdrop, tiny Picketpost, huge Pinal Mountain, Mazzie Peak, Sierra Estrella and Ancha, you name it.

11:04am - Left White Mtn. This is where Wally and Dave introduced me to high speed canyoneering. We did Rough Canyon from it's origin aside White Mountain. Heading down we passed through tall oaks with leaves only high up. Like a scene out of Africa it was a manicured forest. I was practically running to keep up with Wally flying the obstacle course at jet speed. First time I recall popping a 5hr descending anything so early in a hike. It helped as I was then able to make out the blurs of logs, vines, creek bends and such at the sweating, scratch, panting pace.

12:00pm - We reached Rough Canyon proper. Luckily the vegetation let up to basic forest canyon with occasional obstacles... as opposed to duck, crawl, jump, spin, pray, slide, gasp, repeat.

12:50pm - Stopped below some ruins. I rested while Dave and Wally checked out the ruins. I didn't bring my camera so eating/resting was more on my mind.

1:48pm - Back in action. Now I was awake and starting to kick. What I didn't realize was this canyon never fricken ends and would do it's best to defeat my energy. The creek was running good. There must have been 50+ 10-40 foot waterfalls to bypass. Fun stuff and beautiful without a doubt, just never seemed to end. Basically Fish Creek on steroids.

4:00pm - Finally reached Rogers Canyon. The temps were more reasonable here on out. We all rejoiced in celebration of an actual trail, albeit spotty until Angel Basin.

5:06pm - Passed Rogers Canyon Ruins while Dave checked 'em out. Wally and I were in get-it-over mode and knew Dave could catch up.

6:57pm - the end, I called the last creek crossing for the twelfth time and was finally right

This probably would have been more enjoyable with more sleep and minus a full Hellsgate Wilderness loop the previous day. Nevertheless an outstanding hike that I'm very grateful to have experienced! Thank you Dave and Wally!

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Couldn't spot the spring, the creek was running well. Most likely from 8 inch snowfall previous week that melted.
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A friend of mine got into contact with me, wanting to know whether to spend a couple days in Arizona or head to Texas. I convinced him that Arizona was the best choice, and he said he'd come visit under the condition that I provide a challenging first Arizona hike for him. Pretty sure this one hit the spot and then some.

Day 1: You wanted something beautiful, wished for something true
We set off from the car somewhat late in the day, thanks to my friend's flight not arriving until late morning. Since rain was in the forecast for Saturday, we decided to try to bang out all ~30 miles in only two days, but packed for three just in case. Made our ways to Reavis Falls, which were quite beautiful. My friend was impressed that there was even water in Arizona, much less a waterfall. We checked out the falls for a little while and then headed back before the sun could disappear. Filled our daypacks up on water as the trail left the creek and hiked up the hill. We opted not to use headlamps until hitting the spot we'd stashed our backpacks. The full moon was beautiful and provided quite enough light for a nice night hike. After retrieving the packs, we hiked down to Plow Saddle and set up camp around 9:30pm. One other tent was in the vicinity, but the campers were already sound asleep. We had a bite to eat, discussed plans for the next day, then zonked out till morning.

Day 2: Running through hell, heaven can wait
We awoke to sounds of our camping neighbors' dog eagerly sniffing us out through the tent wall. My friend was startled and convinced we had a coyote after us. I tried to put his fears (and secret hopes) to rest, but he refused to accept that it was a dog until the one of the owners came over to wrangle the dog back to his camp. We packed up camp, stashed our backpacks, and headed down the trail armed with food, water, filter, first aid and survival tools. Unfortunately, it was down the wrong trail and I didn't notice until I peeked at my GPS 0.8 miles later. We headed back to camp and I grabbed a raincoat I'd overlooked. We rechecked the path and were on our way again, this time down the correct trail.

Not having very current information on Rough Canyon itself, we'd decided it would be best to start at the bottom of the canyon so that we wouldn't have to downclimb anything iffy. We walked the Frog Tanks trail, which appears to be only slightly maintained. My friend experienced a phenomenon here that I'm calling "cactus blindness," where those who are unfamiliar with prickly desert flora are slow to recognize potential hazards. This led to many unfortunate events in which my partner was pricked by a plant of some variety, despite my efforts to point out even the most obvious dangers. We stopped plenty of times to de-spine, but everything was taken in stride. Finally, the trail brought us to our junction with the canyon. We headed up, boulder-hopping and avoiding the flowing water. By the time we hit the halfway point there was much less water, but were still able to fill up again higher up.

The climbs in the canyon were good for the most part, and it was lots of fun to route-find. At a slightly more difficult area of the canyon, we found Lon McAdams' shredded pack hanging from a tree. It was a little eerie seeing it even though I'd known it would be there. Just one of those tangible reminders that anything can happen in a place like this. We stopped for some quick pictures and then made our way around the drop at that section.

Only the final climb out of the canyon would I not have felt comfortable downclimbing. I briefly looked around for an alternate route, but ended up just climbing up a very slabby boulder with only one good (crimpy) handhold. I was worried my friend wouldn't be able to pull himself up, and various scenarios surrounding the twelve foot drop back to the rocky canyon floor started playing themselves in my head. But he was able to take a slightly different route that worked better for him. As Janelle always says, "Where there's a will, there's a way!" Relief! At that point, the canyon was less of a canyon and more of a creek. We walked up through it until our route began to veer left. We were out of the creek and headed unwittingly toward the worst bushwhacking I've ever encountered.

I'd shown my friend a couple manzanita plants while we were still in the creek, and shared with him my experience searching for Joe on Sheep Mountain. He'd said, "Oh, those don't look so bad." I'd told him that if he ever had to push his way through enough of those, he'd change his story. A half hour later, we were now breaking down as many manzanita walls as possible. Expletives were uttered amidst the loud rustling and sharp cracking of the rigid red branches. Darkness was soon approaching, and we still had over two miles to go before hitting another trail. Promises of having a hot meal and comfortable bedding kept us from giving in at that point, but we agreed that if anything should happen to the GPS, we'd be staying the night on the spot. I did my best to keep on track and walk in a straight line, but it's surprisingly difficult to do in the dark while encountering myriad manzanita, oak holly, thornbushes, and agave. I was often convinced that the GPS was batpumpkin crazy and leading me in completely the wrong direction, but followed it anyway as it had yet to ever lead me astray. The hours passed on, and it felt as though no progress was being made. With every section of manzanita I was able to break a tunnel into, there was no promise of there being a good route on the other side. This led to much backtracking, and eventually I was physically unable to break through any more branches. Over three hours had passed at this point, and I allowed my friend to take the lead. I feared that he'd be angry with me for choosing such a hike, but we both stayed optimistic and upbeat and focused on the fact that we would eventually push out of the whole mess at some point. We were finally less than a mile away from the trail, and took a deliberate but not overly-energetic pace through the brush. Within a half hour we were hearing water, and I grew careless with excitement and flung my hand right into a tiny prickly pear as I scootched down a small bank. My friend tweezed the spines from my hand and then we both took a much-needed break while filling up on water. The creek got our spirits up, and a little over a half hour after leaving our resting spot, we were on trail again. I could hardly believe it, and continually checked the GPS to make sure it wasn't some cruel trick. It was almost 11:00 pm. By 11:30 pm we were back at Plow Saddle, setting up camp and boiling water for food. Neither of us was hungry, but we forced ourselves to eat despite the exhaustion. We fell into a fitful sleep that night, but were grateful to finally be done moving.

Day 3: Make my way back home when I learn to fly
Saturday's goal: move out, get home, get showered, comatize. We woke up early, packed up, and munched on energy bars on our way out. It was only seven miles, but the way our bodies felt at that point, it may as well have been twenty. We were pleasantly surprised to see others making their way toward us on the trail, heading to the falls. We made light conversation with most, including a man who was day-hiking to the ranch and back. Apparently a few days prior, a mountain lion had taken a bite out of his dog while he was camped there. He'd left immediately in hopes of saving his dog, leaving most of his own equipment behind. We asked him how the dog was, but he didn't seem too optimistic.

We finally got back to the car around 10:40 am, tossed our stuff in, and headed out. We were in good spirits and stopped off at the Fry's in AJ to replenish ourselves with Gatorade and Doritos. We parked, pulled ourselves out of the car, and stood next to it for a moment while an older gentleman with a cart walked by us, amused by the grime-covered Subi and our grime-covered selves. He asked us how we were doing and gave a sly smile; we grinned back at him, replied in the affirmative, and hobbled into the store. On the way back to Phoenix, In N Out Burger called us in for burgers and shakes while the wind and rainstorm settled itself. We were home by 1:45 pm. Showered, snacked, passed out.

Epilogue: after several cactus encounters, a "rough" canyon, five hours of bushwhacking through two miles of manzanita, and plenty of bloodloss, my friend now wants to come to Arizona at least once a year and do some more trails with me.
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Used Reavis 109 North to make this a 3 day lasso loop. Good company, exhausting and awesome hike. It was cool to find Lon's stuff still out there.

Luckily everything went according to plan and everyone enjoyed themselves. Food afterwards was excellent, found my new favorite post-Supes eatery!
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I had to work Friday so I hiked in at night with Alex & Andrew. We didn't see any other vehicles on the drive in but the Reavis North TH was packed. The lonely night hike in turned out to be a conga line!? :DANCE: The Farnsworth clan dropped a canteen. When Alex tried to give it back they denied ownership. Must have been full of something illegal. After they realized we weren't special agents chasing them down the dark trail we handed them the goods and moved on. I lost my watch enroute to camp but I didn't dare go back with Farnsworth out there lurking. The campfire was a welcome site and we turned in after relaxing a few hours. On Saturday we started the bushwack up the ridge toward Rough Canyon. That's the ugly part of the trip. The hike down Rough Canyon and up Frog Tanks is physically tough but much easier on the skin. Rough Canyon itself is very interesting with an old corral, a few campsites, some bright maples and rugged terrain. No Bigfoot sitings but we may have found his sleeping bag hanging in a tree. The trip out was easy and the food after good as always. Good trip, great company and no injuries. (other than the usual blood loss, bruises, cuts and scrapes)
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i dont know the time it took to hike the loop but it was like it's namesake, Rough. I think we found the spot where Lon spent several days in Rough Canyon with a knee injury.
Plow saddle spring was our base camp. no wildlife spotted save for 2 doe whitetails.
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Hiked in at night with Wally and Andrew. Lots of people on the trail at night, of course they were all on the way to Reavis Ranch while we were headed to Plow Saddle Spring. Met an interesting, suspicious fellow named Farnsworth :sl: Got to camp and Kurt, Steve, and Mike already had a nice warm fire waiting for us. Slept well that night and got up to tackle Rough Canyon.
Started with a bushwack to Paradise Canyon, up onto a ridge and then down into Rough Canyon, this part was beastly, slow going and strenuous, my least favorite part of the trip. Then into the Canyon itself, which at first was in a tall pine forest and then went down gradually into Roger's Canyon. Rockhopping, bushwacking and negotiating rocks in the canyon. Nice canyon and interesting. Especially cool seeing what we believe was where Lon McAdam took his unfortunate fall.
After the canyon was the Frog Tanks climb. For some reason I hit a wall energy wise and hiked very slow this portion, luckily Andrew and Steve were hiking around the same speed so we finished the hike together just after the sun set. Mike, Wally, and Kurt had another fire waiting for us.
The next day was the 7 mile hike back to Reavis Trailhead. Relatively easy hike back to the trailhead and we finished about noon. Then we stopped at Dirtwater Springs in Apache Junction on Kurt's recomendation. Muy Bueno! Great food for after a hike!! And generous portions as well. FYI the Ultimate Nachos could probably feed 4 people :o
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Terrific write-up by Nonot- this was a terrific adventure with 5 terrific companions. Thanks guys!

The weather conditions were perfect - I would suggest fall as the best season for this adventure.
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