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Nov 03 2023
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 NYC, New York
Canyon-Avoidant Superstition Ridgeline, AZ 
Canyon-Avoidant Superstition Ridgeline, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 03 2023
thesnakefromthelemTriplogs 5
Hiking20.19 Miles 5,746 AEG
Hiking20.19 Miles   13 Hrs   23 Mns   1.78 mph
5,746 ft AEG   2 Hrs   4 Mns Break
 
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This is a repeat of a hike that I first completed this March. Unlike last time, I actually managed to get to the trailhead before sunrise, albeit still later than I had initially wanted. Nevertheless, given the relatively shorter November daytime and the addition of a handful of new elements, I ended up finishing in around the same amount of darkness. Moreover, daytime temps in the valley (so presumably also on the ridgeline) were about 10C higher than they had been in March, peaking in the low 30s. Curiously, I was, as far as I could tell, alone the entire day between the scramble toward balanced rock (during which I heard folks' voices at Hieroglyphics Falls at ~07:00) and the walk along First Water Road to SR-88 (~20:00).

The biggest difference between the two trips, however, was that I was forced to complete this one almost entirely without my glasses. I somehow managed to lose them just above Hieroglyphics Falls scarcely half an hour into the day. (They didn't fall off my face or anything like that—I simply set them down to wipe them and they disappeared.) I looked for them for over 20 minutes to no avail. Given how the rest of the weekend was predicted to be even warmer, I ultimately decided to continue without them. It's my impression that things move slowly in the desert absent rainfall, so I'll search for them more thoroughly when back in town... The silver lining was that between the binoculars that I had packed and my relative familiarity with the area, I didn't really have any severe issues with routefinding on the off-trail segments of the hike, even despite my abysmal eyesight (something like -5 in both eyes).

At any rate, I made it up to Peak 5057 without any other incidents via the "Balanced Rock" route modulo the modifications detailed in my previous triplog. From there, I carried on to the Three Sisters as before, after that beginning the long walk to Peak 5024.

I must have misplaced the main Ridgeline trail on the way back just southeast of Peak 5057 near where the spur trail diverges; I found myself following a well-trodden alternative, skirting the "tuft" of hoodoos just north of 5057 below and to the east as opposed to adjacent and to the west. I made it back onto the trail proper just fine, but it's visible on the GPS track where I backtracked along the main trail to figure out precisely where I had gone astray.

I then made it down the "crux" by which the summit block of 5057 is accessed from the north and from there to the base of topo marker 4790 in a reasonable timeframe. I ascended up to 4790 via the same crevice that I had previously accessed it, only this time I brought my backpack with me (using a rope to lower it on the way down). This emboldened me to wander around on top of the platform for a bit; the views of the remainder of the Superstitions were amazing, and those of Weaver's Needle were in particular arguably better than those from anywhere else on the mountain. Having rested and eaten/drank sufficiently, I descended the way I came and then continued moving north along the ridgeline.

The stretch of ridgeline between 4790 and Peak 5024 were all more or less as I remembered, albeit warmer, with Hiero Saddle, "Peak 4869", and Peak 5024's Key Col all passed in due time.

Once I made it onto the large block on which Peak 5024 and the Flatiron rest, I diverged from the Ridgeline trail as before, following the hoodoo-decorated "minor ridgeline" over to Peak 5024. This segment of the hike was more taxing than it should have been; I had forgotten the intricacies of the many routes through the hoodoos and had to do a fair bit of scrambling up and down that I otherwise could have avoided. I knew that I was almost in the home stretch when I saw the particularly memorable hoodoo whose silhouette is strongly reminiscent of a man with a green lichenous beard.

I then descended down to the Flatiron from 5024 ascended back to 5024 from the Flatiron via the standard route through the hoodoo maze; I had wanted to do this back in March but had ran out of food and time so skipped it. This was my first visit to the Flatiron all year and I was pleasantly surprised by how short the trip from 5024 to the Flatiron actually was (no more than 15mins in either direction).

By the time I was back at 5024 (~16:30), the shadows were beginning to get long, so I wasted little time in returning back to "Greenbeard" and starting the long and scrambly descent to Massacre Falls. Having never before hiked the area in Fall, I had not counted on the vegetation having grown as much as it did since March. This made for a comparatively uncomfortable bushwack in the beginning, especially in the upper reaches of Massacre Canyon, where some scrambling was involved. Eventually, however, I made it past that segment, and was pleased to see that the hike down was more or less as I had remembered, even as the amount of cairns and of spots where a social trail had begun to develop exceeded what I remembered. The sun set on me and dusk began during this segment of the trip.

Once I was just above Massacre Falls, I decided, foolishly, to attempt to descend the final scramble portion through the "window" via which I had many times ascended (but never previously descended). The effect of this was that I attempted to climb down to the Falls much farther east than was feasible, and it was only after a lot of confusing scrambling and being repeatedly forced west by cliff-outs in the blurry, rapidly-fading light (using the rope I had packed to plumb their depth and see whether they could be safely scrambled) that I finally found my way to the Falls. In the moment I was sure that I had taken an unnecessarily west-detoured downclimb to reach them; it was only when I consulted my GPS track in hindsight did I see that the route I had taken down was essentially that which I had ascended those many months ago.

From Massacre Falls, the walk to Jacob's Crosscut trailhead was mostly straightforward, following the Massacre Falls trail, although I did manage to misplace the trail on a few occasions, traversing the desert to rejoin it.

Overall, it was a fun trip despite some jolting hiccups, and I'm glad that I finally managed to complete the route I had initially envisioned including the points of interest that I had initially excluded when first hiking it in March. I don't know when I'll return to Superstition Mountain, but if the weather is favorable, then I'll certainly consider repeating it once more.
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Mar 17 2023
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 NYC, New York
Canyon-Avoidant Superstition Ridgeline, AZ 
Canyon-Avoidant Superstition Ridgeline, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Mar 17 2023
thesnakefromthelemTriplogs 5
Hiking18.90 Miles 5,412 AEG
Hiking18.90 Miles   10 Hrs   11 Mns   2.04 mph
5,412 ft AEG      55 Mns Break
 
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The goal of this hike, as the title suggests, was to traverse the Superstition Ridgeline without having to pass through any of the three main canyons by which it's usually accessed. (I'm just not a fan of Siphon Draw, Carney, or Hieroglyphic Canyon!)

Aside from the grave error of rolling out of bed at 08:00 and consequently having to circle the Hiero TH parking lot for over half an hour before finding parking, the trip, which I've divided into eight segments below, went smoothly. I hope to repeat it with minor modifications in the near future.

The first segment of the route was the usual walk from the Hieroglyphic TH to Hieroglyphic Falls on the Hieroglyphic Trail; nothing unusual, though at 09:30, I began much later than I would have liked.

The second segment was approximately the "Balanced Rock/South Ascent" route from the Falls to Superstition Peak 5057. To keep things interesting, I took a couple detours from the standard/cairned route. These involved some fun but short segments of class 3. In particular, I deviated southwest of the standard route when attacking the first major cliff band, hiking directly toward one of the "horns" visible from Hiero Falls instead of bypassing it via the balanced rock. Subsequently, I deviated northwest of the usual bypass of the second major cliff band, ignoring the large white spraypainted arrow directing ascending hikers rightward. Finally, upon having made it through the third and last big cliff band on the standard route and coming level with the summit block of 5057, I continued straight toward the peak instead of keeping east to meet the spur from the Ridgeline Trail.

The third and fourth segments involved traveling southeast along the spur and Ridgeline Trails from 5057 to the Three Sisters and then northwest along the Ridgeline Trail from the Three Sisters to the shallow saddle between 5057 and topo marker 4790 respectively. I was able to access the latter via a class 3+/4 indentation in the wall to its south.

The fifth segment was just continuing northwest along the Ridgeline Trail, from topo marker 4790 to just past topo marker 4562; the sixth segment was deviating north from the Ridgeline Trail to approach Supserstition Peak 5024 from the east, reaching the peak just as the sun was getting low in the horizon.

The trip's seventh segment was effectively a downward "reverse flatiron", descending northeast to the falls from the prominence just above it. Toward its end, the sun had set and twilight had begun, making for some great views of the hills to the north and of the Four Peaks off in the distance, but there was still sufficient light to navigate without a flashlight.

The eighth and final segment of the hike was a flashlight-aided walk to Jacob's Crosscut TH from the Falls via the Massacre Falls trail. (At which point I continued down the NF road and SR 88 to the Lost Dutchman parking lot, where I was picked up by a family member.)

Overall, this was a really enjoyable trip, though more challenging than my previous hikes in the area. Temps were in the 10-20°C range for the most part, and I ended up drinking about 5 of the 7 liters of water I brought with me, so I'll probably have to wait for the summer heat to wear off before I can attempt a repeat.
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Feb 01 2023
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Peak 4102 - SuperstitionsPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking8.23 Miles 4,045 AEG
Hiking8.23 Miles   6 Hrs   52 Mns   1.58 mph
4,045 ft AEG   1 Hour   39 Mns Break
 
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Instead of the Official Route to Peak 4102, we turned left off of Siphon Draw near Siphon Dome (The Gatekeeper) and ascended the Ripped Shirt or BASE jumpers gully. The route manifests with a few cl.3 ledge scrambles before reaching the Lost Dihedrals hanging valley north of The Three Old Maids. We didn't remember the previous route we'd taken in the past and wandered around within some mildly annoying vegetation, eventually finding a passable gully and topping out on the plateau near the yellow-hued peak. After a short summit break, we hiked southeast, then up, merging into the upper part of the Reverse Flatiron route. There were a few neat areas of verglas on the way to Ironview Peak. After another summit and our first beer, the hiking was considerably easier down to the Flatiron (another beer) and eventually out via Siphon Draw, the Palmer Mine bypass and the east side of the Treasure Loop.
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Jan 23 2023
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Reverse FlatironPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking9.02 Miles 3,651 AEG
Hiking9.02 Miles   4 Hrs   22 Mns   2.10 mph
3,651 ft AEG      4 Mns Break
 
1st trip
Completed the Reverse Flatiron in reverse, so essentially a forward Flatiron. :-k
Because everyone who loves the desert, should occasionally just wander around in it.
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Mar 22 2022
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Reverse FlatironPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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fdv75Triplogs 245
Hiking8.06 Miles 3,029 AEG
Hiking8.06 Miles   5 Hrs   57 Mns   1.59 mph
3,029 ft AEG      52 Mns Break
 
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Lots of flowers along the route. Came down via the Canyon of Waterfalls.
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Feb 13 2022
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 Tempe, AZ
Reverse FlatironPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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mikemcgTriplogs 129
Hiking9.20 Miles 3,376 AEG
Hiking9.20 Miles   5 Hrs   35 Mns   1.76 mph
3,376 ft AEG      21 Mns Break
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Did my first Reverse Flatiron on my birthday. After celebrating the night before, we started around 0800. Weather was a little chilly but sun felt good. Went off trail a couple times to explore a cave and some interesting rocks. The ascent was more straightforward than expected; the cairns were helpful to keep us on route. It was also really green with some wildflowers and a lot of great views. I should have taken more pictures. We stopped on Peak 5024 to check out the views, then headed down. We stopped at the plane crash site (first time) to pay our respects, which felt like the most precarious part of the day with all the slippery loose rocks. We then headed down the Siphon draw trail. As usual, going down was slower than going up. The last couple miles back to the trailhead were nice, pleasant, sunny, and warm. We encountered no people until the plane crash memorial, then probably 100 on the descent. Overall a great experience, much more picturesque than I expected.
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Jan 29 2022
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55 male
 Joined Aug 20 2009
 Mesa, AZ
Reverse FlatironPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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RickVincentTriplogs 783
Hiking7.20 Miles 3,376 AEG
Hiking7.20 Miles   3 Hrs   45 Mns   1.92 mph
3,376 ft AEG
 
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One of my favorites, at least the first half anyway. Complete solitude coming up from the back route. Hundreds of people on the Siphon Draw side. Maybe I should try going back down the Reverse route. I've yet to try that.
2hr 21m from Hwy 88 TH to Peak 5024. Another 1hr 24m back down to the car via Siphon.
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Jan 01 2022
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 Mesa, AZ
Reverse FlatironPhoenix, AZ
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RickVincentTriplogs 783
Hiking6.50 Miles 3,376 AEG
Hiking6.50 Miles   8 Hrs      0.81 mph
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Reverse Flatiron via Rick's Alternate Route. After close to 24 hours of rain, I set my sights on Canyon of Waterfalls and a Reverse Flatiron. Met up with Patrick at Hwy 88/First Water trailhead. Late morning start at 9:30am. Canyon of Waterfalls was amazing. More flow than I've ever seen and plenty of other creeks and falls along the way. There was enough water to force a detour up towards the finger spire. Going up the usual waterfall route would have been very wet, slippery and dangerous. Instead, we worked around the falls scrambling along the ridge to our left. This took some time, but we worked out the route and found ourselves at my usual location, right next to the finger spire. We enjoyed this spot for awhile, watched the water, ate some snacks then proceeded up the ridge toward the traditional Reverse Flatiron that originates out of Massacre Falls. From there, it was straight up the steep ridge toward the hoodoos and Peak 5024. Fueled up with some more food and drink just short of the peak, then continued on toward the peak. Arrived at 5024 where another group of about 5 had just arrived at the same time. We chatted up our routes for awhile, then Patrick and I started our descent on the usual Flatiron route through Siphon Draw. Patrick was moving slow due to some leg cramps, but we made it out without any other issues.
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Oct 16 2021
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 Mesa, Arizona
Reverse Flatiron via Canyon of the Waterfalls, AZ 
Reverse Flatiron via Canyon of the Waterfalls, AZ
 
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fitpromichaelTriplogs 1
Hiking8.46 Miles 2,791 AEG
Hiking8.46 Miles   6 Hrs   25 Mns   1.48 mph
2,791 ft AEG      41 Mns Break10 LBS Pack
 
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This hike begins at the Jacob's Crosscut/Massacre Ground Trailhead off of First Water Road. Follow the track, veering to your left and up into the Canyon of the Waterfalls. Ascend above the falls area and make your way up to the Ridgeline and over to the Flatiron. Check out the November 2011 plane crash memorial located at the base of the rock formation the plane hit. You'll notice it at the base of the cliff as you look up and to your left as you move toward the Flatiron. Descend on Siphon Draw Trail and reconnect with Jacob's Crosscut to return to the point of origin.
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 Mesa, AZ
Reverse FlatironPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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RickVincentTriplogs 783
Hiking7.25 Miles 3,376 AEG
Hiking7.25 Miles   9 Hrs   50 Mns   0.74 mph
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Quite a day. Almost 10 hours on the mountain. My friend, Brent, started to cramp up at about 4100 feet on the ascent. He didn't like idea of going back down the off trail route, so we continued to the peak and then down Siphon. Brent was moving very slow and carefully and was able to avoid any falls or injury. It was a tough day for him, but at the same time he kept positive and enjoyed the views and the day long experience. After some more fitness training and trail runs, he wants to do this one with me again in 30 days to redeem himself.
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Jan 11 2020
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 Pine, AZ
Reverse FlatironPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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jillyonanadventureTriplogs 191
Hiking8.50 Miles 3,376 AEG
Hiking8.50 Miles
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Second attempt at this route after failing the goal attempting it from canyon of the waterfalls the week prior; can’t go that way when the water is flowing hard! Tip to start on the main massacre falls trail instead of the bushwhacking next to the trail that the official route suggests. Once on top of massacre falls, wave bye to all the people because you won’t see anyone again for a while. Steep off trail climb straight up that seemed to go on forever. Route finding got a bit tricky for us after this point, but we managed to link up to the Ridgeline trail and explore the crash site memorial before heading up to peak 5024. (Wouldn’t recommend going up there the way we did). Hung out at the peak for a bit and snacked while chatting with fellow hikers. Going back down flatiron in the afternoon was not ideal since it was packed. It felt amazing to be on flat ground again after finishing the descent. Wouldn’t do it again on a 4th date :M2C:
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Nov 18 2019
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 Mesa, AZ
Reverse FlatironPhoenix, AZ
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RickVincentTriplogs 783
Hiking7.00 Miles 3,376 AEG
Hiking7.00 Miles   4 Hrs      1.75 mph
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Met up with Troy and we drove out to Hwy 88/First Water TH. On the trail at 6:20am in the dark. Used the headlamp for about 15 minutes before there was enough natural light. Took the Canyon of Waterfalls route from Praying Hands. Off trail past the finger spire and up towards Peak 5027. We took in the awesome sights the whole way and enjoyed the solitude this route offers. Snacks at the peak, then started our way down towards the masses of people making their way up the Draw. Totally different experience. 50 sports bras, maybe more. :app: We were back at the trailhead at 10:20am.
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Nov 16 2019
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 Kodiak, AK
First Water Reverse Flatiron, AZ 
First Water Reverse Flatiron, AZ
 
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mr_squishyTriplogs 27
Hiking12.90 Miles 3,476 AEG
Hiking12.90 Miles   11 Hrs   49 Mns   1.26 mph
3,476 ft AEG   1 Hour   34 Mns Break
 
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I have always wanted to do a Reverse Flatiron, but wanted a more off trail hike. I decided to connect the First Water Creek route with the RF and created an excellent off-trail adventure. I left First Water TH at 6:15 am and headed up the Dutchman Trail to First Water creek. I followed the creek drainage to the Massacre Grounds trail; unfortunately, at that point my GPS lost all satellite signals for about ten minutes which resulted in an erroneous ten mile segment up to Canyon Lake and back on my GPS track and delayed my start on the RF. Once GPS signals returned, I headed up the RF from Massacre Grounds and with the help of multiple cairns and my now accurate GPS successfully completed the route. There was some scrambling which slowed me down. I headed up to Peak 5024, then over to the Flatiron to consort with the crowds, then slowly made my way down Siphon Draw. I connected with the Jacobs Crosscut trail and followed it to First Water road, then walked two miles on the road back to my vehicle, completing my twelve hour odyssey. An excellent off trail adventure for the first half; I really didn't enjoy descending Siphon Draw and it was the least enjoyable portion of the hike. In the future, I think I would return the way I came up and connect to one of the trails that returns to First Water Road.
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Mar 17 2019
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 The Basin
Reverse FlatironPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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survivordudeTriplogs 224
Hiking8.50 Miles 3,376 AEG
Hiking8.50 Miles   6 Hrs      1.42 mph
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Perfect day for a hike! Corey wanted Flat Iron, I wanted something new and solitude.. we made a compromise. I had never been to Massacre let alone reverse Flat Iron, so this was all new territory for both of us. 6:30 AM at the mini CC TH. Easy stroll up to the the waterfall area. Flowers are everywhere right now, its incredible. The falls were really cool and flowing nice still. Found the path up and over and up and up and up. The path was actually very easy to follow and pretty well worn. Stopping to breath now and then was must, if only for the outstanding views of Four Peaks and the rest of the Superstitions becoming more and more visible as we ascended. Lots of sliding scree stuff up towards the top. Made it to the flat area just under the peak and lost the trail as it skirts around the west side of 5024. It looks very steep and the slipperiness made us just drop down to the ridgeline trail and follow that back to Siphon. It actually worked well as we finally took a small break at the pine tree camp (which may not be a pine tree camp for long if people keep chopping off the pine trees at the pine tree camp). Came over the hump to see Flat Iron and its three hundred minions. Three hundred is probably an accurate count.. oh well make it 302. Loved every part of this alternative and will definitely be back up this way again.
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Feb 27 2019
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Canyon of the Waterfalls & Massacre Falls, AZ 
Canyon of the Waterfalls & Massacre Falls, AZ
 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,376
Hiking8.40 Miles 2,450 AEG
Hiking8.40 Miles   6 Hrs   10 Mns   2.20 mph
2,450 ft AEG   2 Hrs   21 Mns Break
 
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Tracie and I were looking for a hike to do today and decided on checking out a couple of waterfalls in the Supes. I had thought about going to the Goldfields and doing the Peak 3108 Ridgeline, North Bulldog Ridge, and Peak 3004; but I figured that the peaks would be there another time but water in the waterfalls might not.

We started at the Crosscut TH, and took the Crosscut Trail #58 to the Treasure Loop Trail #56, and wound up just west of Praying Hands. Then we went to Praying Hands and continued about 1/4 mile east and then went up the Canyon of the Waterfalls. I had been in the canyon a couple of times but had never seen any waterfalls -- the only water that I had seen there was a couple of small pools of stagnant water. But today was different -- there were 3 or 4 waterfalls, including the big waterfall up in the canyon. After checking out the falls, instead of dropping back down the canyon and going over to Massacre Falls, we decided to continue up the canyon on one of the Reverse Flatiron routes and make our way over to ridge down below Peak 5024. From there we went down up and over Peak 3903 down to Massacre Falls.

When we were down below Peak 5024, I thought about heading up there -- we were at 4,000' at that point, so we only had 1,000' to go. But there was quite a bit of slushy snow on the ground, along with some slippery mud; and since we'd be going up 1,000' in less than 1/2 mile, we decided against it.

It was a fairly easy trek down to the top of Massacre Falls, but the way down below the falls wasn't as easy as I thought. We first went east of the falls, but the way down from there was not all that great, partly because some of the rocks were wet and slippery. So we decided to go up and down a hill west of the falls, and that turned out to be a painless way to go down.

This was my first trip to Massacre Falls, and there was a good bit of water flowing over the falls -- probably not as much as the past weekend, but it was still a good bit of water.

We left Massacre Falls just in time -- just as we left we met 6 horseback riders going to the falls. Six horses, two dogs, and 15 people in a 20X20 area is not my cup of tea, so I am glad that we were out of there!

here is a video of the waterflow in the canyon of the waterfalls: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO ... E3dzJhVFpR

here is a video of massacre falls:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO ... E3dzJhVFpR
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RickVincentTriplogs 783
Hiking7.25 Miles 3,376 AEG
Hiking7.25 Miles   9 Hrs   50 Mns   0.74 mph
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If I had known ahead of time what I was about to get myself into, I would have stopped very early in my snowy trek and turned around. That would have been the smart decision, but not nearly as fun.

8 years ago is the last time I found myself at the top of the Flatiron walking ankle deep in snow. For all these years I've wanted another shot at it, but the timing just never worked out. The mountain has seen snow several times since 2011, but it seems like it would always happen on a day I was working, or I was going out of town, or I was hung over from a NYE celebration. I didn't want to wait a few days after the winter storm event either. I wanted fresh powder, less than 24 hours old.

On February 21-22, 2019, we experienced the storm of all Arizona winter storms with record snowfall in locations all across the state, and it did that just in time for the weekend. Wahoo! Clear my schedule, I'm going to the Flatiron.

I packed my gear the night before which included new snow spikes, waterproof neoprene gloves and a pair of boots. Also packed my Samsung phone/camera, Nikon P900 and Canon SLR cameras along with several lenses and a tripod. I was on the road by 5:45am and at the Hwy 88 trail head by 6:15. At this point, I decided, as I often do, to forego the typical Siphon Draw route and attempt a Reverse Flatiron via Praying Hands and the Canyon of Waterfalls. As I approached Praying Hands, I turned and admired the incredible views of snow covered peaks behind me. Four Peaks was white all the way to the foothills and the peaks were buried in clouds. Low hanging fog filled the valleys between the mountains and hills making for some moody photographs.

The first signs of snow appeared about a hundred yards short of Praying Hands. Nothing much, just palm size chunks that looked like it had already begun to melt. From Praying Hands to Canyon of Waterfalls was where my progress was forced to slow. Not much snow, but invisible ice spots forming on parts of the trail could have made for some early trouble. In retrospect this may have been a good place to try the snow spikes, I just wasn't sure how they would handle on all the slick rock sections.

I arrived at the Canyon of Waterfalls, set up some photo ops and enjoyed the amount of water rushing through the canyon. When it was time to move on, I realized that climbing my usual route up the waterfalls was going to be a dangerous idea. I started working my way up and around the canyon along the left cliffs. In some instances I was making big moves that I knew would prove a challenge going back down. I moved on anyway and arrived at the big finger spire. It was here that I decided I would either have to complete the Reverse Flatiron up to Peak 5024 or return down the canyon. I was already 3 hours into my trek. Wow! On a typical day I would have reached this point in just over 1 hour, but I was taking photos and taking a cautious slow approach. I would just have to speed things up a bit on the way up to Peak 5024. I threw on the snow spikes and started the off trail climb. Every step of my ascent would be in the snow from this point forward.

People have cairned the route, but there were no visible cairns. I really don't find them necessary anyway for this climb, so the fact that they were buried in white powder was no bother. Just stay on top of the ridges and proceed toward the peak. Also not visible were any small cactus such as the hedgehogs, prickly pear and chain fruit cholla along the way. I knew they were there somewhere. Somehow I managed to stay out of trouble.

I reached the junction in the two ridges which connect my route with the traditional Massacre Falls Reverse Flatiron route. The snow depth had advanced from ankle depth to mid-shin to just below the kneecap. I started to get a little concerned about how much deeper it might get, but now the prospect of turning around seemed much less appealing. I was 4 hours plus into this adventure and about 4000 feet elevation. I had to be beyond the half way point in my journey, but I knew there was still a solid 1000 feet elevation gain to go.

For the next several hundred feet of gain, snow depth was still below my kneecaps. I had to start developing strategies for each step. Sometimes a serpentine back and forth traverse worked out. Sometimes using my arms to dig out snow ahead of me so I could evaluate the next foot hold. Sometimes jamming both arms into the snow and trying to pull the snow toward me in a swimming motion while stepping forward. Sometimes only lifting my foot partly out of the postholes I was creating and then pushing it forward into the snow. I know that trying to lift each leg completely out of the snow was becoming quite exhausting and sometimes would only produce a 6 inch momentum zapping gain.

At just over 6 hours into the climb I had reached a set of spires that are just a couple hundred feet below Peak 5024. Anyone who has hiked back here, probably knows the ones I am talking about. From here I got my first view of the Superstition Ridgeline and surrounding mountains. It was snow, snow and more snow on every mountain out there as far as I could see. Awe-inspiring and a total boost to my motivation and energy. I needed it, because now most steps were sinking above my kneecaps. What a difference this makes. Movement becomes very restricted at this depth. Now I found myself frequently digging forward with my hands trying to remove the loose powder in front of me just to move forward.

Every now and then I would find myself in drifts that were now mid-thigh. I had to look at the landscape and try and figure out if there were any clues that would lead me on a path to something more navigable. In a couple spots I found myself just standing there facing a steep snow bank, and feeling defeated. I was so close though. So I just started digging and tossing snow behind me, finding footholds and handholds and pulling myself up. Soon enough the terrain started to level off and the snow depth retreated to knee depth.

I had arrived at Peak 5024. Looking down at the Flatiron I could see about 8-10 people congregating at the edge and/or making their way up a trail cutting through the snow. From where I stood, there were no footsteps, no signs of anyone having been up here after this storm. I was the first and only person to reach the peak up to this point. I took in the magnificent, pristine white, 360 degree views, I snapped some photos, ate some food and recharged for the descent.

Snow depth was still up to the kneecaps which meant the trail was completely hidden, but I know this route well and I found myself under the first rock tunnel and then under the next rock tunnel. If you've done it, you know what I'm talking about. At one point, I finally spotted the footpaths of others who had started towards the peak, but then retreated. Once I stepped into those footpaths, I felt a sudden rush of relief that the toughest work was now behind me. I could actually walk on the snow instead of plunging down into it.

The rest of the way down was handled slower than usual and with caution. I kept the snow spikes on and they worked great. I was back to the masses of people making their way up to the Flatiron. There they were in their shorts and sneakers with freezing cold hands ( no gloves ). Totally unprepared hikers, but moving on towards the goal, nonetheless.

I made my way down through the basin, onto drier land and over to the Crosscut trail and back to my car just under 10 hours before I had started this journey. I wanted nothing more than to stop at a convenience store and slam a Powerade. Immediate fortune would not be had however. It seems that the rest of the valley, like me, had also come to enjoy a day in the desert snow. My drive back home, usually about 20 minutes, took 1 hour and 15 minutes. I skipped the beverage stop and made a beeline for my happy home, the one with the always 103 degree hot tub waiting in the backyard. Aaaahhhhhhhh!
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Hiking8.75 Miles 3,376 AEG
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Good weather for this adventure starting at 44 degrees. Began and ended in Lost Dutchman Park , proceeded up Treasure Loop trail , then to the base of Praying Hands, saw 4 hikers and 4 dogs on the way . Then took the path toward the Massacre Grounds until the dry waterfall, actually not completely dry right now, passed by a single hiker with his dog and saw no one else until reaching 5024. After turning south up canyon there is a barrier of boulders on the west side of the drainage ,upper weekes wash, I argued with myself for awhile whether to drop down in the drainage or climb above the boulders. After probing up and down this for about 30 minutes I never found an easy way to suggest. I did come across some graffiti , date says 6/28 / 1938, not a time of year I would want to be here! Finally climbed over the boulders taking roughly the same route I took for the 4102 loop a couple of months ago ,from here saw a feasible way to cross the drainage ahead, may try staying in the drainage next time. Found a few cairns where I crossed above some pooling water . After this continued on trudging up through the vegetation in a southeast direction, warning looking up here may be discouraging, intersected a trodden path coming up from the Massacre Grounds and so followed it until the goalposts were in sight,felt like I had been kicked over them. Some melting ice remains in small patches on this side near the top. Made my way over to 5024, someone had a hammock swung between 2 rocks ,unfortunately it was occupied. Took a break below the summit to be out of the wind.Decided not to join the crowd on flatiron. Uneventful trip down to Crosscut Trail and back.
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A good day from the very start. Perfect temperature. The trailhead at hwy 88 was packed. Lots of people on the trail ahead of me, which made the decision to go reverse route a no brainer. Arrived at 5024 2hrs 15 minutes after my start. Ate a snack, caught my breath and continued down toward the chaos that is Siphon Draw in the winter. As I approached Jacobs Crosscut, I looked ahead and saw a group of about 50 coming up. So much for the 15 person group limit.
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Did this from Cholla lot at Lost Dutchman State Park in a counterclockwise direction. Probably not a good idea doing this after it rained. In spite of the slipping and sliding, this hike was exhilarating.

Played tour guide on the way up. Picked up one guy standing on the sidelines at the basin. It was Freddie's first time to the top and it turned out he was in the same air group I was at Camp Pendleton, USMC, albeit 30+ years later. Met another group while I was on my way to 5024 and took them to the top. Matt, Amir and Alex were also first timers.

And then I had things all to myself for a time as I made my way down the mountain to Massacre Falls. It was wet and slippery and steep. I had a few slips and falls and a couple of fun butt slides down some slick rock, but no harm done.

Picked up the Massacre Falls trail at the bottom of the mountain and immediately decided I wanted off of that. I know a couple of routes that take you back towards the fins, so I took one of them. When I reached the turn where I go up towards the fins, I decided instead to go north on the Silverlock Prospect trail towards the Crosscut TH for a few extra miles.

A short while later, I caught up to Amy returning to the Crosscut TH after a hike up Silverlock Prospect trail. We hiked together until we reached Jacobs Crosscut trail. From there, I headed back to Lost Dutchman.

Excellent day. Overcast at the start and all the way up Siphon Draw. Not too busy, even with the late start.

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Heavy fog on the way to the trailhead today. Mostly clear by the time I reached hwy 88 trailhead at First Water Rd around 9am. Started up towards Praying Hands then on to Waterfalls Canyon. This is where I made a decision. Turn back or continue on up and do a Reverse Flatiron. I chose the Reverse FI. Took about two hours and 15 minutes to the peak, and just in time to watch some big clouds move across the Flatiron and Peak 5024. The fog layer below was clearing. I really wish I would have started earlier to catch the fog layer while it covered most of AJ and Mesa. Early bird gets the worm, but that was not me today.
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