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May 14 2024
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 Ahwatukee, AZ
Saulsbury Trail #263Tucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,601
Hiking14.97 Miles 4,280 AEG
Hiking14.97 Miles   8 Hrs   40 Mns   2.02 mph
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Kelly and I were wanting to get down to the Chiricahuas before temps warmed up too much for a bigger loop. Parked at the Saulsbury TH (note, that short section of road to the trailhead is quite rough, you need decent clearance, or need to park lower down) and headed up Saulsbury, which is also spelled Saulsberry on at least one sign, but should maybe be spelled Saulsbeary based on the footprints and scat along the trail. Very decent climb uphill, gaining about 3000’, but at a fairly consistent incline. There are a few roughed up spots on the trail, but overall in good shape.

Once we reached the Crest Trail, we opted to head north and approach Flys Peak from the north side. Somewhat limited views from the summit, but plenty of places to sit for a snack. We dropped off the south side of the peak and reconnected to the Crest Trail at Round Park. Saw the world’s most clueless deer, which actually walked towards us. Crest Trail southbound was in good shape as expected. Once at the southern end of South Flys, I opted to skip the summit while Kelly made the short offtrail trip up since she had never been there before. I’ve been there twice, and was somewhat tired today in the warmer temps, so didn’t mind the extra break.

After Kelly returned from the South Flys, we continued south on Crest and up to Chiricahua Peak. Saw one hiker, the only one of the day. Quick snack break, then headed down towards the top of Mormon Ridge. Saw a patch of snow. Some deadfall.

Descended Mormon Ridge for a short distance, then hopped onto Mormon Canyon. Steep descent, with a messy trail, but enjoyable. Poles were helpful in several places. The more we dropped, the less steep the trail became, and the condition improved. Running water here and there, overall rather nice. Once at the bottom of the trail, we walked the road past the campground, then found a shortcut back over to where we were parked at Saulsbury. Stopped by the Johnny Ringo gravesite on our drive out, since Kelly had not been there before.

Great hike, and a great loop. Long day with the drive, but lots of fun. Thanks, Kelly, for joining me on this one!
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Lots of lupine. Some patches of columbine. Claret cup. And others.

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Light flow of water in the canyon

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Saulsbury Trail #263Tucson, AZ
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linda proposed a loop in the chiricahuas starting from the turkey creek area
saw two turkeys from the road right before setting out at 0700
cool temps in the canyon to start with, but warmed up quickly in the sun
i really liked saulsbury trail
moderate grade and good condition all the way to the crest trail intersection
linda spotted a good sized bear track near the split with rock creek trail
at the crest trail, we opted to go north to the flys peak trail
took a snack break at the summit, then descended to the south
linda graciously waited for me to hike up south flys
pretty easy off trail, but steep
both peaks were new ones for me
we continued to chiricahua peak and had more snacks
started down mormon ridge, then decided to finish on mormon canyon
new trail for linda, and the top part was new to me
shade and flowing water were nice
passed the campground, then linda had found a shortcut up to the trailhead
saved us some road walking
we saw one hiker the entire day, one deer and some lizards
stopped at johnny ringo's gravesite on the way out
this was a great hike, linda, thank you!
good views, good weather, mostly good trail conditions, new trails and peaks
love the chiricahuas, and there is so much more to do there
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Arizona Fire Lookouts II, AZ 
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I decided to head down to the Chiricahuas and hike to a couple of fire lookouts that I had not been to before. On the way back to Phoenix, I took a detour and went to the Johnny Ringo gravesite.

Sugarloaf Mountain LO
This is a nice little hike within the Chiricahua National Monument. The gravel trail contours around the side of the mountain on the way to the top. Along the way, there are nice views of the pinnacles in the park.

The lookout cabin on top is still intact, and appears to still be used; however nobody was there when I was there. The lookout structure was built in 1934 by the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC).

This is a nice hike to do if you are visiting the Chiricahua NM.

I did not see anyone else until I was almost back to the TH -- someone was coming up the trail wearing sandals without any water. Thankfully the temperaure was 75 instead of 110!

Barfoot Lookout
The Barfoot LO is atop Buena Vista Peak at the north end of the Crest Trail.

I started from Barfoot Park and went on a marked trail that led up to the Crest Trail at a junction at a saddle south of Buena Vista Peak. I then took the Crest Trail up to the Barfoot LO at the summit.

The road to the Barfoot LO is a bit rocky toward the end of it, although I saw a sedan at the TH. However, I think that I'd at least want an SUV to make the drive.

The trail from Barfoot Park was slightly overgrown, but not bad. There was one place where I had to gingerly climb over an uprooted tree.

The Barfoot LO was built by the CCC in 1935. Sadly, it was engulfed by the Horseshoe Two Fire on June 2, 2011. All that remains of the LO is the concrete foundation.

There are nice views at the summit, so this one is worth checking out imho.

Johnny Ringo Gravesite
This is an easy nature walk to check out a bit of Arizona history.


Stats for each of the 3 hikes are below. The stats above are the sum of the 3.
Sugarloaf: 2.0 miles with 487 feet of AEG
Barfoot: 1.8 miles with 595 feet of AEG
Ringo: 0.1 miles with 7 feet of AEG
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Rock Creek Bootlegger Loop, AZ 
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markthurman53Triplogs 865
Hiking15.13 Miles 3,534 AEG
Hiking15.13 Miles   8 Hrs   54 Mns   2.18 mph
3,534 ft AEG   1 Hour   57 Mns Break15 LBS Pack
 
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Another one day hike in the Chiricahua Mountains. Again in Turkey Creek area. On the drive in just before sunrise I saw a group of about 30 turkeys in or along the road. Don't think I ever saw that many in a group except in the supermarket frozen section. Guajolote Creek is holding up to it's name. This was a 15 mile loop hike along the Rock Creek, Bootlegger, Rattlesnake and Saulsbury Trails. With 3600 feet of elevation gain I was pretty pooped after this hike. Most trails were in fair condition some requiring close scrutiny to keep from loosing the trail and one 1 mile section on the Rattlesnake Trail that headed from Witch Ridge to Rock Creek that was more of a controlled fall. If there was a trail here it is long gone. Nothing but a push through brush, some of which had really nasty thorns. Spent the evening when I got home pulling out the ones that went through my trousers and lodged in my leg. Great hike and was able to complete a few more trails I didn't get to the last time I was here. On the way out at the mouth of Turkey Canyon is the Grave site of Johnny Ringo, I stopped to check it out. Lots of history behind this grave, the internet has a lot of the story, some truth some speculation. Beautiful sunset on the drive home didn't stop to take pictures but it was amazing. I also looked for Anticrepuscular rays but I didn't see any, guess the conditions weren't right.

TURKEY PEN TRAIL #262
This is the second time on this trail in two weeks. Pleasure to be on a trail that actually looks and feels like a trail. No one else has been on the trail in the last week because my boot prints from last week were the only prints on the trail (not counting the deer and turkey prints that covered mine in one area). Turkey pen canyon still had a few pools of water but nothing running.

ROCK CREEK TRAIL #259
This is the middle upper portion that I had not done before. This section is from Turkey Pen Trail to Rock Saddle at the Bootlegger Trail. From Rock Saddle to the Crest Trail at Bootlegger Saddle I completed last summer. The section from Fife Canyon to Turkey Pen Trail I did last week. The only section left is from Fife Canyon to the National Forest Boundary (.75 miles). When I complete that last part I will write a description and post.

The trail from fife Canyon to the Rock Saddle is there but requires a little searching in spots. This trail follows along an old logging road but the road is not apparent except in a few places. The trail follows the creek or along side it and is marked fairly well with cairns where it enters or exits the creek. This canyon along the creek was not affected by the fires so dead fall other than normal is minimal, the only exception is the upper portion before hitting Rock Saddle. Rock Creek had pools in sections and running water also sporadically.

Bootlegger Trail #257
This hike covers the Bootlegger Trail from Rock Saddle to the Rattlesnake Trail. I completed the upper portion from Rock Saddle to the Crest trail at Rustler park last summer. I will write a description for this trail but one already exists but it shows the Bootlegger Trail going from Rustler Park to Bootlegger Saddle. Maybe I could call it Bootlegger Trail #257 2.

The Bootlegger trail is very faint most of the way but follow the GPS route and there should be no problem. Rock cairns mark the trail in strategic locations. Since this is a ridge trail the views south- West and North are excellent. Aiding in the views is the fact that the north side of the ridge was heavily affected by fires so there are no trees to block the view. This trail ends at the Rattlesnake trail just below Rattle Rock Saddle.

RATTLESNAKE TRAIL #275 SOUTH
The Rattlesnake trail starts from the north in Pine Canyon and climbs up to a saddle on Witch Ridge at the junction of the Witch Ridge Trail #260 and the Bootlegger Trail #257. I completed this portion last week. This hike is from the ridge down to Rock Creek. The map shows a trail here but it is long gone. I followed the route for this one mile stretch but it was kind of pointless. I did notice when I was on track that in the middle portion I was following what looked like a trail but was so badly overgrown. The last portion I gave up trying to stay on track and just headed down toward Rock Creek. Lots of brush/trees and some kind of sticker bush with thorns from hell. Didn't notice till I got home that when I felt my leg and there were dozens of little thorns embedded in my skin. Time to break out the jewelers glasses and tweezers.

Was planning on doing a description for this trail as the one posted shows the Rattlesnake Trail heading up to Rock Saddle. The Rattle Snake Trail actually heads up to the ridge from Pine Canyon and then heads back down to Rock Creek. Not sure I want to post a hike for a portion of trail that doesn't exist anymore, unless it was for historical reference.

SAULSBURY TRAIL #263

Both the Saulsbury #263 and the Saulsbury Connector Trail #263A are in good condition. The connector trail is a little vague at first from rock creek but just go up. This trail soon becomes quite obvious and is marked with cairns occasionally. The connector trail is very steep, no switchbacks, it just sees where it wants to get and goes there directly. 500 feet in .4 miles. Smokers night want to consider an alternate route, it's a lung burner. Luckily it is only .4 miles long.

The Saulsbury Trail from Saulsbury Saddle is a little steep if going up but then the complete trail from Turkey Creek to the Crest Trail has to go up 3000 feet in 5 miles. There was a little water in lower Saulsbury Canyon near what looked like a spring but other than that was dry. The sign at the trail head in Turkey Canyon is spelled wrong (Saulsberry) but other than that was in good condition. Plenty of parking at the trail head.

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Johnny Ringo GravesiteTucson, AZ
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Long weekend in the Chiricahua’s and we started it with a trip to Johnny Ringo’s grave site. It’s on the west side of the range in Turkey Creek. The gravesite is on private property but setup for access to the public. Even Frank got to see site. Nice spot and cool piece of history to see!
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Johnny Ringo GravesiteTucson, AZ
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Johnny Ringo GravesiteTucson, AZ
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If you know the history, it's interesting. If you don't it's still interesting. Lee didn't visit, so I'm pretty sure this will help me in the miles/aeg race. :y:
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Mormon Canyon Loop - ChiricahuaTucson, AZ
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So today was the day that I thot I was gonna attempt a 12 mile hike with serious elevation, for me anyway. So wrong Chiricahua breath! I realized after the first 2 miles and gosh knows how much elevation gain, the later start, the lack of fuel in my body and the ominous weather, the chances weren't good. :(

This first four miles is a doozy :sweat: though incredible :D . It gets even more scenic the higher you get. I particularly liked the views toward the Dragoons where I had been two weeks earlier. And of course there's the view of the Peaks (Johnson, Monte Vista) to your south that attract your interest.

The trail got dicey in a couple sections. One time it was particularly tricky but come to find out, we had missed an immediate switchback which we noticed as we were making our way back across the side of the hill. Randy realized a couple times that he should have turned & I should have been paying more attention too :doh: instead of going straight so it's important that a person be mindful of these abrupt switchback turns. The wrong way had been properly blocked but with the fire and water and such, those road blocks had been moved around a bit and were quite subtle. But I don't mind a little scrambling so it was actually kind of fun.

Probably the 8) est part of this trek was when we got to the top of one of the switchbacks where we were treated to spectacular, almost 360 degree views. We took a 10 minute break here. Little did we know what a fantastic show we would get as we walked across the north side of the ridge. Though there was some burn, the greenery and the wildflowers above Ward Canyon and beyond were absolutely magnificent :y: . We were very happy hikers. Plus an added bonus, this was the level part of the hike for about 10 minutes. It was great.

Eventually you get back over to the south side of the ridge above Mormon Canyon and it's back to the up and up :sweat: . The up is not dramatic, it's just forever it seems. The weather would threaten from time to time so Randy wanted us to keep going steady. As we were walking along through some great wildflowers, I told Randy I wasn't gonna be able to do the entire hike. He had already given me two bailout routes and I told him, I wanted to take the bailout at Mormon Saddle and head down the canyon rather than try the ridge and the rest of the hike. We were fighting time and weather, I was fighting hunger at this point.

Eventually I kept plugging along and still managed to enjoy almost all of this ridgeline elevation except the 1/2 mile before we finally got into a more protected area where Randy timidly proclaimed there looked to be another corner to go around and I proclaimed, I had to eat :lol: . He agreed that this spot would work fine. It did turn out to be a scenic area with nice views across Ward Canyon toward the Saulsbury Crest Trail area and Anita Peak. It was nice to see some of the various peaks in the Chiricahuas in person. Here is the video from the Ridge part of the hike:
http://youtu.be/PxBAhXL6VVw

We ended up probably being about 1/4-1/3 mile from the Junction. I am glad we chose to have lunch where we did because I thot the views were much better. Next, it was all downhill :DANCE: as they say. This wasn't the easiest downhill but at least I didn't need as much lung power. It was here I was particularly glad Randy had done this part of the hike a few times last year as the trail was no where to be found in a couple cases :-k . Eventually of course, we would hook back up with the trail.

The scenery was so interesting especially the deeper we got into the canyon. And as we got deeper there were cairns that helped guide us as the trail would disappear again. We passed by some cool mossy covered rocks and trees. Randy told me we should be coming closer to the where the water suddenly appeared from under the rocks. Soon I hear him say, "I think the creek is just ahead". Less than one minute later we are struggling to get our jackets on as quickly as possible :o .
No, it wasn't the creek, it was a hail storm :lol: (which I thot I was filming but apparently I didn't press the movie button never engaged). We would hear the creek flowing in about 10-15 minutes. So now if you're ever hiking with Randy and he says he thinks the creek is just ahead, grab your jacket. This moment, in spite of the hail, provided great levity.

I think because this is such a long and tightly-treed canyon, it gives off a sense of spookiness :scared: but especially on this kind of weather day. As we started to get closer to the bottom, we came across an area where I noticed debris up in the tree and then in another tree. At first we were surpised that the water would have flowed that high, well above us, but then realized the water had probably got caught between some very tall boulders and had pooled up. That must have been something. Here is the video from the Canyon part of the hike: http://youtu.be/PxBAhXL6VVw

Soon we were back at camp, having a beer, taking down the tarp and on the road but not before stopping at John Ringo's gravesite. I had read a little about him while doing my research for this hike. His death is very interesting. We were also lucky to enjoy a beautiful sunset all around us and lightning storms in the very far north and east as we made our way toward Benson on Dragoon Road via Sunizona. We had a great Mexican meal at a restaurant Randy wanted to try on main street before we parted ways in Tucson.
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