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 Tucson, AZ
Ramsey PeakTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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Mike_WTriplogs 528
Hiking17.84 Miles 4,251 AEG
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Left NW Tucson with Tim around 6 am. Drove my RWD Chevy Colorado up Carr Canyon but couldn't make it all the way to the top of the road because of the condition of the road. 4x4 is really needed on at least 2 sections near the top. We decided to park the truck on the side of the road and just hike from here. We knew it would add some extra miles but we felt we could make and had lamps which we needed for the final part of the hike. It ended up being 1.9 miles to Ramsey Vista campground at the top, so 3.8 miles additional had we been able to drive to the top of the road.

We starting hiking on Carr Canyon rd at 8 am. The elevation at our starting point was about 7,150 feet. We took the following route up.

walk up 1.9 miles of Carr canyon road
Comfort Spring Trail # 109
Hamburg Trail # 122
Pat Scott Canyon Trail # 123
Crest Trail # 103

There was a good amount of down hill hiking on the Comfort Spring Trail. At the junction with the Hamburg trail there were signs marking all trails that intersected. The Pat Scott Canyon trial was shaded by many pines and pleasant with a lot of soft pine needles making the trail easier to hike. We got to the saddle and junction with the Crest trail at around 11:50 am. Pat Scott North was about 1/4 mile North of us but we decided to stop at the saddle for lunch and a long well-deserved break. After lunch we continued on to Pat Scott North. I thought about hiking Pat Scott "South" on the way back if there was time. It was only about 1 extra mile out of the way and I wasn't sure if I even wanted to do it on this trip because this hike was going to be very long.

We continue North on the Crest trail. I summitted Pat Scott North which was only a few minute hike above the Crest trail. Tim stayed below since he already did this summit a few months before. I signed the registry, took some photos, and got back on the Crest trail heading North. We took this trail about 1/2 mile North of Pat Scott North peak. We knew we would need to head East somewhere in this area to get to Ramsey peak. We didn't see any signs or obvious trails but we did see a barbed wire fence that separated Forest service land with the Huachuca Military base land. We turned right here and followed the fence line up for a while. We eventually saw a use trail or perhaps an old unmaintained trail heading in the direction of Ramsey peak. We followed that for a while, losing the trail at times and picking up other trails that led in the same basic direction. Because we saw multiple trails we thought these must be animal trails. In some areas we saw what looked like bear prints in soft dirt areas leading around the mountain or up. In some places we found ourselves bushwhacking but realized we were better off staying North of the ridgeline, so we dropped back down. There were only a few places where we could actually see Ramsey peak because there was so much tree cover blocking the way.

Eventually we found ourselves at the actual summit. There was a rock pile with a registry and some great views to the South. To the Southeast we were able to see Carr peak and the highest point in the range, Miller peak, which was behind Carr. We had already logged 8.9 miles to this point and knew by the time we finished this hike, we would be at nearly 18 miles. After signing the registry and getting our photos/videos and taking a long break, we finally left the summit around 3 pm. We had a long way to go to get back but we were prepared with head lamps.

On the way back, we stopped for a few short water breaks and a longer break back at the Pat Scott canyon trail junction around 4:30 pm. Then, we continued heading down the Pat Scott canyon trail. After a while, we saw some water flow in the canyon and some larger pools. We were getting low on water so we decided to stop to filter some more drinking water. I filled up an entire 1/2 gallon jug in a few minutes and filter about 1 quart for Tim. We keep moving on. It was very humid in the canyon with no breeze at all, which slowed our pace. At around 6:25 we intersected with the Hamburg trail and then a few minutes later reached the Comfort Spring trail. The Comfort Spring trail was a bit rocky, and there was a lot of uphill to do. We were already tired at this point, but we kept pressing forward, taking a lot of short water breaks on the way. We turned our headlamps on right before 8 pm and had another half mile of trail to do before reaching the road / Ramsey Vista campground area. Nobody was camped up here today. We didn't see a single person on the trails all day.

After getting to the road, my headlamp went out and we only had 1 light between the 2 of us. We were incredible tired at this point, but we still had 1.9 miles left of road hiking. We took our time in the dark, and took a few needed water breaks. We could feel the humidity, even as late as 9 pm. We eventually made it back to my truck around 9:20 pm. It was a very long day.

After the hike we stopped at McDonald's and each got a $5 McDouble combo meal + an extra McDouble. I haven't had McDonald's food in years and was honestly impressed by the relatively good value in the Bidenonmics era. The $5 combo meal came with 1 McDouble, a small fry, 4 chicken nuggets, and a drink. The extra McDouble was something like $3.39. The entire bill for both of us was under $16 which was a surprise. But, my "go to" burger is still the old reliable and customizable flame broiled BK Whopper!

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Distance (round trip) = 17.84 miles
AEG = 4,251 feet
Strava moving time = 9 hrs 37 mins
Strava elapsed time = 13 hrs 24 mins
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My goal was to reach Ramsey Peak. I started from the Sunnyside Canyon Trailhead. It was a beautiful trail with long stretches of flowing water, calling birds, plenty of shade and few wind falls. The first three miles were a gradual grade except for what they call cardiac hill and the last two miles were switchbacks to the Crest Trail. On the crest, I took a detour to Pat Scott Peak, which wasn’t a problem, but later I did lose some time trying to figure out my location as there are evidently two Pat Scott Peaks, one labeled on the map and the other nearby and higher. After that I made my way on the Crest Trail to the fort’s Gate 2. This portion of the trail was faint with numerous wind falls. So far so good and I started on the “trail” to Ramsey Peak, which essentially follows the ridge saddle to the peak. As others have mentioned, it begins as a series of smuggler trails and eventually becomes a true bushwhack event. I alternated between rock-hopping/progressing through thick brush on the top of the ridge or trying to parallel it on the steep slick slope to the side. About ½ mile short of the peak, I decided that I had better turn around as I was getting short of water and time and returned to the Sunnyside Canyon Trailhead.
Got to say that I really enjoyed the Sunnyside Canyon Trail and found it to be much more of a “shady side” trail than some of the other local trails where you hike through stretches cleared or charred from fire.
I have not given up trying to reach Ramsey Peak. If there is a better way to bushwhack my way up to it, please let me know. I have seen some suggestions. One is to take the Pomona Mine trail and bushwhack from there. Its evidently shorter, more like 10 miles out and back, but I have heard that trail is a tough hike. Saw someone had used Scheelite Canyon trail, which evidently shorter than my route but is washed out and follows the same ridge to Ramsey. Similarly, the hike from the campground near Carr Peak uses that ridge and you need to drive to the campground. From looking at the topo map, it also looks as if a person could bushwhack from the Brown Canyon trail up one of the ridges to Ramsey. I am interested in seeing your thoughts. Thanks.
 
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 Ahwatukee, AZ
Ramsey PeakTucson, AZ
Tucson, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking13.19 Miles 3,752 AEG
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Got started a little after 0700 from Ramsey Vista and headed down Comfort Springs Trail. The trail was soft from recent rains, but not muddy. It’s a pleasant walk downhill, with nice views. At Hamburg Mine, we got onto Pat Scott Canyon Trail and started heading back uphill. Not too hot, but very humid.

At the Crest Trail, we headed north after a short break. At the end of the Crest Trail, we veered east, following the barbed wire fence. The off trail kind of sucks, the soil on the north side of the ridge is very loose and you sink into it. Following the top of the ridge is a vegetation nightmare. When I was here four years ago, the was a faint path on the north side of the ridge, but that has pretty much disappeared. Encountered one large, angry rattler not too far from the summit—the damn thing seemed to want to chase me for a moment while I circled wide around it.

Another break at the summit, then headed back down. Clouds were gathering by the time we reached the Crest Trail, and it was cloudy with frequent rumbles of thunder for the last five miles. The rain held off until we reached the trailhead. Fun hike, but I probably won’t bother with Ramsey Peak again.
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 Phoenix, AZ
Carr - Miller - Ramsey Loop, AZ 
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Hiking22.79 Miles 5,900 AEG
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Second time in the Huachucas. Threw together a loop that'd see more Crest and get me on top of Ramsey and the brothers Pat Scott. Had a go from the Sawmill TH around 6am. Road is probably doable in low clearance, but I wouldn't if it were my investment.

Sawmill Trail up to Carr Peak Trail. Really just a connector for those of us looking to save a few minutes driving time. Most reliable spring en route was putting out a decent flow and should be for a couple months more.

Carr Peak trail swings up the mountain quickly. Good tread, least tree cover on the day. Carr Peak views hazy in the early morning. Offers the best angle on Miller and time to wonder about the ubiquitous zeppelin down in the foothills.

Down Carr to Crest then out and back to Miller. More good tread this time through the surviving forest of fir and pine. Up the ridge steeper and steeper as it nears the Miller Peak Trail. Passes through a huge, young grove of aspen. There is a lot to see along this loop come autumn, expanding my search for this year outside of Ramsey Canyon. Half the elevation gain is out of the way by the time Miller summit comes. Best views of day, apart from maybe Ramsey.

Crest all the way back to the Carr jct. Clouds started to coalesce over the mountains. Kept going to the Hamburg jct and the track became unfamiliar. Perfect weather for the money stretch of Crest Trail. From Granite Mountain to the end of Crest at the Fort Huachuca border, I'm not sure there's better hiking in the state. It is as good as anywhere. Shady in the fir, cold breeze, and warm intermittent sunlight. Will never take Wisconsin Canyon down again, it is so worth it to loop around to Pat Scott Canyon.

Got Pat Scott #1 on the way to Ramsey and #2 on the way back. #1 is several times better than #2, which is marked as Pat Scott Peak on most maps. Weather increasingly dramatic as I started the climb up Ramsey.

The topos I looked through differed on the whether or not there is a trail to Ramsey, and it turned out there isn't one. Ascending Ramsey was probably the hardest part of the loop. It is easiest to summit if you stay north of the ridgeline, otherwise it is a good bushwhack. Unfortunately, this involves trespassing onto military property. If stepping 50ft into the seldom traveled upper reaches of military land is a deal breaker, I would say the peak cannot be summited using the ridge I did. The only person I met all day was on the summit tinkering with a ham radio when I got there. He came straight up the ridgeline from the preserve, a shorter, more difficult, and legal route. I asked what he made of the military border, and he shrugged. There are no signs marking it, no signs forbidding passage, only a fence line that is broken where the deer cross and somebody has marked the route by hanging reflective yellow flags from tree limbs.

Pat Scott Canyon back down. Just as good as Wisconsin Canyon. Firs, pines, oaks, maples. Really might make a good fall loop if the timing is right. The canyons in the Huachucas steep as anything, but Pat Scott makes easy work of the quick descent.

After that Hamburg for about 5 minutes before Comfort Springs. Beautiful woods on the backside of Carr. Second hardest part of the day was ascending Comfort springs and getting back out of the canyon. Once down around the Hamburg Mine, there was still ~1200 feet to gain. Pushed through that last section looping back around. Only saw the one hiker, not too busy up there. Temps from 40s-70s.
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Some on Carr Peak, some near Miller Peak. Nothing good.

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Eureka Ramsey Peak Loop, AZ 
Eureka Ramsey Peak Loop, AZ
 
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I wanted to check out the existence of two trails, The Eureka Canyon Trail #129 and the Crest Trail #103 from Fort Huachuca Gate #2 to the Scotia canyon Road at Gate #7. Started at the Sunnyside Canyon Trail Head along the Sunnyside/Scotia canyon Road. The Eureka Trail starts .5 miles in on the Sunnyside Canyon Trail where it crosses Sunnyside Creek for the first time. The trail is not marked at this junction but there is a Miller Peak Wilderness sign. The Eureka Trail follows an old road that goes to the Eureka Mine. The sign for the Eureka Canyon Trail is .1 miles in on this road. This trail is a steady uphill climb all the way to its junction with the Sunnyside Trail 3.5 miles up. At about half way in the trail leaves the road and heads uphill to the ridge just south of Eureka Peak. There is a rock cairn marking this location. The road continues on to the Eureka Mine about .2 miles. There is mine along the trail just below Eureka Peak and looks like an off shoot of the Eureka Mine that is about 300 feet below. The trail continues along the ridge to another mine site at 3.1 miles in. This is actually the site of a shack that is part of the Copper Glance Mine that is another .2 miles to the southeast. At the junction with the shack is the Copper Glance Mine trail that comes up from the Sunnyside Trail below. The Eureka mine trail continues its climb up the ridge and at 3.5 miles joins the Sunnyside Canyon Trail on its way to the Crest Trail. This trail is easy to follow and surprisingly in good condition for a trail that doesn’t get a lot of use. Good vistas to the north from various places along the trail. Huachuca Peak being the main attraction.

From here I headed up the Sunnyside Trail to the Crest Trail. I headed north along the Crest trail past the Pat Scott Trail junction then over to Gate 2 of Fort Huachuca. There is no gate there just a barbed wire fence, with an opening where supposedly the gate was. This is where I had to change my plans. There was no sign of a crest trail going down to Scotia Canyon Road. There was a trail heading to the northeast that I took a short distance and decided it was the Scheelite Canyon Trail and I definitely didn’t want to take this one. Not this time. Continued the search on the ridge but never found any signs of a trail. Changed my plans and headed back the way I came but took the Sunnyside Canyon Trail instead of the Eureka back to the start point. I will have to hit the crest trail from below someday to see where it connects up on the ridge. I can possibly do a loop with the sawmill Canyon Trail as part of it.

I decided to first hit Ramsey Peak, might as well since I am already up here. There is no trail to the peak but it is fairly easy trek up to the peak. The key is to stay off the ridge just to the north and east, this avoids the thick oak shrubs/trees that are on the ridge. There are numerous faint user trails along the way, find one and stay on it as long as possible. If you lose it find another, it makes the going a lot easier. The Peak is nothing spectacular, if you can get to a point that is not choked with brush there are great views over Pat Scott Canyon and the peaks of the Huachuca Mountains to the south. There appears to have only been two others on this peak this year according to the log. The peak is composed of a limestone that is Paleozoic in age and it was thrust over the Younger Mesozoic rocks. This is quite common in the mountains of southern Arizona. Whetstones are the best example. This occurred when Arizona was under compression. The basins sank when Arizona was later under tension causing the mountains to be a jumbled mess they are now. This is so exciting!

The rest of the hike down was uneventful, the trip down Sunnyside Canyon is scenic with still a trickle of water in the canyon from Sunnyside Spring on down. I ran into two separate Arizona Trail through hikers. If anyone has more info on the whereabouts of the crest Trail from gate 2 to gate 7 let me know.

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Ramsey PeakTucson, AZ
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LindaAnnTriplogs 2,600
Hiking13.20 Miles 3,907 AEG
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Ramsey Peak was on Kelly's list, and it had looked intriguing to me when we were in the Huachucas a few weeks ago, so we decided to get this one checked off. We needed a few more SoMo regulars, so invited Dallin along, and he brought Alex too. Once we met at the trailhead, we started out on Comfort Springs trail. All the downhill at the beginning is nice, but is a reminder that we have to come back out, and up, the same way. Pat Scott Canyon Trail was very nice, with running water, lots of green vegetation, and some nice views above the switchbacks at the top. Seeing the old mining equipment was a bonus for me. Once at the Crest trail, we headed north, then off trail up to Ramsey. The first part was pretty clear and easy, but the brush thickened as we followed the ridgeline. Once we were finally at the summit, there were limited views due to all the vegetation, but we were able to look out to the south from above the cliffs, and found a nice spot out of the wind to enjoy lunch. On the way down, we found a use trail (clearly used by illegals) just below the north side of the ridge, and were able to avoid nearly all of the brush we had fought through on the way up. we made it back to the Crest trail relatively quickly, then retraced our steps all the way back to the trailhead. Nice day, temps were great, and the breeze was refreshing. Fun group to hike with.
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Ramsey PeakTucson, AZ
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first visited the huachucas with @rwstorm four years ago
we hiked carr peak and made an attempt on ramsey peak
late start and stormy weather cut that short, but ramsey has been on my list ever since
joined linda and nick, with dallin and his friend alex meeting us at the trailhead
we set out around 0830, heading down comfort springs trail, then up pat scott canyon trail
hit the intersection with the crest trail, which was as far as randy and i got last time
took the ridgeline back to the north, hitting pat scott peak on the way (at least that's what the topo says)
off trail to ramsey peak, with some bushwhacking as we tried to stay on the ridge
summit views were obscured by vegetation except for the dropoff to the south
very windy at that point, but sheltered just below for a snack break
ramsey looks better from below than from the summit, but still a worthy peak
found a better route down, avoiding most of the bushwhacking
retraced our steps, especially enjoying the ascent back up comfort springs trail
fun to see the huachucas again - love the southern arizona sky islands
miller peak now goes to the top of the wish list :)
clear skies, good temps, a stiff breeze and a nice crew of south mountain regulars for this effort
nice to hear a little about dallin's pct hike, meet alex, and hike with nick again
another good peak with linda, too
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Ramsey PeakTucson, AZ
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This one's been on the radar since our last Hauchuca visit, so we recruited a few good folks who wanted to make the trip, as well. Kelly, Dallin and Alex all joined. The initial descent down Comfort Springs allows for that dramatic view of Ramsey, and its sharp contrast of green spilling over white cliffs. Carr Peak had some fall color but once we were down in the canyons, it was mostly green with a light flow in the creeks. Pat Scott Trail was new for me. It's a nice one. Lush canyon walking, mining history and then open views as we approached the ridgeline. Crest Trail is always a treat with it's ridge walking, views and pine trees. The off-trail to the peak wasn't too bad. We stayed on the highest part of the ridge, which is rocky and has the most brush. After a summit lunch and some photo ops, we started back down. This time we stayed low and took the smuggler's route, which was an actual use path and stayed out of the brush. Once back on the ridge, we retraced our steps and cruised on down to the Comfort Springs junction for the home stretch and final uphill of the day. Great day to be in the Hauchuca's. Weather was perfect and enjoyable from start to finish. It was nice to get Dallin back, catch up with Alex and get in a nice hike with Kelly. Linda was good company, too. Overall, a great group and a Sunday well-spent.
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Ramsey PeakTucson, AZ
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Got invited on this one as my first real hike back in Arizona after my PCT adventure this summer. I was excited to get back to the Huachucas and explore more of the range. I found it kind of poetic in a way, as I would be returning very close to the Mexican border after running away from it for 4.5 months. :)

Me and Alex met Linda, Nick, and Kelley at the top of Carr Canyon Rd in the morning. We were a little late. My phone's battery was dead and not charging, so I wrote up some directions before I left which were pretty simple: take I-10 to SR-92, take SR-92 south, turn right on Carr Canyon Rd. I still managed to take a wrong turn up RAMSEY Canyon Rd for a little while before realizing it wasn't the same road I had been up before for Carr - Miller. :lol:

We started down Comfort Springs Trail and connected up with Pat Scott Canyon. I thought Pat Scott Canyon was the highlight of the trip. Vegetation and running water all along the canyon. I particularly liked the section just below the ridge before you hit Crest Trail. The tall grasses mixed with the spaced out Ponderosa right before the crest of the ridgeline.

We continued down Crest Trail with excellent views as expected, then ditched the trail and headed for Ramsey Peak. The off trail is easy going at first, but about a half a mile before the top it gets pretty brushy. Me and Alex followed along the ledge of large boulders that make up the ridgeline. It still might be faster to keep left and stay in the Ponderosa where it is less brushy.

On the summit we enjoyed some lunch. Since there are a lot of trees on this summit you don't get a wide field of view, but what you can see from a rock outcropping on the summit is still pretty good. We took the lower route with the Ponderosa on the way back to Crest Trail and stumbled upon a clear use path, a blanket, and some pieces of garbage.

A nice day hike with comfortable weather. All trails in good conditions.
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Pat Scott Peak and Ramsey Peak, AZ 
Pat Scott Peak and Ramsey Peak, AZ
 
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I haven’t done many peaks in the Huachucas and I’ve been patiently waiting for the weather to cooperate before knocking off some more of the ‘big gun’ peaks in this range. With overcast skies and wind [but not rain] in the forest, I put my trust in my cell phone’s weather app as I headed for higher ground. As long as there were no surprise storms/showers, the nippy conditions were absolutely perfect as far as I was concerned… provided I don’t get dangerously cold, I’d take being miserably cold any day over better weather + buzzing bees. Miraculously, despite some very strong wind gusts in a handful of places, [including one atop Ramsey Peak that literally almost sent me to my pumpkin], I was perfectly comfortable on the 8,700’+ peak, [without even breaking out all of my layers]. To top it off, I didn’t see or hear a single bee. :y:

As far as my adventure was concerned, it was definitely a ‘game-day decision’ type of deal in more ways than one. Since I’d routed up a bunch of options in terms of the peaks on my lists as well as potential starting points, I really didn’t decide on what I was doing until I got to Sierra Vista. Eager to hit the trails after personal biz once again resulted in another late start, [although luckily not quite as late as the previous day’s 3 PM launch…], I started with what would have been one of the closer options: the Fort Huachuca side of the range. I’ve seen a few routes where other HAZ’ers have launched from areas inside of the Reservation Boundary, but I wasn’t quite sure how the whole thing worked. The guards at the entrance were very helpful and explained that after filling out some paperwork and clearing a background check [which they said takes only a few minutes], I’d be free to launch from any TH within the boundary. Problem was, I had my gun with me, which is not allowed inside; and given how late of a start I’d gotten, I didn’t want to take the time to find a gun shop that would hold it. Thus, I continued along Highway 90.

Chumley recently posted a very fun-looking route [ triplog ] that incorporates both Pat Scott & Ramsey Peaks, and I had saved his route in the event I decided on those peaks, [which definitely looked to be the next best/closest option]. Thus, I decided to head for the launch point, which was up Carr Canyon Road. However, [recalling from the topo that the Ramsey Canyon Trail looked to be another viable starting point], I couldn’t resist turning up Ramsey Canyon Road since that was even closer than Carr Canyon Road. In terms of public access, Ramsey Canyon Road ends at The Nature Conservancy, and for only a *$3 fee [*as a resident of Santa Cruz County], it would have made for a perfect start point… minus the fact that the parking lot is gated shut at 4 PM and it was already almost 11 AM…

Rather than backtrack to Carr Canyon Road and risk cutter things even closer in terms of the time that would be left to complete this kind of a hike, I phoned a Bed & Breakfast type place in the area and asked if I could pay them to park in their lot so I could get my hike in. They were super cool and agreed. Thus, I kicked things off up the Ramsey Canyon Trail. I won’t go into tons of detail since this trail is covered in full here, [ Ramsey Canyon Trail ] , but a couple of thoughts:

1. The Nature Conservancy has done one hell of an awesome job in preserving this area; and the way they’ve built the trail around the ‘exhibits’ [without making it look or feel trashy/touristy] is really superb. As far as I’m concerned, the $3 / $6 fee is well worth it just to see the beginning part of the trail with the exhibits.

2. The waterfalls & pools in Ramsey Canyon are sensational… in fact, I thought they were more beautiful than those in Ash Creek in the Galiuros.

After heading up the Ramsey Canyon Trail for a little under 3 miles, I intersected with Chumley’s tracks at the junction of the Ramsey Canyon Trail & Pat Scott Canyon Trail, [at which point, I planned to follow his route up the Pat Scott Canyon Trail and onto the Crest Trail; then take a very short side trip up to Pat Scott Peak; and finally continue on to Ramsey Peak]. However, shortly after heading up the Pat Scott Canyon Trail, I encountered some very annoying deadfall, [go figure, my attempt to stay as close to the trail as possible while circumventing the deadfall resulted in a black & blue shin… yet my epic bushwhack return, [including a Class 4 climb down a near vertical rock slab], did not even result in a slight scratch.

Shortly after the deadfall was the section of trail with the switchbacks, and toward the top of that, I ended up off-trail thanks to some snow that concealed the correct route. At that point, I consulted Route Scout and saw that I was very close to the summit of Pat Scott Peak; in fact, the grassy terrain leading toward the peak looked a lot more favorably that the snowy slope I’d have to head for if I wanted to get back onto the trail. Thus, I headed for the peak. Chumley’s description sums it up nicely… and, in addition to lack of prominence, I also found the views to be lacking, thanks to being blocked by trees in most directions. The unnamed prominent points en route to Ramsey Peak had much better views. Nonetheless, it was still fun to flip through the register atop Pat Scott Peak; which, as Chumley mentioned, doesn’t have much space left to sign; [and people were signing all out of order]. On the rare occasions when this kind of thing happens, [i.e. no blank pages AND people signing out of order], I like to sign the first page and did not hesitate to do so here. I’ll have to start carrying a small notebook [and writing implement] again.

Shortly after Pat Scott Peak, the wind really picked up [or maybe I just stepped into the line of fire since it seemed to be quite windy the whole day]. I tend to fare worse than average when it comes to handling cold temps; so it was a pleasant surprise to feel comfortable/toasty at 8,500’+ on a windy Winter day, [although I did need to put on my hat, gloves, and 2nd fleece jacket]. Luckily the routes along the ridge leading to Ramsey Peak often ran just North of the top of the ridge, which meant almost complete protection from the wind. Due to some brush in the area of the highpoint, [along with several boulders that appeared to be about the same height], the highest physical point was not entirely clear; however, the register was actually sitting out on top of a small summit cairn/rock pile. It looked to be in a secure position [shielded from larger rocks on other sides], so after signing, I left it how I found it and did not attempt to cover it. There is a main looking notebook with more recent sign-ins as well as several loose sheets of paper, which appear to be older sign-ins for the most part. Also inside of the main glass register is a very small container that looked like a pill bottle. The pages within that container were jammed in pretty good, [and I did not want to damage them by attempting to take them all out], but I was able to get the first one out with ease and it goes back to 1989. The views atop Ramsey Peak were just awesome; and it was extremely nice to find several spots that were shielded from the wind by the surrounding brush / other boulders where I could enjoy the views.

As for my epic bushwhack return… it was really a spur of the moment decision; and I can’t help but smile at just how awesome it turned out. Initially, I fully intended to take the trail back; but after reaching the summit, the thought of: retracing my steps over the super windy sections of ridge, then trying to follow the trail through the snowy section, AND finally circumventing the section with the downed trees had really lost its appeal… thus, I opted for a ‘blind’ bushwhack descent, heading NE off Ramsey Peak. Not only had I not even drawn out a route to follow, I hadn’t even been paying very good attention on my approach to determine if such a return was something I even wanted to attempt. All I remember from looking at the terrain in the beginning was tons of craggy / cliffy areas… yet after my Galiuro trip, I figured I’d be good to go as long as the topo contours weren’t touching. :D

Aside from one Class 4, [which very likely could’ve been circumvented altogether had I had the patience to investigate the terrain beyond 10-20 feet on either side of me], everything else was smooth sailing and a total blast. There were a few very fun Class 3’s, but surprisingly little climbing/scrambling, relative to how cliffy/craggy the surrounding terrain was. Given that bouldering is my forte, even the Class 4 climb proved to be fun… although thanks to forgetting to remove my gun from the side pocket before chucking my pack down the mini-cliff in front of me, my heart was definitely skipping beats as I negotiated the climb; and it was a frightful 1-2 minutes when I recovered my pack, only to find that the gun was not with it. VERY luckily, I somehow managed to find my gun [and relatively quickly, given that it ended up about 20-30 feet further downhill from where my pack had landed]. I’ll never make that mistake again!

Despite some very steep slopes, there was little brush, almost no thorny vegetation, and soft, good-gripping dirt footing, all of which made for a very pleasant descent. To top things off, the routes blazed by the deer, bear, and our International friends definitely made things even easier. The Brown Canyon Trail #115 is not shown on CalTopo; and, [not having know the trail was there], I decided to contour out of the shallow gulley I’d been in for most of my descent and up onto the ridge to the East of it in order to start scanning the terrain for an ideal spot to drop back down into Ramsey Canyon & rejoin the Ramsey Canyon Trail. Unlike my previous two trips to the Huachucas, I’m REALLY glad Route Scout topo was cooperating on this one; having the topo contours was very helpful to say the least. Very shortly before reconnecting with the Ramsey Canyon Trail, I suddenly came out on the Brown Canyon Trail #115, which was definitely a surprise since the topo does not show this trail. Once on the trail, the rest of the way back was smooth sailing; and I even made it back in time to check out some of the neat ‘exhibits’ along the beginning of the Ramsey Canyon Trail. All in all, it was a fantastic adventure to say the least.

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1st trip
After Saturday's big day, there were several options for Sunday. A handful of us decided on Ramsey. Karl and I got started around 7:30, while Belinda and some of the Tucson crew took a more leisurely morning and headed out a little after us.

The first 2.5 miles down Comfort Springs to the Wisconsin/Hamburg/Pat Scott junction breezed by in about an hour and was mostly shaded. Rain the day before assured wet grass and subsequently wet feet. Gaiters and waterproof boots would have prevented that.

Next was the 1800 foot ascent of Pat Scott in just over 2 miles that took almost an hour and a half. I really like the Pat Scott trail. The creek was flowing most of the way, and the switchbacks at the top are beautifully constructed at a nice grade. I saw a deer as I reached the crest -- impressive since bow season opened on Friday. After a short break, we headed across the crest toward Huachuca Gate #2. Along the way we took the short side trip to Pat Scott Peak where there was inexplicably a register full of SAHC names. This "peak" has a prominence of approximately the length of my forearm. Not sure how this is a destination worthy of a register. :-k

(In fact, I believe that Randy says it's not really Pat Scott Peak at all ... the topo maps have it mismarked, while the true Pat Scott Peak is the 8,715 foot peak .35miles SSE of this one. Randy's name was in this register. We didn't add ours as all the pages are full. Maybe I need to visit the other one sometime?)

A short distance later we arrived at Huachuca Gate #2. There's no gate. The barbed wire fence is frequently broken, and there is no indication that you are entering a military base. :scared:

We chose to follow a route generally along the ridgeline, which is where the fence goes. Interestingly, the Fort Huachuca boundary as marked on the map is not where the fence is. Either way, we decided to take a wide traverse around the north side of the first peak along the ridge, saving a few feet of gain. The views down Scheelite onto the base were great! Once beyond the first peak, the vegetation thickened but there was a use path that was pretty easy to follow.

Farther up, the ridge follows a sort of knife edge, with a sheer drop to the South into Pat Scott Canyon. The vegetation made it impossible to stay on the edge. The best route was below the ridge on the left in the forested canopy below. There were signs of use, but no real defined path.

At the 500 foot audible Route Scout announcement, the first rain drop fell. It had been sunny up until now, with some clouds beginning to build over the peaks to the south. Upon reaching the peak it started to rain. Hard. The vegetation is very thick and overgrown up here. There's no real route. I found a glass jar with the register, but didn't take the time to read any names or sign it. Then it started to hail. This was a repeat of yesterday on Miller where it rained and hailed for about an hour before clearing up.

I didn't think the register was at the true summit so I pushed a bit farther. I passed a solar panel and an attached relay antenna. Military or cartel? :-k The crap got too thick. Everything was wet and it was raining harder. I had to get the rest of my rain gear on. Karl and I were disappointed we would not get to sit on the peak and enjoy our summit brew. That's when the first clap of thunder hit. pumpkin. Yesterday had been thunder-free. We were not where we wanted to be. Huddled under a tree sheltering from hail just a few feet below a ridge and a prominent 8700 foot peak. :scared:

The trip back was miserable. It rained and hailed. Lightning flashed and thunder clapped. We abandoned the ridge and traversed the steep slope on the north side. It was hard work. But we just kept moving with the goal of finally dropping into the lower elevations of Pat Scott Canyon just two miles ahead. Upon reaching the Crest Trail we contemplated staying in the lower terrain and cutting the corner and dropping into Pat Scott off trail. A short excursion in that direction seemed promising at first but turned ugly. The flash-bang rain and hail continued. We actually decided to head back up to the crest. With less than a mile to go we figured it was the best bad option we had.

Finally off the crest and dropping quickly into Pat Scott, we felt a little better about things, but the thunder and lightning continued. Just when it seemed to be moving away, it would start somewhere new. We just plowed on. The water flow in Pat Scott was up. Crossings that were dry on our way up were running now. Layers of white hail remained in sheltered spots.

Normally the 600 foot climb up Comfort Springs is a killer at the end of the day. I was looking forward to it. The climb would help me warm up again. Somewhere along the climb it stopped raining. For the first time in 2 hours. Thunder still rumbled around us. We finally trudged back into camp, much to the relief of those waiting for us to return. They had been far enough behind to turn around before reaching the crest when the storm hit.

About 15 minutes later, the sky opened up again. I was glad to be in camp this time. :GB:

Great hike. I love the Huachucas. There's so much more here I want to explore. But I might puss out next time if there's even a chance of a thunderstorm in the forecast. :M2C:
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Pretty nice up on the crest and the military boundary above Scheelite.

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Probably at least 2qpm, but not quite a gallon. The springbox was full and clear.

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Some sections underground. Surface flow in 60-70% up to just below the crest.

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Flowing at the junction. Intermittent flow upstream.
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Chumley pretty much summed up the hike. Cold, wet, and some close lighting. Reaching the summit just as the storm hit we didn't have a chance to enjoy the views and relax. From that point it was game on to get down from the ridgeline and to a safer spot lower down the mountain. It also kept raining most of the way down so we kept moving to keep warm. On the plus side the Pat Scott Canyon Trail up to the Crest Trail was really nice with cool scenery all the way up canyon. Definitely a good option to combine this trail with the Crest Trail and the less visited sections of the western Huachuca's.
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Hike to a remote peak in the Huachuca Mountains. This peak has a very distinctive appearance with its sheer whitish south and east face. Grabs your attention. You have to work to get this one. Easiest approach is up Scheelite Canyon from Garden Canyon on Fort Huachuca, though we did it from the end of the road in Carr Canyon utilizing Comfort Spring, Hamburg, Pat Scott, and a section the Crest Trail to get to the breakaway point by gate #2 at the fort boundary. From there you work northeast along a route, then head east just below the north side of the ridgeline over to the high point. The mileage and AEG shown are estimates that are probably in the ballpark. As you can see from the photos, it makes a great autumn hike, as there are plenty of maples in the canyons from either approach.
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