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Weaver's - Base of the NeedlePhoenix, AZ
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This Meetup was far more adventurous than the norm. Even parked right up front at Peralta TH! Guess the state of the road following the storms and threatening skies kept many away. 😀

The majority of the sign ups bolted leaving only the most motivated. With water flowing along the trail and the fewest people I've seen here, off to a fabulous start. The saddle was only the beginning for us.

Next was the steep climb up Weaver's as far as 1 can venture without gear. Then formed an extended loop traversing rarely used trails. RF needed through entire stretches. Was scheduled to be Peralta-1st Water yet ended up being better! 😎
 
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Weaver's Needle SummitPhoenix, AZ
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Weaver's Summit has been on my to-do list for years, but I've kept putting it off until I could go with someone more experienced. But this weekend, I just decided to go with my own experience ....

I did invite a friend to come along, though he has less experience than I do.

On to the adventure ...

We arrived at Peralta TH around 7 am. Still a fair number of spots in the main parking lot at that time, but I was a little surprised how busy it was that early--not just at the TH but all along Peralta Road.

That said, on the trail itself, there wasn't much traffic at that time. We made it to Fremont Saddle and took a few photos before dropping into East Boulder Canyon. I hadn't hiked through here since the fire. Lots of regeneration, but it's going to be awhile for the larger stuff.

We turned off the trail at a cairned spot, even though it was a bit sooner than my downloaded RS route. It worked out fine, and as we began to scramble up to the base of the Needle, we gradually veered toward and then joined the HAZ route. On the return, we took the HAZ route all the way back to the trail, which I would recommend (though curiously, there is no cairn where the HAZ route connects to Peralta trail).

There is a nice, large saguaro on the side of the climb that provides a good landmark for the approximate route. I'll include in the photos.

The scramble is steep, but not a bushwhack, and it went by faster than I thought it would--particularly with all of our climbing gear and rope.

Arriving at the base of the notch/saddle between the north and south Needle summits, we encountered a group of three that just finished descending after spending the night on top, and another group of 3 gearing up for the climb.

As per the description, there are 4 pitches. The first two are a continuous climb up the initial chute. At the top of pitch 1 are bolted anchors and chain, which have replaced what used to be a pipe in the rock. The group in front of us roped up for pitch one. We just scrambled up this section, and I didn't view it as particularly technical.

As it turned out, pitch 2 was the only one we roped up for. I lead climbed it, placing 3 anchors along the way. At my experience level, it was plenty technical :scared: . I was happy to arrive at the chockstone, which I navigated underneath. Next time, I'll try the right or left side, both of which are more technical.

I top-roped belayed my partner's climb from the bolted anchor with rings above the chockstone. As he was coming up, a group of two more arrived at the base of the climb.

The third pitch is right next to the chockstone, and involves a short, 15-foot (ish) climb that navigates around a slightly protruding rock face on the left. Because the protrusion forces you right--towards the exposure--it can be slightly unnerving without protection, but with one or two moves, it's not a problem. We free climbed it. Just above pitch 3 was an anchor (webbing and a ring), which we used to short rappel on the way back down.

From the top of pitch 3 to the bottom of pitch 4 is a semi-lengthy--and fun!--scramble. Some exposure, but not crazy.

The bottom of pitch 4 is just beyond the slick rock face over which we would rappel on the way down.

As noted, pitch 4 has significant exposure, but is easily climb-able, due to the plentiful jugs--great foothold and handholds. As long as you don't let the head games get to you, it's basically like climbing a ladder. We free climbed this one as well.

At the top of pitch four, the bolted/chained anchor for the rappel is just off to the right, and there is a final, relatively gentle scramble to the summit.

The group of 3 in front of us were starting their rappel down, as we popped out of the climb up pitch 4. We wished them well, and went on to enjoy the summit in solitude.

The two campsites at the summit are small but well protected, and other than the pain of carrying up more gear, I'd love to watch the sunset/sunrise from this vantage point.

After taking in the vistas and grabbing lunch, we began the descent after 20-30 minutes on top.

The first rappel was great--straightforward and sheer, without obstacles. At the base of the rappel, I was able to look down to the chockstone at the top of pitch two and saw that the group of two who trailed us were STILL on pitch 2. I hoped they were ok.

We scrambled down to pitch 3, to find that the group of two were still making their way up pitch 2, and the group of three in front of us were also waiting to be able to descend. So, it was a bit of a traffic jam, with all three climbing groups of the day converging on one spot.

We hung out above pitch three until the ascending group got up pitch 2 and 3. Then, we coordinated with the group in front of us for the rappel. They fixed their anchor and used the full length of their rope to rappel all the way to the base of the climb; then we used their rope as a pull and rappelled down our rope. It was nice not to have to set up an additional rappel.

From the base of the climb, we scrambled back down the approach slope and were happy to be back on an actual trail. On the return, there was very little traffic, and we enjoyed beautiful--and very clear--skies and afternoon sunlight. Great for photos.

The last part of the trail (as is often the case) seemed longer than I remembered, but plentiful water in the creekbed and nice views made the return trip great.

Glad to check this one off my bucket list, finally. And glad to have gained some additional climbing experience in the process.
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Weaver's Needle Summit - East c4 RoutePhoenix, AZ
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Weaver's Needle SummitPhoenix, AZ
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Pro: a few small cams
I finally decided to give the west side of Weavers a try and then after Weavers, Katie and I continued on for a bit of a western Supes super loop.

We met Jordyn at the Peralta Trailhead just after six and were on our way to the west chimney shortly after. I don’t know why I thought approaching Weavers from Terrapin would be a good idea, but that is what we went with and it definitely added some work to the approach as we had to complete a sometimes attention getting high traverse around Weavers northwest corner. I was not happy about the added time, but we did come across some pretty intriguing caves/old mines along the way.

From the base of the obvious west chimney we roped and “racked” up at the chains that mark the beginning of the second pitch. The first pitch is an easy class four scramble. I placed a few small cams and exited out the left side of the chock stone for the 5.4 finish. Going under the chockstone is rated at easy 5th class and going to the right is rated 5.2. We left the ropes at the rap anchors above the chockstone and we soloed the standard route to the top.

After realizing how close Peralta was, we chose to scramble back down to Peralta for our descent vs traversing back around Weavers NW corner. From Peralta, Jordyn took our rope and small rack and headed back to the trailhead. Katie and I then headed towards the Dutchman Trail, which we took all the way to Charlebois Spring. There were several backpackers camped along the trail to Charlebois and near the spring. After an extended break at the spring, we continued on with our loop. We made a quick detour up Music Canyon along the way out and finished just before 9:00 p.m. to a bright full moon.

A nice 20 mile jaunt through the Supes with an iconic summit along the way. The lack of water out there was a little depressing, but there is enough to backpack, the desert is green and it feels like spring out there. We encountered a hillside of poppies on our descent to Peralta and encountered significant poppies lining the trail and hillside along the trail shortly after beginning the gradual climb from the LaBarge Spring area.
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
A hike into La Barge Spring right now would net you a modest wildflower show along the trail as you approach the intersection of the Dutchman and Red Tanks Trail. Its short, but sweet.

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full as usual, no fire damage near.

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A few nice pools and some trickling water

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A few small pools of standing water
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The 6th time was a charm.

We did not see many hikers on the way in, or the way out. Barks Canyon was flowing nicely and there was a light flow along Terrapin Trail. The final approach and off trail navigation to the base is considerably easier now due to the lack of vegetation. No bushes to whack. From Bluff Springs Trail to the base of the Needle, it was 100 percent devastation for the most part, which was a little tough to see. But the long scramble and iconic summit still elicited some nostalgia and brought us joy.

It took us 7.5 hours car to car.

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Solo trip of Miners Needle Regular Route that traverses narrow, exposed cl.4 ledge above The Pick's lower pitches. Final scramble to main summit is on the south face. Afterwards, hiked over and climbed the east side Hiker's Route of WN to the summit, then rapped West Chimney route and hiked out to Peralta TH.
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Weavers Needle Upper Loop, AZ 
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This started out as a Weavers Crosscut Loop, but ended up being a little more. I started out from Peralta Trailhead pre-dawn and made my way to the Lone Pine overlook. Not much of a sunrise because of the low clouds.

From there, I went back to the Fremont Saddle and started down Peralta. I had a Weaver's Crosscut GPS track loaded and I found the trail and cairns and started up. I did not give it much thought, but I seemed to be going up and not over. I finally checked the track and noticed I was way off trail. I realized then I was on the Weaver's Approach Trail, so I decided to keep going. I have always wanted to head up the base of the Needle and now was the time.

I saw some movement above and then 2 bighorn ewes moved across the slope. I got some video as they ran away from me. It was probably all of the huffing and puffing I was doing on this steep trail that startled them. Here's a link to the video: [ youtube video ]

I followed the trail up to the cliff section and took in the views. The awesome feeling I had being up there was hard to describe. I have never climbed this peak or been this close to it. I was a happy hiker! From the west approach, I moved along the cliff line to the south and made my way over to the east approach. That was amazing too. After a little break, I looked for my best path down. I noticed a nice drainage near the southside of the peak and started down. There were signs of other hikers being in there before. A foot print here and there, an occasional cairn. I just kept going down with the plan of connecting to the Crosscut Trail. I eventually did just that. The views of the Needle from that trail are pretty nice. I still have a big smile on my face from the experience.

From the Crosscut, I made it to the Terrapin and then Bluff Springs Trail. I saw a few hikers out on Bluff Springs, but not as many as I would have expected, seeing as the weather was perfect all day.

This hike really turned into an excellent day for me. Going to the Needle, seeing some bighorn sheep up there....days like these is why I love hiking so much in the Superstitions.
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Headed into the Supes with Lee with the hope of double summit starting with Weaver's and then Bluff Mountain. Starting about 6am from Peralta we hit Bluff Spring Trail to Terrapin and eventually off trail to the base of Weaver's Needle. Lee had already climbed it a few times and knew what to expect but it was my first attempt. From the previous triplogs it sounded like using a rope was 50/50 proposition. Lee went up right away and I made a few attempts on the rock getting about 1/2 way up just below the most difficult section. Going up seemed to be ok but I was concerned about coming back down. Ultimately I decided this was not my day for a summit and could always return with the proper rope for the downclimb. I waited at the base as Lee hit summit so at least had a nice break with a view!

After Weaver's we continuted off trail down the east side and then across Terapin Trail to the Bluff approach. Went up the west ridge of Bluff Mountain to the main ridgeline and at the summit relativley easily. Lots of gnats or flying ants as others have noted so we didn't stay long. Then down the Ely Anderson trail to Bluff Springs Trail and a quick stop by Bluff Spring. Nice little rattlesnake hanging out at the spring but it didn't seem to mind our presence. Took a short break and then continued back to the trailhead. Temps were a bit warm the last few miles but we had enough water to say well hydrated. Fun hike...just need to go back and get Weaver's!
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I made a visit to my old stomping grounds with Karl today. The plan was Weavers Needle and Bluff Mountain. Initially, there were some high hopes for running water out there and we even wondered if it would be running across the road on the way in, as we both thought we saw some pretty decent rain coming down out there last night on radar and because Phoenix got hit so hard. But alas this quickly faded as we hit the dry dirt road on the drive in. But no worries we were there to bag some summits, not swim.

The early morning conditions were great out there to start, low humidity with a little breeze. There was trickling water in Barks Canyon and at the intersection with Terrapin. We also ran across some random puddles on the way to the Needle and a couple of very lightly flowing spots along Bluff Springs Trail later in the day. Karl was not feeling the climb when we got to the base of the needle and after a little mulling it over, he decided it would not be in the cards for him today, so I went ahead and bagged it on my own. However, I will admit that I nearly bowed as well, as I was a little shaky in my legs and a little more anxious than usual on the tricky part. I think some of it was dealing with a lot less strength than the last few times I had did it and worrying about my surgically repaired shoulder more than I should have been. Nevertheless, I was able to take a little breather, calm my nerves and it started to come back to me. I ended up taking more time than I should have and a few parts that seemed very easy last time, took more time and attention to detail this time around, but I eventually made the summit. There was a crazy gnat infestation on the summit, so I did not stay long, or even open any of the three summit registers, but I was still able to enjoy the nice moment on top of the symbol of the western Supes. I found the anchor I could not find on the way up and Karl contemplated another attempt with a handline in place, but it barely reached the tricky spot, so it was not going to be much use to him. But eventually we both agreed a return in winter with the right rope was probably the best option and after a little guiding from Karl I completed the down climb.

From Weavers it was on to another western Supes icon, Bluff Mountain. We took a cross country route from the base of the needed to almost the exact spot we would be leaving the Terrapin Trail for our climb up the backside of Bluff. The climb was a little warm at times, but the travel was pretty easy. There was another gnat infestation on the top of Bluff so our stay was short. However, we did have enough time to look over the register and reminisce about all the HAZers in it. That log book up there is seriously 75 percent HAZ users! From the summit it was on to the Ely Anderson Trail and our descent. The fire damage on Bluff from a few years back is almost non existent and it was nice and green up there. After we descended, we made a quick detour to Bluff Springs, as I was curious to if it was flowing and it was. It was a light flow, but steady enough to fill a one gallon bucket in a relatively quick amount of time. We shared our break spot with a nice polite rattler who agreed not to mess with us, if we did not mess with him. It was a bit of an oven at times on our way back to the trailhead, but we made decent time, with only a quick stop to filter some refreshing lukewarm water.

Overall a great day in the Supes! It was really nice to reconnect a little with that area after spending my summer on the road. Even with the slightly cooler day, it was probably a little warm out there for most mortals. Thank you for the cold beverages and driving Karl.





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More pool than trickle, but a decent amount of water.

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Approximately one gallon per 8-10 minutes.

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The plan was Weavers and then Bluff Mountain summit from the southwest ridge, back to Eli Anderson, Bluff and TH. Jackie and the pups came along for this one, however, with the expectation of being spectators for Weavers. It was apparent from the start that this was going to be a wet foggy day, however, I still held out hope that Weavers would be dry enough to summit.

Weavers was in fact dry enough and someone left a line behind making the difficult first part of the climb pretty harmless. The scramble up was slick in a few spots, but never felt in danger. Chilly, windy and zero visability on the summit. In fact, throughout the entire hike to the Needle, we never saw it until we got to its base. I kept thinking the wind might blow the fog out of there, but it never did and the fog lingered the entire day. No worries though, as I enjoyed the little climb and scramble up Weavers. After meeting back up with Jackie and the relieved dogs, we backtracked to Terrapin. I then realized that I did not upload the route of Bluff via the SW ridge, but not to be deterred, I suggested we at least walk down to that area and look for something indicating a route up. We turned off the trail at some cairns and found a few more, but I was not overly confident it was the route and felt we were most likely on the wrong ridgeline, from turning off too early. After that wasted endeavor, it was to a fun little set of waterfalls off Terrapin, where I then proposed we just complete the Dutchman, Peralta Loop since we had gone so far down Terrapin already. I told Jackie that, "I could not imagine the loop leading to more than a 12 mile day." We came in just under 16 miles after taking Terrapin down to the Dutchman and then across to the Peralta Trail for our return to the TH.

Despite the higher than expected miles and wet conditions (on and off light showers) we enjoyed the loop. We were finally able to enjoy some nice views of the relative surrounding area and the Needle around 3 p.m., the opening in the fog lasted about two hours and then it was back to 50 feet of vision for the descent down to the TH. We finally broke at 6:10 p.m. and put our head lamps on for the final few minutes on the trail.

In the end it was really nice getting out to an area in the Supes where it is hard to go wrong when there is flowing water. It could have been a little dryer, but we prevailed, however, spent several minutes discussing our regret in not bringing our rain pants. We only ran into a couple of hikers all day and never passed a person on Peralta. The loop may have been long and the conditions not ideal, but it was nice to achieve solitude in such a popular area of the Supes. The SW approach to Bluff looks cool, will probably be out there shortly, but with a route.

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With afternoon obligations I needed to stay close to home. I did not want to just rack up empty miles in the valley so I headed to Peralta TH. Weavers has been on my mind latel and with the ridge line not feasible, it seemed like a viable option.

The steady rain on the drive to the TH coupled with a late Friday night had me thinking miners needle loop when I got there. However, I stuck to my plan. I decided I would still go to the base of the needle and assess the situation from there.

It was raining even harder once I got to the base and that first tough climb was nothing short of treacherous. Not to be deterred I gave it a shot and was able to methodically make my through that toughest first part. I was very careful and more reserved than usual because I was solo and it was pretty slippery, but I made it to the summit in relative ease after the nasty first section.

I have done much in the Supes and can't think of too many experiences better than having the summit of Weavers to one's self. It started to rain pretty hard once I reached the top and there were a couple nice crashes of thunder along with some lightning; things were looking pretty ominous in the distance and improvement did not seem near, so I retreated back to the base after a short stay on. Down climbing that tough stretch was extra fun with the slick rock, but I made it through just fine. The rain pretty much kept me company until I reached the TH.

In the end it proved to be the perfect little hike with some bang for its buck and I was happy to be home by noon.

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Just another awesome hike in what is turning out to be a very memorable summer hiking campaign. Took the invite from Bob, invited my friend Jim along. Jim has been an avid hiker in the Supes for nearly 20 years and has always dreamed of reaching the top of Weaver's Needle. Today he got his chance and he took full advantage along with the five of us.

Just a very cool experience! I thought the rental fee Joe was charging to use his rope was a little high so I chose to free climb up, and as much as I wanted to get some rappel action, I chose to free climb down as well. I am ready for the west side JJ ;)

Both climbs/scrambles went great, the summit was about what you can imagine and ten time more, the temps were perfect and it was nice to finally add Joe to my very humble hiking partners list. Likewise, I know Jim really appreciated the opportunity and enjoyed the hike, kind of hard to find new things to do in the Supes when you have been hiking them for 18 years, but I think we found something a little bit different for Jim today ;)

Only thing I would have changed was the amount of rope "I carried" out, carried out 60 meters of rope, probably could have left in car ;)
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking8.35 Miles 3,115 AEG
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Bumble Bee, Wiki Wally, F(T)OTG-LC-XYZ, "Jim" & I threaded the needle in celebration of our independance. Temps never cracked 91 degrees. The humidity felt thick at times. Other times it felt tropical when breezy. Cloud cover kept the sun in check for the majority.

Took my ridiculously heavy static 60m/10mm + heavy harness to keep things safer with more guys in the pack. Wally & primarily Lee deserve the scrolling credits for carrying gear. Not necessary yet nice and solid compared to recent rappels on the slightly dynamic 7mm with an ultra lightweight harness.

Bob zipped up first with the rope like a trooper as usual. Everyone made it up without issue. Lee ascended and down climbed without the rope. He had a couple wide eyed moments yet kept cool and moving.

The summit is 5-10 min from the chockstone. With the larger group we took more time on top. It was nice to check out the views and soak it all in.

It was great to meet Lee & Jim. Especially cool being there with Wally & Jim. They have probably pondered that needle more than most so I'm glad I got to join in on their journey.

Took 4 quarts, consumed 3. 6 vehicles in the lot near noon was shocking. We passed several groups returning on Peralta.
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Jul 04 2014
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Weaver's Needle Summit - East c4 RoutePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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wallyfrackTriplogs 1,691
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I had nothing going on the morning of July 4th so why no get up at 3:30am take a hike to Weavers Needle. I wasn't sure I would ascend the Supes monument but with the cloud cover I thought it may just be a nice hike even in July. We got to the base of the needle and I was pretty sure I should have brought a good book to read while I waited. Bob climbed up and dropped a rope, Joe climbed up, Jim climbed using the rope, Lee climbed up and I sent mine & Joe's packs upon a the rope. Oh what the heck, I think I can hang onto a rope and ascend a class 4 grade and so it went. The climb after the initial 40m feet is fairly easy. There were a few spots that required a look at first but doable. We relaxed on the summit and took it all in fora while. After we climbed down for the final rappel,a few drops of rain fell but that was it. On the hike out, it was surprising to see several people hiking on Peralta trail but in retrospect they were the sane ones. Needle Madness, where does it end? :lol:
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Weaver's Needle Summit - East c4 RoutePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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I’m not a disciple of Paramahsa Yogananda but I have practiced some of what he has preached and his book is a must read. Dennis Weaver endorses it and so does Gary Wright. I just closed my eyes and felt my body lifting freely above the skies and I just happened to be on Weaver’s Needle. It wasn’t a dream; it was freakin awesome.

Jealousy or Jelly can be a good thing or it can eat your heart away. In this instance, it was a good thing. Why you ask? I sent out a pm to 3 individuals who have been killin it lately. Joe, JJ and Dave have visited temples and prominent Super landmarks while I’ve been riding the Dumbo ride. Well Joe came back with availably that worked for me and I sent a pm to others and a group was formed. Some slept soundly the night before but others didn’t sleep much because of the anticipation.

BrunoP awoke at 2:45am and I took him for a short walk and explained to him why he couldn’t join us today. He sulked a little and then jumped back on the bed while I grabbed a banana and some honey nut toasted oats. I jumped back in bed and with my right leg hanging over the edge so as not to fall back asleep. My eyes were open and my mind was fixated on Dr. Seuss and Teenage Mutant Ninjas. Fast forward and it was time to get dressed and pack my pack.

You can hear Joe coming from two streets over and he was 10 minutes early but luckily I was ready and touched the white button that pulls the protection layer between inside and outside. I pressed the black button to open the storage area for Joe and we were off to pick up Wally Supes. We arrive 12 minutes early but he was waiting for us. We arrived at Peralta TH 15 minutes early and the other two had already started hiking leaving us a note which was hard to read.

The 6th line of Dream Weaver is… I believe we can reach the morning light…..The morning light on Weaver’s Needle was not brilliant like I’ve seen it at times but today it had a whole nother meaning. My mind was on a friend who I will some day meet on the other side. Meet me on the other side is a line in the song and my friends face came to me as I closed my eyes. My emotions were in check and I smiled and did what we did together on another lesser holiday. Tears filled my eyes today but they were tears of joy.

Thanks Joe for making this happen and good to see Wally and Lee and to meet Jim. It is a day I will never forget.
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Jun 26 2014
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 Chandler, AZ
Weaver's Needle Summit - East c4 RoutePhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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JuanJaimeiiiTriplogs 2,400
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So I had some work to do on the steps for my hot tub. The wood is getting a bit dry from the sun. Normally I stain them every couple years but recently I saw this new product from Behr called "Deck Over". It is a slip resistant heavy duty coating for old and dry wood. :-k

Anyway, Joe sent over a PM suggesting something about an early morning Weavers Needle attempt. Something about going at it from the eastern side that is rated as a class four. I had heard that the east was easier than the west but still a bit sketchy. When I was up there earlier this year with Amy and Mark I looked down the eastern side. From above I couldn't determine the level of difficulty so I figured I would come back some day. Well heck isn't this perfect! I can go check it out from below with Dave and Joe!

So at first light we start heading up the Bluff Springs Trail. 1, 2, 6 and we are at the base of Weavers needle. Upon checking it out it looks pretty good. The guys suggest I go up first. After a short bit Joe says "wait let me throw the rope up to you". He does and I continue on up. There was some webbing to tie onto about mid way. I tied the rope for the guys and kept going. Before you know it I was standing on the ledge above the chock stone. Holy Moly I was feeling elation! I already knew that from here up was 100% doable without issue.

Then some time passed and then some more passed. Where are the guys? Joe hollers for me to come back down to the webbing and untie the rope and pull it through. They had decided to double it over so they could rappel back down with the harness Dave brought.

So this gets done and they come up without issue. From the ledge above the chock stone we all scurried up to the summit. It was a short and sweet visit and then back down we went.
Dave had to be at work by 11 so there wasn't much time to mess around. On the way down I free climbed it and the boys chose to rappel. Then it was a short trip around the base of the Needle and down to the Peralta Trail.

We figure we could do the round trip hike and climb in 4 to 4:30 hours. This one took a little over 5 and a half.

Dave went to work, Joe and I had some Del Taco and then I went to Home Depot and got my Deck Over product. Got those steps taken care of so no more staining in the future!

Now that is a Good Day!
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Jun 26 2014
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 Phoenix, AZ
Weaver's Needle Summit - East c4 RoutePhoenix, AZ
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Wow, didn't think I'd ever get on top of Weaver's! Thanks again, Joe and JJ!

We were supposed to meet at Peralta TH at 4:50am but I was running about 5 minutes late. They had already started before I arrived so I had to play catch-up. Trust me, you don't ever want to have to catch up to these guys! We took Bluff Springs to the Cross Cut trail so we could access the east side of Weaver. I was expecting to take Peralta in both directions so I wore shorts. Big mistake. The off-trail part to the base of the needle is quite brushy.

I had been to the east side before about 3 years ago and didn't really feel like there was a "safe" route up so I was skeptical when Joe suggested it. But knowing J&JJ's route finding skills, I figured I should probably go. At the east side base, of course JJ went up right away. Joe was next but turned around about 15-20' up. Then my turn. Went up a few feet and knew I could do it but didn't like the thought of down-climbing it. Joe and I decided it would be best to have JJ set up the rope so we could rappel back down if needed. The 7mm ropes (one at 70' and the other 45') we brought are real stretchy so we tied the ends together and had JJ loop it through the existing anchored webbing so we could rappel with "2" ropes. So the first climb was about 75' and then it was another 30' or so climb in a notch to the top of the infamous chockstone. JJ was pretty excited to get to this point as he knew it was a relatively easy scramble to the summit from here. I was still nervous about going back down. Above the chockstone is a 12' non-exposed climb. It didn't give us much trouble. Beyond that was about another 300 vertical feet of mixed class 2, 3 and 4 to the top. Most of it is just a blur to me at this point.

It was very surreal being on top. Hard to believe we actually made it as the climbs all seemed to go by so quickly and were much easier than I was expecting. But with all the down-climbing heavy on my mind, it was difficult to enjoy the summit. We spent about 10 minutes on top and then headed back down. Everything went well and we even found a bypass to one of the more difficult down-climbs. None of it seem really exposed to me. Maybe just that one bypass part that sort of hung out over the west side a bit but even that wasn't too bad. Joe and I rappelled the last 70' while JJ stayed true to his "non-roped" ascent and descent of the needle.

We finished by looping around the base of the needle to the west side and then picked up the use trail to Peralta Trail and back to Peralta trailhead.

Can't wait to go back! :y:
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Mar 29 2014
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 Mesa, AZ
Weaver's - Base of the NeedlePhoenix, AZ
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This is a beautiful hike! We took this on Saturday. We started late and moved slow due to some knee issues in the group, so we didn't make it back to our car until 9:30 p.m. :doh: Good thing we had headlamps! My favorite part about this hike was enjoying the beauty of the Peralta area and Weaver's needle in almost complete solitude (we went in the counterclockwise direction). We were concerned about making it to the Peralta trail before sunset, so we took the Weaver's Needle Crosscut instead of going around the base. That part was not easy, but there were some very cool rock formations to look at along the way.
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Mar 08 2014
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Weaver's Needle SummitPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
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I hiked, I climbed, I conquered!

Okay, loaded up our packs with nuts and bolts and gloves and ATCs and ropes and daisy chains and all sorts of other crazy climber mumbo jumbo that I haven't learned to speak yet.

Kim and her soon-to-be-hubby supplied all the gadgets and safety gear and I brought my will to...fall off a mountain? :-s

A **45** minute jaunt up the full-of-mall-walkers trail commonly known as Peralta we arrived at Fremont Saddle where David got his first look at The Needle and I of course spouted off "the time I free climbed" her and didn't die...

We were off and at the base of the Needle what felt like a mere minutes later. Now let me mention here that Kim and I were carrying the ropes coiled up and nested atop our daypacks and secured nicely under our armpits...the chaffing was amazing once we reached the climb! Thank goodness these ropes were only a few pounds each!
The trek up to the base of the climb felt like forever and by now the sun was climbing high and roasting the tip of my nose!

Finally in the shade of the chute and we realized HOW DANG CHILLY it got back in there!! David and Kim set up the gear and he led the way and top roped us one at a time.

I'd never climbed like this before, in fact, our second rope was also clipped in to my harness as I climbed so when I reached the top of the chock stone and Kim was ready to climb David would to rope her on the orange rope while I pulled up the blue...so confusing to me at first but once I saw it done it kinda made sense. (Though in the end we decided two ropes wasn't really necessary).

After that initial climb its a fairly simple scramble to the summit, granted it was about a 10 minute scramble with maybe 2 or 3 exposed moments but nothing I haven't done before, although now that I think about it, the scrambling section is "harder" than the actual climb to the chockstone! :lol: But a heck of a lot of fun!!

Once on the summit I might have cried with joy...or not, I won't tell! I've been wanting to get up there for years! FINALLY!!! :DANCE:

We celebrated and took photos (too many as usual!) and of course, I did the one thing that must be done to make any summit bag official in my book... and they tried it too... :lol:

After a gajillion photos we headed back to the south side and found the MASSIVE bolted chain and set up our gear for a 80-ish foot rappel down, I heard you can just scramble back down the way you came...but we brought all this gear so might as well use it again!! This rappel was a lot of fun, but it was our first today and my nerves kicked on, fear of heights and all. It takes a lot of guts to take the first step to the edge and lean back trusting only your brake hand to keep you safe.

Needle-less to say, it was awesome, easy, the views were breathtaking, the weather was perfect, my friends and new climbing buddies taught me a lot and helped me when I needed it. I wouldn't suggest climbing the Needle for absolute newbs simply due to the exposure on the scramble up to the summit but from an actual climbing standpoint....cake!

The hike was to Peralta TH was easy, peaceful and watching the sun set as always is a joy.

Best part of the day, having people gawk at the ropes and harness on my pack as I walked up the trail and being able to reply to their "What are you going to climb" with "Why Weaver's Needle of course, right up to the Hippy tippy top!" : rambo : :lol: :y:
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