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Lanphier Trail #52Alpine, AZ
Alpine, AZ
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Headed out on Saturday before sunrise for the drive up north to the Blue Range Primitive Area for a two-day backpacking trip. The planned loop would take us from Lanphier to Largo Canyon, down to Bear Valley for the night, then up Cow Flat to Lanphier Canyon, back out. While it did not end up that way, we were still able to backpack, and some lessons were learned for future visits. Arrived at the Blue Camp TH at 10 am, and it was already 85 degrees even at 5,700 feet. The Lanphier Canyon portion was only a half-mile, 200-foot climb, but the area was desert scrub brush, and the heat started immediately. We crossed the creek and soaked our towels in the cool creek. The next section was a 200-foot climb over a ridge that took us down into Largo Canyon, where the creek was completely dry. A couple of miles into Largo Canyon with the heat kicking my pumpkin at 90+ degrees and a bum ankle that has been giving me an issue the past couple of weeks, there was no way I was going to make it to Bear Valley. We made a decision to push on to Duth Oven Spring and camp there for the night. Dutch Oven Spring trough had some nice, clear flowing water. There was evidence that cows had been in the area, but it had been some time, so the water was good to filter and tasted great. We set up camp about 50 yards away and explored the area, hiking up to the Telephone Ridge junction. Spent some time looking for Maple Spring but did not find even a drop of water. After getting back to camp, we made dinner and watched as the deer and birds came to drink and play at the spring. It was a warm night, as there was some cloud cover to keep some of the heat in, so sleeping was intermittent. Got up at sunrise, had breakfast, packed up camp, and headed out. It was already warm out, and by the time we got back to the car (10 am), it was already nearly 90. The number one thing I learned is that I am a much better hiker than backpacker :lol: ; carrying a 35-40 pound pack up a steep canyon in 90 degrees made me extremely slow and was unpleasant. And with that, I need to avoid anything over 80-85 degrees, which is pretty difficult in the summer. With a good daylight left, we explored a couple of other THs down by the river for future events before heading back to the land of the fireball. Even though the hike did not go as planned, it was still great to get out into the Blue for a couple of days, coming across tons of Deer and Elk.

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Clear flowing water that tasted great. There are cow patties there, but they are pretty old.

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Good flow at the Largo junction.
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Lanphier Trail #52Alpine, AZ
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With the long weekend, and both of us wanting to test our tolerance for backpacking, a plan was made to get back to the Blue Range Primitive area. The loop hike that was planned seemed doable, though in hindsight it was a poor choice given the heat and the AEG.

With my somewhat recent re-acquaintance with my love of hiking, I wasn't sure if I'd still have it in me to backpack. My recollection is that while I definitely prefer hiking, I could tolerate backpacking -- though I honestly don't remember the last time I did a backpacking trip. When preparing for this venture out, I was glad to discover all my gear in good working order...though I suspect the urethane coating in my backpack is starting to show its age with a tiny bit of tackiness discovered in one of the exterior pockets (a check of my notes tells me this particular pack has been with me for nearly 18 years 😲). When fully loaded, I was glad to discover the pack still carries as well as I remember.

We met up early to make the drive out to allow us to get started before the full heat of the day, arriving at the Trailhead to find the temps sitting in the low to mid 80's. After doing some final sorting and situating of gear along with the requisite application of sunblock and insect repellent, we started off through the gate.

A short walk past a ranch property brought us to the crossing of the Blue, after which the trail began climbing steadily before dropping us into the riparian area created by Lanphier Creek. The area has been frequented by cattle, though it seemed that it may have been quite some time since there was significant cattle activity given how old the cowpies were. After a brief stop, we crossed the creek and started up the Largo trail. The trail climbed somewhat steeply to the ridge between Lanphier and Largo Canyons before dropping into the completely dry Largo drainage to follow it at a slightly more gradual grade.

With the heat, the weight of the packs, and the rocky tread, our pace was slower than anticipated. When we reached Dutch Oven Spring, we decided to call it a day and set up camp. The area is pretty torn up from cattle, with lots of old cow patties scattered liberally about. Finding spots to set up camp was challenging given the terrain - I suspect I would have been better off if I had brought the hammock instead. After getting things set up, we opted to explore further up the trail and hunted for Maple Spring with no luck. We returned to camp to filter water and settle in for the evening, with our late afternoon and evening's entertainment provided by the wildlife coming to the spring. There were numerous birds, squirrels, and even a deer that came by!

Dutch Oven Spring was in good shape, with a nicely built catchment and active inflow through the pipe. The animals seemed to prefer to drink from the overflow. The catchment itself had lots of bee and wasp activity.

Things took a while to cool down, making for a restless sleep. The next morning, we got up and struck camp at a leisurely pace, and headed back down to the truck. Even with the relatively early start, the day heated up fast, and temps at the truck were already in the upper 80's by the time we returned. Overall, the trail conditions were decent, if a bit rocky. There is some deadfall, with one not far from Dutch Oven proving to be the most annoying/challenging - requiring duck-walking in a full crouch under the fallen snag. The other deadfalls were easier to navigate, with most being a straight-forward step-over.

Since we finished with our hiking so early and neither of us in a rush to get back to the valley, we drove around to check some of the other trailheads in the area to make notes for future visits. While I enjoyed being out and seeing all the wildlife, I'm pretty sure I'd rather pull a 20+ mile dayhike than do an overnight or multi-night backpacking trip to cover the same distance 🤣

Wildlife: Loads of birds, lizards, squirrels, moths, butterflies, deer, and elk.

People: No others were foolish enough to attempt the lower reaches of the Blue 😆 but the solitude is always preferred!

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Very nice catchment, overflowing with observable flow in through the pipe. The surrounding area is rife with old cow patties, though the catchment was clear with some leaf matter in the bottom and a tiny bit of algae present.

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The Blue River near Lanphier Canyon was easy to cross via a few rocks and a smallish log, and was perhaps a meter or so across. We did not walk to the confluence, but about 0.5 miles up the trail, where the Largo Canyon Trail branches off and crosses Lanphier Creek, there was also decent flow.
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Lanphier Trail #52Alpine, AZ
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Just a little jaunt down to the Blue to see if there are any cool colors down there. A lot of the stretch from Blue Crossing down to Blue Camp seemed past prime. Up in Lanphier, a lot of trees have already lost their leaves, some are still green, and there were just one or two bright red maples. Not as much color as I hoped for, but it was still a new look on the area.

When I got back to Blue Camp, I decided to see if I could follow S Canyon trail for a bit. After the first couple creek crossings, it became more obvious. Went as far as where the trail begins leaving the valley, and found a nice little overlook of the valley to the north.

Took Blue River Road all the way up to Alpine; there was one stretch between Blue School and Upper Blue CG that had some more vibrant colors.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Light
Oaks are turning. Some dull orange and pink leaves here and there, but not the most vibrant.
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Lanphier Canyon via Horse Ridge, AZ 
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Holiday weekend kinda snuck up on me, and had discussed possibly doing some backpacking with my friend from last month's Galiuros trip. He had to be back by Monday morning, so I proposed staying up in Pinetop on Friday night and doing a single night trip somewhere in the 191 area.

He said he didn't necessarily want a super easy five-miles-in sort of thing, so I proposed hiking down from Horse Ridge TH and camping in Lanphier Canyon... Seems silly considering you can drive to Blue Camp, but I wanted to check off the lower part of Foote Creek Trail, and figured this route would be a great intro to the Blue Range for someone who hadn't been there.

Started walking around 10am, made quick time down Horse Ridge, enjoying the expansive views. Took a little break at the junction with Foote Creek trail, and found there is an interesting little slot canyon just west of the campsite, which I missed on my way up last summer. We also took a quick look at the Foote Creek waterfall about a quarter mile below the spring, and penciled in a quick dip in the pool for the hike out. No bear near the Tutt Creek junction this time.

Trail got a little harder to follow past Tutt Creek, but we definitely made a few mistakes turn-wise. The last half mile or so in the creek, the trail basically devolves into a network of cattle tracks, and there are a few cattle. Kind of diminished the beauty of that part of the creek.

The last 2.5 miles or so to Blue Camp involved a couple little grunts, but was more or less pleasant given the windy conditions, and the views opened up again.

One truck at Blue Camp, but we wouldn't see the owner. Lanphier was pleasant, and around 3:30pm we started keeping an eye out for campsites. Passed up what I later decided was the best spot for one not quite as nice, but didn't want to hike back. It was nice though; good shade and creek access, and a few choices of flat spots.

After setting up, we decided to hike upstream for 45 minutes or so; made it past where the trail leaves the canyon on the north - there were some signs that there was once a trail there, and even one excellent, hardened campsite.

Once back at camp, we were sort of dreading doing the same thing in reverse in the morning, and I messaged my sister asking her to find out how far it is from Blue Camp to 191 via Red Hill Road (with the thought that we'd probably be offered a ride at some point).

Sunday morning, my back was super sore and I was legitimately worried about being able to do the big climbs at the end, so I was leaning towards the hitchhike option; however, things felt a little better by Blue Camp and I just decided we may as well hike the remaining 10.5 miles. It was already a bit warm on the climb out of Blue Camp, but it felt a little better once we got to the flat part.

The lower part of Foote Creek went much faster, since we knew where to expect to find trail for the most part, and corrected some of the mistakes we made on the way down. Stopped at the falls and took an ice cold dip in the pool. Made our last stop at the spring, which produced some great tasting water.

Horse Ridge was a real grind on the way back up, but we made OK time, and the hike out only took 22 minutes longer than the hike in.

Turned out to be a nice little trip, and a really pretty route.

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There's a trickle at one of the trail crossings... But not water you want to drink.

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Light flow from Horse Ridge trail down about a half mile. Good flow the rest of the way down from the springs.

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Easy to cross without getting wet right now.

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Consistent flow through the entire lower section.

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Bear Valley - Blue Range, AZ 
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Decided to spend the holiday weekend checking out a part of the Blue Range I hadn't been yet. Planned for two nights. Stayed in Lakeside, making the morning drive only 2.5 hours...

Saturday

On the way down to the Blue River, came across a couple vehicles in the road chatting with each other for about 10 minutes - the guy facing me turned out to be a Game & Fish employee. What a jerk. A few minutes after I was moving again, the guy going the same direction waved me over and apologized because he didn't know I was back there, we chatted for a second or two - and then my window wouldn't go back up. Great.

So, things started out a bit rough. Tried to mentally put the stuck-down window out of mind as I set off up Lanphier trail.

Turned up onto Largo Trail. Little climby at first, but once into Largo Canyon, the grade was nice and gentle most of the time. Grabbed a bit of extra water at Dutch Oven. Largo was flowing a lot of the distance from Dutch Oven almost all the way to the top.

Passed on Bear Mountain since it didn't look like the coolest summit and I kinda wanted to relax in Bear Valley. Trail down into the valley was rocky but easy to follow. Easy walking once down into the drainage.

Got to the corral at around 1:30pm, set up camp, and then explored down Little Blue Creek. This stretch of creek was special. Probably went about 1.5 miles down, then turned back. Filled up at the spring on the way back up, hoping to not have to use any water at Bear Valley (cattle tromping around and whatnot). Spent the remainder of the afternoon reading; perfect place for it.

Sunday

Tolerably chilly morning, set off hiking at around 7am. Followed the lines on my maps, even though I was pretty sure the current alignment of Cow Flat Trail goes through the meadow a quarter mile west. No trail to be seen, though it wasn't too difficult going through that terrain. Popped over when I figured I was close to the current alignment, and easily found the trail. Much better. The climb out of Bear Valley was steep but not terribly long. I had considered trying WS Lake Trail over to WS Lake and then down around to Devil's Monument, but WS Lake Trail seems pretty nonexistent right now.

Easy going from Campbell Flat to Franz Spring. Originally planned on dropping my pack at the cabin and doing a day hike (maybe to Devil's Monument), but didn't especially like the campsites there (too disturbed by horses for my liking), and the idea of taking it easy on Memorial Day (plus getting a chance to try and get my window up) proved too hard to resist. So I decided to bail on the 2nd night.

The trek down Lanphier was nice, especially in the lower sections. Lots of water, and quite lush, most of the way down from Cashier Spring. I actually liked the campsite right above Cashier and probably would've worked a night there into the plan had I known. Altogether enjoyable day, although the last half mile was a bit warm. Got back to the Jeep at around 12:30, and took the scenic way back up to Alpine.

Fun little adventure, didn't see a single person out there. Most of this route was within the Cow Canyon Fire perimeter a couple years ago, but in most places it's barely noticeable - definitely the type of fire the forests need.

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Plenty of water, and cattle.

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Pipe below the spring box has water. This is the spot to fill up in the area.

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Water coming out of one of the pipes.

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Tasty water.

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Good flow at the confluence. Spring a couple hundred yards down trail is also flowing.

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Good flow in most stretches below Cashier Spring.

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A couple flowing stretches below the springs, more regular above.
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1st trip
I decided to go hike up to 2 fire lookouts south of Alpine: Bear Mountain 8560 and Rose Peak. Both peaks are in the Apache-Sitgreaves Forest; Bear Mountain 8560 is also in the Blue Range Primitive Area.

Bear Mountain 8560
Starting at the Blue Camp Trailhead, I did a CW lasso loop hike on these trails: Lamphier-Largo-WS Lake-Sawmill-Telephone Ridge-Largo-Lanphier

Lanphier Trail
I was only on the Lanphier Trail for about a half mile, and I don't have much to say about it. It was in decent shape and easy to follow.

There was a creek crossing near the start of the trail that was a bit too deep to keep my feet dry, so I went back to the truck to put some old shoes on to get across the creek. When I got back to the creek I couldn't remember if I had locked the truck, so I went back to see. This back and forth added almost 1/2 mile to the hike.

Largo Trail
After leaving the Lanphier Trail I took the Largo Trail. The first part of the trail goes up to a ridge between Lanphier and Largo Canyons, and then it descends into Largo Canyon. On the ridge there are nice views of the Blue. I enjoyed hiking through the canyon -- there are lots of hardwood trees which will likely have nice foliage later in the fall. Eventually I came to a junction with the Little Blue Trail, which goes to the east. At this point the Largo Trail heads SW for about 3/4 mile to the WS Lake Trail. The Largo Trail was in decent shape and was easy to follow all the way through Largo Canyon. However, the trail became faint once past the Little Blue Trail junction, and the Largo Trail essentially disappeared some distance before getting to the WS Lake Trail, and I was mostly bushwhacking through chest high ferns until getting to the WS Lake Trail.

WS Lake Trail
This trail goes to the summit of Bear Mountain. It is a steep ascent up the east side of Bear Mountain, but there are several long switchbacks which dampen the rate of ascent a bit. The trail is a bit rocky, but it is in decent shape and is easy to follow. It was a nice summit, although there are lots of trees around which limit views unless you decide to climb up to the lookout.

There were lots of deer in the summit area, including one that was standing almost beneath the lookout. At the lookout I saw one of the biggest bucks that I have ever seen.

Sawmill Trail
This trail mostly exists in name only -- in some places there is a faint trail, but for the most part there may as well not be a trail. In the upper part of the trail I was going through a nice pine forest, and the lack of a trail was not a hindrance, but I stopped to check my GPS fairly frequently to make sure that I was going in the right direction. As you descend Telephone Ridge on the Sawmill Trail, it gets to be a bit brushy.

Telephone Ridge Trail
This trail goes down from the Sawmill Trail to the Largo Trail. It is a steep descent, and the trail really doesn't exist at the upper part of the trail; just head down the best way that you can. About half-way to the Largo Trail I was able to pick up the trail for the rest of the descent. The trail was faint though, and I still checked my GPS fairly frequently.

Once back on the Largo Trail I went back to the TH the way that I came.

Going back on the Sawmill and Telephone Ridge Trails shortened the hike distance by about 1 mile as compared to going back from the Bear Mountain summit the way that I came. However, the going was slow and I doubt if I saved any time by doing the loop; in fact, it may have taken longer.

Synopsis
This is a nice scenic area to hike in, and if you like solitude you are almost guaranteed to find it. However, even thought the entire hike is on named trails, you'll be doing some bushwhacking and route finding.

Rose Peak
I went up and back to the summit on a service road that leads to the summit. There are nice views at the summit, and I enjoyed this hike. I did not get started until about 5:15, and it was twilight before I got back. I can't say that I enjoyed driving in the dark from the TH to Morenci -- that is some kind of road!

Distance and AEG for the 2 hikes are below. Stats above are the sum of the 2.
Bear Mountain: 13.5 miles with an AEG of 3,537 feet
Rose Peak: 2.7 miles with an AEG of 502 feet
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Autumn Foliage Observation Isolated
A few leaves were starting to change on the Largo Trail, but there is not much to see at this time.

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I could not tell how fast the spring was dripping, but the spring box was full
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 Gilbert, AZ
Intro to Blue, AZ 
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1st trip
First time to the Blue. Out of laziness admiration I simply copy/pasted FOTG's earlier trip this year and stuck to the trails.

Day 1
Caught a few hours of sleep before cruising down Steeple/Upper Grant Creek. Upper Grant was okay, intermittent tread with a few obstacles, travel was slower than expected. Swung over on Paradise and gawked over the hints of big views through the trees before connecting with Grant Creek. Grant Creek served as a dividing line for complete devastation and untouched pines for awhile before succumbing to the burn and wandering sadly through a field of ferns.

Stopped at White Oak Spring to spook a buck and flock of turkeys (and filter some water) before tumbling down the rest of Grant Creek Trail. The exposure was hot and my poorly-fitting boots were starting to annoy me, so when I reached the creek itself and saw more signs of burn damage (flood damage and young, greedy growth) I rushed forward and crashed at the trailhead. Bottom of the Blue felt like a darn furnace after the cooler, shaded mountains above.

A hot, dusty forest road did a great job at burning through my water and I was very thankful to find Lanphier Creek flowing at the Largo junction. Trudged uphill on Largo, enjoying the little park beyond the first ridge and Dutch Oven area and mostly cursing my boots. Found some interesting pens that seemed to be protecting the source of Largo Creek, though they were all opened, and the wildlife had obviously been digging deep to find water here this summer. Crested and dropped along the Little Blue Trail to find a very talkative man camping at Bear Valley for a few weeks with his mules, ended up camping at a nice tent pad another half mile on his suggestion.

Day 2
Woke early and hobbled along the rest of the Little Blue, admiring the geologic structures by the twin light of mostly-full moon and slowly-waking sun. Cut over on 609 (which was labeled Horse Mountain Connector by a sign), which was faint yet easy, before bumping into Cow Flat. This trail was fantastic and won the Trail of the Day award. It has variety, several awesome rest spots, and very creative construction. There was also little shade and rolly rocks and catclaw, but hey, this is Arizona.

Aside: there was a feed bag at Ladrone Spring, within a few feet of the campfire ring. This seems bad.

The furnace was alive and kicking when I entered the wide riverbed of the Blue River, and between that and the intermittent trail and the sand and the rock-hopping on sore feet, the next three hours were No Fun. The flow itself was dark and silty, and the tributaries were mostly dry, so I had to filter the questionable river and hope that the aftertaste was 'charm'. When I exited the trail I was immediately yelled at by the landowner who claims there is no way to reach the northern trailhead without trespassing. Anyways, reached Cole Flat by 2pm, thought about heading up Steeple, looked at the gathering storm clouds above and my stupid boots below, and crashed. The next few hours were a delightful mix of reading in a hammock, munching on snacks, and napping in the tent under the patter and rumble of storms that most of Arizona seems to have missed out on this year.

Day 3
Another early start. Yesterday's extra rest proved well worth it, as I was able to zip up the first few miles of Steeple quickly, not letting the sun touch me until I was on KP Mesa. This trail was in great shape and I trotted along easily, enjoying the big views. Mud Spring was totally dry so I pushed on to the next marked spring on the topo to water up. My original plan was to cut over on Paradise and retrace Upper Grant Creek, but the thought of cutting a few miles and completing Lee & Katie's full loop was tempting, so I stuck to Steeple.

That drainage lasted an eternity. Every hundred yards or so there'd be a long patch of locusts to push through, and there was deadfall too, but I only lost the trail once, so I was happy about the condition. The sun and lack of wind were the real pain points on this section - otherwise, this trail is in no worse shape than some of the nightmares in the Mazatzal or Sierra Ancha. I crested in two hours and cruised the final miles happily, already planning future revisits.
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Great pools for filtering.

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Happy little trough.

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Flowing along most of the last few miles of trail, only drying up for the final mile.

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Dry at mount, flowing at Largo Trail junction.

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Spring was dry, creek was dry. Did not venture down creek of topo locale. Springs another half mile upstream had several pools of water.

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dry Tornado Canyon Dry Dry

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Both tanks were overflowing.

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Muddy pools of water below the trail.
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Return to the Blue, AZ 
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I have envisioned this backpack, or variations of it for several years now. But ambitious summer trips, climbing, terrible trails and dogs always prevented the idea from coming to fruition. However, the stars began to align for a proper return to the Blue earlier this year when my interest in the area was reignited by a quick weekend trip there in the spring and when I got word that some of the upper trails had been cleared.

Day 1: 13.1 miles

Our backpack began and ended at the Steeple/Foot Creek Trailhead. We started off on the Steeple Trail #73 and cruised down to the junction for the primitive Upper Grant Creek Trail. Steeple endured some winter deadfall, but the trail showed signs of having been worked on and was generally in great shape. The Upper Grant Creek trail has been transformed since the last time I saw it and is in great shape. It was definitely not the trail Blanco and I turned around on dejectedly several years ago while trying to reach the Grant Creek Cabin. From the Grant Creek Cabin, we took the always pleasant Paradise Trail to Paradise Park and the Grant Creek Trail. We made a stop at White Oak Spring along the way and then I showed Katie some granaries I had found in the area a few years ago. My memory of where the granaries were remained good, however, my memory of the distance was not so good. I told Katie about a tenth of a mile off trail and they proved to be about a steep and loose half mile off trail. My favorite camping spot along lower Grant Creek was taken by a local family, so we resorted to camping among the cows and their feces.

Day 2: 15.75 miles

After wading through a few hundred herd of cattle we reached the Blue early on the second morning. The road was mundane and a little warm despite the early start. It was familiar trails to Bear Valley and they all were in great shape. We enjoyed a nice afternoon in the valley of the bears and a long night of sleep.

Day 3: 12 miles

We began day three with the short, but stunning section of the Little Blue down stream of Bear Valley. After that we took for my first time an informal trail just numbered 609 on my map to the Cow Flat Trail. Trail 609 proved to be more than just a number and was actually quite pleasant for the majority of the trail. Cow Flat was a lot greener than the last time I hiked it, so that was nice, but I still found the trail a tad mundane and it seemed to drag on a little in the heat. After a stop at my favorite spring and waterfall, we finally started making our way up the Blue. We were a little beat upon hitting the Blue and took a couple of extended breaks along the way with some swimming. We ended up calling it a day near Tornado Canyon and made camp by the old barn.

Day 4: 13 miles

We got an early start on the fourth morning to go explore a side canyon that was alluded to in an archaeological report written about the area in the early 1900s. Apart from being referred to as a geological wonder, the canyon was said to house at one time the largest known prehistoric ceremonial cave in the southwest at 10,000 square feet. Everything written about the canyon long ago was true.
...a canyon which, though short and shut in by very steep walls, contains scenery worthy of the highest admiration for its combined beauty and grandeur.


A trickling three-tiered slick rock waterfall guarded the entrance to the canyon and we had to take a bypass just to reach the interior. By this point we were already satisfied with our exploration, as we were immediately able to confirm that the window we saw in a distance from the Blue was actually a very large arch. Naturally, we made the scramble to the base of the arch to investigate. The scramble was steep and loose and required a little class four climbing to reach, but it was worth the effort. The arch was tall and dramatic and a pretty stunning feature to stand under. Further exploration up canyon revealed the cave to us. Like any cave, the cave was hard to capture, but stunning to stand in. The cave had been pretty badly picked over by ranchers and pot hunters over the year, but some crumbling walls helped the imagination. We spent as much time in the cave as we could and I found some other crumbled walls under many overhangs throughout the canyon, but we knew the hardest part of our day loomed ahead, as we still needed to begin our relentless climb of the Steeple Trail.

The climb up to KP and Steeple Mesas was as relentless as I had remembered. However, a few years of recovery and a much greener backdrop, led to the climb being more scenic than I had remembered. We ended our day at Mud Spring. The spring´s name did not inspire much faith in the area being nice, but overall it proved to be a very pleasant destination. The spring had good camping and was flowing nicely. The area represented an almost exact line of where the forest had suffered near 100 percent devastation and where a pocket of trees had survived. Luckily, the camping and trees were under the pocket of trees that survived.

Day 5: 8 miles

We had two options to complete our backpack. There was the Paradise Trail option back to Moonshine Park and then the same stretch of Grant Creek we began on to finish, or a commitment to nearly four miles of unknown trail via the Steeple Trail back to the rim. We went with the Steeple finish because I had never traveled that section of trail and I was interested to know if Steeple went cleanly all the way to the Blue. As it turned out that stretch of Steeple was by far the worst trail we encountered in our five days. The New Mexican Locust has literally devoured the trail in spots and it was a constant bushwhack to the rim. The locust was so bad in spots that we had to detour to the burnt hillside for awhile to bypass it. The tread however, was still generally there. There is just a tremendous amount of overgrowth on and across the trail. Through a little grit though we finally reached the intersection with the KP Rim Trail where the FS had quit with their maintenance of Steeple a year ago. From there is was cruiser to the trailhead.

Final Notes:

It was nice to finally knock out the entire length of the Steeple Trail. The trail is not impassable from Mud Spring to the KP Rim intersection, but I would not recommend it. If making a loop with rim in this area, the best bet most likely seems to be utilizing the Moonshine Park route back to Grant Creek.

Upper Grant Creek Trail is a worthy destination again. The trail is still considered a primitive trail, but the FS has that one in great shape again.

The cattle are ruining lower Grant Creek. I have never seen so many cattle in the Blue before. They have eaten everything green down there except the poison ivy. How is having this many head of cattle grazing there helping with restoring Grant Creek post Wallow Fire?

Eastern Trails were in great shape.

The Blue is back. Well not all the way, but I know for myself I am not excited to get back out there and continue to utilize some of these newly cleared trails. Likewise, the forest is finally starting to rebound at a more noticeable level. The aspen are coming in nicely in spots and there are far more signs of green life than when I started going to the area in 2014.

Katie is really into birds. I am becoming a reluctant birder. I am only really into hawks and eagles. On this trip we saw a: Bald Eagle, Northern Harrier, Ferriginous Hawk, Red Tailed Hawk and a Common Black Hawk.
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Large section of canyon and spring is flowing nicely.

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Same steady, consistent flow as always.

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Flowing from spring to Blue

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Flowing nicely for a mile or so out of Bear Valley

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Creek bed is flowing near spring, and mud bank is dripping steadily. Good camping near spring.

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Two over-flowing troughs

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A few deeper mud puddles, but I would not count on for water.
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I hadn't been to the Blue since right before the Wallow fire and thought it was time to get back. I had been on part of this trip before - I'd been to Bear Mtn and Bear Valley, but it had been at least 10 years.

Day 1. Lanphier to Largo to Telephone ridge up to the summit. Down to Bear Valley and we found a campsite at the edge of the meadow. Did a short day hike to the cool part of Little Blue
Day 2. Up to W.S mountain. dropped packs at WS Lake and hiked to Devil's monument. Interesting and worth the trip. Back to WS lake to pick up packs and made camp above Franz Spring.
Day 3. Hiked a waze out on the Tige rim close to point 7681 and back. Hiked up poing 8014 above cow flat on the way back to camp.
Day 4 out.
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After snagging an amazing car camping spot along the Blue the night before, Katie and I headed to Lanphier for a glorified dog walk through the woods.

The Lanphier Trail is in excellent shape and the lack of summer vegetation really opened up the views along the creek and within the scenic little canyon. I love the combination of giant cottonwoods and even larger ponderosa along this trail. We did not see any people on the trail, but there were a few horse trailers at the trailhead.
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It was far too hot to be enjoyable, but I was looking to do some heat training hikes so this fit the bill. I would not recommend this time of year to visit the Blue, it was 90 degrees by 9:30 AM and stayed at least that hot until 7 PM each day.

It is quite the drought, and the Blue River itself dries up before reaching Sawmill trailhead.

Highlight was seeing a bear on day 3. Saw dozens of elk and deer, because of the dry conditions I think they are all getting driven down into the Blue River valley in search of water.

Day 1: Up S Canyon, along Cow Flat, down Lanphier
Day 2: Tutt Creek and a bit of Foote Creek
Day 3: Up Largo, to WS Lake to get tot the top of Bear Mtn, down Sawmill

The forest service appears to take trail maintenance seriously, though there are some newish fallen trees. The worst is the middle part of Sawmill trail, where it is heavily eroded before reaching telephone ridge, and the trail is also getting eaten by brush.
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A few prickly poppies

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Dry in the area

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Muddy ground here, but it was wet


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The spring catchment was full, though it was muddy.

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Middle Foote Creek was dry at Tutt Creek Trail intersection, but was trickles and pools the next mile upstream

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The lower 2 miles of Lanphier had good flow, the upper part of the canyon was dry

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I made my first appearance of the year in the Primitive Blue Range with Jackie and the pups this past weekend. We completed a 33 mile backpack utilizing the Blue River Trail, Cow Flat Trail, the Little Blue, Largo and Lamphier Trails. Originally, I had planned for a more mild out and back to Ladron Spring on Cow Flats Trail, with a day of exploring, but high and fast moving water on the Blue had us planning an impromptu backpacking loop, with a long connecting road walk.

We camped at the Blue Crossing Campground Friday night, but still started our hike pretty late in the morning. The road crossings were fine heading to the trailhead, however, it was immediately noticeable that the Blue was flowing strong, as we embarked. The crossings were a little fierce, but we managed through them just fine to start. As with the other end of the Blue River Trail, its really more of just a route, with some occasional nice sections of trail along the bench and several crossings. Most crossings went pretty well, however, the Blue narrows a few times during the route and this created some sections of narrow, deep, fast moving water that were pretty tough to get across. Our luck with the crossings ran out about four miles in when Jackie lost her footing in some deep stuff that I was trying to help her get across. She only went about 15 feet down stream before standing up very shocked and a little wet. Unfortunately, her boots and hiking poles were about 100 feet down stream of us and moving fast. I jumped to the shore, ditched my gear and ran after the boots along the bank and in the water, after a couple of chest deep floaters, some fast water, a little rapids and a few broken toes, I caught the shoes and one hiking pole. Despite being wet and a little humbled, we decided to push on and just be more careful. By luck Jackie spotted her corked hiking pole handle floating up down stream and we were able to reunite the pair of lost poles, with the soaked boots. A real disaster nearly struck shortly after. During a pretty routine crossing, we lost track of Cup briefly. In our horror, when we spotted her, she was down stream completely submerged and trapped under a large log that was sticking out into the water, I sprinted to her and popped her out, but it was brief as she went right back into the tangled branches, below the log. I then pulled her out and up for good. Suprisingly, she swam right to the shore despite's spending a solid 15-20 seconds completely under water. I can't remember the last time I was that scared and amped up and Jackie said it was about the worse thing she ever had to watch, but Cup came away with only a few sneezes and was ready to go after a brief look over.

I had had enough at that point and said we would just push to Cow Flat Trail and skip returning via the Blue. My final crossings involved me going to one side with gear, then dropping gear, coming back to grab Jackie and then walking back over to carry Cup. It was slow going, but safe and surprisingly by the third carry Cup was back to swimming them on her own. All the turmoil of the day seemed to pass pretty quickly when we hit Cow Flat Trail. First we enjoyed the falls created by the robust Ladron spring and then marveled at the .6 miles of perennial cascades and general paradise created by the spring. We enjoyed an amazing spot above the source of the spring, enjoyed a great campfire and perfect overnight temperatures.

Day two was a bit of a grind, but we loved the little cross range trek from the lowest elevations of the Blue Range to just below Bear Mountain. Cow Flat Trail was rugged, warm and dry. We liked the scenery and appreciated its ruggedness, however, we both agree it was terrain only a mother could love. Bear Valley was nice and we spent an extended amount of time there at a nice set of cascades along the Little Blue River Trail. The climb out of Bear Valley was tough and a little warm near the top, but we all hung tough. From there, we coasted down the Little Blue and Largo Trails to Dutch Oven Spring where we camped. That section of trail from the Little Blue down Largo is really nice, especially, with flowing water and we ranked it as some of the best trail we traveled all weekend.

We had a very short hike out Monday morning and then began a very long road walk of about 8.5 miles. One really never wants to have to complete an eight mile plus road walk to finish a hike, but we both agreed that it was a better alternative than trudging back up the Blue River from Cow Flat Trail after our luck on that river the day before. The backpack ended up being superb anyways and we enjoyed it enough to justify the road walk, besides we made it really easy by leaving our heavy packs at the finishing trailhead, before starting off for the Xterra.

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cement trough is full and wash is flowing..

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I headed back to the Blue Range for Memorial Weekend and for the first time, I brought company. We had a loose plan to cover some pretty good ground with a relatively ambitious loop that involved some must-see side trips in my opinion. The plan was enough for myself and Karl, but Chumley and John were not at ease without having everything perfectly laid out. But I assured them it was a little flexible and we had a few plan Bs and Cs worked in there and they were pretty cool with the rough plan I laid out to them.

We drove up Thursday night and despite being pulled over twice on the way (both warnings), we made great time. In fact, we were there in time to enjoy a fire and relax a little. We woke up to frozen water on the rim, but our day got noticeably warmer as we made the last part of the drive down Red Hills road to the trailhead.

We made good time up Largo, but it was a tad dry and warm to appreciate. Telephone Ridge was a bit of a big boy climb with full packs, but we all had enough energy to drop our packs for a quick trip up Bear Mountain. After Bear Mountain, we decided Bear Valley was starting to look like an ideal first night's camp. This was further confirmed when we arrived at the quaint meadow, rich with prime campsites and a trickling creek. After setting up, myself, Karl, Chumley and Blanco hiked further down the Little Blue Trail. This turned out to be an excellent hike, as the trail was in great shape, there were stretches of flowing water and it took a path through some very cool narrows before opening up to a nice section dominated by giant rock spires and monuments. After seeing what seemed to be about the best 2.5 mile section of that trail, we headed back to camp.

On day two we opted for a short trip with our big packs and then a rather large loop into New Mexico via the Tige Rim Trail. We chose Franz Spring and cabin area to camp. After setting up, we all took off for a 15 mile day hike. The Tige Rim loop was hot and dry. The views from the rim were nice and there were a few cool stretches, but the warmer temps and lack of water took away from some of the loop's normal appeal. We we got back to Franz, the worst possible scenario had played out. A group of no likely less than ten people had popped a squat next to us. I knew there was a chance we might bump into some backpackers, but I could have never imagined running into that many people out there. They ended up not being the worst neighbors and our dogs got along, but they were definitely louder than our small group and they insisted on using the outhouse for some reason. To each their own, but it was probably not designed for large backcountry groups with its three feet deep hole, no maintenance and no chemicals. Nevertheless, it was business as usual at camp and we still enjoyed the great spot and did get a chance to chat with a few from the large group. No sour grapes about sharing one of the nicer areas in the Blue Range, I was just not ready to share it with ten people and it ended up not being the nice serene spot I had described. So a small damper on the backpacking trip in my eyes.

A lot of hikers on the trail on the way out, but a quick hike with pretty good trail and very scenic along the flowing sections of Lamphier. A small disappointment on day two, but I enjoyed my three days in the the Blue. I would have liked to cover some more new ground, but it was nice to revisit some spots that I had been intrigued by before and the section of Little Blue we covered on the first day will instantly go on my list of favorites for the area. But overall great times as usual with these guys and I hope the newbies to the area were happy with the change of scenery.

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Filterable water in area of spring, seeps in area trickling out of ground

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Full clean trough, overflowing, strong flow from source

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Full trough, and overflow.

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Light to moderate flow from Indian Springs to Blue/TH
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Bear Mtn Loop - Blue RangeAlpine, AZ
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Lee took the lead on planning this one and it turned out to be a great introduction to the PBR. I was a little surprised to find that this area is much more like the rim country near Payson than the White Mountains as I was expecting. The Blue River valley is only 5500 feet, and while our route took us up to higher elevations, the landscape overall reminded me of the same Mogollon Rim 120 miles farther west.

The upper portion of Sawmill along Telephone Ridge was the highlight of day 1, with big views and a pleasant climb after the steep connector that climbs up from Largo. Bear Mountain is obscured by trees, and the old lookout tower isn't tall enough to see over them. Maybe that's why it's been decommissioned!

Bear Valley is a great spot. I could set up a base camp here and explore. The trip down Little Blue was a great suprise with running water and amazing geology. Huge spires loom above the canyon. I climbed up the ridge adjacent to the canyon to get a better view, but the afternoon sun made it tough to capture any photos. I tried to find trail 341 on the way back to Bear Valley, but I couldn't find even the slightest sign of old tread amongst the fire deadfall and new growth.

Saturday we made the quick trip over to Franz spring and set up camp near the old cabin before heading off to check out the Tige Rim. I had been excited to see this area, but found the reward not to be worth the rest of the hike. It's just a long, hot, dry slog to get to a couple of great view points. In retrospect, I'd skip the loop and just hike the south part of the loop to the views and head back from there.

We returned to camp to find a huge group of people camped right next to us. I'm guessing it was a meetup kind of thing. Apparently they don't backpack into the wilderness looking for peaceful solitude because it didn't occur to them to find a spot to camp that might be just out of view or earshot of others. I've encountered this before, and it is something I will never understand. Might as well have headed for Woods Canyon Lake! :-({|=

In the morning we headed down Lanphier back toward the trailhead. We passed numerous groups along the way. It was actually quite surprising even on a holiday weekend in the Blue. We figured that articles last year in Backpacker (Nov 15) and possibly AZH (July 15) contributed to the 21 cars :o in the parking lot. (We were the only car when we started).

While Lanphier is a pleasant canyon with shade and a stream, I'm not sure I'd like to use it for the ascent. It is steep in places and I could see it really taking it's toll on somebody carrying a heavy pack.

Thanks to Lee for the intro to the PBR. Sorry we didn't make it down to Ladrone. Next time!
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Seeps provide light trickle into good pools downstream of corral.

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Visible seep, muddy water. Irrelevant due to good flow in adjacent creek.

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Lots of seeps with ample opportunities to filter from many different pools

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Just some wet mud. Would be nearly impossible to get anything from this, and not worth the effort.

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Full springbox

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Full springbox. Plenty to filter.

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FOTG has spoken glowingly about the Primitive Blue Range and pics of the area looked intriguing. I jumped at the chance to go when he mentioned it a couple weeks ago and said he would drive. Chumley & Karl joined us and we made a loose hiking itinerary and headed out.

Our group of four, plus Blanco, left Phoenix on Thursday after work and made the long drive to the Primitive Blue Range. We car camped off Red Hill Rd at roughly 8,000ft elevation. I had a hard time sleeping that night. We woke early on Friday and drove to our trailhead and started the hike in. I wasn’t feeling too well from the lack of sleep and was partially dehydrated. Plus I was carrying a heavy pack so that didn’t make things easy.

We started off with the Largo Canyon trail and hiked in several miles and took a break by Dutch Oven Spring. From there we connected onto the Telephone Ridge Trail and headed for Bear Mountain at 8,550 elevation. The climb to the summit took its toll on me and I was glad to finally reach it. We took a break there and then headed southeast for Bear Valley where we set up camp. The others then went for a short hike while I stayed in camp to filter water, prep the fire ring & relax. I was finally feeling better when the others returned and we settled in for dinner and a nice campfire.

We woke on day two and packed up camp and headed northeast for Franz Spring & the cabin. We wanted to get there early hoping to beat other groups to the prime camping spot next to the cabin. We made good time as we climbed the trail to Campbell Flat and then continued on to Franz Spring where we arrived to a vacant camp around 9:30am. We spent the next hour setting up camp and filtering water and then headed northeast for the Tige Rim for a hardy day hike.

The lasso loop around Tige Rim was long, dry & relatively slow going. Most of this section was okay and there were some nice views on a ridge around the halfway point. The heat took its toll on us and Blanco seemed to be having a hard time as he rested in shade every chance he got. Chumley, Karl & I shared our water with him while FOTG looked on with indifference saying he’s been through worse. We continued our lass loop and finally topped out on the high point and it was relatively easy going back to camp as we headed downhill.

We arrived back to Franz Spring to find a large meetup group camped close by. They had a fire going and were very noisy and generally crappy neighbors. One of them walked through our campsite several times to use the outhouse rather than going in the woods. It was annoying but didn’t ruin the weekend for us.

All of us were up early on our third day and packed up camp and hit the trail. We headed down Lanphier Canyon and passed several groups making their way in. The Blue was busy this weekend! We arrived back to the trailhead late morning and packed up our gear. Our backpacking portion of the trip was over and we had plans to day hike & car camp that night.

The Bear Mountain loop is fantastic with great views and the trails are in good condition. I expected more solitude but wasn’t totally surprised considering it was a holiday weekend. I would definitely like to explore more of this area another time.
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FOTG offered up 3 day backpacking in the Primitive Blue Range for Memorial Day Weekend so naturally I was ready to see the Blue again. I've been to this area before but always up for more as this area has always been one of my favorites.

Day 1 was the most difficult with the majority of elevation in the first 6 miles with heavy packs. We started from Lanphier TH, then up Largo Canyon to Telephone Ridge and dropped our packs 1/4 mile from Bear Mountain and then hit the summit. The summit is scenic with cabin and tower however the tower does not have great views which is blocked by trees. Guessing the trees have just grown over time and blocked the view. We enjoyed the summit and then headed back down to our packs and eventually into Bear Valley where we found a cool camp spot. Arriving camp fairly early we had time to day hike about 2.5 miles down Little Blue Creek. As mentioned in the others triplogs it's lush, with intermittent flowing creek and cool rocky spires. It was out and back so we had time to really check out the canyon before returning to camp.

Day 2 we decided to hike over to Franz Spring/Cabin and setup camp. We got to Franz early hoping to be the first and we were. Setup camp near the cabin and then packed up for a 15 mile day hike. The day hike was lasso loop over to Hinkle Spring, then Tigre Rim and loop back to Bonanza Bill trail to Franz Cabin. The loop was a bit hot and dry with only water at Hinkle Spring in 15 miles. Blanco was definitely glad for the day hike to be over. Back at camp we settled in but had to share the camp with a somewhat noisy group of 10+ that had rolled in while we were on our day hike.

Day 3 we just had a short mostly downhill 6 miles out to the TH at Lanphier so light work for this group. Very surprised to see several large groups either camping or on their way into the Blue. FOTG did some research and found that backpacker magazine had published a recent article for this exact area and also Arizona Highways had one around the same time. Having been to the Blue many times in the past 15 years I've never seen so many people at such a remote TH as Lanphier so I can only assume this was the reason. Regardless we had a great 3 days in the Blue!!
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good spring flow into Lanphier Canyon confluence

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good flow for about 3 miles in the creek

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So since I had a diverse crowd with me, and never having been to the area before, I relied on some awesome beta from fellow HAZer FOTG who's been to the area before. He was SO kind to draw me up some tracks on the map to give us options (thank you Lee!!!) So that morning, based on who was going, and what time it was that we'd be starting (and looking at JJ's times and worrying :lol:), we decided on the middle loop of about 13ish mis., but we'd end up cutting off 2 miles of road walking between THs due to Kathy and Frank hiking from Sawmill.

Well, OOPS, we all passed the junction of where we should've turned off and would have done the 13ish loop, and assumed we went up Lanphier (which I was glad, as that was my favorite part of the hike - that canyon was green and lush and gorgeous!!) It turns out that was the big loop that Karl and I secretly wanted to do, but knew the others wouldn't want to. {have to lay it on Karl though, since he's Karl the Compass ;)}

Oh well, I guess I got my birthday wish of doing a long hike, although I felt really badly for the rest of the crew who either wasn't expecting that kind of mileage/AEG or just plain was in pain and HATED it (I won't mention any names Mark, don't worry!) Poor guy.

Tugger, on the other hand, was a TOTAL trooper!!!!!!! Man, he didn't complain once, not once! I love my amazing, athletic, awesome dog! :wlift:

Afterward, drinking beer and wine in the parking lot, and back at camp was worth all the pain and suffering (for me, of putting up with poor Mark, ha!) Then we got a treat of a thunderstorm while cooking/eating dinner - wahoo! :y:

Thanks guys for a fun weekend and a great first exposure to the BRW & PA. I definitely want to go back!
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Amy's birthday weekend so we all headed to Hannagan Meadow on Friday night. Car camped in Hannagan Meadow Campground that night before heading out for Lanphier Canyon TH to do the Bear Mountain Loop. The drive down to the TH is about 1 hour so we didn't get started until about 830.

First up Lanphier Canyon which is very lush and good flow in the first 3.5 miles of this canyon. Then it goes dry just before Cashier Spring but the spring did have a trickle. After that the trail leaves the main canyon and heads over to Franz Spring where we took a break and tanked up on water filtering several liters. Unfortunately this also where we realized a mistake. Originally we had planned on a 12 or 13 mile loop but we passed the turnoff at Largo Canyon and instead kept going straight up Lanphier. As much as the rest of the crew claims I did this on purpose to get more mileage I swear it was a mistake :) Regardless the Franz Spring area was cool to check out or as we were calling it Hanz and Franz Spring. The cabin onsite was in really good shape and the spring tub had plenty of good water to filter.

From there we headed up Cow Flat Trail towards Bear Mountain. This stretch was relatively flat so we made good time despite realizing we had an extra 6 miles to do. Finally made the switchbacks below Bear Mtn and were on top by around 2pm. Took another good break with summit beverage and checked out the cabin and tower.

Then we went down Telephone Ridge and the Sawmill Trail which was slightly different than the true Blue Mtn Loop. Sawmill was much rockier and steeper than all the other trails of the day and doesn't waste time dropping the 3000 AEG down to the Blue River. We met Kathy at Sawmill TH who had driven the vehicle from Lanphier that morning. We had hoped to see Kathy and Frank our dog on the trail but because of the extra mileage she finished before we could catch up. We all met at the Sawmill TH for a post hike beverage before heading back to Hannagan Meadow Campground.
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slow trickle with some very small pools below the source

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Originally, I had planned a four day three night trek into the Primitive Blue Range. However, on the day of my departure I decided I would at least inquire about the weather. My go to guy painted a pretty bleak outlook for the weekend. I decided I would just remain flexible and car camp if necessary and complete several day hikes in the area. I think my weather man was in a bit of a fear mongering mood because the conditions ended up being closer to pretty normal July conditions for the P.B.R. Areas of the high rim country certainly got hammered, but I did not endure through that much nasty weather during the entire trip. That being said, Chumley is pretty spot on most of the time with his weather so I opted for a large day hike on day one a car camp and then playing the rest of the weekend by ear. Sounds like the big storm never really materialized on my side of the state leading to the pretty normal monsoon season conditions for that area.

There were some dark clouds in the morning when I started which provided some immediate reinforcement to my decision to change plans. However, things changed quickly and the rest of the day apart from one small shower was beautiful. In fact, I spent most of the day cursing the fact that I did not bring my camping gear as I passed numerous picture perfect sites nestled away in the Blue Range. However, I know if I had got caught in a nasty electrical storm and downpour I would be cursing the fact that I was not sitting inside my warm well-grounded Xterra listening to a ballgame on satellite radio.

The loop I hiked quickly erased any real disappointment that may have popped up. I borrowed the loop idea from the 100 Hikes in AZ book and basically followed JJ's track from a few years ago, except the four mile detour down into the very scenic and remote Bear Valley. Without overstating the hike too much it was truly memorable and certainly one of my better ones in recent memory. This was due in large part to the amount of wildlife I saw on the hike, the interesting summit of Bear Mountain, a chance encounter with a local and the very scenic Lamphier Trail/Canyon to finish up the day.

Blanco and I had a real cool moment with a sow and her cub appropriately near the summit of Bear Mountain. I spotted the cub first and grabbed Blanco as mom made her way into the picture. She stared at us for quite a long time at a distance of about 30 meters or so, however, I made no threatening gestures or movements towards her and just calmly held Blanco while snapping away with my IPhone of course. She definitely noticed Blanco but just nonchalantly walked away with her cub closely behind after a few minutes. I will be honest if she charged us my plan A involved unleashing Blanco, but it never even came close to that and turned out to be a pretty cool encounter.

Bear Mountain has a pretty interesting summit, but the views are less than spectacular due to the trees. The real nice views will be coming up Telephone Ridge and exiting the mountain via WS Lake Trail #54. I loved Bear Valley, saw my first bobcat/lynx for an extended period of time in AZ, very cool. I ran into an interesting guy at Franz Spring who turned out to possess a wealth of knowledge about the area, more on that in next triplog, but it involves rock piles. I loved the setting at Franz Spring so much that I decided it would be my destination for an over-night trip via Bonanza Bill Trail #23 the next day.

Lamphier Canyon is a little rugged but very scenic especially as you approach the lower elevations and the creek becomes perennial. It was in Lamphier that Blanco and I had our final bear encounter of that day. It was another mom and her cub, however, this sow was much larger and the situation was a little bit more sketchy in the narrow confines of the canyon. I gave her a very wide berth pulled Blanco the other way and did not even attempt a picture until she was far to shaded and in too thick of brush to show up on any pictures taken from my IPhone. Turns out the wettest I got all day was from crossing the Blue.
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