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Palisade Trail #99 - 10 members in 28 triplogs have rated this an average 3.8 ( 1 to 5 best )
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May 10 2025
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Palisade Trail #99Tucson, AZ
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ShatteredArmTriplogs 356
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Got invited out to do some brush work on Palisades trail. Started working a couple miles in where the trail started descending, and made it almost to Mud Spring before I was spent. There's still a half mile or so above Mud Spring that was still left pretty overgrown, but the rest of the trail is pretty clear.

For some reason, they had planned to do this as a shuttle thinking we'd be farther down the trail, so we had a long 7 mile slog down to Hirabayashi, and it got quite warm in sections. Ran out of water at the last saddle, it was quite a struggle.

Mud Spring actually had water despite how dry it had been; would love to see the spring box repaired as this seems to be a fairly reliable water source in a remote area.

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Pretty good trickle near the spring box area, but no pools to collect from.

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Apr 22 2023
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Box Camp - Palisade LoopTucson, AZ
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Decided I wanted to finish Box Camp trail before it gets ridiculously hot, so headed up to Bigelow TH for a 9am start on the Palisade/Box Camp loop. Figured this would allow for a start up Box Camp no too much later than 11am. Upper part of Palisade had some signs of fire, but most of the large trees are intact, and the damage is mostly to fire-hardened vegetation (shrubs). Parts of it were somewhat overgrown in the upper stretches.

Around about Mud Spring, the trail started showing obvious signs of Eric and Co's handiwork. Outside of just a couple of short stretches (work in progress I think), the trail from Mud Spring all the way down to East Fork is an absolute breeze. Now is probably the time to check out Palisades if you don't like wading through grass.

Ran into a couple of trail runners on East Fork, only people I had seen all day. And they recognized me. Think they might have been at one of the trail work outings.

Took 2 hours, 15 minutes to get to the bottom of Box Camp. First 3/4 mile is in great shape (because we cleared it a couple weeks ago), but after that it's the whole wading through grass thing. Didn't really mind it since it was ridiculously steep. Temperature wasn't too bad, sun was hot but when there was a breeze it felt cool. Had to sit down and take a break pretty much every mile on this stretch, my lungs just aren't used to the pace I hike at anymore. Some flowing water in one of the side drainages (near Apache Spring, but not from the spring) provided some nice cool relief.

Eventually, I started seeing hikers, and figured the worst was over. The rest of Box Camp trail is just pleasant. Took something like 3.5 hours to go from one end to the other, it was ridiculous. Probably 80% of the effort was in the first 3.5 miles. I loved the trail, though, in spite of the difficulty (or maybe partly because of it).

Originally had designs to complete the loop by going over Mt Bigelow, but Box Camp is the sort of trail where when completing it, you don't want to do anything else that's not absolutely necessary. Would've gladly accepted a ride back to Bigelow TH had someone at Box Camp TH offered...

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Dry at Palisade Trail, flowing at Box Camp trail.

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Seeping as is usual. Better flow can currently be found nearby in Pine Canyon.

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Light flow in the higher stretches near Palisade Trail.
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Jun 18 2022
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Palisades Trail to Mud Spring, AZ 
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Did a short day hike with my daughter to see Mud Spring, which was of course very muddy. Overall a pleasant respite from the desert heat.
 
May 11 2021
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Box Camp - Palisade LoopTucson, AZ
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one of the few long hikes open up there. i parked at palisade TH and ran up organization ridge road and catalina highway to the box camp TH.

the forested section of box camp is more than half burnt. the middle section clearly sees little traffic and there are manzanita growing over a few key narrow sections. will be hard to pass before too much longer in a couple spots.

easy mile on east fork.

the lower and mid part of palisade is in good shape. up higher where the trees normally start is mostly nuked until the last mile or so.

beautiful weather and i had a good time out there. have not done this loop in a long time. probably can't recommend it though, unless you are a catalina die hard. lot of fire damage
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Palisade Trail #99Tucson, AZ
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Hiking16.00 Miles 5,200 AEG
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May 25, 2020, did a run from Sabino Canyon parking lot to Palisade Ranger Station via Phone Line Trail, Sabino Canyon Trail, East Fork Trail, and Palisade Trail. About 16 miles total, 5,200 accumulated elevation gain. Started at 0545 and ended at 1100, with a 30 minute nap about halfway up. The portion from the Sabino Canyon parking lot to the start of the Palisade Trail was strightforward and familiar, but I'd never done Palisade. What a fantastic trail! I was impressed with the construction of the trail, likely done by forest rangers when this was the principal route to the high country. Extensive rock work, well-engineered switchbacks, and what views! Portions of the old phone line are still visible in the middle section. Imagine the skill and labor required to construct this trail and run that line, all by hand. The trail has sadly deteriorated since that time. Whoever put up all of those cairns...thank you! Lots of overgrown portions, but never too difficult to follow.

Mud Spring was, well, muddy, and was mainly just muddy sheet flow across the trail. I was making time, so I didn't take the time to look around for pools, etc. There were a few tiny areas of standing water at the bottom of the canyon, but they were clearly fading this close to summer. The trail is exposed with little shade along about 90 percent of the route. Start really early in warm weather, or you will suffer!

My wife picked me up at Palisade Ranger Station, and we walked up to Bigelow before driving down the mountain. Next time I think I'll run up Palisade and return via Box Camp, for a full 50k. That will need to wait until cooler weather, though.
 
Sep 21 2019
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Prison Camp to Palisades, AZ 
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GrottoGirlTriplogs 1,634
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I arranged a hike with two groups: up hill and down hill. We took each other’s cars and then swapped keys mid hike. This enabled me to hike a section of the Palisades Trail I hadn’t done yet.
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Jan 19 2018
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Palisade Trail #99Tucson, AZ
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Our hike took place over Palisade Trail #99 and East Fork Trail #39. We had 13 strong hikers, 7 going uphill to Organization Ridge (about 4200 feet aeg) and 6 coming downhill to Prison Camp (thus the low aeg for my track). The trail was in unexpectedly excellent condition and easy to follow. Someone has spent some quality time clearing vegetation and setting up cairns.

I should note that the road access to the Organization Ridge TH is closed off for the winter season. There is plenty of parking space near the exit off Catalina Hwy, and the hike in/out is only about 1/3 mile and not very steep. Just follow the road past the Scout Camp and the Group Camping area.

Surprisingly, there was a good bit of water at Mud Spring; the trough was partially full of stagnant water, and there was flow below the tank. Also, good water pools below Sycamore Dam.

The veiws on the Palisade Trail are outstanding, and best going downhill. Thimble, Blacketts Ridge, Sabino Canyon, Rattlesnake Peak, and Cathedral Peak are visible much of the way. There are several overlook points into upper Pine Canyon (got to try that canyoneering style sometime), however, at one of them, I got buzzed pretty heavily by a guard bee. Don't linger at that point.

Beautiful day for a hike in southern AZ. Didn't see anyone else on the Palisades Trail. Good day out with my hiking buds.
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Palisade/Box Camp Loop, AZ 
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Dropped a car off at the Box Camp TH Saturday night, camped on Bigelow, and then got started down the Palisade Trail around 7:30. I've been around Organization Ridge quite a few times, but I had never been very far down this trail. It was in much better shape than I expected, and though the final descent was quite steep, it was a pretty easy hike down to the East Fork.

Box Camp trail was tough - especially with the sun beating down the first few miles - but I was bracing for much worse than it ended up being. The very steep and often eroded upper portions of the trail were tiring, but the views of Tucson over Sabino Canyon were unreal and definitely worth the effort. It was as clear a day as I can remember. We saw a few nice campsites in the final ~1.5 miles and a very nice shady section with water that reminded us of Mica Mountain. Some really fire-damaged areas near the end.

There was water at Mud Spring (unappetizing though) and sporadically along the BCT, but I wouldn't count on it to last long.
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Nice morning. Started early (5:40am). Lot of monsoon activity going around, but except for a little sprinkle when hiking between Palisade Trail & Bigelow Trail, I was dry all morning.

Started at the Palisade Trailhead, hiked down to East Fork Trail and back up. Then hiked Organization Ridge Road to the Bigelow Trailhead and looked around up top there before heading back. Pretty quiet on Palisade, only 1 couple all morning. Bigelow had quite a bit more.

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the corral was full, and the trail was wet, muddy & covered with ferns where it has continued to run.
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Oct 26 2014
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Prison Camp to Palisades, AZ 
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A rather late start for as warm as it's been. The Palisade Trail is way overgrown; at times route finding was slow.
Total sun exposure most of the way. There was plenty of water in the lower drainages.

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Mt Bigelow from Sabino Canyon, AZ 
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Bigey Bigey Bigey can't you see, sometimes your towers just hypnotize me

been wanting to do this for a while and today seemed as good as any. made pretty good time all day. breeze up top was very pleasant. the birds were a'singing all day :)
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Great outing today on Palisades #99 from Prison Camp. Did a key exchange with my buds Frank, Mike, Sharon, Maureen, Bob, Beaver and Stan. First time on Palisades; the trail is very good with outstanding views. If you haven't done this trail, it's not that difficult, although tiring, and is well marked and easy to follow. Plenty of water at Mud Springs. Will try to post some pics.

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Lots of water at Mud Springs.
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Palisades to Sabino Visitors Center, AZ 
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This hike started out at Box Camp Trail Head and I walked along Catalina Highway to the Palisades Trail. From the Palisade Trail to East Fork Sabino Canyon Trail to East Sabino Canyon Trail to the Phoneline trail and finally to the visitors Center. The hike was mainly down hill (6127 feet) but it is long. There are great views all along the trail but particularly on the Palisade Trail. This was my first time on the Palisade Trail and I thought it was impressive. Normally I prefer to hike uphill, it's easier on the knees and feet but on this hike I'm glad I chose top to bottom. Since this trail follows along ridges and high along canyons there wasn't much water along the way. The exception was Mud spring on the Palisade Trail and east Fork Sabino Canyon. The Palisade Trail was easy to follow and fairly well maintained. The other trails are more heavily traveled and I consider them super highways. Bring a camera and take lots of pictures.
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Pine Canyon - CatalinasTucson, AZ
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It took little for us to convince Zona to help us explore Pine Canyon. Without him, we'd be stuck on the top of the first cliff with a wistful look in our eyes. With him, we were able to strap on our harnesses and helmets and step off into oblivion. The hook for him was a new adventure he hadn't done...

We headed down Palisades trail almost to Mud spring. At this point the trail is close to Pine Canyon. We spotted a small cairn that marked a route down into the canyon over some downfall.

Our entry into the canyon caused a stir. The smell of Mount Lemmon Marigold was great. Even more of a treat was to find not only the refreshing whiff but also the yellow blooms.

We stopped for a break when we hit the white granite of the rocks that lined the canyon. There was a great view looking down into Sabino Basin. We could see the Thimble, Blackett's ridge, and even a little further in the distance stands the Old Pueblo.

There was a little flowing water in the drainage. Enough to provide a pleasant musical background but not enough to spoil our journey by making the rocks to slick to traverse.

The first rappel was about 60 feet. Zona set it up using a tree on the side.

From there we continued our canyon hop to the second rappel which was a dizzying 150 feet anchored to a dead tree. Repeat that - a dead tree. Amazingly I wasn't very nervous as he had also anchored it to a rock behind the tree since there were 8 of us rappelling.

The canyon seemed to keep going. Around pools, over rocks, through deadfall we went. I was getting tired as I was carrying one of the ropes which had soaked up some water on the last rappel. I was stubborn and kept going.

We hit the last technical section where the canyon narrowed drastically to a V. Before it we had to traverse a pool in which some did a spread eagle move to get around. I decided I was to tired to try to do that without doing the splits so I just waded in. This next was section is probably more of a down climb but we rappeled it. If you were unlucky like Joel at one point you'd go crashing into the side of the canyon and bruise your ribs.

We stopped to fill up on water even though we were almost done with the canyon. We knew we still had at least 4 trail miles to go. I finally gave up the rope to one of the guys and by the time I hit the trail I was ready to cruise.

We still had to get from the canon to the trail. There was two choices. We could finish the canyon and hit the trail there or we could bushwhack up a slope and hit the trail at the saddle. Of course I've never met a bushwhack I didn't like so up the hillside we went. I was still recovering from carrying the rope so I got into follow mode. I didn't realize that the small group I was with didn't contour when the others had. Instead, we nearly cliffed out. But we did finally find a game trail that lead us out of danger. This did eat up some time.

When we hit the trail the sun was starting to set. Luckily I discovered that all my hikers were experienced and many headlamps were coming up the trail behind me. I like to hike in the dark so I hurried on ahead so I wasn't affected by their lights.

We spent about 12 hours on our adventure. It was definitely an awesome experience but not for those who aren't up for a challenge.
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Pretty much as described. When you reach Mudd Spring there is a large down tree blocking the trail. Over or under neither is exactly "convenient", but if you proceed you'll likely have the rest of the trail to yourself. The trail stays more or less level and relatively easy to follow for the next "while", but as you begin downslope into the East Fork drainage it becomes progressively brushier (grassy actually) and harder to discern. That said, it's still very "do-able", but pay close attention (not easily accomplished with such great views in every direction...!). As advertised, there are cairns, but not always where most needed. Still, we only lost the trail briefly on two occasions. If you do lose it entirely it could prove labyrinthine picking your way through the various minor cliff bands. Gaiters are recommended as the grass (Love Grass, methinks) has a little needle-like seed (?) that has an affinity for socks.

We originally intended to make a loop out of this incorporating the East Fork Trail and Box Canyon, but were disappointed by not finding any water when we hit the EF (it was supposedly "the wettest September on record"...). We turned the opposite direction on the EF trail and intersected the Bear Canyon/Sycamore Canyon/East Fork saddle whereupon we descended into the Sycamore drainage and hit a magnificent (by Catalina standards) flowing stream. We rejoiced at not being forced into a dry camp (we were OUT of H2O at this juncture). We tanked up and continued on toward the Prison Camp area to spend the night. We slept soundly on solid rock at "The Marryin' Place" above the popular Prion Camp climbing area, Jailhouse Rock.

The next morning we started to repay the debt we incurred by hiking downhill all day on Saturday. Not sure exactly what the cumulative elevation gain was, but I'd be surprised if it weren't in excess of 5,000 feet. The Bug Spring trail was HOT until we descended into the lovely little riparian area that connects it to the Bear Canyon Picnic Area. From there we continued on the Green Mountain Trail to the San Pedro Overlook then by road (2.5 miles more or less) back to the Pallisades Trailhead. It was quite the tour taking in a LOT of what Lemmon has to offer.

Note: Mileages and elevations are VERY rough estimates.
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Palisades to Prison Camp

It has been a long time since I have been backpacking- since my Royal Arch via Point Huitzil trip in April. I was super-excited to put the big pack back on and spend a night out close to home. I have been trying to complete all the trails in the Catalinas, so I searched the map for something appropriate. Last summer, I did a hike on the Box Camp Trail and spent the night at Hutch's Pool before hiking out to Sabino Canyon. I decided that the Palisades Trail, with a night at Hutch's Pool and out to Prison Camp, would be a good day and a half adventure, albeit a little toasty in the lower reaches. I parked my car at Prison Camp, also known as Gordon Hirabayashi Campground, and checked out the signs and the ruins since I was a bit early. Click http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/coronado/forest ... tory.shtml to read the story of the Prison Camp, it's very interesting and sad. I waited by the side of the Catalina Highway to get a ride with some friends from the Tucson Hiking Meetup group that were driving up to hike the Mint Springs Trail near Summerhaven. While I was waiting, I saw a skateboarder coming down the mountain, followed closely by his friend in a pickup truck. Don't see that everyday! Bill Carter was kind enough to let me hitch a ride up to Organization Ridge Road, where I started my trek.

It felt so good to strap on the big pack, even though it was heavy with a gallon and a half of water. It has been a very bad year for precipitation and a lot of the usual water sources have been dry, so I carried all I'd need to get myself to Hutch's Pool, one of the sure-fire water sources in the Catalinas. I walked the short distance down the road to the Palisades Trailhead- there were quite a few cars there for 9am on a Wednesday morning. The trail marker said 6.8 miles to the East Fork junction. I was super-excited about the prospect of seeing fresh scenery in the Catalinas, and was practically dancing down the trail. There were low-hanging clouds and the occasional rumble of far-off thunder. I immediately came upon several stands of wildflowers.

The trail was wide and easy to follow as I came into a burned area. I got my umbrella out since my tree cover was gone. The views of the front range were obscured by low clouds that would burn off as the day progressed. Here's a video taken near the wilderness boundary- you can hear how excited I am to be out backpacking: http://youtu.be/2ufpr3HE4w4

The trail followed the burnt ridgeline for a while, passing more boulders and rock formations as I lost elevation. Then rugged Pine Canyon came into view. As the trail traversed into Pine Canyon, views opened south to an interesting view of Thimble Peak. I stood aside to let a large group of Southern Arizona Hiking Club members pass by. One of the hikers stopped to ask me about my plans, and looked a little worried when I told her I was heading downhill in the heat of the day. I told her that I was carrying about 6 liters of water and that I hike all summer long. Right after my encounter with the hiking group, I walked into a muddy area full of bright green ferns known quite aptly as Mud Springs. I didn't go investigate the pools that are supposed to be in the drainage, but there was a trickle of water running across the trail. The trail had been mostly cool, with cloud cover up until this point, so I didn't really need extra water. Video just below Mud Springs: http://youtu.be/aw_PO9D-Ddk

I knew that the trail between Mud Springs and the East Fork gets a lot less use, so I wasn't sure what to expect as far as navigation. Fortunately, someone had cairned the heck out of the lower trail, so there was hardly a spot that I didn't know where to go. The trail criss-crossed the dry creekbed, sometimes through stands of oak and juniper, but most of the time on exposed grasslands. I crossed an old, rusty wire strung across the trail several times and saw a broken white insulator. The trail gave great views of a 150-f00t waterfall in Pine Canyon. Sadly, it was dry. The trail then made a traverse across the nose of the ridge through some great rocky outcroppings, one that had fantastic views of the whole Sabino Basin. here's a video: http://youtu.be/J6TkVCunuPc

After the rocky outlook, the trail switchbacked down with views of Palisades Canyon, Sabino Canyon Trail, and the Box Camp Trail where it meets the West Fork. The trail does not match the old alignment shown on the Topo map, it was very clearly cairned in the tall grasses. I could see the canopy of the East Fork and couldn't reach it fast enough- my head was getting increasingly hot even underneath the umbrella. It was 12:30 and toasty by the time I crossed the bone-dry East Fork and reached the trail junction. I was a little sad that there was absolutely no water to be found. I took a break at the junction, and it was completely bug-infested, so badly that I had to wear my earphones to drown out the sound of the no-see-ums and mosquitoes. After eating and cooling off for a bit, I went to investigate the weather-I had heard thunder and saw that there was lightning over the West Fork, right where I was planning on staying at Hutch's Pool.

I had a decision to make. I had only two liters of water left, and it was around 3pm when it started to rain. I made one last-ditch attempt to get some more water by turning my umbrella upside-down, but only collected about two cups of rainwater. My desire to sleep out under the stars plummeted as I realized that it would be a hot, buggy night at Hutch's Pool and I was already covered in bites. I decided to hike all the way out and had cloud cover for the lazy switchbacks that climb out of the East Fork. I passed the Bear Canyon junction and made my way toward the Sycamore Canyon reservoir, but didn't make the trip over to visit. I have always found the water I've filtered from there to taste disgusting. I had the one last climb out from the reservoir to Shreve Saddle, a climb that I have always approached at the end of a long day, and it always kicks my butt. There is the most hilarious giant Arizona Trail sign at Shreve Saddle- they put the big metal signs in the most unlikely places.

At the saddle, it began to rain again and I called Mr. Sirena to tell him that I'd be home early. I reached the Soldier Canyon Trail junction, which is about a quarter mile from the trailhead, and my right quad started to spasm with every step. Good thing that didn't happen a couple of miles back! Finally made it back to my Jeep just before 6pm, quite a long, hot day for the middle of the summer. I would not recommend this hike in the summertime to people not acclimated to hiking in the heat.
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Left the trailhead at 6:45 am; arrived at Tram Stop 9 at 1:45 p.m.

The trail was easy to follow to Mud Spring. After that there were places that would have been very difficult to find the trail, except for the many, many cairns along the way. We didn't think this was an exceptionally pretty trail, mostly due to fire damage. Even though it's been years since the fire, you can still see dead ferns along the way...and they're usually some of the first plants to come back. But it was an interesting hike with spectacular views....for us it was a good training hike for the North Kaibab trail to be done later this spring.
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My buddy from Tucson has been joining me up on rim for our last few canyoneering adventures, so I figured I'd switch gears and drive south and do one in his backyard. I've done all the moderate/easy published canyoneering routes down there with him, but I figured with a little more experience under our belts that we were ready for one of the Big Boy canyons in the area. :y:

We woke up pretty early, dropped a car off at Sabino Canyon parking lot, and drove up to the Palisades TH. We had 5 miles of downhill trail until our drop-in point and we made pretty good time down the mountain. :sweat: Off trailing it down to the canyon wasn't too crazy though my socks got covered in loads of sticky seeds... ;) I figured it was about 50/50 on whether the canyon would be flowing or not so I was super stoked to find it flowing knowing we'd be doing some sweet waterfall rappeling today! :y: We took a light break when we hit the canyon and gear up into our shorty wetsuits and gear and slowly made our way down creek. It didn't take very long before we hit the super sweet narrows section and the first of many wet rappels with an awseome view down canyon of at least a few more waterfalls . We had to rework the anchor on that first 150ft double drop by putting the webbing under a huge rock and stacking other rocks on top of it so that it wouldn't slip off. What a sweet rappel to start the day with and it had a 30ft slide down into a pool and then another 100ft or so over the next falls! :D Once at the bottom of that, we pulled the rope and re-rigged it for the next 100ft drop down another slide to a small ledge with the water shooting out and down another chute into a swimmer. Rappel #3 was from the slippery lip on the far side of the swimmer and after pulling the rope, I had to swim over to the 2 pitons to rig the next rappel down a mostly vertical 85ft waterfall into a swimmer. :D The next rappel was also right afterwards and we had to rig a new anchor around a huge boulder in the watercourse before making the next 100ft slippery drop into another swimmer. Whew, this has to be one of the best canyons I've done this summer and there's still more to come!!! :y: After climbing to the side of a small waterfall, Steve rigged the rope for rappel #5 from two piton for yet another super sweet 100ft slippery rappel. The view back up canyon was quite amazing and crazy to realize we just rappled down all those falls! :o We had a light break from the falls, so we stuffed the ropes and did some rock hopping downstream a bit before hitting the big 160ft double drop. It's possible to rappel out of the watercourse here, but I highly recommend going right down the slide and over the falls so you can get a refreshing shower in the overhanging section. :D The rope pull on this rappel was a little difficult but we slowly got it down and stuffed the ropes again for a bit more rock hopping. The final 85ft rappel #7 was the tricky one of the day and unfortunately the falls go down a tight chute and would have been too difficult to rappel and retrieve the rope, so we had to do a dry rappel on the right side of that huge overhung chockstone down into some bushes before droppinto a pool. Steve rammed a rock in a crack to make the rope pull easier, but it came out while I was rappeling and almost tagged me in the helmet :lol: so Scott had to put another one in and the rope pull was just fine. Once at the bottom, we were able to stuff the ropes for the final time and strip out gear & wetsuits off for the long scenic rock hop downstream to the confluence with the east fork of Sabino Canyon. It got a little toasty so we'd dunk it some pools along the way to cool off and take a break from all the bushwhacking, rock hopping, and down climbing. :sweat:

We had opted for the slightly longer yet easier downhill 6.5 mile exit down the Sabino Canyon trail & walk the road back to the parking lot. It got a little toasty along that trail, but it was nice to be back on an actual trail and at least it was mostly downhill. I nicely asked the tram driver if we could hop on for free ride since its a warm summer day but he had no simpathy for us. :roll: The scenic road walk went by fairly quickly while enjoying the sunset and it was within 3G range, so my new iPhone kept me from getting too bored while doing the easy stroll back to the car. Though pounding pavement seemed to take an extra toll on our already tired legs. :roll: Still not a bad way to end such an amazing day of canyoneering! :D
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