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Squaw Canyon and Black Mtn (3707) - 2 members in 7 triplogs have rated this an average 3.5 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Supes Walkabout, AZ 
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pseudalpineTriplogs 1,290
Hiking24.88 Miles 4,069 AEG
Hiking24.88 Miles   10 Hrs   40 Mns   2.46 mph
4,069 ft AEG      32 Mns Break
 
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Nov 25 2023
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Squaw Canyon and Black Mtn (3707)Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Hiking avatar Nov 25 2023
ScottHikaTriplogs 50
Hiking22.40 Miles 4,963 AEG
Hiking22.40 Miles
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1st trip
Black Mountain 3707 summit lollipop with Shelly. The days are short so planned darkness to darkness and it was. I really enjoyed this 22+ mile trip, but clowned around too much to make decent time. Our route was to be counter clockwise Bluff Spring 235, Dutchman 104, Peters 105, Summit, Squaw Canyon, Cavalry 239, Terrapin 234, and Bluff Spring back.

The temps were forecasted in the 50s to 70s, which they were. From Peralta we began to a half full lot before dawn. There were nice clouds in the am that burned off by the pm. We were passing through Barks and sunrise and continued with a few side trips. My err in judgement was to take the sides forgetting we’d be pressed for time. I got lost in the moment and didn’t get my partner back on time.

There were still a few isolated pools from rain 2 weeks ago. There were four backpacking/camping groups in Bluff Spring area including a family of over a dozen. Side one was up to Bluff Spring. It was odd to me that some of the backpackers were unaware that there was even a spring there. Bluff is returning to nature, more overgrown than before but still trickles a quart a minute.

Side two La Barge is near fall colors with some change but about a month away from prime. The spring itself is vastly overgrown with rubus. Not sure which variety blackberry, raspberry, or? but no telling where it will stop. I remember standing on the box not that long ago, now completely buried. It is flowing strong at a gallon+ a minute. There were multiple campers there as well.

Side three to Charlebois. We saw the first hiker of the day on Peters 105 heading up to the summit. I scored a small personal victory by finding and removing I believe the last red spray painted cairn on the long trail. Up top the upper plateau is timeless and familiar. We crossed it and made way up to the Summit. Black Mountain 3707 register was still there in small jar but Shelly brought a nice glow in the dark waterproof box just in case. We had a snack and off before we knew it. We were behind schedule as we crossed for Squaw Canyon. I’ve never liked going up that canyon so chose the route down specifically. One more side trip and then the tortuous drop down to the Cavalry Trail. I’m not sure that I’ll ever take that route again. I’m fairly certain that fire, scree and rockfall have removed anything that would be considered a trail. The loose slope meant I spent more time falling on my backside than anything else I can remember. We connected to an old horse trail as we got lower in the canyon.

The trail route back was uneventful with several small stops to reenergize before reaching a dark Peralta. I love this time of year and any chance to hike the Superstition Mountains. It's so much prettier with water but we have not been blessed this season. My companion was a rock star. The shorter days make long day hikes like this problematic but worth it.
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Overrun with rubus but spring was strong as always.

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Apr 02 2023
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 Joined Mar 01 2018
 Chandler, AZ
Black Mountain via Peralta Trailhead, AZ 
Black Mountain via Peralta Trailhead, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Apr 02 2023
John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking19.51 Miles 3,518 AEG
Hiking19.51 Miles   10 Hrs   13 Mns   2.14 mph
3,518 ft AEG   1 Hour   6 Mns Break
 
1st trip
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I'd planned on hiking to Black Mountain via Tortilla Trailhead for a while, following @ScottHika's route from Dec. 2021 [ triplog ] . I ended up changing plans and started from Peralta TH after realizing that the distance to Black Mtn would come out about the same but would cut down the driving time, and I remembered dealing with quite a bit of catclaw along some sections of Peter's Trail closer to Tortilla TH when I was out that way last year.

We headed up Bluff Spring Trail, and there was a lot of great color from the start--the hillsides were covered in yellow, with a lot of other colorful flowers and cactus blooms mixed in. And there was a decent flow of water in most of the crossings today, which was also nice to see. We passed quite a few backpackers hiking out as we continued along Bluff Spring and then onto Dutchman, including one group that was having problems with their water filter and asked if we had one with us, which we didn't.

Seven miles in, we turned onto Peter's Trail to circle around to the east side of Black Mountain. This was my first time hiking that portion of #105, and I was expecting it to be steep and overgrown, but it wasn't bad in either aspect. A little over two miles from the summit, it looked like time was going to be tight to reach the peak before our turnaround time, so TboneKathy waited and I continued on to see if I could make it...I wasn't sure what to expect on the off-trail portion at the end.

Continuing on Peter's Trail, I started to see the red-painted cairns that were all too common farther east on the trail last year. Apparently the idiot with spray paint was thorough when he painted the cairns...I tossed a few of those off the trail on my way. I also passed a rock wall built across a drainage east of the trail that looked looked like a dam of some kind. Plenty of people have posted pictures of the wall in photosets, but I haven't seen any guesses about what it is [ photo ] .

Other than a few tangles with catclaw across the trail, it was smooth sailing, and I was happy to see that the final off-trail portion to the peak was about as easy as it gets--not much brush, not steep, and no major obstacles, and I reached the summit with plenty of time to enjoy a break at the top. The false summit just north of 3707 offered an even better perspective overlooking Squaw Canyon...I wasn't sure if Triangle Cave [ photo ] would be visible from the peak, but it was, and it was a cool vantagepoint looking down on it from above.

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I remembered seeing a summit register in ScottHika's photoset, so I didn't bring one with me. I spent a few minutes searching but didn't find the one he left there in 2021 [ photo ] . I guess it's well hidden...I must've been right next to it. But I ate a snack, enjoyed the views, then headed back down to rejoin TboneKathy for the hike out. Frogs (maybe bullfrogs or leopard frogs?) were calling in Lower Barks Canyon in the late afternoon, which was a nice bonus [ youtube video ] . It was a great day in the Superstitions...perfect temperatures from start to finish, and it's always fun visiting a new summit.
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Feb 05 2022
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 Chandler, AZ
Squaw Canyon and Triangle Cave, AZ 
Squaw Canyon and Triangle Cave, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Feb 05 2022
John10sTriplogs 346
Hiking18.15 Miles 2,759 AEG
Hiking18.15 Miles   10 Hrs   18 Mns   2.06 mph
2,759 ft AEG   1 Hour   29 Mns Break
1st trip
On a hike to Charlebois Spring three weeks ago, we noticed an intriguing cave high up on the canyon wall in Squaw Canyon/Marsh Valley. I took some zoomed-in shots that looked promising [ photo ] , but we didn't have time to explore it that day. So, today we returned to do some off-trail exploring in Squaw Canyon, with "Triangle Cave" the main destination.

We started from First Water Trailhead, and the parking lot was almost full when we pulled in around 7AM...full of vehicles and campers. Someone had set up a tent in one parking spot, and another person was sleeping outside in a sleeping bag in the spot next to it. A bold move, and also a fairly selfish move with a nearly-full lot when there are plenty of places to camp that aren't in numbered parking spaces :).

The creek beds and washes still had some water, but not nearly as much as we saw three weeks ago. It was still trickling and flowing in most spots, but there were also a lot more stagnant pools and algae this time. I was pleasantly surprised by how few people we saw on the trails after seeing the crowded parking lot. We took Dutchman Trail to Bull Pass and got our first views of Triangle Cave off in the distance, then diverged from our pervious Charlebois route and turned onto Cavalry Trail. The water was especially deep and clear near Squaw Canyon, and that was where we headed off-trail toward the cave. It looked like we had a long, slow bushwhack up the side of the mountain. @TboneKathy opted to stay down below, and I left some stuff with her to lighten my pack and took off.

I stayed in the drainage, where the brush wasn't as bad, as long as I could and then headed up the slope. It was exactly as described in the guide:
Loose scree, cacti, and all sorts of evil vegetation awaiting you. Due to the ruggedness of terrain, 1 mile/hr is about as good as you can expect unless you are super-Wally.
I channeled my inner Super-Wally and tried to keep a decent pace as I made my way around the vertical rock outcroppings and the thicker stands of catclaw, and I made it up in ~40-45 minutes. The cave entrance is located on a ledge ~10 feet high, and I started to climb up the right side, but it looked a lot easier to go around to the left, so I did that instead. At the base of the ledge directly below the cave, I came across an old, rusty shovel head and a piece of red pottery--the first sign of habitation.

As I approached on the ledge, I heard a lot of buzzing, and I hoped it wasn't one of those caves swarming with territorial bees. Luckily, they seemed to hang out just on that one side and weren't an issue inside the cave. It was shallower than I'd expected--I guess the guide does refer to it as an alcove--but the views looking out toward Weaver's Needle and the creek below were fantastic.

Unfortunately, the comment about the site being destroyed by pot hunters/vandals is certainly true--whatever dwellings may have existed inside are virtually unrecognizable as anything more than random piles of rock. The middle of the cave's opening has a pile of rubble and boulders that creates a separate opening--it looked like a big chunk of overhanging rock may have crumbled off from above at some point. I came across some bones and a few more pottery sherds, though it appears just about everything has been removed. The most interesting artifacts inside were a grinding hole/grinding stone and another rock nearby with a recession that appeared to be used for grinding as well. I didn't see the vandals' sledgehammer mentioned in the guide, nor did I see a second metate that @nonot mentioned in his 2010 triplog...maybe that's also been removed, or I didn't look closely enough.

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Even though there's not much left of the site, it was a lot of fun exploring and worth the climb. I took some pictures and videos, enjoyed the views, and then started the dreaded descent back down the scree slope. It was slower than the climb up, but on the way down, I noticed a rock bridge tucked back in a corner in the east canyon wall that I recognized from some of Super-Wally's old photosets :). Once I was back on flatter ground, I came across an old, squared-off shovel head in the drainage.

On our hike out, we took Dutchman around the south side of Black Top Mesa, and I went off-trail to check out an alcove I noticed last time that looked like it had some walls at the bottom, though I suspected they were modern. I was right on both counts--there were walls, and they were modern, with a campfire ring inside.

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Someone went to a lot of work to set up a campsite in a very inconvenient location, but the views of Aylor's Arch and Weaver's Needle were great. It was another good day in the Superstitions--perfect weather, great scenery, and some fun off-trail. It would be interesting to know what that site looked like before it was destroyed...
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Dec 11 2021
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Peter's MesaPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking avatar Dec 11 2021
ScottHikaTriplogs 50
Hiking19.65 Miles 4,291 AEG
Hiking19.65 Miles   9 Hrs   40 Mns   2.20 mph
4,291 ft AEG      45 Mns Break20 LBS Pack
 
1st trip
I took a trip to Black Mountain Summit over Peter’s Mesa. I was trying to find summit logs but only got a few. I’m sure more have been up there but not many wrote about it? I figured I’d either be hiking in the dark in the morning or hiking in the dark coming back. I opted to sleep in and have breakfast with my family before heading out. I got to Tortilla 213 around 9am. There were 4 cars in the lot, which is a lot from my experience. Tortilla always looks dry to me and today the yellow hills were no exception. I’ve been here many times so I jumped on the trail without much ceremony. Soon I was at Peter’s 105 battling catclaw. We really need a trail crew to go through there with the big loppers and widen the narrowing passages. Some places are so think that it’s easier to go around than to stay “on trail”. I often do maintenance, but decided I didn’t have time to dilly-dally.

I’ve seen Peter’s in much better shape, but not crying about it. Not enough people ever tramp through there to make a really clear reliable trail. Also since it follows canyons, It’s hard to get lost and always alternate routes to be taken.
The rain 2 days ago left puddles and little more water for the duration of the hike. I always carry but have a filter too. Didn’t need it. There were still Sycamore and other trees showing fall colors in Tortilla Creek. Kane spring was running like clockwork and the actual spring source always looks the same. If you haven’t been there, the trees around the spring took a bad hit from the Sawtooth fire. Everything around it looks bad. Back on Peter’s I was again assaulted by the red rock bandit. Spray painted cairns kept popping up. I was thinking the painter was back?? I guess It’s possible that I missed a bunch the last few times? I did what I could, and disposed of a few dozen more red cairns.

I made pretty good time and was up top around 4 hours later. Searching I found no summit register so added a small one. There is a false summit (GPS says 10 feet lower) so I’m pretty sure I got the right one. Anyway just a formality if I didn’t, I suppose. It was hazy so the pictures came out ok but not stellar. I poked around a small bit but there isn’t much daylight this time of year. I had a snack and relaxed and then I put on my track shoes and made good time back to Tortilla a bit after dark.
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Mar 21 2010
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Marsh Valley LoopPhoenix, AZ
Phoenix, AZ
Backpack avatar Mar 21 2010
nonotTriplogs 514
Backpack26.60 Miles 3,550 AEG
Backpack26.60 Miles3 Days   17 Hrs      
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1st trip
What a wonderful weekend.

Originally I has a version of this loop to do a few weekends back, but my partner cancelled and I had another opportunity come up, so I saved the idea about a dayhike. Then I got to thinking that I hadn't backpacked yet at all this year! Well, what to do with that extra time? Add some off trail exploring! :y:

I found all sorts of interesting things off trail. One of the best was the metate Wally photographed in his insane dayhike. I found a second metate as well.

Saw lots of people about in the Superstitions this weekend, it's really a special time to be out there with the water and greenery.
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Squaw Canyon and Black Mtn (3707)Phoenix, AZ
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Hiking3.50 Miles 1,600 AEG
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Nice workout. Good views. Definitely a good, quick workout.
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