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Bootlegger Trail #257 - 1 member in 8 triplogs has rated this an average 4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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Nov 11 2022
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Hawknest Trail - MSPNPhoenix, AZ
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YoderTriplogs 273
Hiking14.00 Miles 950 AEG
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Wanted to check out the Hawknest trail, but no easy way up there since there doesn't seem to be any trailheads you can park at in the immediate area. So I made up a 14 mile loop that will get me up there to hike a bit of it. Since it's a pretty flat area and temperatures seemed like they should be fine for the day, we headed out early in the morning.

Started off from the Granite Mountain Trailhead, we started our hike about 6:30. Things were pretty uneventful as we made our way up to Hawknest trail taking a variety of trails to get there. Hawknest trail was quite nice and mostly quiet although we did run into a couple of bikers as we made our way. Name of the trail does not disappoint, saw a couple of groupings of Harris's Hawks and got some excellent photos.

As we dropped onto the Divide trail we started to run into more bikers, and the numbers steadily increased as we continued to make our way back to the trailhead. At one point we ran into a group of 12 older bikers, and ended up playing tag with them for the next couple of hours, we must have passed them, and had them pass us about 4 times..... ](*,) . Anyhow, as we jumped onto the Granite Mountain Loop trail the hordes of bikers and hikers was on. Glad to get back to the car. Luckly we had a good 70% of the hike to ourselves before we started to run into folks.

All in all a good day.
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Mar 21 2020
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 Phoenix, AZ
Bootlegger Trail Loop, AZ 
Bootlegger Trail Loop, AZ
 
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Hiking2.90 Miles 340 AEG
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Needed a short scenic hike for the whole family so picked this one in the McDowell Sonoran Preserve North. A beautiful day, the desert was so green it made me think I was back in Oregon, and the wildflowers were putting on a good show. There were lots of hikers and mountain bikers on the trails so a little crowded at times.
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Nov 05 2019
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Rock Creek Bootlegger Loop, AZ 
Rock Creek Bootlegger Loop, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Nov 05 2019
markthurman53Triplogs 865
Hiking15.13 Miles 3,534 AEG
Hiking15.13 Miles   8 Hrs   54 Mns   2.18 mph
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1st trip
Another one day hike in the Chiricahua Mountains. Again in Turkey Creek area. On the drive in just before sunrise I saw a group of about 30 turkeys in or along the road. Don't think I ever saw that many in a group except in the supermarket frozen section. Guajolote Creek is holding up to it's name. This was a 15 mile loop hike along the Rock Creek, Bootlegger, Rattlesnake and Saulsbury Trails. With 3600 feet of elevation gain I was pretty pooped after this hike. Most trails were in fair condition some requiring close scrutiny to keep from loosing the trail and one 1 mile section on the Rattlesnake Trail that headed from Witch Ridge to Rock Creek that was more of a controlled fall. If there was a trail here it is long gone. Nothing but a push through brush, some of which had really nasty thorns. Spent the evening when I got home pulling out the ones that went through my trousers and lodged in my leg. Great hike and was able to complete a few more trails I didn't get to the last time I was here. On the way out at the mouth of Turkey Canyon is the Grave site of Johnny Ringo, I stopped to check it out. Lots of history behind this grave, the internet has a lot of the story, some truth some speculation. Beautiful sunset on the drive home didn't stop to take pictures but it was amazing. I also looked for Anticrepuscular rays but I didn't see any, guess the conditions weren't right.

TURKEY PEN TRAIL #262
This is the second time on this trail in two weeks. Pleasure to be on a trail that actually looks and feels like a trail. No one else has been on the trail in the last week because my boot prints from last week were the only prints on the trail (not counting the deer and turkey prints that covered mine in one area). Turkey pen canyon still had a few pools of water but nothing running.

ROCK CREEK TRAIL #259
This is the middle upper portion that I had not done before. This section is from Turkey Pen Trail to Rock Saddle at the Bootlegger Trail. From Rock Saddle to the Crest Trail at Bootlegger Saddle I completed last summer. The section from Fife Canyon to Turkey Pen Trail I did last week. The only section left is from Fife Canyon to the National Forest Boundary (.75 miles). When I complete that last part I will write a description and post.

The trail from fife Canyon to the Rock Saddle is there but requires a little searching in spots. This trail follows along an old logging road but the road is not apparent except in a few places. The trail follows the creek or along side it and is marked fairly well with cairns where it enters or exits the creek. This canyon along the creek was not affected by the fires so dead fall other than normal is minimal, the only exception is the upper portion before hitting Rock Saddle. Rock Creek had pools in sections and running water also sporadically.

Bootlegger Trail #257
This hike covers the Bootlegger Trail from Rock Saddle to the Rattlesnake Trail. I completed the upper portion from Rock Saddle to the Crest trail at Rustler park last summer. I will write a description for this trail but one already exists but it shows the Bootlegger Trail going from Rustler Park to Bootlegger Saddle. Maybe I could call it Bootlegger Trail #257 2.

The Bootlegger trail is very faint most of the way but follow the GPS route and there should be no problem. Rock cairns mark the trail in strategic locations. Since this is a ridge trail the views south- West and North are excellent. Aiding in the views is the fact that the north side of the ridge was heavily affected by fires so there are no trees to block the view. This trail ends at the Rattlesnake trail just below Rattle Rock Saddle.

RATTLESNAKE TRAIL #275 SOUTH
The Rattlesnake trail starts from the north in Pine Canyon and climbs up to a saddle on Witch Ridge at the junction of the Witch Ridge Trail #260 and the Bootlegger Trail #257. I completed this portion last week. This hike is from the ridge down to Rock Creek. The map shows a trail here but it is long gone. I followed the route for this one mile stretch but it was kind of pointless. I did notice when I was on track that in the middle portion I was following what looked like a trail but was so badly overgrown. The last portion I gave up trying to stay on track and just headed down toward Rock Creek. Lots of brush/trees and some kind of sticker bush with thorns from hell. Didn't notice till I got home that when I felt my leg and there were dozens of little thorns embedded in my skin. Time to break out the jewelers glasses and tweezers.

Was planning on doing a description for this trail as the one posted shows the Rattlesnake Trail heading up to Rock Saddle. The Rattle Snake Trail actually heads up to the ridge from Pine Canyon and then heads back down to Rock Creek. Not sure I want to post a hike for a portion of trail that doesn't exist anymore, unless it was for historical reference.

SAULSBURY TRAIL #263

Both the Saulsbury #263 and the Saulsbury Connector Trail #263A are in good condition. The connector trail is a little vague at first from rock creek but just go up. This trail soon becomes quite obvious and is marked with cairns occasionally. The connector trail is very steep, no switchbacks, it just sees where it wants to get and goes there directly. 500 feet in .4 miles. Smokers night want to consider an alternate route, it's a lung burner. Luckily it is only .4 miles long.

The Saulsbury Trail from Saulsbury Saddle is a little steep if going up but then the complete trail from Turkey Creek to the Crest Trail has to go up 3000 feet in 5 miles. There was a little water in lower Saulsbury Canyon near what looked like a spring but other than that was dry. The sign at the trail head in Turkey Canyon is spelled wrong (Saulsberry) but other than that was in good condition. Plenty of parking at the trail head.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Turkey Pen Canyon Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
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Jul 25 2019
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Buena Vista and Flys Peak, AZ 
Buena Vista and Flys Peak, AZ
 
Hiking avatar Jul 25 2019
markthurman53Triplogs 865
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1st trip
My first trip into the Chiricahua Mountains (not counting Chiricahua National Monument) and I was impressed. I think I liked it more the the Pinaleno Mountains. The only down side was the 12 mile dirt road up and the 13 mile dirt road down to Portal. The up side is it means less traffic. This mountain has enough trails to keep me occupied for years to come, kind of like the Superstitions in that respect. On this trip I spent two days hiking the trails along the crest but later in the year when it cools off a bit the lower trails will become a little more doable.

On the first day I started along the crest Trail at the Barfoot Road Trail Head. The trails along the crest are not well maintained but They are in good condition and easy to follow, Well signed with very little overgrowth and a minimum of dead fall across the trails. I'm sure lower down on the mountain the trails are rockier but up here they weren't. Forest regrowth after the fires years ago (not sure what year) is coming along nicely even though the scars of the fire can still be seen. It looks like the recovery cycle is doing better here than in the Pinaleno Mountains, but that could be a subjective statement.

My first side trip was up to Buena Vista Peak to the Barfoot Look out. There is no look out there just the foundation. In keeping with the peak name there are great views. Barfoot Park below and Barfoot Peak to the north along with Cochise Head and Dos Cabezas. Mount Graham would be visible if it weren't monsoon season. From the peak I headed down to Barfoot Park and Barfoot Spring, very pleasant area. The name Barfoot is a bit strange, I wonder if it is some southern mountain mans pronunciation of bear, like Bar Wallow, I'm going bar hunting or does a bar poop in the woods. I headed back up to the crest trail and headed toward Rustler Park. Never understood why they call these high mountain meadows parks, I always expect to see slides and swings and always leave disappointed.

I took the Bootleggers trail near Rustlers Park down .7 miles to the Rock Creek Trail and took that back up to the Crest Trail at Bootlegger Saddle. These trails are a bit faint and in need of maintenance but with a good eye they are easy enough to follow and every so often a rock cairn will reassure. Both these trails will need further investigating but will have to wait for cooler weather as they head down the west slopes of the Chiricahua Mountain.

Back on the Crest Trail I headed to Flys Peak. The Crest Trail from Bootlegger Saddle passes along the west side of Riggs Peak and then to Flys Saddle. At Flys Saddle four trails intersect, Long Park Trail, Centella Trail, Flys Peak Trail and the Crest Trail. Flys Saddle is covered in young aspen trees about 10 to 20 feet tall, part of the recovery process. The Flys Peak Trail is .8 miles to the summit. Not terribly great views from there because of the trees but the view along the crest to the South is Pretty Good. Raspberries and flowers were numerous. I was able to eat all the berries I wanted this time, I had no doctors procedure that required that I not eat things with seeds in them. On the return trip I headed back down the Crest Trail to Rustlers Park and took the road back to the start point along Barfoot Road.

The weather cooperated nicely on this hike, cloud build up but no rain. Temperatures in the mid 70's. Looks like a couple areas got rain the night before but didn't look like too much. There was water at Barfoot Park at the spring but along the Crest Trail I didn't see any. Probably at some of the named springs along the trail but I didn't check them out. I will take the 13 mile dirt road down the East side of the Mountain to Portal and stay at the Portal Cafe and lodge. I was really impressed with Cave Creek on the way to Portal, magnificent rock formations. This will be an interesting area to hike when the weather cools off. The Portal cafe had excellent food and eating on the patio in the evening added to the enjoyment. Tomorrow I head back up to the crest and hit Chiricahua Peak.
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Jul 05 2015
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Bootlegger Trail #257Tucson, AZ
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Date hike just me and Brad. Parked at Granite Mtn trailhead - not another car there. Took Bootlegger :next: Scenic View :next: Granite Mountain Loop trail :next: Saddlehorn :next: Bootlegger :next: parking lot.

Incredibly gorgeous light on the granite rocks. Hot but mostly in the shade since we started late. Massive downed cactus on GML was up just a few weeks ago. Cycle of life. Then dinner outside at Isabella's Kitchen in Grayhawk. Sunday eating out is amazing - no wait - no crowds.
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Crest Trail #270, AZ 
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I left the house at about 4:30 pm on Weds, June 4 headed to the Chiricahua Mountains - another one of my favorite places. I arrived outside of Rustler Park after 7 pm. Rustler Park is closed so I found a flat spot near there and pitched my REI Camp Dome 2. It's a nice tent - not really a backpack tent, but works well for car camping.
It was a clear night and the stars were impressive. The only bad thing was the wind blew pretty hard all night. I was in an area with quite a few burned trees and every time I got to sleep, something would hit the tent and wake me up. I had Desert Solitaire loaded on my Kindle and would read a chapter or so each time I woke up - turned out to be a pretty good night.
Was up fairly early and loaded tent and stuff into the jeep. Headed out on the Crest Trail - I decided to take Bootlegger Tr since I have not been that way. There were some very nice views to the North, West and East. Fairly open hillsides on the first mile or so of Bootlegger Tr. I came to an intersection with Rock Spring Tr #259 and it said the Crest Tr was 3/4 mile. I had to get back to town early so I decided to head towards the Crest Tr. It was a brutal 3/4 mile - felt like 5. If there was a trail I never really found it. Very steep and loose rocks. Made it to the saddle and Crest Tr. I decided to have a snack and cook some coffee. It was a beautiful spot. I was relaxing having some hot coffee thinking what a lucky person I am to be able to do this. So far this morning I had seen a couple deer and a Great Horned Owl. I heard something behind me and turned around to a very large bear standing about 30 yards away. When I stood up, I think I confused the bear. I said, "bear, you need to go on about your business." He looked at me and chomped / snorted a couple times and walked off. In the excitement I got my phone out and started taking pictures...unfortunately I had moved it to video, so I took about 10 one or 2 second videos. Once I figured it out I took a very poor video of the bear walking off - I loaded it on youtube. You can see it here http://youtu.be/5PgYBG8qMdQ
I know it's a terrible video, but a very nice Chiricahua Black Bear. I finished breakfast and hiked back to the jeep and headed home for some family stuff. It was a very nice, short trip overall. Even if you are not going to hike, it's worth the drive to head up there to Rustler or Barfoot Lookout area. Rough, rugged, beautiful country.
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Jun 05 2010
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Crest Trail #270B - Jct Sdl to Monte Vista PkTucson, AZ
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Trail work - June 5-19, 2010

Brief Summary
Cleared for foot and horse
Long Park to Flys Saddle (42D)
Lower portion of North Flys Peak Trail (337)
Crest Trail (270) from Rustler Park to Aspen Saddle
Bootlegger from Rustler Park to jct with Rock Canyon Trail (275)
Greenhouse from Crest to Cima cabin and barn (248)
Chiricahua Peak (270A)
Bear Wallow (333)
Centella - Tub Springs (334)
Anita Park (but not to spring) (359)
Booger Spring (347)
Cleared for foot
Junction Saddle to Chiricahua Saddle (270B); Chiricahua Saddle to Paint Rock (270B) to Monte Vista lookout

Work Phases
June 5 & 6, Clearing Crest trail outside the Wilderness from Rustler Park and Long Park TH (w/ chainsaw): John, Walter, Jim, Jean, Ron, and Tom - 2.2 miles - dark blue
June 7, Bootlegger tread and brushing (only two trees since John and Greg had removed most last fall); John, Jim, Jean, Ron, Tom, Charley, Mel, Joe and Donna - 0.8 miles - light green
June 8-10, Clearing Crest trail from Flys Saddle to Cima Cabin; Jim, Jean, John, and Ron - 1.9 miles - orange-red
June 13-18 (Sierra Club Trip, one day joined with Portal Hiking Club members); John, Jim, Jean, Joe, Gary, Rachel, Anne, Zoe, Zac, Joe M, Donna, Carol, Barbara, Lorraine, Greg; Cleared Crest from Cima Park to Aspen Saddle; Anita Park; Chiricahua Peak, Booger Springs (north) Bear Wallow, Centella, Tub Springs and half-way up Flys Peak on north side - 5.1 miles - magenta

Of Note
o Biggest tree was a 30 inch (or 29 inch) ponderosa on the Bear Wallow Trail that Zac, Rachel and Zoe polished off with two cuts in less than 40 minutes (20 minutes to get off the trail)
o Toughest stretch was south on the Crest from Junction Saddle with nine of us working to open up about 500 feet of trail
o Two trips out Centella Point to view the Horseshoe fire as it worked its way along the west flank of Portal Peak
o Eb's tireless sawing
o Joe and Gary tossing logs off the trail
o Stars and more stars with the dark of the moon
o Anne's rumpedehumps
o Gary's fires
o Joe's blisters (12 miles in new boots!!)
o Rachel and Zoe's 12 pounds of books
o Butts on the ground with lots of sap to make certain the stains are permanent

Problem Areas
o Crest trail from Rustler Park to Bootlegger Saddle has tread problems below the cliffs (above the Guard Station and about 1/4 mile south of the Bootlegger Trial junction). An hour of pick-mattock should solve it in the short term but might be a candidate for some rock to stabilize the slumping. Crew of four, two hours
o Bootlegger trail from the Saddle down to the junction with Rock Canyon and Rattlesnake trails has downfall but the tread is in good shape. It is outside the Wilderness Area. Crew of four, eight hours
o Flys Peak trail - north and south - has significant deadfall, especially on the south side. Crew of four, 12 hours.
o Monte Vista trail has significant downfall, mostly green: 46 trees between Junction Saddle and Chiricahua Saddle, four will need a crosscut; 18 trees between Chiricahua Saddle and Raspberry Ridge Junction that can be handled with a big Corona or D-handle; 26 trees between the junction and the Lookout, most of these are within 1/4 mile of the junction on the north side of Raspberry Peak. The tread needs work within 3/8 mile of Junction Saddle. Crew of four, two days.
o Crest trail from Aspen to Juniper Saddle probably has significant deadfall based on what we saw elsewhere on the Crest trail. Crew of four, eight hours.
o The trail from Barfoot Lookout down to Barfoot Park has several trees across it. Crew of four, two hours.
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Chiricahua Peak from Rustler Park THTucson, AZ
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mazatzalTriplogs 1,347
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This was before the 2 (or 3?) fires that have hit Chiricahuas since then. There was one a few years before this trip. Great trail and views.
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