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Banning Creek Trail #81 - Prescott NF - 5 members in 9 triplogs have rated this an average 3.2 ( 1 to 5 best )
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May 22 2024
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Bean Peaks Gravity Flow TrailsPrescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
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Paul and I planned to 🚴🏻‍♂️ the beginner trails Green Bean, Mr. Bean, Rice and Beans, and Beany Baby, at Bean Peaks Gravity Flow Trails -- a new system at White Spar, just south of Prescott.

Being new, the trails were in fantastic shape. At 5,800 el. some of the climbs were a bit more than this flatlander could handle. (140 ft./mi. is my planning limit.) All the trail intersections have map boards. Trails radiating from an intersection are marked with a carbonite post indicating either “Do not enter” in red, or the trail’s name, number, and what mode of transport is allowed on it. (MTB or pedestrian — no horses.)

We briefly considered taking a crack at intermediate Limey Bean, but decided better of it. (Limey Bean? Why not Lima Bean? Probably because everybody hates lima beans!) 😆

Paul dropped down Beany Baby first, but I soon passed him because unicycles are constant peddling — no “neutral” — and, with only one tire, have a smaller contact patch. With no ups, Beany Baby drops 175 ft. in only 0.53 miles. I rode a bypass around the one rocky jump. I for sure used my brakes, but I never dabbed. Fast & fun! 👍

Rather than do another loop, we headed out on FR 67 -- which ended up being the opposite of the flat I expected. Walking ensued. At the top, we turned left an a rando trail then, 0.4 miles later, left again onto Trail #396.

Trail #396 is narrow, very twisty, and slighty off-camber. It climbs for a half mile, but then descends 360 ft. in 1.5 miles to Bannon Creek. I just want to get some exercise and enjoy the scenery, not crash. Which I did, twice, harmlessly. (Trailside duff is like oil on a race track.) I walked most of Trail #396. Pushing a 30 lb. bike is still exercise!

At the the climb from Bannon Creek, we turned left onto Trail #61. It was all downhill from there. Literally.

Trail #61 descends quick & straight. I let Prescottstyle get well ahead of me, so I would have plenty of runoff, then let it rip. I have no idea how fast I was going, but all of a sudden there were double 6″ inch ruts across the trail. The first one got me squirelly — and I thought I might be able to recover — but the second rut put me down. Hard. Really hard.

I wasn’t knocked out, but I lay there for 15-20 seconds getting my wits about me. I got up and assessed the damage: boogered right knee & shin, gash on right elbow, road rash on right shoulder blade, ribs sore on both sides, jammed shoulder in pain, bruise on right temple (good thing for helmets!), various gravel divots. I must have landed shoulder first, then head. 🤕

Paul was long gone. I limped the 0.8 miles back to the White Spar.

I thought I might have to go to the hospital, but I've been getting better every day, with less pain & more range of motion in the shoulder. Close one!
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Was signed up for the 100. But due to an injury that prevented me from doing much on Labor Day weekend, I figured I'm probably in no condition to attempt that, so the primary goal was 50.

Started out early in Downtown Prescott, and basically followed 89 2.5 miles to the trail. Pleasant temps in the morning, nothing remarkable as I made my way up to Groom Creek trail 10 miles in. By then it was light out, and it was nice and cool for the climb up Spruce and down Smith Ravine.

On Homestead, it started warming up, and I realized I had basically no energy. I'll chalk that up to a quick turnaround from flying back across the country on Thursday evening... Didn't want to be struggling just 20 miles in, but you can't have it all. At least the breeze tempered the sun a little.

Ranch trail was where the misery really started. I expected the climb, having been on that trail a couple times, but I absolutely hated Badger Mountain Trail. Long, windy, exposed, with the type of switchbacks that were probably designed to ensure mountain bikers don't have to put in any effort at all. 11 miles to do what's probably a 3-4 mile drive... Hopefully I never have to see Badger Mountain Trail ever again.

Things improved a little on Sundog Trail, which I actually liked better than BM. Then Peavine, which is just...flat. By the time I got to the dells, it was 5pm, and I figured the sun would be down before I got to 50. The north side of Watson Lake was actually a lot of fun, and I liked trying to move through there as fast as possible. Probably the only part of the day that was legitimately enjoyable.

One of my friends was waiting for me at the Watson Boat Ramp with a beer, which was a nice surprise.

By the time I got to Willow, it was getting dark, and I had to use a light most of the way through there. There were also thunderstorms moving in, which was fun (they didn't get to Willow, but I heard it got a little crazy closer to Granite Mountain). I really don't recommend going through the dells in the dark, it definitely upped the difficulty a level or two.

After that section, I decided to make it official and not go for what would've probably been a last place finish. I'm starting to come around to one of my friends' views that 50 miles is a superior distance to 100.
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Jun 26 2023
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Banning Creek Trail #81 - Prescott NFPrescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
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Last day in Prescott, so I was able to do one more, early morning hike. Starting from the White Spar TH I got on the trail around 5:30am. Goal was to do the Banning Creek trail. I had done a portion of it, a couple of years ago, but never done the whole trail.

Went in on Goldwater (.2 miles), then Twist and Shout (.6 miles) and then Apple Blossom (.5 miles) to get to the Banning Creek juncture. While doing Apple Blossom I followed several of the user trails north. As expected, they all lead to homes that were just out of sight of the trail. The Apple Blossom trail catches Banning near to, but at not at the beginning of the trail. Technically, Banning starts about 100 yards to the north where a neighborhood road dead ends. There is a posted sign saying that parking is for residences only and that violators will be towed. At this “TH” there is also a trail connector for Hidden Valley trail(#374). Turning around, I started in on Banning and was quickly challenged( about .25 miles in) with a split in the trail. With no signage. :? Both looked well used, but the western trail had a water hazard, so I opted for the eastern track. For a good portion of this segment, there was a an old metal pipeline that accompanied this trail. There were also quite a few user trails that took off from this trail. None of which were signed. At about .75 miles I came upon another split with trail numbered #396. I was now on the Goldwater trail. At this point, I SHOULD have done a 160 and followed that splinter trail back to the north. That would have got me to the official Banning Creek - Goldwater Trail juncture. Instead, I followed the Goldwater trail south and east for almost 1 mile before determining my mistake. At this point I turned around and did what I should have done, making my way to the described Banning - Goldwater juncture. (I’m fairly certain, if I had followed the western branch at the .25 mile mark (with the water hazard), I would have made it to this junction without having this detour). From this juncture I followed Banning Creek trail as it climbed a saddle. The trail was very wide, obviously a road in a previous life. Near the top of the saddle it “Y”ed into another road. No signage at this “Y”, but I assumed the trail took the southeastern segment. The trail/road descended eventually curving toward the west. It connected to School Gulch trail at the bottom of the hill, but once again with no trail signage. Not sure why Prescott doesn’t sign these intersections better. They are close enough to the TH that I’m sure they get frequent use. I then took School Gulch back to the TH. Nice hike, though not as smooth as I envisioned. Weather was great. Saw 11 deer; a grouping of 4 and then 7 more. :) Would like to get back here soon and see how all these user trails work together.

Addendum:
Came back on 7/8 did trail 371 (a campsite access trail)and then explored the user trails that I identified on 6/26. (Mileage data was logged with my 7/8 posting).

Starting from the Banning Creek TH. There is roadside parking at this TH, but there is a posted sign saying that is for residence only. Not sure how they would verify and enforce but…. Hiking in from the TH there is a juncture at .07 miles. From the west, the Apple Blossom comes in and ends at this juncture. At this point, to the east, there appears to be an old road that heads up a hill. At .09 miles there is a faint, but definite tracks that heads off to the east. At .25 miles the Banning Creek trail splits. The official Banning Creek trail is to the west, though the eastern track is a more fun, shadow of the western track and my preferred choice. At .34 miles the Feldmeier trail start from the western track and crosses the “eastern shadow version”. (Note: there is signage indicating this on the western trail, but not on the eastern trail. At .75 miles there is a solid, unsigned single track that heads off to the east (from the eastern track). At .83 miles the eastern track connects to the Goldwater trail. There is no signage at this juncture. You need to make a hard right and follow the trail to the west for 100 yards to reach the western track of the Banning Creek trail and the official signed juncture between Banning Creek/Goldwater. (There were a couple of other faint trails that were explored along this route, but they faded away quickly so we’re not mentioned).

My goal was to follow all three of the above mentioned user tracks to see where they went. The first track at .07 miles starts off as a dual heading up a hill to the east. The road quickly comes to small electrical box, but the trail continues as a single track, switchbacking sharply up a hill. The trail goes on for about .5 miles, gaining about 200 feet and ending at Old Senator’s Highway. The trail goes through a nice stretch of Ponderosa pines, but as the trail climbs it leaves the trees behind and becomes populated by a sharp leaf shrub. The trail is easy to follow though shrub encroachment becomes a challenge as it nears the road.

The second track was at .09 miles. It starts off as only a hint of a trail (I really wasn’t expecting it to be much), but once it got past the first grouping of trees, the trail became very solid. This trail was annoyingly steep and slanted at times as it worked its way up to another section of Old Senator’s Highway. The trail seemed to be longer than the other trail, but also came in at just over .5 miles long. The trail is easy to follow, but attacks elevation change very aggressively. Ponderosa pines dominate initially, but once you reach the higher elevation, it becomes very exposed. This allows for some nice views to the north and west. I imagine that many people who do these trails, hike them as loop. If doing this loop, I would suggest doing it clockwise. Due to shrub growth, the .09 track is much easier to identify on Old Senator’s Highway than the .07 track. Not sure how long either of these trails will exist. The shrub growth at the top means regular maintained will need to be performed to keep these as viable trails. Be interested to come back to see if these still exist.

When I discovered that the .34 mile track was actually an official trail (Feldmeier), I decided to forgo that for a later date.

The single track that takes off at the .75 miles mark turned out to be a treat. It was a solid single track that went on for 1.05 miles before ending at what I think was the Feldmeier trail. The trail was easy to follow for its entire length, staying within the Ponderosa Pines for the duration. The trail does a nice job of playing with the landscape, going into washes and along the side of hills. The trail did take a couple of hills straight up, but these were for short distances. The trail showed both hiker and biker use. (There were a couple of downed trees that bikers may have to get off for). Near the Feldmeier end of the trail, someone had built a viewing platform up in the trees. The platform itself didn’t look all that stable, but the rings leading up were solid. I need to confirm what trail this intersects with, but this would be an ideal loop option. I was surprised that none of the three user trails that I followed “spider-webbed”.

Not mentioned above, but if you continue on Banning Creek after the official Banning Creek/Goldwater juncture the trail trail/road climbs a hill where it will “y” into another road. The Banning Creek trail continues on to the south and east. But if you make a hard right and head northwest the road will quickly take you back to the Goldwater trail.

For most readers and trail users this addendum won’t mean much. But for me, it scratches an itch and helps bring the area into better focus.
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Goldwater Lakes Double Loop, AZ 
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It was 90° in Phoenix, and 77° in Prescott - easy decision. We arrived at the trailhead on Senator Highway at 1425 and headed out. There was only one other vehicle in the parking lot. The blue sky, perfect temperature, fresh pine smell, and chirping birds all contributed to a glorious afternoon.

The trail was very nice, well maintained, with a few rocky aspects. We took the side trail along the south shore of Upper Goldwater Lake. There were approximately 30 kayakers, 50 ducks, and numerous other birds on the lake. We observed Lower Goldwater Lake from above through the trees. We continued along Banning Creek Trail, but the creek was mostly dry, with a few pleasant pools along the way.

We looped back on Hidden Valley trail to Goldwater Lakes trail (jumping out of the way of a couple mountain bikers), then crossed over to the north side of the lakes, making a figure 8. There were a number of people fishing along the shore, but the only catch we observed was made by a bird, which then flew off with its prize.

My injured Achilles tendon started acting up during the last couple miles, but overall this was an excellent day. On the trail we encountered 2 mountain bikers and 2 dog walkers, but no other people the entire afternoon. We stopped at the Palace Saloon for dinner, which was exactly what we needed, then got some ice cream for the drive home.

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Sep 18 2022
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Apple Blossom Trail #373Prescott, AZ
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The starting point for this trail is easily missed. We actually started to hike some trail not on the maps but quickly realized it was not the correct 1. Crossed through many trails to make a day of it.
 
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Goldwater Lakes Trail #396Prescott, AZ
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Made a loop of Goldwater, Banning Creek #81, and Feldmeier #303. All were well maintained. HAZ is missing the latter two trails. Very busy trail system, lots of mountain bikers, but everyone was courteous.
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Mar 09 2021
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Goldwater Lakes Trail #396Prescott, AZ
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I am up in Prescott for the week and the White Spar TH is the closest to where I am staying. Door to door was 8 minutes even with Prescott's traffic. The trailhead is right inside the boundary of the Prescott NF and seemingly at the edge of the suburbs.

This trail network reminds me of Hawes with trees. Nothing is too steep, but everything rolls up and down which I found enjoyable.

I started out on Schoolhouse and then #81 which are gated FS roads. They are nice, but the real single track starts on Goldwater Lake Trail.

Prescott NF does an exceptional job of forest management for the sustainability and recreational enjoyment of the public. I noted not too long ago on the Groom Creek Loop that the gathered forest understory and selective thinning gives the forest a chance in the case of a fire. Previously, I would argue for the 'wilderness' to be left alone, but I have come around to the fact that if we want any standing trees in Arizona our forests managers should take a more proactive stance towards managing for the sake of recreation. This trail system is just another example of the Prescott NF giving the forest the best chance possible.

There aren't great views except for that of Upper Goldwater Lake which includes, benches, tables, a playground and other developed areas. Nonetheless, the majority of the paths were extremely peaceful and gave the impression of being a lot further from town than what these trails actually are.

I saw 5 hikers and 4 mountain bikers. The temps were in the 50's, but sunny with perfectly clear skies except for the end of the day. The parking lot was half full both upon departure and return to my truck.
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Oct 06 2018
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Banning Creek Trail #81 - Prescott NFPrescott, AZ
Prescott, AZ
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Second hike of the day.following the Discovery Trail near Peavine. Drove over with my wife to the White Spar TH. Velva wasn't going with me, but she was giving me two hours to "play". The plan was to an in and out on the School House Gulch Trail#67. Started off ok, as that is one of the trails that start directly from that TH. The trail is more of a road so it is easy to follow. Unfortunately the road/trail is not well marked and the trail has a tendency to split. The first split occurred about .75 miles. The left turn had a trail sign that said trail, the right side had no sign at all. Following the left turn I eventually saw another trail sign that said trail#81 :? . I followed this trail (once again, more a road than a trail. Though, early on this trail did have large boulders lined across it, so it was no longer accessible by 4 wheeled vehicles) up and over a large hill. Nothing crazy, but it was a straight forward climb. No switchbacks to vary the ascent. Took #81 to where it connected to the #396. I thought that was where #81 ended (it had been about .6 miles to that point) so I turned around. It was only after I had gotten back to my car that I realized that #81 had continued on :? Since I hate leaving trails unfinished, a return visit is in order. As I hiked back along the #81 I did some side trails. Most were nothing. One was a road/trail that connected to the #396 near #396's high point. I had seen this "road" a month ago when I had done #396. Now I know how that connection works. :) Happiness. When I got back to the first split, I took the right path, thinking that it must be #67. I followed this road for about .5 miles before it split again. And still no trail trail signage at this next split!! ](*,) I will have to download this route, since Prescott doesn't seem to feel it is necessary to sign this particular trail. This trail shoild have been easy to follow, if you can figure out which road to follow.

Still it was very nice up there. Storm clouds had moved in, so it was foreboding, breezy and even a little chilly. Very nice. No rain while I was out. Saw about 8 hikers while I was out. 2 deer.

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Started at White Spar trailhead and followed Trail 396 to the first spur trail to Upper Goldwater Lake, cruised around the lake to the dam by people fishing, picnicking and otherwise recreating. Crossed to FR-61 and went down along the Lower Goldwater Lake.
When approached from the upper (east) side, there is a fence on the left side of FR-61 with lots of "No trespassing" signs: some of which definitely apply to the area beyond the fence (Lower Lake itself), some other signs not so much, and upon approach to the buildings by Lower Lake, there's a sign most probably applied to the road. Also there's a decayed "Beware of dogs" sign and the dog was actually there running to me like I'm some kind of intruder. Well, I still have all my extremities intact :whistle:
When approached from the lower (west) side, there are no signs on FR-61 whatsoever, only a gate against motor vehicles with a wide foot path on the side. The dog may be not so friendly another time so I'd suggest to avoid FR-61 section along Lower Lake. City of Prescott is considering opening Lower Lake to the public and extending the recreation area there, but it may take years from now.
From FR-61 /Trail 396 / Trail 81 junction I followed 81 to 373 (where a subdivision sits on the forest hills), then to 372 and back to the trailhead thru campground.
Trail 81 is comprised by former FR-9403S and northern part of FR-61 (it was called 61 here on HAZ but it's 81 per City of Prescott trails map and per actual trail signs - and now it's fixed, thanks Joe).
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