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Spencer Spring Trail #275Globe, AZ
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Back out to Miles TH, this time with my vehicle...so it can't be said that I'm unwilling to drive there myself...though it's safe to say my ride could do with some different shoes - I was entirely annoyed at the performance (or lack thereof) of the stock tires. FS287 seems to have been recently graded and is smooth to the single lane bridge. Past that point, the road varies in condition, with heavy washboarding near the end.

Was happy to join Jason for a walk up West Pinto and Spencer Spring Trails - my knee has been acting up, and probably wasn't thrilled with my choices this past week in my attempt to squeeze in time outdoors relatively nearby before the heat hit. We had a leisurely start, and the day was already warm-ish when we left the car and headed across the meadow.

We walked what was available of the old trail, but once we entered the burn region, much of the time was spent walking directly in the watercourse where we encountered a number of pinacate beetles wandering about. The rocks are generally small enough and packed tightly enough to make for relatively easy walking, though still significantly slower going than a maintained trail - we'd occasionally pick up sections of trail on either bench, but often found ourselves headed back to the creekbed rather than dealing with brush or fallen snags.

Before long, we found ourselves at Oak Flat, which remained remarkably unburned. After a brief stop, we continued onward up the Spencer Spring Creek until we hit Cement Spring, following the same routine as we did for West Pinto: following sections of trail if they were passable, otherwise staying in the creekbed. There is water with slow flow that comes and goes in both Pinto and Spencer Spring Creeks - Didn't get a good look at the actual springs feeding the creek, so can't really comment on what their flow status is.

In addition to the usual plant players (notably manzanita, scrub live oak, holly, and catclaw), I somehow managed to get covered in some sort of prickly stickers and spent the first few minutes of our break at cement spring clearing my clothing of their presence. After relaxing in the shade for a bit, we made our way back - stopping at Oak Flat to enjoy the breeze and listen to a pair of crows chatter (along with a bunch of other birds) and to have a look at what remains of the old corral.

On our way back out, we stopped once again to see if we could figure out where the cave that we'd been hunting for was located and we think we have its location...but we didn't have any caving gear with us, so we'll need to return another time to check it out more closely.

Another wonderful day out in good company without crossing any other hikers.
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a handful of flowers spotted, some not photographed because they weren't in great shape.

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water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Pinto Creek @ 3,604 ft Pools to trickle Pools to trickle

dry Rock Creek Dry Dry

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Been feeling under the weather for the past week but still wanted to get out in the Supes before the big broil of 2025. Put together something on the easy side and S joined me even with threatening her with thoughts of catclaw forests. :lol: Only car at Miles when we started just after 8 where it was already in the 50's. Easy walk through the Miles Savanna and the initial section of West Pinto beyond Bull Basin before entering the burn. There is some 'hunting' for the 'trail' at a couple of points and being careful not to follow all of the old carins that sometimes led to a bushwhack from hell. Someone else put up some orange ribbon at a couple of spots which was helpful. A quick break at Oak Flat and continued down Spencer Spring Trail. The initial .3 of a mile of Spencer is great (spared from the Woodbury) then it goes to feces on a stick. The last half mile to Cement Spring felt like 5 miles, grinding through the creek through downed trees, and when we did hunt for the trail, it was thickets of catclaw. Once we got to Cement Spring (which is completely trashed) we cleaned off our shoes, socks, and gaiters with all of the mess we had just went through and had lunch. At that point, I did not have the energy to fight the mess any further down so we decided to head back. Uneventful hike back but it warmed up pretty quickly showing 79 degrees when we finished. On the drive back out, we stopped at a spot along 287 for our second attempt to locate a cave we previously looked at. With a bit more intel we were able to locate the entrance but with no gear we decided to explore inside next time. Another great day in the Supes,we had the entire area to ourselves. Thanks S for joining me, I think you got the brunt of the blood donation this time. :lol:

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water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Cement Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Nice flow in the creek near the spring.

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Spencer Spring Rock Creek Loop, AZ 
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Spencer Spring Trail #275Globe, AZ
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Decided to spend 3 days getting my butt kicked by the Superstition Wilderness. And a solid kicking was indeed delivered!

Day 1: Drove to Rogers Trough TH (road is in excellent condition), observed a small army of vehicles at the trailhead, and headed southeast to finish off AZT segment 18 and make my way over to Spencer Spring Trailhead. I made pretty good time. Got passed (and passed) several motorized groups. A few offered water, and one declined assistance after a spill off their motorcycle.

Spencer Springs trail is one of a few left in the Supes I've never done, and my hope was that the fire had reduced the overgrowth. Unfortunately there are several problems with the trail, both due to the fire and the lack of maintenance. The trail suffers from erosion, overgrowth, and not-existingness. While the first half mile was somewhat reasonable for a trail that sees maybe 5 hikers a year, once you get past Spencer Springs, everything goes to hell. The trail goes along the side and top of a ridge for about 2 miles. The ridge appears to have been burned to moonscape by the fire, and what's regrown is mainly grass, lots of grass. Furthermore, the erosion has made it so that the trail is not really visually any different from the surrounding land. Everything, including the trail, is covered in grass (and some other brush.) The good news is that it is fairly easy to plow through. The bad news is that the only way you can tell if you are on the trail is to feel with your feet where it is slightly harder pack ground, but that doesn't always work. I got off trail many, many times, thankfully the GPS track is pretty good to help find it again.

After the ridgeline the trail dumps you into the canyon bottom, but does a ridiculous steep climb up the other side before disappearing into fireburn and some overgrowth. Do yourself a favor and simply stay in the canyon bottom. In fact, staying in the creekbed is the key, as the rest of the "trail" attempts to wind its way along the creekbed on small benches. Nearly every bench is horrifically overgrown with catclaw. I abandoned the trail after a few follies in plowing through the stuff. Stay in the creekbed!

Behind schedule, I camped along Spencer Spring creek (there is a nice flow through the canyon) after following the creekbed to a 40 ft waterfall, and realizing it was getting pretty late to find the trail that goes around it. Unfortunately a skunk decided to spray very near my tent sometime that night...my guess is that I may be the first human it had encountered and it disliked my presence...or maybe I snored and scared it...who knows?

Day 2: Finished the SS trail the next morning. Luckily, the final half mile of trail has escaped the fire and is a pleasant stroll through a patch of surviving forest. In fact, everything west, south, and east of Oak Flat, for about 0.5 miles in each direction, appears to have escaped the blaze. However, the creekbed is now about 40 feet wide, full of sand and small gravel, and there seems no surface water in this area for roughly a third of a mile in any direction. This may hamper those who desire to camp at Oak Flat.

I had planned to explore the Cuff Button trail, but the horrific trail conditions, lack of surface water in the creek nearby, and slow progress thus far made me change plans to just cancel this part of my trip. I headed up West Pinto trail. I was initially thrilled because for about the first 0.75 miles the West Pinto trail was in wonderful shape. But then my hopes were dashed as within the next 0.25 miles it turned into a brutal bushwhack through shrub oak, until I reached the first crossing of the creek. I took a break here. In retrospect it would have been easier to just abandon the trail at Oak Flat and hike upstream in the creekbed to get to this point. Legends of a trail crew clearing the entire WP trail have clearly been exaggerated, though they did do a great job as far as they got.

As I took a break, I filtered some water and contemplated hiking the creekbed upstream vs continuing on taking the trail along the north side of the creek. I regrettably decided on the trail because I wasn't sure if the entire creekbed would be navigable headed upstream. (It is, except for a minor 15 ft waterfall that is easily skirted.) Future travelers should definitely take the creekbed option, hiking in the creekbed to the Silver Spur Cabin drainage.

The next 2 miles of West Pinto trail was the most horrible catclaw gauntlet I can recall on an actual named trail in the Superstitions. In some places along the trail it was so bad I had to push into it backwards to get it to give enough that I could start snapping off some of the canes with my feet. The after-trip assessment shows that I received significantly more shredding to my head, torso, thighs and back of my arms than I can recall on any previous hike. This accompanies the typical damage of the forearms, shins, and ankles. In addition to the catclaw downside, the trail is significantly eroded in this section and pitches towards the creek side, trying to get the hiker to lose their balance and tumble down the steep cliff to their death. I recommend others skip this section of trail.

Where the trail returns down to the creek, I hiked along the creekbed a short ways until I set up camp on a nice sandy berm on a rather wide stretch of canyon bottom (newly created from the erosion debris.) Luckily no skunks bothered me this second night.

Day 3: Continued hiking up the creekbed and explored the Silver Spur Cabin site. I found it easily. It seems someone has organized the remains into nice little piles. One pile of metal poles, one pile of tin roofing, one pile of the rusty stove bits, and a final pile of miscellaneous rusty junk. Not very interesting, but I crossed it off my list.

From this point the trail leaves the creek, and I followed it. Initially there was a bunch of catclaw to fight but very quickly the trail goes through serious eroded hills where dodging the catclaw proved slightly easier. The trail is pretty much nonexistent here, but as you continue climbing (steeply) the trail does eventually become recognizable. What I remember as the ridgeline full of manzanita has become the ridgeline full of shrub oak. The fire killed off all the manzanita save about 3 plants. In fact, where the trail is built at the very pinnacle of the ridgeline, it was perhaps marginally improved as the fire burned away nearly all the overgrowth.

After the serious steep climb, the disheartening plummet down to Iron Mountain Spring sank my spirits as the trail routing loses a large amount of elevation gain that you struggled with on the ridgeline. A small patch of forest survives here near Iron Mountain Spring, but is quite tangled with overgrowth. The campsite is no more and the concrete tank had been taken over and hidden into the overgrowth. The trail through this section is a disaster as the mountainside above is eroding heavily, washing out significant sections of the trail. Soon, I reach the final switchbacks that are also eroding, but generally burned clear of vegetation, until I crest Iron Mountain Saddle. From here, the last bit is easy, the trail is in reasonable shape and this segment of the West Pinto trail to the west of the saddle seems to have survived untouched by the fire. Only the last 300 yards of trail to connect to the Rogers Canyon trail are choked with catclaw, but most of the mile plus descent was fairly pleasant.
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dry Cement Spring Dry Dry
I did not see any water enter the creek from this direction. The actual spring seemed to be in the middle of a burned, catclaw filled thicket.

dry Crockett Spring Dry Dry
Where the spring is on the map was dry, and this side creekbed was entirely dry. If there was water here it would be entirely underground.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Iron Mountain Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
A little more than a gallon per minute flow was spilling down the drainage...did not trace it to the true spring source.

dry Oak Flat Spring Dry Dry
I did not see any surface water looking in this direction. I only saw a field of dry grass.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Rogers Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Several gallons per minute flowing down the creekbed. The spring is offtrail and I didn't investigate.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Spencer Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
Seemed to be pumping out at least 2 gallons per minute. The nearby trough is dry as the pipes are likely clogged.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Spencer Spring Creek Light flow Light flow
Light flow of several gallons per minute along the creek, it disappears underground on a few occasions.

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There is a nice surface flow of several gallons per minute that flows nearly the entire canyon. The only time it seems to go underground is within about 0.3 miles upstream of oak flat.
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Spencer Spring Trail #275Globe, AZ
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Headed up 650 yesterday to finish up the remaining piece of Spencer Spring Trail that I had not done yet. I have been to Cement Spring a couple of times but for one reason or another I have never hiked past the spring. Parked at the TH off 650 and dropped down into the canyon. Spent a few minutes checking out the spring then started the hike up. I attempted this part in April of last year but parts of it were so eroded and damaged by the fire I did not feel like messing with it then. Well, nothing has changed as some parts of it are like walking on ice. I'm not sure how this portion was pre-fire, but it is not a fun time at all right now. Finally got down into the creek and to my surprise found some really nice pools with some light flow.

The next mile and a half is much better as you stay in the creek bed most of the time with the exception of a couple of minor climbs. The trail is hit or miss with it being okay in some spots to no longer existing in others. There are a couple of small areas that survived the fire but most are destroyed. Made it to Cement Spring which was my stopping point, had some lunch and started back. I have been to Cement Spring a couple of times and this is the first time I have actually seen water flowing from the spring. This is the first time I have been there with a dry creek so maybe I missed it the other times. As I got back to the to the area where the fun climb back out begins, I realized I did not feel like climbing 800 feet up an ice rink ridge, so I took a chance and decided to stay in the canyon for the walk back out.

Slow going through the canyon as it tightened up and house size boulders had to be navigated. Came across 4 dry waterfalls. The first one was probably the worst. Although not huge, there was no bypass, so I had to climb straight up it with not very many spots for foot/hand holds and probably not the smartest thing to do hiking solo but there was no way I was going to turn around. Pulled myself slowly up and belly crawled the last piece to finish it up. :lol: The second one had a frozen pool at the bottom and the only way to climb it was to walk through it. Of course the ice crumbled under my weight and I ended up wading in 2 feet of freezing pumpkin water. My feet were frozen the rest of the way. The third and fourth waterfalls were the biggest but had bypasses that were not to bad. TONS of bear scat in this area as well as a couple of small caves, so I quickly made my way past those spots :scared: . Made it back to the spring area then had a 300 foot climb up to the truck. With making it to Cement Spring, that completed the Spencer Spring Trail for me. Perfect weather all day, partly cloudy, high 40's with a light breeze.
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Up at the crack of dawn this morning to head back out to the Superstitions. Drove out to the Miles TH to hike West Pinto to the Spencer Spring Trail. My goal today was to hike the remaining 2 miles I didn't get to last time. There was a small group camping at the TH, turns out they were doing some trail maintenance on West Pinto. Surprisingly came across some nice flowing pools about 2 miles up West Pinto. Last time here there was nothing alive because of the Woodbury fire. Man things sure have changed since then. Ton's of growth and color along the creek, some riparian areas are coming back nicely. West Pinto is much easier to follow now as there are a good amount of cairn's and foot track to follow. Spencer is a different story. First 1/4 mile is great, after that it's a mess, spent a lot of time hunting for a trail or a marker. And the catclaw is out of control on Spencer, my legs and arms again took a beating, it needs some serious maintenance! I wore a new pair of shoes today which caused a couple of blisters. I was trying to push through but about a half mile past Cement Spring I decided to stop and head back as they really started acting up. So I will have to return to finish the last mile and a half. Saw a group of three cowboys on horseback that had a pack of 7-8 dogs with them going up Spencer and that was it for the day. End of the day got in just under 11 miles. Always an enjoyable day in the Superstitions.
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After hiking the bottom portion of Spencer Spring Trail last weekend I was looking to start at the top to complete the trail. Decided to take the back way in and headed up FS 650. Made it to the small parking area and headed down to Spencer Creek. Started the long climb up the ridge next to the creek. Extremely slow going as the "trail" has been eroded away by the fire and flooding and it was extremely slippery from all of the loose rock. I was basically looking for the path of least resistance that wasn't to steep where I would fall. After about a mile and a half of this and nearly falling multiple times I'd had enough. Decided to turn around and head back to the truck. The upper part of the trail is basically a death trap and I do not recommend anyone hiking this until it can be fixed. FS 650 and 172 were like a highway, I have never seen so many vehicles on it, made the drive that much hairier. Even saw a motorcycle coming up just below Rogers Trough, it was not a dirt bike but a cruiser. It was a nice 66 degrees with a good breeze up top today which made a nice break from the 80's at the house. Besides the vehicle traffic, saw no one on the trail as expected. Just another day of social distancing.

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Was looking for a nice isolated area to hike in. Decided to head out to Miles TH and hike out on the Spencer Spring Trail which I have not done as of yet. Pulled up to the TH with two cars already there and a small village of a campsite at the ranch area. Started out on West Pinto, crossed Rock Creek and into the burn area. As with all the other hikes near water the area has been destroyed by the flooding. Again there was no way I was going to stay dry so decided to just walk through Pinto Creek. Lost the trail a couple of times (as it was gone) but finally made my way to Oak Flat. This area is untouched by the burn. Started down the Spencer Spring Trail and the first quarter of a mile was great as the fire did not touch this area. Then the burn area came, was a little washed out in places and the trail was overgrown here and there with poppy's, grass and my favorite catclaw bush. Made it over to Cement Spring, had a quick lunch and made my way back to the TH. I definitely want to head back out and complete Spencer Spring Trail as it was not as bad as I was expecting. Even though there were 2 cars at the TH I did not see anyone all day. Still a ton of water out there.
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so get this, from Miles you walk a good bit until the fire damage. oak flat was spared. after that, the "easy to follow, well maintained" spencer spring trail becomes a faint, washed out mess. no worries, trust Wally! did not have much trouble navigating the path, although i cant for my kingdom figure out why there is a "teaser" hill just before the big climb. nothing in the creek requires a 200' gain, then drop, before you exit. huh. anyway, spencer is thrashed. top of the hill and on to the road to drop down into Rock. now, i've been known to get excited for off trail hikes in the E. supes, and this delivered. this upper section of Rock is about as useless as a "trail" as a third big toe. so carry on, try not to get killed via pushwhacking. once in the creek proper, it's easiest just to stay the course. get your Jordans on, cause you'll need Air to get over the approximatley 1,642 felled trees. i camped after the guesstimation of 9.25 miles from Kennedy ranch. above freezing, but not by much. so i anticipate a good 4.5 miles back to the car as "off trail" the whole way. after all, it was pretty slow going. then voila! a pink ribbon, a couple cairns here and there, and for the continuing 4 miles the trail was a breeze.. crossing the creek about a dozen times, but never hard to find. thank you to whomever has been out there with a saw! maybe they can carry on the length of the trail along the upper section where it needs maintenance the most.
spencer is a hell hole. it will take a dozen-strong crew for a month to make that one fun again. Rock, however, is a gem and just what i needed in the E supes. that's some dang nice country, there. NO MORE FIRES, PLEASE!
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Rock Creek - Spencer Springs loop, AZ 
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I'd been out of commission for a couple of weeks, but decided to join in on this loop since it didn't look like the AEG would be too bad. Started on West Pinto, then up Bull Basin. We turned onto what used to be Rock Creek trail about 50-100' past the cowboy grave. The trail was discernible in places, there was brush to push through, but nothing too thorny. Walking in the creek bed tended to be the easiest most of the time though. There seemed to be a fair amount of water, considering it hasn't rained for a few weeks now. After leaving the creek bed, we took a snack break before heading up the steepest part of the ascent, through a cypress grove, before topping out on the road.

It was a quick two miles on the road to reach the top of Spencer Springs. The upper part of Spencer was rather steep and gravelly in places, but had been cleared of brush. Some nice views to the east while near the top of the trail. I managed to fall right at the bottom of the steep part, but luckily landed on a fair amount of padding. Took a lunch break in the creekbed under some trees, then continued to head downhill. The trail is clear the entire way, including through one short section of catclaw. There was a nice amount of water along Spencer as well.

Once we reached West Pinto, we had probably the best fall color of the day, and it was an easy walk back down to the trailhead. Other than some guys in a Polaris on the road at the top, and truck at the trailhead when we finished, we saw nobody else all day. Nice day, and good to see some new territory.
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Rock Creek Spencer Spring Loop, AZ 
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John was chasing some completion list.

Kyle sent actual tears in an attachment to the text I sent asking if he wanted to go.

Wally's triplog says there's no trail.

Denny promised a lot of bloodshed.

Joe's triplog says it's a great hike. So I decided to invite him at the last minute.

Rock Creek Trail is a fun little puzzle to try to stay on the old tread, but the creek itself is pretty easy to follow and a very scenic little drainage. Much better than I was planning on.

Spencer Spring Trail may be the nicest maintained trail in the Superstitions. I'm not sure what all the complaining was about! :sweat: :lol:

It was a great loop, though I'd probably do it the opposite direction next time. As always, I did some extra exploring to pad my stats while the others took breaks.

And I didn't fall! :y:
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Rock Creek Spencer Spring Loop, AZ 
Rock Creek Spencer Spring Loop, AZ
 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking14.10 Miles 2,280 AEG
Hiking14.10 Miles   7 Hrs   5 Mns   2.39 mph
2,280 ft AEG   1 Hour   11 Mns Break3 LBS Pack
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Rock Creek (cough)Trail #195
There is a hint of trail through brush and over fallen trees. We got in a few segments of trail along the creek. Typically opted for the easier creekbed. Duly noted in my 2014 triplog "The key is to go down". It's not terrible going up, just not enjoyable.

Creek to road was as memory served. There is a trail. Missing a turn or two is par for course. The cypress are holding proud.

Dropping my rating on this from 4 to 3 out of 5.

Spencer Spring Trail #275
Maintenance has transformed this likeable canyon trail into a brush free gem. Steep tread held my attention in the upper portions. Clear, light flow in the creek for stretches.

Synopsis
Up Spencer and down Rock Creek is my preference. Fab hike either way.

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Autumn Foliage Observation Moderate
both canyons had nice sycamore color
we lucked out on the short sweet spot along #212
which included impressive [ Poison Ivy ] in all shades of red and orange
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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
not much, it dips below freezing overnight in the area now
one nice patch of [ Four O'Clock ] at the top of Spencer
a large wilted patch of [ Wild Cucumber ] in RC & Spencer
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Rock Creek Spencer Spring Loop, AZ 
Rock Creek Spencer Spring Loop, AZ
 
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wallyfrackTriplogs 1,691
Hiking15.80 Miles 2,497 AEG
Hiking15.80 Miles   9 Hrs   2 Mns   1.75 mph
2,497 ft AEG
 
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If you use your imagination there are "trails" out there. :lol: This loop is packed with features and we were likes kids on a mission. On the way up Rock Creek "trail" we stopped at the unknown Cowboy grave then over to an old mine which was collapsed but still had lots of cool stuff around. Farther up Rock Creek "trail" we stopped at the waterfall and checked out an old corral. The next section was the easy part of the hike. We walked FR650 to Spencer Spring "trail". We took some time to check out the ruins and hunt for nice pot sherds. The upper section of Spencer Spring "trail" was faint but we stopped at Spencer Spring, then down to a neat slot canyon with a waterfall and finally another old corral. The final stretch going back on West Pinto trail was a luxury. After the hike we stopped for grub at Hermanos and saw Bifrost & Slowandsteady. Just another nice day on the "trail".
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 Mesa, AZ
Rock Creek Spencer Spring Loop, AZ 
Rock Creek Spencer Spring Loop, AZ
 
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Tortoise_HikerTriplogs 3,652
Hiking15.80 Miles 2,497 AEG
Hiking15.80 Miles   9 Hrs   2 Mns   1.75 mph
2,497 ft AEG
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I've done many a off trail adventures with Wally with a lot less bloodshed :o :) . Wally, Dave and I thought we would hit a couple trails in the Supes we had not done. Thank goodness Wally downloaded a track. Dave wore shorts to make it fair : rambo :. We went up Rock Creek and down Spencer from Miles trailhead. Lots of trail finding on Rock Creek but not a ton of lost blood. This was a pretty cool area in my opinion and Rock Creek Falls was sweet! It was wider than I expected. If only it had that flow on a hot summer day. Going up was slow but we figured going down Spencer would be faster :sl: . The top half of Spencer was brutal. Wally earned some kind of badge for just keeping us on trail as Dave's legs earned one for pain tolerance. Turns out Spencer had some cool areas too. It had a nice waterfall. It wasn't wide like Rock Creek but was taller. After you pass the fall a FAINT trail starts to appear more often with less blood loss. Once back on West Pinto our bodies were elated :lol: . Except for the rough parts there were lots of good parts :-k :D . Cowboy Grave, old mine,old springs,old corrals,Indian Ruins,waterfalls,lots of water and water crossings, and some good conversing! :y: Good times, my friends! :yr: We stopped in Superior to eat and got an added bonus. We got to chit chat with Karl and Kathy, compare wounds and plan for some more. :D
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Oct 04 2015
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 Mesa, AZ
Spencer Spring Trail #275Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,411
Hiking4.00 Miles 1,211 AEG
Hiking4.00 Miles   3 Hrs   15 Mns   1.26 mph
1,211 ft AEG      5 Mns Break25 LBS Pack
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The high hopes for this hike were dampened almost from the start...
First, the heavy dark clouds made us wonder if we should have left this for another day.
Next, the drive up from the 60 near Picketpost on FR650 was a VERY rough one... pretty close to the worst conditions I've ever encountered on it.
(Tracey was having none of going back down later... she insisted we return via FR172)
And last, although our hiking tool-set included hand trimmer and lopper, we simply weren't prepared to complete this one.

Beginning from FR650 we hadn't gone more than a hundred yards before the trail became a labyrinth of routes. How were we to know if this semi-beaten path was a game trail or 'the trail'? While we encountered cairns here and there, for the most part, they were WRONG. That said, traveling from east-to-west was decidedly easier staying on-trail. But wait, I'm getting ahead of myself...

From the outset we decided we would only trim the thorniest and/or most obtrusive brush. Well and good, except at that rate it would take us 12 hours to do the hike so after 75 minutes for one mile of travel we began trimming only thorny brush. Even that became too slow so we stopped trimming completely and just bulled our way through the thickest stuff.

But it wasn't long before this isn't fun anymore and we stopped for a re-think... Should we continue? If so, how far? In the end, my ankle prompted the decision to turn around. It was fine going up, down or when the up-slope was on the left. But when we had a short bit with the down-slope on the left my ankle protested... so with the realization that 95% of the return trip would be left-side down it was time to turn around. (Yesterday's Mount Peeley hike with Ray yesterday probably played its part here as well.)

Of course we made MUCH better time on the return... the trimmed areas felt like highways and the route-finding was easier, not only because we'd already passed through, but even in the thickest spots we could always tell where the trail was. Which is also when we realized many cairns on the FR650 end were in the wrong place, providing false leads.

Ok, since we didn't complete the hike will we return? By mutual agreement we came up with a resounding NO! Too may other trails and even off-trails more fun (and scenic) than this one.

After the hike we drove back out on FR172, stopping at one point to explore an old road on foot and add a bunch more AEG to our day... at least it was straight up and straight down.

Our biggest surprise for the day was the almost absolute lack of traffic. Only a few ATV's on FR650 and ONE pickup along FR172.

Could it be due to football season? If so, I hope football season soon becomes year-round.
;)
Unfortunately the arrival of snow-bird season will more-than-likely offset the football fans staying home.
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 Scottsdale, AZ
Miles Ranch, AZ 
Miles Ranch, AZ
 
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mazatzalTriplogs 1,347
Car Camping23.00 Miles 4,900 AEG
Car Camping23.00 Miles
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Our 17th annual spring break trip for the 2-3 of us (Max and I haven’t done all 17 but Jim has). Good times.
This year we chose Miles Ranch and must give some HAZ appreciation to Lee for sure on this one: thanks for all the suggestions and useful info.

After 30 years of AZ hiking I finally make it to one of FOTG’s favorites :lol: I’m not sure why I hadn’t been here but I think perhaps the massive open pit mines had something to do with it.

Day 1
West Pinto out to Spencer and up to Cement Spring. On the way back we took Cuff Button up to a bit beyond Jerky Spring which was down the side slope.
We got about 3 hours rain in late afternoon but it eased up by 6pm.

Day 2
Paradise to Government Hill ridge and over to Bull Basin. We saw a total of 8 deer (one large buck) on the ridge part of this trip. The descent to Bull Basin we got in some heavy brush that was gnarly :sweat: On our return to Miles we saw 2 Toyotas with HAZ decals :)

Day 3
Out and back from Haunted Canyon upper TH. Saw one hiker, the only person we saw all weekend.

Stopped at AZW on the way back :)
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Spencer Spring Trail #275Globe, AZ
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hikerdwTriplogs 541
Hiking11.50 Miles 1,446 AEG
Hiking11.50 Miles   6 Hrs   10 Mns   2.37 mph
1,446 ft AEG   1 Hour   19 Mns Break
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Challenging hike. We exceeded one of our set turnaround marks we had predetermined so left some unfinished business out there so we will be back.
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 Phoenix, AZ
West Pinto - Spencer Spring LoopGlobe, AZ
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rehlersTriplogs 46
Hiking16.00 Miles 4,080 AEG
Hiking16.00 Miles   9 Hrs   30 Mns   1.68 mph
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I started from Roger's Trailhead on West Pinto, then to Spencer Spring, and returning along FR650 road. The Spencer Spring trail lived up to its reputation over the last 2 miles or so. The overgrowth was not as bad for me as the route finding. I'd recommend going in the first 2-2.5 miles from W. Pinto and not going further.

Trail Conditions
West Pinto - amazing, even better than last time. The early part just out from roger's trailhead has been cleaned up and a sign installed at the confusing area. No overgrowth really to speak of, a stray plant here or there. Easy to follow and beautiful.

Spencer Spring (estimated mileages from West Pinto Trail
(0-2.5 miles) A relaxing and beautiful hike. Not too much overgrowth and fairly easy to follow. Someone put up a lot of cairns and I added more where I ran into problems. Some spots do get a little tricky, but since you are always very close to the stream, its hard to get too far off course
(2.5-3 miles) The trail becomes pretty hard to keep track of, mostly there are just cairns every so often to make you feel not lost. Finding and keeping a trail can be extremely difficult in this section.
(3-3.6 miles) This is where you have to look for the climb up the northern side of the canyon, as mentioned in the description. If you manage to find the trail up, it is very faint and disappears in some parts. I lost it completely and had to bushwack around for awhile, even with a GPS in hand and the route downloaded from here.
(3.6=4.3 miles) This section was also hard to follow, but not nearly as bad. The trail is faint and easy to lose, but with GPS you can keep it. Its also high up now, so you can many times see where it is going. There were sections of extreme overgrowth, but 99% of the plants I had to push through had no thorns (no catclaw), so it was a matter of raising my arms up and just walking through the dense and tall brush. The trail wasn't too hard to follow in this overgrown section, as any other direction was impassible for the most part.

FR650 road. Easy enough after the climb up. It goes quick after Spencer. The 'short cut' to roger's trailhead seemed to start out just along a creek. I didn't bother with it as the sun had already set and I didn't need another route finding disaster with no light. I got back to the trailhead via the road in about 20 minutes from the short cut turn off anyway, so I can't imagine it saving that much time.
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Sawtooth Ridge - Spencer Loop, AZ 
Sawtooth Ridge - Spencer Loop, AZ
 
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joebartelsTriplogs 5,894
Hiking7.60 Miles 3,210 AEG
Hiking7.60 Miles   8 Hrs   45 Mns   0.98 mph
3,210 ft AEG   1 Hour    Break14 LBS Pack
 
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While hiking Cuff Button recently the Sawtooth Ridge caught my eye. Bruce and Karl kindly joined in.

From the top we headed down the ridge. Immediately you go through what looks like a large mansion outlined in rock. It's more exciting on satellite than in person. Over a mile and a half down I commented... "okay this is so easy it's almost boring". A wildfire made this one travel pretty easy.

Easy until about 2.5 mi. The next 0.25 mi / 550 ft up to Peak 5204 took a solid hour. It is steep. You grab chaparral to pull yourself up. Lifting your feet high enough over and over was the challenge for myself. Near the top is a short class four pitch or you can bypass on either side. It was very windy from the beginning of our hike. That tagged on with the previous quarter mile had the other guys in abort mode. I came loaded with batteries for my high power light to get this one done. Yet it was obvious they didn't share the desire. So off we went down a ridge to Spencer.

It was ridiculous thick going down. Took an hour and twenty minutes to go down 0.7mi / 1170 ft. We were all happy to see #275.

From everything I read I was expecting pure hell on upper Spencer. That never played out. We brushed a few catclaw bushes lightly on maybe three occasions. The trail does require attention to figure out and it is overgrown. Yet nothing that I consider horrible by any means. A pretty cool trail/canyon in my experience.

Wore my rarely used fire hose pants for this one. In the first couple miles they didn't seem as hearty as I recalled. By days end, hearing how the others were scratched up, they served well. The only scratches noted in the shower are near my ankles where coverage lacked. Did get stabbed by a Schott's Agave or similar. Karl and I can both attest to the wicked sting. Bruce wouldn't join in on the fun.

For the entire loop, only one mile was extra challenging. It's disappointing seeing only 60% of the ridge covered on map. The work to reward ratio is probably too thin for most. It's not horrible. The views are fantastic.

Karl was running circles around Bruce and I on top of his 10k week!

FS172 seemed rougher than usual. High clearance is still fine for crafty hearty types. FS650 may be 4WD for some to Spencer from 172. It wouldn't phase me much in 2WD. Ice in areas was the only real concern.

Took 3 quarts agua, consumed 1.5
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Sawtooth Ridge - Spencer Loop, AZ 
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BiFrostTriplogs 1,257
Hiking7.60 Miles 3,210 AEG
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Decided to join Joe and Bruce for the Sawtooth Ridge adventure loop. Joe wanted to do the entire ridge but in the interest of not hiking in the dark we decided to drop down off the ridge earlier than planned. In retrospect looking at the route we may have had an easier time continuing on the ridge and going down the planned way instead of the horrendous route we chose. Our exit would have still been in the dark but probably with far less battle scars. The route we chose down seemed to take forever as we crashed through the chaparral, manzanita, and holly oak (ouch!). Once down we found the trail and were pleasantly surprised by the easy walking despite reports of heavy brush on the trail. There were spots we had to look around for the trail but on the whole it was decent. Water and small pools in Spencer Canyon were great with several cool sections of Sycamore and some concrete water tanks around Spencer Spring. Tough hike but we made it out just at sunset. For only 7.6 miles this had to be one of the hardest hikes for that distance.
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