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Nov 25 2025
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Dutchman to Coffee Flat, AZ 
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CannondaleKidTriplogs 2,458
Hiking8.40 Miles 1,359 AEG
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First time starting from Peralta TH in nearly 5 years and well over 12 since hiking this part of the Dutchman Trail so it was about time. At least we gave it time to recover somewhat from the fire... what was it, the Woodbury Fire?

Whatever, it was nice to experience the running washes (on the way out anyway, not so much on the return) and the greenery.

Once on the Coffee Flat Trail things got a bit rougher... instead of the trail following the somewhat straight line Eastward of the original route (from DECADES AGO) which only crossed smaller washes, now it follows an eroded drainage more-or-less Southward before heading East, so the wash crossings are deeper and almost hard to follow, and the climb after the last wash is a mass of baby-head rocks. Needless to say, this part of the hike was not fun and nor was the return through this section.

On RE Satellite view before the hike some distance out Coffee Flat Trail I had noticed a line heading off to the South with something round at the end, which I thought was heading downhill, but when we arrived in the vicinity (Yup, I neglected to set a waypoint) there was no track/trail/cowpath in that direction and it was going UP, so that was the end of any idea of checking it out.

While scanning the area, we noticed a few large boulders that seemed like a good spot to take a lunch break, so we did just that. After the break we noted the distance to the next feature (Reed's Water) along the Coffee Flat Trail was farther than we cared to go for this out-and-back hike, so we headed back.

As I mentioned, we noticed already there was less water flowing (sometimes just pools) in the washes compared to 2-3 hours earlier, so I guess in a day or two with no additional rain they will be dry again.

While the hill on the return wasn't nearly akin to cardiac hill, from the low point of the last wash up to the top before the last descent felt like it, especially at the end of the hike.

Thankfully, for the most part Peralta Road was in great shape so as long as the 10 mph low-slung cars let us pass, it wasn't a half-hour drive in either direction.
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Nov 02 2025
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Dripping Springs Super LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Hiking9.23 Miles 1,149 AEG
Hiking9.23 Miles   7 Hrs   27 Mns   1.41 mph
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Day 2 of dripping springs super loop backpack.

The best surprise was seeing a desert tortoise on the trail!! My first time seeing one in the wild. I almost stepped on him. He was chilling out right on the dutchman trail, only about 1.5 miles from the Peralta TH.

We took bets as to how many cars would be at the Trailhead upon our return. I guessed 10, but at our arrival at 320p,there were actually 14. 🤣🤣
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Sad spring. Pool nearby but not great looking.

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Lots of pools and flowing water.

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Lots of pools after the huge rain a few weeks ago.

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Water underneath the windmill. No water elsewhere.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Lots of water. Big pool. Nice and clear.
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Great backpack around dripping springs super loop! Went with a first time backpacker. In 20/20 hindsight, this was not a good choice. Never the less, we enjoyed our adventure. We did the loop ccw.

In general, there was pretty much water everywhere! It was beautiful and resulted in a very green desert! Lots of grass, leafed out ocotillos, and quite a bit of wild flowers.

We headed out at 7a and arrived at Reeds Water before 11a. We enjoyed a snack on the grass by the windmill. It was very green and very humid and buggy in this area. We headed back on trail out to Randolph canyon which is currently a beautiful water wonderland! So much water. We crossed the canyon and checked out the massive camping area which is currently a green meadow full of grass. Lots of great flat giant campsites.

We headed back to Randolph canyon and down towards dripping spring. This was my first time going from Reeds water to dripping spring. The canyon was amazing with so much water. There is a nice campsite just prior to dripping springs, but it is rather in vegetation and was quite buggy in the heat. The trail goes right past the campsite, and lets out at the confluence of Randolph canyon and Fraser canyon. We headed back a bit to check out dripping spring which is very underwhelming. I would hate to have to rely on that spring for water! There was a pool next to it, but it didn't look great. Currently, this is not an issue because of the massive amount water flowing in Randolph canyon.

We thought about modifying the original plan to do an out and back to dripping springs backpack, but after arriving at dripping springs at just before noon, we decided to keep going as we had the whole day ahead of us. We headed out on red tanks in the canyon. So much water around, it really is a site to behold. We stopped and filtered water at a pretty water fall before taking the trail up and out of Randolph canyon. The trail in red tank canyon was okay, just not regularly used and overgrown and rocky in parts. The red tanks trail guide written 20 years ago is still spot on for accuracy of trail conditions. 🤣🤣 The trail gets higher but the canyon (and the pools of water currently within) remain visible. The last mile before the red tanks divide is an uphill slog. The views from the divide are definitely nice. While heading down we were just looking for a campsite near water. We ended up on a nice bench with grand views just lower than the trail. There were accessible large clear pools just down in the drainage. We were only about half mile from the nice large sandy campsite at Brad's water, but having never been to the area before, we were unaware. Our campsite had great views. The moon was between half and full, and it made for a pretty night.

The next morning we were off again. The trail is nonexistent in the wash areas just after Brad's water. The route was helpful, and once out of the wash, the trail picks up again. Red tanks in general has a lot of catclaw, and sadly we did not escape unscathed. After more time in the wash, the trail goes high on the ridge making for some phenomenal views of the canyon below, the ridge, and the surrounding area. There are impressive unburned saguaros in this area, and after a while Herman Cave comes into view. About a half mile before the cave is a nice campsite. Even high up in the ridge, running water can be heard from the canyon below. We enjoyed seeing fragile arch when looking out across the canyon.

Heading down near the cave, the trail crosses the wash a couple times. This area is overgrown and has a lot of dead fall. There was also a huge pool of water, as well. The junction with whiskey springs was more of the same, water everywhere and lots of green!

The trip back to the car was uneventful. Green desert, hotter temps than desired, and no people to speak of! We didn't see any people our entire hike, woo hoo! I thought for certain we would see someone on Dutchman, but no. There were more wild flowers than I expected to see, so that was fun. The whiskey springs trail from the high point down to the junction with Dutchman is really a delight. The views in that area never fail to inspire. 🌵💚🌵💚

A great backpack in the supes. I can't wait to get back out there! 😊
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Coffee Flat Trail #108Phoenix, AZ
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Life has been getting in the way of my getting outside...with the drop in temps, I figured I had to take advantage of it, even if it meant getting a late start and a lot fewer miles than typical for me. Was looking for something relatively easy but scenic where I could just walk and enjoy - I figured either the lost goldmine trail (again) or a walk as far as I could get taking into account my available daylight out the Coffee Flat trail from Peralta Trailhead. @00blackout suggested I hit Coffee Flat for a change in scenery, and the recommendation didn't disappoint.

Arrived at the trailhead at about 1:15 to find the main lot with a handful of spaces available, with more people coming off trail than heading in. Gathered my things, signed the register and headed off with the skies full of puffy clouds and variable winds. On the initial climb up out of the parking lot, a group of equestrians passed me on their way out. Hiking onward, I soon passed two more hikers heading out in quick succession - I had the trail to myself for the remainder of my day.

The clouds made for interesting skies, and the changing breeze made flower photography a bit dicy. Unfortunately I discovered a number of my photos were blurry (gold poppies, wirelettuce/skeletonplant, and some small purple blooms that I'm not convinced were scorpionweed. Also got a photo of a saguaro with blooms, but alas, it was too far away to be worth including). The scenery along the hike was beautiful, especially when entering areas that had stands of saguaro and ocotillo. In addition to the views, the geology underfoot proved plenty interesting, with shale, quartz, and even some obsidian making an appearance, in addition to a bunch of other rock types that I wasn't certain of.

Once I hit my designated turn around time (just shy of hitting Reeds Water / Randolph canyon), I turned around to retrace my steps - I made better time heading back, since I wasn't stopping as frequently to try to take photos of plants 😆. Made it back to the lot to find just a handful of cars remaining. Seems I started heading home just in time as my drive home was spent battling strong crosswinds and flying debris.

Wildlife: plenty of birds, mostly quail, especially in the later hours, a couple of lizards, and numerous butterflies (none of which were photographed). Spied a couple of cows close to the trail...they failed to startle me 🤭

It was fantastic to get back out on a trail, I was clearly missing it and was suffering from withdrawl. I'll definitely need to head back out along Coffee Flat when I have more time to cover more distance!
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Not very many...the cholla, prickly pear, and saguaro look like they are getting ready to put on a show, but there aren't very many buds on the plants this year.
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Reeds & Brads Water Out-n-Back via Whitlow, AZ 
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The_EagleTriplogs 2,831
Hiking18.63 Miles 2,268 AEG
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The hike begins 10 miles off Highway 60, past the Queen Valley Golf Course, onto Elephant Butte Road, and then continues for the final 4 miles on North Elephant Butte Road. This last stretch requires a 4-wheel-drive vehicle with high clearance and good tires. It was the toughest test for my Subi to date! At one point on the way in, a tire was off the ground, and on the way out, another tire found itself suspended in a different spot.

The hike started with 27-degree temperatures and gentle breezes. It was a 2.6-mile trek to Reeds Well, where Joe measured the water depth at 4 feet.

Next, we followed the Coffee Flat Trail up Randolph Canyon (Sorry, Kelly—no coffee was found). This section featured picturesque views, interesting geology, and even a few cottonwoods still holding onto their fall leaves. There are some pools of water here, that the cows seem to enjoy. Be careful if you plan to filter.

At Fraser Canyon, we turned onto the Red Tanks Trail and made our way up Red Tanks Canyon. This was the longest climb of the day, gaining about 1,000 feet in elevation. We paused for lunch at the Red Tanks Divide, where we were unexpectedly passed by our 4th, 5th, and 6th backpackers of the day—quite a crowd for a Monday!

Our final two objectives were a 700-foot descent (and the return climb) and a 1.7-mile trek from the divide.

Brad’s Water was full, offering an opportunity for those inclined to wade in and splash around. This area is an old mine site that has since flooded. From there, we headed to Brad’s Cabin. All that remains is the perimeter rock wall, a substantial concrete foundation, and numerous tools and implements left behind. Thanks to the nearby water supply, the foundation and floor were poured entirely in concrete.

We retraced our steps as daylight dwindled, making our way back to the car for the drive out.

The temperatures throughout the day were perfect for hiking. Although we never felt the forcasted high winds on the trail, they made themselves known during the drive home.
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Enough water to swim in.


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Water is at least 4' deep, and is 4' below the surface. Bring the means to collect and filter from the well.
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Reeds & Brads Water Out-n-Back via Whitlow, AZ 
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Had a 25ft nylon stringer in my pack to gauge Reeds and checkout Brads via the lasso loop from Peralta with an early start to get solid confirmation during the driest of times. SleepTillNoon chimed in so I revised to the closer Whitlow approach.

Based on helpful info shared by 00Dilling & ShatteredArm, it seemed like Bruce's Subaru could certainly make it to the large apron a mile before Whitlow. Scratch certainly and forget stock 2WD HC, I was impressed he didn't turn back in two spots that would have made the hike longer than Peralta.

It was an intriguing ride since I've never been on or up Elephant Butte Road. Moments felt like dialing back time and driving through the Superstitions.

The approach hike through Whitlow seemed longer and sandier in the morning. Returning seemed twice as quick late afternoon and less sandy.

Coffee Flat Trail #108
The term flat is broken.

Red Tanks Trail #107
Pretty area. Cumbersome constantly verifying each option heading up. Descending on the return seemed less of a hassle and quicker.

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Good to get'er done and experience the Whitlow approach. Two more sources not tapping into the water table I might check out soon.
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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Bone dry, nearby prickly pear pads are paper thin.

The oasis nearby at Brad's Water is easy to access and plentiful.

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Easily accessible and dependable water source in the Superstitions.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout At least 3.5 ft deep based on a 2x6 board I attached to a 25 ft line. Approximately 15* ft to the water.

*Bruce said 4, probably 10 ft closer...lol
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Superstition jaunt, AZ 
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I haven't been able to really get in more than an overnight backpacking trip so far this season but finally had the chance last week, from Wednesday to Saturday. Since it was the first (and perhaps only) longer trip of the season, I figured I'd just do a nice little tour de western supes to enjoy all the running water, 3 nights/4 days. I started at Peralta and went clockwise, Dutchman -> Coffee Flat -> Side Trip down Randolph Canyon -> Red Tanks -> Dutchman -> Cavalry -> Boulder -> Terrapin -> Bluff, roughly 33 miles, with the plan to do 6 or 7 the first day and 12 or so on days 2 and 3 leaving a short hike out on day 4.

The road in was fine but I did notice way more campers/RVs/etc than previous years. Like, massive amounts more and there are a couple areas where forest service/county/someone has dropped some porta potties. I know there was a race this past weekend so maybe some of it was related to that but looks more like a lot of long termers. Was generally just surprised by the difference in numbers this year compared to previous.

As expected, all the creeks were running great, meaning I never carried more than my 700ml water bottle. I was able to rock hop and keep my feet dry at most crossings but this is basically impossible on some of the crossings of La Barge on the red tanks section and definitely impossible on the section of trail between reeds water and dripping spring but I had brought an extra pair of socks and sandals to wear at camp so no problem there. The days were in the high 60s/low 70s which was a bit warmer than I would've liked due to the lack of shade, but nothing bad. Nights were low/mid-30s which was fantastic.

Most of these trails are well used so the conditions are just fine and able to make great time on without any fuss. The only exception is the stretch of Red Tanks from the Randoph canyon junction to whiskey spring. There were several spots where I ended up off trail and had a very tough time filled with many bloody cuts finding it again. Also very overgrown in many places; in this section, I think I barely averaged 1 mph. I was on this trail 14-18 months ago and don't remember it being near this bad but now I need a new shirt and shorts.

The drive out was uneventful except for one lady on a bike raising her fists and screaming at me on Peralta. It seems obvious to me that if you're slowly riding a bike on the wrong side of a dirt road, a car will pass you at some point, so not entirely sure what she was angry about but that's people for ya.
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It was a beautiful early spring day with recent January rains making all the creeks run. There was plenty of wonderful water rippling with splendor and many puddles to jump in during the hike. The spring wildflowers are coming soon. :y:

I went clockwise around Miner's Needle Loop. I also added a few offshoots for exploration for future trips. At Bluff Springs, I headed north on Dutchman's trail to see to the north for a future through high on the full Dutchman.

I also hiked east on the Whiskey Springs leg. The Forest Rangers stationed at the Peralta Trailhead this morning warned against hiking the Whiskey Springs trail since it is "no longer being actively maintained". However, I was not deterred and I explored about 1.5 miles along the trail to the east, where there is an amazing campsite at a saddle before the final leg of the trail winds down to Whiskey Springs itself. The views from the saddle are stunning with magnificent views to the west and the east at the same time from the saddle. Upon returning to the trailhead, I advised the Forest Rangers that the trail isn't bad and that they need not discourage hiking on the trail.

1.20 miles - 8:24 am
Water flowing at a gallon per minute

3.81 miles - 9:41 am
Multiple gallons per minute

6.37 miles - 10:44 am
Amazing camping spot at the saddle near Whiskey Springs. Magnificent views to the west and the east at the same time from the saddle.
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I only saw 2 California Poppies on the entire Miner's Needle Loop today. Coming soon after the rains.

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Clear water flowing from recent rains.

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Coffee Flat Trail #108Phoenix, AZ
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I took the day off. I went hiking. The trail was good. I went off the trail. The pictures tell the rest.
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Meh, an easy and mediocre loop considering the crappy approach drive with all the geriatric snowbird side by siders. Completed in reverse (CCW), descending the uninspiring Randolph Canyon first. Cow feces everywhere, loaded up with dry burdocks, mostly pre-burnt with overgrown, unnecessarily cairned side passages. Every hike can't be great, but I guess no trail should go unhiked. : wink : Dese was with me, so it was an appropriate pick for today, but both of us couldn't wait until this loop ended!
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Feb 26 2023
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Dripping Springs Super LoopPhoenix, AZ
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Originally planned on doing this from Milk Ranch Creek to save a couple miles, but with the overnight rain, decided that road would be a little risky. So we headed out to Peralta for a 9:30am start, with the trailhead more vacant than I've seen it in about 10 years.

All the creeks were flowing across the flat part of Dutchman, and things got a little more exciting when sleet started falling, and there was 1-2 inches of snow at Miners Summit. Snow below 3k in the Superstitions is really a sight to behold...

First time on Whiskey Springs trail. catclaw wasn't as bad as I expected. La Barge was flowing nice and strong, and I enjoyed the Upper Box stretch. First time through there in nine years.

Red Tanks beyond the last crossing of La Barge was all new to me, and this offered the hardest route finding, the most catclaw, and the most snow. It was thoroughly enjoyable, and the view from Red Tanks Divide was unforgettable.

We took a long-ish break at Dripping Springs, and also poked around Reed's Water for a few minutes. The rest of the way back I was in "let's get this over with" mode. Chocolate covered coffee beans are money as it turns out.

Really fun day, I think that leaves about 15 miles of official trail within the Superstition Wilderness that I haven't seen yet.
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Coffee Flat Mountain 4621 Summit, AZ 
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ScottHikaTriplogs 50
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I’ve been eying Coffee Flat summit for a while. Cloudy skies and temps in the 50s and I was sold. Fiends cancelled so I went anyway solo. I’ve been up top Coffee Flat but never to the actual 4621 summit. I had an 18 pound pack with the usual supplies. I brought my water filter but decided to carry enough so as not to slow down. Could have left a few hours earlier but it was either dark in the am or dark in the pm so I chose the pm. The time zone was loose rocks and sharp plants so I set my clock forward.

Not many people were at Peralta at start so I beat the crowds mostly folks headed up to Fremont Saddle etc. On the day, I passed only two backpackers the entire trip. This is a great time of year perfect weather and the wildflowers are just emerging. There is water still running through the canyons and probably more soon with pending rain. My route was to be Dutchman’s 104 to Whiskey Springs 238 for a short while, then cut up to Circle and follow the ridge to the 4621 CF summit and proceed back the same way. I calculated the distance at 7-8 miles x 2 but decided to head back a different way. I prefer loops but I chose the longer possibly safer way around making the hike 20 miles. I saw lizards and birds and lots of bees working the spring flowers. I came across possible big cat prints and definitely old coyote crap but no mammals.

The terrain was manageable but slowed me down to a crawl in places, like dragging a dead body around. This was mainly due to the slope, hidden rollers, scrambling, scree and climbing (and coming from the Boomer Generation). Up top at the summit it was still and eerie quiet and I managed to get up there between storms so very cool. There was no apparent summit register so I did add a small glass bottle with a few cards inside. Hope some other HAZ members will drop by and make a note. This one was tough for me. At my age I probably won’t be back at least not via that route. I had lunch, and took in everything that is any reason for ever making such a trip. I was considering Picacho Butte being right there, but decided to pass regrettably as I was already behind schedule. There are a few places in Red Tanks I wanted to explore that will have to wait as well.

Admiring the view I contemplated my return options other than an out and back. Dropping down into La Barge was the quick way back but, I didn’t like the look of the steep slope. I also heard that the upper box is a catclaw nightmare right now. Being solo means being more responsible. I was also eying the somewhat steep hike down Coffee Flat Canyon in the direction of Buzzards Roost. I knew I’d hit Coffee Flat 108 somewhere near Reeds Water. That would be a really long bushwhack though. I decided to head towards Red Tanks divide and follow the somewhat familiar trail around Red Tanks and through Randolph Canyon, Coffee Flat and Dutchman. I once read that Tom Kollenborn found a horse route up and over Coffee Flat Mountain. The steep cliffs make it impractical but possible on horseback. As I was heading down, I kept thinking to myself, “What would a horse do here?” All the sudden I was finding cairns. Not modern cairns but old school cowboy cairns. I was picking up debris as well so somebody besides me was thinking it was a practical route. I hit the divide and with sigh of relief I switched to trail mode. All of the trails were really nice and if I got a scratch I didn’t notice it.

I really like wading through canyon water so Randolph was a super cool foot bath. Also Coffee Flat trail is always so very nice and sandy soft on my old feet. I got back in the dark and headed home apologizing to friends and family for being out of communication and exceeding my estimated return time. I took extra pics so hope you will take a look and enjoy.
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Quick trip out to Randolph Canyon, since I decided the recent rain would make the Superstitions a good option. Decided to check out the Milk Ranch Creek access. The drive out there was fun. There was a trickle in Milk Ranch, but Randolph was flowing good. No way to keep the feet dry.

Went as far as Dripping Spring. I originally had the thought to do the whole loop using Red Tanks and Whiskey Springs, or at least go up Red Tanks to La Barge, but I was feeling especially lazy, so I headed back.

Pretty area, all of that was new to me except Dripping Spring.

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This is one I wanted to do for a while. To long to do entire trail as there-and-back, so we just went about 6 miles to the Windmill and came back. Another great Sup hike.
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First time hiking out to Dripping Springs via Dutchman and then Coffee Flat. Parked at Peralta at about 7:15am... half a dozen cars at most on a Friday morning. Chilly start at about 41degrees but peaked at almost 70 by 2pm. Hike almost 3 miles to where Dutchman turns North past Miners Needle, this is where Coffee Flat trail starts and the first few miles of CF are pretty much the same as Dutchman. However, once you drop into Randolph Canyon at Reeds water, the entire hike changes as you enter the riparian zone. And WOW, all that blessed water! The creek was running all the way from Reeds water to Frasier Canyon and the junction with Red Tanks trail. This was my target turn around point and what a nice spot. Frasier canyon is just beautiful, especially was all this extra water flowing through it. I did notice Dripping Springs was, err... dripping. Not sure how reliable that source usually is, but would take quite a bit of patience to gather a few liters from here. After some R&R, turned around and headed for home. 15 mile day... more than I am used to and my legs are feeling it tonight!
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We were back at Peralta Trailhead for the second straight weekend after hiking at Bluff Spring Mountain last Saturday. I hadn't gone east on Coffee Flat before, so a hike to Dripping Springs was a chance to see some new territory. The parking lot wasn't very busy, and we started with thick clouds that gave the hike a very different atmosphere from the clear, sunny day we had last weekend, but it was an interesting change of pace.

We turned onto Coffee Flat and headed into new territory, with Buzzard's Roost and the other peaks along the ridgeline to the east. The fire damage along the trail wasn't as bad as I expected based on other triplogs, but maybe I was benefitting from low expectations. We explored a little around Reeds Water, where there was some bright fall color in the cottonwoods along the creek bed. In addition to the usual assortment rusty tools, there were a few random food items nearby, including two fresh-looking red onions on the ground and an unopened jar of alfredo sauce hanging from a tree. Tempting as it was, we generously left those for future campers...it's the season for giving, after all.

We spent a minute or two searching for the giant saguaro in that area but didn't see it, then looked for the pictographs/petroglyphs nearby. That was a success--we found the red kokopelli pictograph of questionable authenticity...someone had even trimmed the brush nearby to make it more visible. It looked faded and subtle enough to be native rock art, but it's hard to tell...graffiti is usually more obvious and overstated. We looked around a little more for the petroglyphs but didn't see those.

Continuing east on Coffee Flat, there were a few small caves low in the canyon wall that we went over and took a look at, and the fall colors, the cliffs, the geology, and the flowing water made for a pleasant hike. The sand in the creek bed was mostly solid, even in the damp areas...except when it wasn't. I stepped on one spot that looked solid and sank in to my lower shin in quicksand-like muck. The same thing happened to me a few times in Trap Canyon last year [ photo ] , and this incident also left me with a boot full of wet sand and gravel. I lost confidence in the sandy areas and tried to stick to the rocks after that...

Dripping Spring had a steady trickle of water that reminded me of Massacre Falls during a light flow. There was a lot of thorny brush that I had to cut through to get to the base of the rocks, and we also checked out a cave just to the right of the spring that had a (javelina?) skull, an old lantern, and a few other pieces of debris around a fire ring.

We hiked a short distance on Red Tanks Trail and saw a pair of deer before we turned around and started back. The sun started to break through the clouds on the hike out, and it was nice to get some sunshine and shadows after the cloudy morning. We looked for the giant saguaro near Reeds Water on the way out and found a big one, but not the big one. It wasn't until I got home and read through more triplogs that I learned it's no longer there...missed it by a few years [ photo ] :(.

We didn't see anyone on the trails until we were back at Bark at Dutchman Crossing near the end of the hike. We ended up seeing more people on horseback/muleback than we did hikers, with a few riders over the last half mile. It was a really pleasant day checking out a new part of the Superstitions...nothing too adventurous or difficult, just straightforward miles on the trails, but great scenery and comfortable temperatures.
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On the second day I took the Hewitt Canyon road to an area of the Superstitions I had only been to once before when I was doing the Arizona Trail. There are a couple trails I have not been on before and one of them was the East end of the Coffee Flat and the west end of the Woodbury Trail. The Woodbury trail is pretty much nonexistent to the old JF Ranch headquarters marked occasionally by cairns and maintained by whatever animals may use it. With close observation and a little imagination I believe I followed along where the trail use to be. The old abandon JF Ranch headquarters are still there complete with what looked like a working windmill, it was spinning in the wind and that’s what they are supposed to do, Could use a little lubricant though. From the JF Ranch the trail was a bit easier to follow though most of the time it just stayed in the creek bed of Frazier Canyon. At 5 miles in I came to Randolph Canyon and my turn around point. I was at this point 4 years ago on another hike along the west end of the Coffee Flat Trail. My original plan was to return along Randolph Canyon but with it getting late in the day I opted to return the way I came. Frazier Creek and Randolph Creek had a light flow. The scenery on the hike and the drive in is high on the WOW factor meter and the drive out at sunset was pegging it.
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Went from Peralta TH to Reeds Water. Weather was perfect. Not too much traffic on the trail. Saw no one on Coffee Flats except for the lone backpacker set up right next to the upper windmill. He did not wish to chat, and left his tent and went off without a word while we had a quick lunch near the windmill. The windmill looks in better shape then the last time I saw it. Water could be seen 15 feet down below the windmill, but not elsewhere. The lower windmill area looked very inviting with a nice flat grassy area, and without the moaning sound of the upper windmill blades turning.

The biggest shocker for me was the giant Peralta Regional Park sign and the new road with huge gate across it. I was unaware, but I see the initial plan was brought up in 2007. Wow. Definitely going to be a big change, as mentioned in the forum and triplog post discussing it.

Saw 2 alpacas in the parking lot with their owner at the end of our hike. They always make me smile!

Only water was a pool on Dutchman not too far from the trailhead.
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I only did a section of the trail--up to the junction with Red Tanks. As others have no doubt pointed out, this area was hit hard by the burn in summer 2020. Saguaros are dying left and right. The landscape is pretty barren. But of course, that has its own beauty too.

If you are relying on Reeds Water, follow your sight-line to the windmill. I couldn't figure out how the trail leads to it... other than coming up from the east/south. As of my visit, there was plenty of water in the bottom of the mill--as per others instructions on how to lower your cistern into the bottom (rope, container, etc.)

Coming out of Reeds Water, I didn't make the left turn along the wall and ended up going south in the drainage for a couple hundred feet. Just make sure you make the left (going east).

The wall along dripping springs was wet. But no pools or reliable source that I could see. About a 100 feet downstream, definitely a little pool that was passable for filtering. (though I didn't.)
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