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East Sawmill Canyon Trail #146 - 5 members in 20 triplogs have rated this an average 4 ( 1 to 5 best )
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May 12 2025
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Florida Peak via East Sawmill, AZ 
Florida Peak via East Sawmill, AZ
 
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It was going to be a hot one, so I figured the best antidote to that was a little elevation. I hadn’t done East Sawmill in the Ritas before, so why not Florida Peak?

I wasn’t super confident my trail vehicle would be up for the road to the East Sawmill trailhead; it would probably make it but I didn’t have a buddy to help deal with the chance it wouldn’t, so I made for Greaterville trailhead instead. That road was a bit bumpier than I expected but no trouble at all. I wouldn’t recommend it for vehicles with particularly low clearance but most passenger cars would be fine.

Greaterville trail starts off with a steep climb punctuated by stretches of loose rock not unlike marbles, which made the descent at the end of the day exciting. The trail levels off toward the spine of a series of hills, and makes for a pleasant saddle with nice oak trees and a lovely view. It then makes a gradual descent to the East Sawmill trail.

The junction is not where the HAZ route indicates. It’s about a quarter mile past it. As I would discover, the East Sawmill trail deviates considerably from the HAZ route.

From the junction, East Sawmill is a steady climb toward Florida Peak. At first it climbs well above the canyon bottom through oak scrub, but eventually joins the more densely wooded canyon floor that rises to meet the trail. I saw deer everywhere in this stretch, though the vegetation and their spry movement prevented any photos. There were a few decent pools in the drainage, too. It was much easier to photograph those.

The trail then climbed above the drainage again, switching back repeatedly and crossing a muddy seep. It passes a nice campsite, which was an ideal place to have a snack and short rest before the contour lines got tighter.

After the campsite the trail got brushy and tread quality declined for a stretch. I passed Sawmill Spring, which is developed and has plenty of water. I didn’t draw any though.

Shortly after the spring the trail conditions improve markedly, and there are long switchbacks through very, very dense young pine. It’s pleasant walking but one can’t help but imagine the place would get catastrophically torched if another fire sweeps through.

Halfway through this stretch I saw a long-dead fallen tree, probably a juniper, that was absolutely huge and must have been ancient. The trunk was maybe twelve feet in diameter. The trunk had been hollowed out by fire and somehow a big boulder was in the middle of it, making a nice place to sit (I passed on the opportunity).

Proceeding up, the burn area continued but got less thick. The pines were fewer but bigger, and the trail brushier. It was evident there hadn’t been much maintenance in years. The brush, often catclaw, was thick enough to challenge anyone’s commitment to shorts. I was very thankful I was wearing pants.

As the trees thinned I started getting some nice views and a lot more wind. It was a warm day but breezy and overcast, so it was actually quite pleasant.

Finally I reached the high point, just below Florida Peak. I made for the peak sort of following the HAZ route, but mostly just picking the easiest path I could make out. As far as off trail ascents go, it’s pretty easy.

The peak does afford some great views of the Crest. It was very windy so I just signed the log, took a couple pictures, and left.

I made my way down to Florida Saddle for a late lunch. The route traverses a few severe burn areas in various stages of recovery. Florida Saddle was sunny and hot, so I didn’t stay longer than was necessary to scarf my Mediterranean orzo pasta salad.

There’s great cell service there, and it’s a good thing too as I got a text from Wifey to remind me I had a 6pm meeting in midtown. It was 2pm when I got that, so I did the math and… holy crap I’d have to hike 20-minute miles to make it on time.

I did my best but while the tread is generally in great shape, the brushy overgrowth and frequent steep declines of loose rock were not conducive to 20-minute miles. On the latter half of the descent my feet decided they weren’t fans of the idea either.

I made it back to the car at 4:25, got home at 5:52, showered and grabbed takeout before arriving at the meeting at 6:28. I didn’t miss anything critical, so it all worked out. It made for a long day though.
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A few columbines where there were pools.

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water report recorded in the field on our app Route Scout Nice catchment basin built to hold plenty of water. You can hear it trickling down the drainage a fair distance below.
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This adventure began before the hike. The directions need some bonus text. This is very much a remote TH. Over an hour off pavement=4 hour drive for me when expecting 3. FR 165 is for HC vehicles.

Needless to say, it was just us at the TH & saw noone else on these trails. This trail is rather chill but does make you work some on your way back out. Sawmill Canyon is steeper and eventually caused half our group to bow out.

Me + 1 pushed through 15 more switchbacks before leaving the trail for FL Peak. I knew I'd see @Jim_H on that registry. That peak had been on my wishlist for over 2 years. Sweet Tomatoes in Tucson afterward. 🍽️
 
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I got a lot of great help from user Jim_H to make my first visits to the Santa Ritas (this is my first triplog here, not sure if we can tag other users). I did 2 backpacks in a week there after bailing on my first trip due to getting caught in "severe gale force" winds and driving snow (Mar 14-15) at Baldy Saddle. My tent got blown down and I had to cowboy camp in 50+ mph sustained winds & sub-freezing temps. This report is mostly from my second trip.

AZT / Ditch Mountain
Be warned: the only commercially available map for the Santa Ritas (Green Trail Maps) shows the wrong location of the AZT, as does CalTopo. That caused problems for me on my first trip. Second trip I followed the old AZT routing starting from Apache Springs TH - down the Forest Road to Ditch Mountain Trail. Camped near Bear Spring.

Walker Basin / Gardner Canyon
Good climbs on these trails to go from the foothills of the Santa Ritas to the Crest. I didn't start to see snow on the trail until the upper reaches of Gardner Cyn Tr (~8000'). Looking around at north-facing slopes showed the snow level starting ~6500'.

Super Trail
The stretch of Super Tr from Gardner Cyn to Baldy Saddle was mostly snow covered. Fortunately the snow was still cold and hard-packed (Mar 21) so I was not post-holing. Another good climb, ~500' over a half mile. I didn't attempt Wrightson, it was completely snow covered, but some day hikers were doing it. Camped on a little exposed knoll above Baldy Saddle with great views - the same spot I got stormed out of a few days before.

Crest
Most of the Crest Tr was snow covered but it was entirely passable. I carried traction devices but didn't need them the whole trip. Snow was still cold and hard-packed (Mar 22) so I was not post-holing. As with all Sky Island crests - incredible views with many mountain ranges in the distance (Huachucas, Whetstones, Patagonias, Rincons, Catalinas, etc.)

East Sawmill Canyon
After Crest this was my second favorite Trail of the hike. Starts off a little confusingly by continuing to rise along the Santa Rita crest before dropping into East Sawmill Cyn. Beautiful forests up top, tight canyon in the middle, desert scrubland at the end.

Greaterville
My map showed the beginning and end points of this trail as about the same elevation so I thought it was going to be a mostly flat walk. Nope. Goes straight up a ridge then straight back down the other side. Greaterville Tr links to FR 165 which I took until connecting back with the AZT.

AZT
Road walk for a bit to Kentucky Camp where I stayed the night. Better camping back along the AZT than here at KY but there was water at KY. Finished up the trip along the AZT back to Apache Springs TH.


All in all the Santa Ritas were a great place to backpack. Trail system very nice and no problems navigating. Water was flowing everywhere except Baldy Spring which was covered in snow. Thanks again to Jim_H.
 
Sep 18 2022
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East Sawmill Canyon Trail #146Tucson, AZ
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Nice approach to Florida peak!
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Florida Canyon Trail #145Tucson, AZ
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All day up/down/out/back route. Up FC145 to the saddle > down CC149 to the end of the road > back up to the saddle > down ESC146 > continue on GV79 > turn around at the wilderness boundary > back up to the saddle > back down FC145 to the start. Quality trails - upper FC has a few downed trees, upper ESC is moderately overgrown, CC and GV are in great shape. Very dry out there, just thin snow patches up high, only useful water at Sawmill Spring.

Topping off a great day, at dusk while descending along a small drainage with a trickle of water in it, saw a big, long-tailed brown cat streak up and out the other side of the drainage and vanish in about 2 seconds - mountain lion sighting!!
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I've been trying to explore some of the trails in the Santa Rita's (Wrightson) lately. Some weeks back I went up the Florida Canyon Trail which, at the Florida Saddle, connects with Sawmill and Cave Canyon (Cave Creek) trails. I put together a loop that combined both. Unfortunately, a good bit of road walking is involved. I started on Cave Canyon. Like a number of trails in the area, it starts off well-forested and riparian. It then shifts to steep switchbacks in an exposed burn area. Although there are some pines coming back, most of the exposed terrain is covered by the scratchy mix of bushes you'd expect. Cave Canyon is excellently maintained for all that, and the views were great. After Florida Saddle, I continued up a bit through the overgrown sections of Sawmill, which then dips down steeply.
Sawmill Spring has plenty of great water (looks perennial) and I startled some deer who had the same idea.
I was able to fill up my water again at the official start of Sawmill, at a stream crossing.
Unfortunately, to make the hike a loop, the remainder needed to be road walk. Until I reached FR92, there wasn't much traffic.
The highlight of Sawmill is Sawmill Spring, but as between it and Cave Canyon, I'd choose the latter. I would definitely recommend Cave Canyon as an alternative route to the summit, but would not at all suggest replicating my loop hike. Too much road for not enough trail.

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Box of cool, clear, tasty water. And plenty of it.
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Greaterville and East Sawmill canyon trails, AZ 
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quick workout up to the peak and back
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May 31 2020
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great day for this. Went to Florida saddle. Little bit of rain near the end
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Parked at the end of Gardner Canyon Rd. The road is in very good shape, only two short rocky spots and one spot of water.

Headed up Link Trail, then up Gardner Canyon trail. I like Gardner Canyon, the pine trees are nice. The trail is generally in good shape, although the upper half is steep and not much shade. The other bonus is that it doesn't seem to get much use.

Once we reached Super Trail, we headed north and made our way up to Baldy Saddle, where we took a short break. After that, we headed up to Wrightson. The mile or so from the saddle to the summit was very crowded with other hikers, as expected. Out of the entire day, this was the only section where we saw anyone else. Quick stop at the summit to take a few pic, but it was very buggy (as was the majority of the day) so we kept moving.

Another break at the saddle, then we continued north on Crest Trail. Again, the sections with pines are very pleasant. Some spots of the trail are brushy and I was glad I wore pants instead of shorts. At Florida Saddle, we got onto East Sawmill and headed over towards Florida Peak. Sawmill is very overgrown, and is kind of a hassle to hike. The short offtrail up to Florida was actually a relief, although we didn't hang around on the summit since it was buzzing with insects.

Once back at Florida Saddle, we headed down Cave Canyon trail. Once again, I really liked Cave Canyon. The trail is steep in the upper half, but in nice shape, and not overgrown. There was a good amount of water flowing in the lower half. Very pleasant hiking, although not much breeze so it felt warm.

I wasn't feeling all that great, so the hike was more of a grind than it should have been, but it was still enjoyable. Within the first mile of the hike, I'd actually had the thought that I would have turned around if I hadn't just driven nearly three hours for this. That was really the only reason I went through with the hike. The heat and insects were also two negatives of the day. Still, it was good to get out there, and even better to only have to deal with other hikers for less than two miles of the entire loop. I think next time, I'll skip the Florida Peak part, and make the loop a little shorter. We each went through just under 4 liters of water.

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A couple of pools. Didn't look great.

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Plenty of water in the pools and for the first 1.5 miles of Cave Canyon trail.

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May 09 2020
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Headed down to the Santa Ritas to check out a couple more trails. We started off at Florida Canyon TH in order to shorten the drive (although adding on Florida Canyon trail clearly adds to the overall time and effort). It felt pretty warm early on, but that may be because of the exertion it takes to get up to that saddle. I was doubting at that point whether it would be a good idea to do the full route.

We headed onto Sawmill trail, and I suggested that while we're up there, we might as well bag Florida Peak. So we did, and the view was worth it. We tried to reconnect with Sawmill by sticking to the east side of the ridge, but that turned out not to be a time saver.

The descent down Sawmill had lots of variety; some really scratchy shrubs up high, nice mature ponderosa pine forests, and a dense thicket of young pines that will probably have to be thinned out at some point. The spring was flowing, with a nice clear pool, so I mixed up more electrolyte drink and grabbed an extra bag of water just in case. Below the spring, Sawmill Canyon had water off and on all the way down to the road.

The forest road section (which happens to be part of the Old Pueblo 50 course) was a little miserable. Cloud cover was increasing, and it alternated between hot and exposed, and nice and cool, based on whether there was a cloud overhead. When we got down to the main road, the crossing at Cave Creek was dry, so grabbing extra water at the spring turned out to be a good decision. A couple miles up the road, the creek had water.

Cave Creek trail was fairly enjoyable, with the lower section along the creek being at a very reasonable grade. We stopped for one last water fill about a quarter mile before the wilderness boundary - and at the wilderness boundary the creek had dried up again.

Around this time, we heard the first thunder, with one flash of lightning being probably within a mile. The rest of the way up to Florida Saddle there was occasional thunder - nothing close, but enough to motivate me to get up and over as fast as possible. In retrospect, the storm clouds provided some much needed coolth and even saved me up to half an hour!

The run back down to the TH was a nice cruise; either I had some adrenaline left from the lightning, or actually taking in enough electrolytes had an impact... Managed to get down from Florida Saddle in about 55 minutes.

Good day overall, but I don't know if I'd do this loop again, just because of the forest road section...

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Plenty of water in the creek at the end of the Jeep road.

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Hard to tell how much the actual spring has; flow could be heard in the creek from the trail. There is a pipe crossing the trail that is dripping.

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Good water about a mile before the end of the road. Couple of dry stretches along the trail, but mostly flowing almost to the wilderness boundary.

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Decent flow, nice clear water in the pool.
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As the effort to find trails where people ain't continues, I headed to the east side of the Santa Ritas. I was very pleased with the Cave Canyon Trail. The Crest Trail and I are old friends, so no discovering happening there; but it was time to find some snow. The Gardner Canyon Trail was admittedly nothing special, except for some very charming streams. It was also nice to bag a new peak: Florida Peak.
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Wrightson-Florida Peak loop, AZ 
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Matt suggested an alternate route to Wrightson, and it was mostly new territory for me, so I was interested. The road in was not too bad, lots of washboard, but generally in good shape. We got started on the Link Trail by around 0745 and quickly started gaining elevation. After about a half mile of Link, we got onto Gardner Canyon Trail and continued the climb. The trail is mostly in decent shape, and easy to follow, but overgrown in some places. Not much shade, but we were early enough in the morning to where it wasn't hot yet.

Once at Super Trail, we headed north and took a short break before heading up to Baldy Saddle. From there, we headed up to Wrightson. We saw 6 hikers between the saddle and summit--the only people we saw all day. Windy at the summit, so we only stayed for a few minutes. High clouds were moving in from the south, offering some welcome shade.

Once back down at the saddle, we continued north on the Crest Trail. Side to Mt Ian, or something near Mt Ian, as I am not sure we made it to the true summit. There seemed to be 3 high points, and we went to the 2 southern ones, but I have a feeling the high point to the north may have been the real summit. Close enough in this case. Continuing north on Crest, it was nice walking through the pines for short stretches.

At Florida Saddle, we headed east on Sawmill towards Florida Peak. The trail is very overgrown and brushy. As we neared the peak, we left the trail and headed up the west side of the peak. Fairly easy off trail hiking, mostly a matter of avoiding manzanita. Views from the summit were limited, but there were rocks to sit on for a snack break. Lots of ladybugs up there. On the way back down, we spotted a bear below us, but my attempt at a picture was a blurry mess. It sauntered off into the trees, not to be seen again.

Once back down at the saddle, we headed down Cave Canyon Trail, which is a gem of a trail. Narrow, but easy to follow, and pleasant scenery the entire way. The creek had water in the lower sections. Parts of this trail reminded me of Miller Canyon in the Huachucas. If I lived in this area, I'd probably spend a lot of time on this trail. Good way to finish out the hike.

Great loop on some lesser used trails. Good to hike with Matt again, and good conversation. Perfect weather for the entire day. It's about a 3 hour drive from Ahwatukee, but well worth it for this loop. Stats are averaged between my Route Scout, my Garmin, and Matt's watch.
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A couple of weeks past prime, but Cave Canyon trail was probably very colorful a few weeks ago.
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Nov 17 2019
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A few weeks back I tossed the idea to Linda to do this little loop, which would knock a few trails and peaks off of both of our lists and she liked the idea, so we set it up. I've wanted to get over to this side of the Santa Ritas for quite a long while, but even for a Tucsonan, it's a drive, so I really was happy that Linda was willing to make the trip down.

We got an early start, but ended up stuck behind a Wide Load on the Sonoita Hwy, so that kinda washed out, but we ended up starting about 07:45.

We headed up the Gardner trail, getting the sunny section out of the way early, so that Linda didn't have to use the 'H' word. This seems to have been a good choice, as we made good time and were topping out at Wrightson before we knew it (or at least it seemed like it). From there, we could see the rest of our elevation gain just across Baldy Saddle, and were not intimidated by it in the least, so we headed off to confront it. The trip across the Crest was beautiful and I spent some time to really orient myself as opposed to just charging through. I must say, there's a lot to take in. We got off track a little when trying to tag Mt Ian (or so we think), but eventually got our act together and headed on. Next stop, Florida Peak, this time with no trouble, except for the ladybug infestation during our break at the summit. From here it would all be downhill, and that's obviously what the bear thought too. Oh, did I mention that we saw a bear on the Sawmill Trail? Well we did. While Linda may have nailed a pic of it, mine turned out looking like the Loch Ness Monster dancing with Bigfoot. Moving along, we finished out the best section of the hike heading down the Cave Canyon. This section is as nicely groomed as any in southern AZ, easy to follow and with little dead fall (we had expected much worse). The canopy has a nice balance of tree to sky, while having a very open feel to it. The canyon bottom is wide compared to most canyon trails I'm used to. It had sort of a meadowy effect, and actually offered a number of level camp spots and a meandering stream bed. As you might expect, the nicest section came to an end too quickly. Really, the whole trip ended too quickly. The drive considered, this was a great hike with diverse terrain, and Linda is a blast to hike with, so it could have gone on longer as far as I'm concerned (but I didn't have to drive back to Phoenix).

Another great loop, over a few new trails = another great day outside.

Thanks for driving down Linda!
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Great hike! Never been on sawmill before. Took it up to Florida peak. Saw an Elegant trogon on the way down.
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Hike up to Florida Peak.
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 Tucson, AZ
Greaterville and East Sawmill canyon trails, AZ 
Greaterville and East Sawmill canyon trails, AZ
 
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GrottoGirlTriplogs 1,634
Hiking10.48 Miles 3,258 AEG
Hiking10.48 Miles   4 Hrs   45 Mns   2.22 mph
3,258 ft AEG      2 Mns Break
 
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I loved this hike. The first part was a full of oaks and juniper. Then as I got into East Sawmill canyon, the vegetation added some Pinyons and Ponderosa Pines. The creek was flowing due to the snow above and was peaceful as it traveled downstream. What a wonderful hike! As the day progressed the winds picked up. After Sawmill Spring the burn area was evident. Lots of newer pine growth, downfall, etc. The trail was well maintained until it was wasn't. Then the buckthorn took over the trail and there was downfall across. It still wasn't *that* bad so I continued. Once I hit the Crest the wind nearly took me out. I continued to try to bushwack to Florida Peak but the wind gusts were crazy and after I got to the first little peak I decided it wasn't a good idea to continue because I could see dark clouds over Old Baldy. So I retreated as quickly as I could.
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Jan 05 2017
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 Tucson, Arizona
Greaterville and Sawmill Canyon Trails, AZ 
Greaterville and Sawmill Canyon Trails, AZ
 
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markthurman53Triplogs 864
Hiking11.20 Miles 3,598 AEG
Hiking11.20 Miles   6 Hrs      2.24 mph
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The Sawmill Canyon Trail is like, any trail that has to climb 2200 feet in 3 miles very steep. Trails are in good condition and being January water was not an issue. Snow was on the trail of North facing slopes up near Florida Peak. The forest is recovering nicely from a fire some years back (not sure when). The road to Melendrez Pass is in good condition and does not require 4WD.
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May 25 2016
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Florida Peak, AZ 
Florida Peak, AZ
 
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AZHiker456Triplogs 188
Hiking11.70 Miles 3,936 AEG
Hiking11.70 Miles   4 Hrs   54 Mns   2.62 mph
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I decided to knock off one of the last few Santa Rita bucket listers on the Madera side of the mountain. While the figure-eightish loop style route I opted for undoubtedly scores high in the creatively department, there are definitely some enhancements I would’ve implemented, had it not been a workday:

-check out some of the nearby mines listed on the topo, which include: the Old Madera Mine and the Lucky Ledge Mine
-pay 2nd visits to: McCleary Peak, 88 Mac, and/or that other big UN peak by Pine Saddle in the direction of Mt. Ian
-continue down the East Sawmill Canyon Trail #146
-continue down the SWEET looking ridgeline that leads down from the smaller prominent point on Florida Peak

If it weren’t a workday, I probably would’ve tackled Florida Peak by way of the Florida Canyon Trail #145… and then ended up riding out that SWEET ridgeline, which extends from the lower prominent point [8142’] of Florida Peak down to UN 7397’; and then exiting the ridgeline such that I’d hit up the Florida Mine site before finally looping around to connect back with the Florida Canyon trail. That would make for one fun loop… and from what I saw, it was extremely well routed… so very tempting! If my vehicle weren’t parked up at Madera, I totally would’ve gone for it.

I also want to check out the East Sawmill Canyon Trail #146. I’ve been told from reliable sources that this trail has been abandoned and is badly overgrown; [and the handful of HAZ reports on this trail hikearizona.com/x.p ... ID=0 seem to confirm what I was told]. However, the short part of it that I traversed en route to Florida Peak was in very good condition, [better than parts of the much more popular 4Springs Trail]. Mind you, I was on the East Sawmill Canyon Trail for only a very short distance; I cannot speak for the rest of it…

And finally, if anyone reads this and is planning to bag Florida Peak, it needs another jar/container for the log book. The old glass container shattered as I had carefully started to remove the rocks that it was resting under. I felt terrible but I definitely think the jar was ready to go… [kind of like when one person is trying for several minutes to unscrew a lid and can’t get it, and then gives it to someone else who barely uses any force before they’re able to unscrew it]. Luckily, I had a heavier duty, Ziploc plastic bag in my hiking pack to keep some of my belongings organized. I removed my belongings, and then took the summit log, along with the few loose papers and pencils, and secured them in the bag; then ziplocked it shut and carefully put it under the rock pile in the same location where the jar had been.
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A few things here and there... what stood out the most were some NICE patches of yellow Columbine along the creek, in-between Kent & Sylvester Springs.

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Armour Spring Dripping Dripping
Almost nothing; but in a survival situation, you could definitely get something out of the small puddle!

dry Kent Spring Dry Dry
Bone dry... but the creek that is a few feet away had some nice light flow that could totally be filtered!

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Sylvester Spring Gallon + per minute Gallon + per minute
These ratings are hard to apply to the enclosed concrete springs... I gave it the best rating cuz the concrete tank was literally filled to the brim and overflowing. There were bugs on the bottom, but for the concrete springs in the Santa Ritas, this was one of the best [clearest] I've ever seen it. If you have a filter, this would be an awesome water source.
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Oct 19 2014
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 Tucson
East Sawmill Canyon Trail #146Tucson, AZ
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waterdogTriplogs 6
Hiking4.40 Miles 2,290 AEG
Hiking4.40 Miles   5 Hrs      0.88 mph
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I set out for Florida Peak via the Greaterville Trail #79 and East Sawmill Canyon Trail #146. The weather started out sunny and 58F. Thunderstorms dropped rain in the mid afternoon. Travel time listed is the round trip time for the Sawmill Canyon Trail portion of the hike only.

I joined the Sawmill Canyon Trail at the Greaterville Trail junction and proceeded west toward Florida Saddle. The trail is overgrown with vegetation in the lower elevations. The trail is relatively easy to find up to Sawmill Spring. Above Sawmill Spring the trail is difficult to find in places and completely obliterated in others. I counted exactly one hundred downed trees blocking the Sawmill Canyon Trail between the Greaterville Trail junction and the turnoff to Florida Peak. More than eighty of these tree falls are above Sawmill Spring where the effects of the Florida Fire were more intense. In a couple spots massive tree falls have all but erased the trail at key switchback corners leading to quite a bit of bushwhacking to regain the trail. I managed to lose the trail both ascending and descending. An earlier hiker had placed cairns in helpful locations. I added a few as well.

The off-trail ascent to Florida Peak is short and not too difficult. Florida Peak is a double peak with the taller to the south and a rocky, shorter peak to the north. The southern peak offers good views of the Santa Rita crest and views to the north and south. The view eastward is blocked by vegetation. I hiked to the top of the southern peak and then set out for the northern peak. This peak was ringed with gambel oak re-sprouts and I didn't feel like fighting my way through the rocks and thickets so I skipped the northern peak and returned to the trail for the descent.

The sycamores and Arizona walnuts are in full color. There was water in the creek for about a mile below Sawmill Spring.
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Sycamore and Arizona walnuts in full color.
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Oct 12 2008
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East Sawmill Canyon Trail #146Tucson, AZ
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JeffshadowsTriplogs 169
Hiking9.10 Miles 3,108 AEG
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Have you ever had one of those trips where you get home and say: "I never should have left the house today?" Needless to say, the Sawmill Canyon trail has never recovered from the Florida fire. It looks like the Forest Service isn't all that concerned about this state of affairs, either. If anyone is looking to hit Florida Saddle from east/northeast - save yourself a lot of unnecessary torment and go to Cave Creek, instead.

The Coronado NF website says that you need a high-clearance vehicle and 4WD to get to the trail head at Aliso Spring down FSR 4084. Let's just say that may have been the case the last time any of their staff members went back there; now, it's a full-on, rated VI OHV trail. Anyone reading this and planning a trip to Sawmill or Greaterville should abandon any ideas about taking a stock SUV back to the trail head, regardless of your experience level. There are simply no lines to choose or negotiate. I had to build lines up a terrace before giving up and finally walking into the trail adding five miles to my journey.

The trail was promising at first, judging by the conditions at Aliso Spring. That promise faded quickly when I started up the west ridge and realized that the trail is *completely* unmaintained. It's overgrown by waist-high grass for the next mile concealing fist-sized rocks just waiting to trip you and roll your ankle. Every shrub and tree near the trail has conspired to obscure its course, and dead-fall is abundant. Things got a little better as I approached the Spring, but rapidly deteriorated after departing the Spring area. Enough was enough and I abandoned my bid for Florida Saddle before being completely eviscerated by catclaw.

To add insult to injury, the signage on FSR 4084 leaves a lot to be desired. The route of the road continues into FSR 4085 and the sign at the junction says "Gardner Canyon" and "Sawmill Canyon." This can lead one to assume that the "Gardner" on the sign is the canyon itself, not the road by the same name one needs to leave the area. Hey, what's another four or so miles of class VI tierod/draglink-bending gut-wrench in the wrong direction, right? :?

The day's saving grace was the wildlife. I encountered two big packs of mule deer, a small gaggle of wild turkey, squirrels galore, and one coati...and not one snake. :)
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