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It was incredibly smoky in the lower Verde River Valley, which obscured much of the view to the east. I'd guess this is because of the Horse, Peak and Wolf Fire's smoke settling overnight. Surprisingly, it didn't feel hot once in the sun at Bell Pass, so adding on the two peaks to the loop was easy-peasy with the breezes. It's ridiculous that McDowell Peak has been culture cancelled considering that there's an ammo box up there with a bunch of admitted lawbreakers signed in. Cool stories bros! Why not commit a felony so one of you could be elected president and pardon the others?! :lol:
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:lol: That was a barn burner! :) I've been thinking about this hike for a few years and finally completed it in the rain today. I'll admit that thesnake lit a fire underneath me to get it done. Thanks for the TL @thesnakefromthelemma. I completed it the easier direction though, so I'll have to go back and hike it south to north like he did. One thing this hike reminded me of was that Sunrise is a really wimpy peak compared to the rest of the McDowell Mountain range. : wink : Much of this route also was familiar to the Torote Loops in the Sierra Estrella range. Could be a five star route except for all those god-damned jets overhead constantly!
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A tour of the main peaks of the park.

Despite having family just walking distance from the Preserve, I had yet to wander much farther north than Sunrise. That said, I had wanted to check out Thompson's Peak for some time and although I would have preferred a better weather window (temps in the valley peaked somewhere in the low 30s C), I was leaving town the following day. I didn't worry too much about working out an exact route in advance, resting assured that the scrambling and routefinding wouldn't be too bad thanks to a trip report of Stav.

Still sore and lazy from hiking in the Superstitions two days earlier, I pulled up to the Sunrise trailhead well after sunrise (~08:30 to be exact) with the intent of following the evident ridgeline from just north of Sunrise Peak all to Bell's Pass, from there excursing to McDowell Peak and Drinkwater Peak should sufficient time and enthusiasm remain. This was in hindsight a fairly late start for the hike that I had in mind—and a very late start for the hike that I actually ended up doing—but the many well-marked exits in the vicinity gave me the confidence to keep pushing north.

The first leg of the trip was routine. I accessed Sunrise Peak via Sunrise trail, subsequently continuing north along the Andrews-Kinsey trail. As usual, I encountered several other hikers on my way up, both ascending and descending. At ~09:30 I met one last hiker heading south on A-K, after which I saw no one else, not even from a distance, until dusk (~18:00).

After heading north some ~6km on the A-K trail, I reached a saddle of the aforementioned ridgeline, just below 900m in elevation. There I ditched the trail for the ridgeline, trekking directly up the moderately steep incline, aided by the many mostly-stable boulders which afforded great traction and ample handholds. A while of this got me to "Peak 3585", and a bit of descent followed by more of the same led to Peak 3805. Intriguingly, there were not only a couple of large cairns at the summit but even a faint social trail leading down the ridgeline toward the saddle between Peaks 3805 and 3702. The terrain on this entire portion of the trip was excellent; there was little scree, few moving rocks, and for the most part only a moderate amount of brush.

Having reached this saddle, the next item on the agenda was to summit Peak 3702, a.k.a. "Doubletop". It was apparent looking ahead that the routefinding would not be quite as trivial as it had been earlier in the day. Moreover, the uniquely rhyolitic surface composition of 3702, responsible for its strikingly pale and rugged appearance when viewed from afar, made for a smoother and more fragmented substrate and consequently a more haphazard scramble upwards. Even so, the straightforward route up (i.e., dodging any sheer surfaces to the east, but otherwise gaining as much elevation as possible) worked like a charm, and it wasn't long before I found myself at the two summits, the lesser of which was marked by a single lamp head(?) wedged into some rocks to point toward the sky. The route down was similar, though where it was hard to judge from above the feasibility of scrambling down a vertical drop, I simply descended west and (if necessary) south, eventually finding myself on a well-worn social trail leading to a pullout on Thompson's Peak Road.

I then followed the road to the peak, marveling that any vehicle could safely traverse even the paved portion given its near-100% grade. It was nice to finally see the radio towers in person, but I didn't dwell long—I wanted to be back at my vehicle well before sunset (lol) and it was already 12:48. Instead, I immediately began the tedious but mostly uneventful descent to Bell's Pass, which included ascending and descending landmark 3515. (Which, I confess, I had initially mistaken for a shadow.) Though occasional winds had done a decent job of tempering the midday heat, I was really beginning to feel it, and decided to postpone any final decision on pushing onward to McDowell Peak until after I had reached Bell's Pass. I arrived there ~14:00.

After taking a few minutes' break, I felt decent enough to attempt to make it to the Peak. The route up proved to be nothing unusual given what had preceded it, a pleasant surprise given its apparent relative steepness on the topo. I was a little surprised by the lack of any survey marker (though there was a solar-powered emergency call station), but I figured that I'd have plenty of time to search for it when I returned from the short traverse over to Drinkwater Peak (3914). Well, at least I intended that the traverse be short—in fact, it ate up a surprising amount of crucial time given the two peaks' apparent proximity and while the views of Scottsdale were certainly better than those from McDowell, they were nothing special compared to those from the days' other peaks.

While resting and Googling the summit marker issue on Drinkwater, I learned to my horror that McDowell Peak, despite its name, was *not* the high point of the range. Rather East End, still some several kms to the north, was. To call this a huge bummer would be a massive understatement; the whole point of this trip was to complete a "McDowell Ridgeline", bagging all the major peaks of interest in the process, and yet here I was omitting the most significant one. I stewed over this failure all the way along the traverse back to McDowell Peak, reaching it at ~15:50. The rational decision would have of course been to call it a day then, hoping to make it back to my car before sunset. At the last moment, however, I made the decision to descend McDowell Peak north instead of south, postponing any irreversible decision on whether to complete the full ridgeline until my reaching Windgate Pass.

Thus I began the trudge down to the Pass, which at first involved some mild downclimbing but quickly resolved to a stroll down a grassy slope. At one point I found myself immediately to the left of an old—but intact—wire fence which I followed it down to the Pass, reaching it at ~16:40. From there I took a short rest, gathering up the courage to commit to the full ridgeline. Shortly after, I continued up to the Lookout, this time on the right side of the continuation of that same fence I had followed earlier. I had worried initially about the apparently steeper grade and looser substrate (judging from a distance) of this ascent relative to those of the previous peaks, but the route that I had scouted from McDowell Peak (following the evident wash above and to the west, traversing it at the last possible moment, and then emerging on a relatively grassy slope leading up to the Lookout) went without a hitch. There was some slickrock in the wash, but nothing particularly noteworthy. I was a little surprised to see a cairn near the top of this stretch—evidently the route that I had found wasn't as original as I had imagined.

At the lookout, I paused to take another break, really regretting not packing extra food. Indeed, I had exhausted the last of what I had brought all the way back on McDowell Peak, not anticipating the long day that it had turned out to be. I decided to watch the sunset from the Lookout (at 17:30 almost on the dot), and then quickly made my way along the Lookout trail to the junction with Tom's Thumb trail.

This I reached about 18:00, and there was just enough light out for me to begin ascending East End peak. I had read on HAZ that there was a spur trail leading to it, but I had wrongly assumed that it was like the faint social trails that I had encountered earlier in the day. Moreover, the evident gully strewn with large blocks of granite appeared quite difficult to penetrate from the south below, so I instead opted to forge my own way directly up to the peak instead of bothering to find the spur trail. This led to some confusing backtracking and squeezing through cracks, but I eventually made it to the summit (~18:30) just as the last of twilight was fading. It was only when I passed the solar panel installation that it became just how well-worn the spur trail that I had not bothered to look for was. At least the descent back to Tom's Thumb trail was easy.

The descent via Tom's Thumb trail to Tom's Thumb trailhead was likewise straightforward, and I was on the way back to where I was staying by ~19:00.

I'm glad that I managed to hit all the highlights of the Preserve, even if the views I enjoyed from East End would have been much nicer with the sun still out. No doubt this hike could be made substantially more enjoyable with proper planning in advance. On balance, however, I'm quite content with how things turned out.
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I followed trekking_gecko's route from 2014. It takes you right where you need to be! I did McDowell Peak 2 years ago but wanted to venture out to Drinkwater this time. I'm glad I did! The trek up to McDowell AND across the ridge to Drinkwater was entertaining, shall we say, but was very brushy and that made the journey more difficult than expected.
The climb up to McDowell is steep, you will climb over loose boulders and a lot of scree in certain spots. As you near McDowell and then start heading over to Drinkwater, the loose boulders and scree are hidden by all that overgrown brush so it was a bit of a slower go for me.
By the time I was descending, my legs were raw and I pulled about 20 needles out of one leg, a jumping cholla out of the other and somehow managed to step on several at once that penetrated my hiking boot! That hurt like a mother and took some time to dig out!
The day heated up quickly so I didn't hang out too long but I sure enjoyed my time up there!
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We had a great time exploring both McDowell Peak and Drinkwater Peak, but took a novel approach. We left one vehicle at Gateway Trailhead in Scottsdale, then drove into Fountain Hills to the Dixie Mine Trail. We followed the trail, then the service road, where we intersected with and continued along Prospector Trail, heading up toward McDowell Peak along Bell Pass Trail about one mile ahead. The area is well signed, and the path easily followed. From the high point along Bell Pass (3200'), we headed up 800' to the summit, then made our way across a 0.4 mile stretch to Drinkwater Peak, then bushwhacked 1200' down to the Wingate Trail, which took us back to the parking lot. Great stuff! The only fly in the ointment was an incredibly tedious trek between the two peaks, which was essentially a granite boulder crawl.
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Oh, this one has been on the to do list for quite a while. My wife had something going with the kids this morning, so this gave me a chance for the rare Saturday hike. I got over to the 104th street trailhead about 7:20 to start off for the day. I usually like using the smaller lot so I can avoid the Gateway crowd as much as possible...Uneventful trip to Bell Pass, made it there in 1:09 without any breaks, I am pretty happy with that. Here is where the trip started getting interesting. I basically followed Trekkin' Gecko's track up the east side of McDowell. The scramble was better than I anticipated, there are lots of things to poke you, but the footing is pretty stable all considered. The genus Cylindropuntia (Chollas) is well represented out here for sure...Topped out on McDowell and started the traverse to Drinkwater. I stayed on the ridgeline and had no problem making my way across, if you have done Camelback from the Cholla side this is no big deal. I took a break on Drinkwater to enjoy the views, and then started my way back around. Instead of summiting McDowell again I thought I would skirt around the west and south face, pretty sure this did not speed the process and might have taken longer in retrospect. Found my line to head back down to the Pass again and then hightailed it to the truck. Brought 3 liters and ran dry right as I got on the Levee trail fro the return, plenty of water back at the truck. I have now officially climbed all 5 of the bigger peaks in the MSP, woo hoo. Great hike!

P.S., Has anyone ever seen the purported bicycle patrol threatening to ticked off-trail hikers in the MSP? I have hiked out there at least a dozen times (both on and off trail) and have never seen these guys. Has anyone else???
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This has been on my list for quite awhile and with the way the weather was today I thought it would be a great day to do it. Got to the TH and realized that my Garmin was dead and so had to find an open gas station to buy batteries. :tt: Twenty minutes later I was on the trail.

Started for the 104 St. Trail around 6am. I had my headlamp, but almost felt that I didn't need it. The fog was kind of heavy and with the golf tournament being lighted up like a Christmas tree down the street, there was a light glow that carried into the park. Kept the headlamp onto till about 6:30 and by then there was enough predawn light to navigate safely. I took 104th St. To the Gateway Trail and that to the Bell Pass Trail. Near the saddle I stopped to take some pictures of the fog layering the valley. I felt like I was hiking above the clouds. From there I worked my up the side of the mountain to hit McDowell. From there took the ridge line over to Drinkwater Peak. (First time visitor, long time fan). Went down the south side of Drinkwater. Very cool. Near the bottom the fogged rolled in again to add a very special feeling to the hike. Didn't see anyone out there until I reconnected to the Gateway, which had heavy use. Saw 1 doe in the distance.
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Kelly texted just as I was leaving for S Mnt. McDowell and Drinkwater sounded a little more interesting than what I had planned, so I was in. We met at Gateway trailhead and were off. I had Haz Tracks going on my phone. I like the announcements every mile of distance, time and aeg. Going up Mcdowell and across to Drinkwater is always a challenge, but nothing too extreme. Almost cold up top with the cool temps and strong breeze. Fun hike.

Thanks for the invite gekkin trecko! :)
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today's criteria:
a peak (or two)
2300 aeg to hit 20k for november
close enough or short enough to watch football at 2:00
mcdowell and drinkwater certainly fit the above
texted john at the last minute and he was able to change his south mountain plan and join me
thought gateway would be crowded, but it wasn't
gateway loop, bell pass to the saddle
off trail up to mcdowell and then across the ridge to drinkwater
this hike is not an easy one
don't think i've taken the same line up mcdowell in the five times i've done it
the ascent isn't that hard, but there are cactus, loose rock and sticker bushes to avoid
nice views from the top
didn't stay long, but headed down the ridgeline between mcdowell and drinkwater
i find this part more challenging, although i do enjoy it; i'm just slow
john is much faster at it
the ridgeline is the best path, as dropping down is too brushy
some scrambling over loose boulders at times
don't think many get over to drinkwater, which is part of the appeal
looked around there and discussed an alternate return but decided to go back over mcdowell
the ridgeline seemed easier this time and we took a better line down from mcdowell
bell pass seemed like a superhighway after that
saw a few more people coming down
i lost a bet that we would see someone we knew
temps were very nice - a little windy up top
a few minor slices from brush but no cactus
these were my 51st and 52nd peaks this year, which was a goal for 2014
will probably get a couple more yet
these peaks were a lot more fun having good company
thanks for joining me, john
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Denny hadn't been to Drinkwater Peak before so I volunteered to play tour guide. We made good time hiking up to Bell Pass and McDowell Mnt, seeing a group of seven deer along the way. When I reached the saddle just before the McDowell summit I looked up to see a huge Mule deer buck staring at me from maybe 30 or 40 ft away. :o By the time I got my camera out he had retreated a ways. He was with three does bringing then total to eleven deer seen. :)

The ridgline over to Drinkwater from McDowell isn't difficult but is slow going as are most ridgelines. We decided to bushwhack to the NE instead of returning the way we came. We went down through a couple washes eventually coming out on the Windgate trail.

On the way back we took the Desert Park trail through many huge homes, then took the Horseshoe trail to the Suguaro Loop trail and back to the Gateway TH on the Saguaro trail. Fun Day. Thanks for driving and the great company Denny! :)
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John(The Deer Whisperer) said he would take me up to Drinkwater Peak. We went from Gateway to Bell Pass to McDowell to Drinkwater. At the saddle between the two Peaks John was hanging out with a 4Point Mule Deer :o . From there it was a blur but we did end up back at the car.
Thanks for the tour, John. :y:
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angela had a monday off, so we picked this day to hit a couple of peaks on her wish list
gateway loop to bell pass trail
at the saddle, went up to mcdowell, then across the ridge to drinkwater
spent a few minutes on mcdowell
took a lunch break on drinkwater
the peaks aren't all that, but the views of the surrounding area are excellent
some low clouds across the estrellas and superstitions, and plenty of haze over the valley
we weren't really looking forward to retracing our path, so we eyed the drop toward the west and decided it looked doable
went down the soutwest face of drinkwater and then down the main drainage you can see on the topo and on angela's gps track
cut over to gateway loop and finished on the trail
a little rough, steep and full of cactus, but little scree and plenty of rock to step on
i've dropped off the north side, and this was much better
found quite a few remnants of an airplane crash
have to give angela a lot of credit for her sense of adventure on this one
good weather for it and a fun day
thanks angela, and congrats on getting these two peaks!
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guess who bagged these Peaks, guess?! Yep, as Nick said so eloquently:
way to tibbernate the mcdowells : app : :gun: :y:
Why is it a big deal? Cuz I look at those every day I drive to work; those and Thompson Peak. They're all done now :) .

Kelly knew I wanted to get these so I begged her, though it took very little whining, to get me up them. I had extra time off to burn this year so I picked some Mondays which work best for her. We met at the Gateway TH and started out on a brisk morning up toward Bell Pass. She was walking a pretty fast pace on this, at least for me, but I did my best to keep up. But then we reach the area where you gotta start hiking UPward and she put me in the lead :o . So I got my poles out and did my best to keep moving UPward as quick as I could.

We got to the Pass in an hour 30. I'm sure that broke my limited records on this, ha! We took a 10 min fuel break and looked around. The inversion layer was pretty thick both toward the Supes and Estrellas. Five 1/2 mins later and before heading toward the UP portion of McDowell Peak, we snapped some pictures. Ten minutes later we made it to the top of the first ridge area and took some more photos toward the Supes as the Fountain was also going off. The inversion layer was very white as it dissected the Supes including Weavers and the Flatiron.

Yep, and then it was up : rambo : again as we had to get over 3 humps before reaching the Summit. We maneuvered around cactus and rock outcroppings for 45 minutes during which time we saw that white pole so the task seemed a little closer to being accomplished. Kelly deftly guided us up. At times I would look to see if there were a better way but usually ended up following in her footsteps. It was good to finally get there :DANCE: , McDowell Peak. The views were outstanding.

For some reason, I didn't think the traverse over to Drinkwater was supposed to be difficult... until I saw it (where is the passing out emoticon?). Kelly said it was only .4 but it looked much further and much rockier, BIG rockier. Five minutes later off we went, down to the ridge and then up, down around bouldery sections, way too many it seemed. Fortunately there were a couple sections where the rocks were incredibly beautiful. In fact, they would make the perfect countertop for my kitchen ;) .

You really didn't have much choice on a lot of this as you had to go up and over. There were patches of dirt here and there but limited. And sometimes the rocks were wobbly but the hike must go on and on for another 45 minutes to reach Drinkwater's Summit. At last :y: and what a relief. We had perfect weather for this whole hike including on the Summits. Once again, the view was stupendous. Pinnacle Peak seemed so small and dainty.

I didn't realize we spent nearly 35 minutes enjoying the views and lunch.
ADDITION: Forgot to mention that we could see clear to the Verde Rim as well as the Sonoran Preserve's Brown, Cholla and Granite Mountains.
I called my boss since I work at 104th St and Bell. You can see these Peaks from our office. We definitely earned the long break and it's a good thing it was lengthy since we decided to head straight over the southwestern side of the Peak rather than go back the way we came.

Before heading down the route we had been analyzing while on top, we took a detour as I had spotted some wire and wanted to check it out. We found a bunch more and a downed tall fence post. After that, we veered west for a bit before heading down a drainage to get to a drainage. Pretty soon we both started discovered odd things and soon realized we had stumbled on to a crash site. I had remembered a plane crash but I thot it was Thompson Peak. Nonetheless, we were pretty impressed by our find. There were so many little parts here and there and even some bigger parts. Here is info about the 2003 Piper Aerostar crash (sorry to say 2 people perished): http://planecrashmap.com/plane/az/N3636Q/

Getting down this drainage required some maneuvering once again but Kelly has a knack for it and other than being chollaed a couple times and having to get over some big rocks, we continued down and down until we finally hit the west drainage. And the fun wasn't over yet :sweat: as we still had a bit to go before we could get out of this area. However, it was more kind to us than the south drainage. It had some interesting areas as we encountered some Ironwood trees, little caves and some cool cut outs along the mountain side.

Our goal of course was the Gateway Trail. As we got closer to the drainage widening out and the area where we could get out, I realized if you follow the drainage it would take you right to the trail. However, Kelly and I decided to pop out as we were quite tired of drainages at this point. When Kelly got to the top of the side, she saw the Saddle area :) so off we went, veering slightly north to intersect with the trail. We were happy, happy to finally get to a nice smooth trail. So from the Summit to climbing out of the last drainage it took us slightly more than an hour and 1/2.

Still hard to believe but the task is finally complete! Thank you Kelly, I couldn't imagine accomplishing this without your guidance, perseverance and support. I am so happy :y: . And believe it or not, NO video. Don't everyone pass out now. The conditions were just too difficult for filming.
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Oct 20 2013
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John9LTriplogs 1,647
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Quick morning hike. This was my first trip to McDowell & Drinkwater Peaks. Both are fairly easy to access. My favorite part of the hike was the section between the two peaks. Some easy rock hopping and scrambling is required as I traversed between the two. The rest of the hike was uneventful and rather boring. I finished well before noon.
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May 28 2013
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trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
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mcdowell and drinkwater have been on my list all spring
these are two more peaks that should be done on a yearly basis
got going about 7:15 on a cool enough morning
same high cloud cover at times that we've had all weekend
gateway loop, bell pass to the saddle, up the ridge to mcdowell, across a ridge to drinkwater
back the same way
gave some thought to completing gateway loop on the return, but that idea died at thought stage
the climb up to mcdowell is a grind through scree, loose rock and cactus
just takes time
the traverse to drinkwater features some scrambling and a little bushwhacking in addition to the above
spent a few minutes on drinkwater looking around and took a few pictures, mostly for evidence of being up there
didn't see any sign of a summit register or benchmarks on either peak
headed back to mcdowell and spent a few minutes there, too
was least looking forward to the slide down mcdowell, but it wasn't nearly as bad as i remembered it, maybe because i've done more off trail since then
back down the trails from there
about halfway between peaks i swore i would never do this hike again, but since the return wasn't that bad, i've changed my mind
probably won't have a good day for it for a few months
there are still a lot of gnats up there :x
saw no one once i was off gateway loop
temps were comfortable enough, but a better breeze would have been nice
can't say this is a fun hike, but it is satisfying
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As Jack Nicholson said, in the movie "The Shining" ........
I also said to Drinkwater Peak, when I finally got up there ............ "I'm Baaaack !!!!"

If you couldn't care less about benchmarks on mountain tops, do not refer to my previous triplog on Drinkwater Pk. Boredom and glazed-over eyes will set in immediately.
Here's the link ----- http://hikearizona.com/photoset.php?ID=23604

One quote from that triplog however is
"I vow to come back and look one more time, after I do a bit more research."

Well, I did more research and I did come back. And - I did have success. :) :)
(WOW - I sound quite dramatic - after all it was just a hike. ;) )

I first searched for the missing (or not found) reference mark #2 for McDOWELL RESET Triangulation Benchmark. After receiving guidance from a more experienced benchmark hunter, and using the datasheet info, plus some logic, I successfully found exactly where Reference Mark #2 was installed by the surveyors. The actual disk is gone, but after moving some rocks and debris, I found the "bore-hole" that the surveyors drilled to place the disk, plus that bore-hole area had remnants of the cement they used to secure the disk. Good for me. That mystery is solved.

Once I got done taking about 10 photos of that tiny bore hole, using all different camera settings, I moved on to find where the actual survey benchmark disk was installed back in 1924. (In 1935, surveyors replaced the 1924 "pried-out" disk with a new one,... ergo the use of RESET)
It should be easier to locate, now that I know where both reference marks were placed, and it was easier.

After some measuring, and moving some rocks that were clandestinely hiding the actual boulder outcrop that the surveyors used for mounting, I dug a bit, brushed sand away etc, and voila - another bore hole was in sight. Obviously, that triangulation benchmark disk is also gone.
The vandals that stole the two disks must have cracked that boulder outcrop into sections to get the disk out. Gee - I hope they're proud of themselves.

Anyway, after even more photos of this bore-hole and the surrounding area, I said good-bye to Drinkwater Pk and the two bore-holes, I hiked back to McDowell Pk and said good-bye to the sole inhabitant (the solar-paneled antennae), and left the area very satisfied.
Mission accomplished.

Jack Nicholson would be proud!
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Dec 24 2012
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Gateway to Bell Pass to McDowell Peak to Drinkwater and back. Helicopter was hovering around Tom's Thumb for a long time. Saw two mule deer. Had lunch at Juan Jaime's after. Delicious. Thanks John!
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May 21 2012
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have some time off this week, so i'm hitting some of the hikes on my wish list
i've been up mcdowell peak before, and eyed the ridgeline to drinkwater
decided to try it
gateway loop to bell pass
from the saddle, up the ridge any way you can avoid the cactus
going up to mcdowell was as hard as i remembered it simply due to the terrain
took a few minutes at the peak, but forgot to look for a benchmark
the traverse over to drinkwater was actually pretty enjoyable as much of the hiking was on good rock and not loose scree
not much elevation gain or loss
looked for a benchmark but didn't find one, although i remember patrick saying there was one
i don't know what possessed me to go down north off drinkwater, but i just didn't want to go back the same way, especially the part down from mcdowell
followed a drainage somewhat and it was pretty slow going
not sure this route was any faster than an out and back
there was no possibility of getting cliffed out and i just took my time
took my trekking poles and while they were mostly extra weight, i did use them on the descent
the drainage runs into windgate, and back to gateway loop
it was fun to stand on drinkwater, as i don't think a lot of people go up there
if you're going to put in the effort to go up mcdowell, drinkwater is a relatively easy bonus
had one mishap with a rock shifting under my right foot, putting a gash in my left shin
had left my first aid kit on the counter - lesson learned; might need a checklist
a few scratches from bush-whacking but not many cactus needles this time
minimal damage
this off trail stuff is still a bit out of my comfort zone, and it always takes more time
saw maybe ten people the whole time
nice enough at 5:45 a.m., and was heading down as it started warming up

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forgot to mention that i think i saw a small grey fox in the drainage - would that be possible?
also saw several helpings of what looked to me like mountain lion scat :o (google research)
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This was an out-and-back. Bell Pass then up (cholla, cholla galore going up).
Initially to McDowell Pk, where that old emergency antennae lives, then .42 miles over the ridgeline to the other side. Four or five little peaks in between to hop over.

This hike was alot of fun, but I did not accomplish my main goal.
My main reason to hike up the McDowell Pk ridgeline was to find and document MCDOWELL RESET Triangulation Benchmark, and its two Reference Marks. I had unconfirmed information that only Reference Mark #1 remained, so I was aware I may not find anything more than RM #1.

Background info - - - Surveyors left Phoenix in 1924 and used ranch/mining roads and dim track roads to get to the area we now know as Windgate Pass Trail, and then "packed" south, up to the mountain ridgeline. I find that direction an interesting choice on their part.
Ironically, the surveyors (1924) did not put the benchmark on McDowell Pk, even though they thought that was the highest point in the McDowell Mountain chain. The surveyors "monumented" the triangulation benchmark (datasheet quote--"On westerly and lower summit of McDowell Pk, highest point in McDowell Mountains").
They called that whole little range, McDowell Pk.

We now call that "westerly lower summit", Drinkwater Pk, and we also now know that East End Pk is the highest point in the McDowells. (Not McDowell Pk)
By the way, the surveyors set no reference marks in 1924.

Surveyors went up again and checked on the Tri Mark in 1935, and found it vandalized/stolen. All that was left was the steel rod/stem in the rock outcrop, so they installed another disk and stamped it "1924-1935" and classified it a "RESET". They placed it in the exact same location. 1935 is when they set the 2 reference marks, (disks with arrows pointing to the actual survey benchmark), and stamped them 1924-1935 Ref Mark #1 (& #2)
In 1946/1947/1960/1974, surveyors reported all 3 disks in good shape.

Well, after a 2 hour search, using the Tri Mark's datasheet info, my GPS, a measuring tape, a shovel, a probe, and my common sense, I found nothing more than the already reported MCDOWELL Reference Mark #1. I have to believe, sometime between 1974 and now, the triangulation mark and ref mark #2 were vandalized and stolen. Their locations would be right on the ridge line, and easily seen by anyone hiking along this rather narrow stretch. Ref Mark #1 however is more secluded. It's lower and off the ridgeline, 55 feet away, and maybe that's why it survives.
What really surprises me is this vandalism usually doesn't happen in such a remote location. This area is not easy to get to and isn't visited very much.
I did find alot of wire, wood strips and nails strewn around, that the surveyors originally used to erect a vertical staff above the Tri Mark. That's a very normal find, however.

I vow to come back and look one more time, after I do a bit more research.
Who knows, maybe I should bring a metal detector & search further under the dirt. :) :)

One thing is for sure, the views are amazing up there, in all directions. That was worth the hike in itself.
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Started from Bell and the power lines (dirt road in 1991). Headed up to Bell pass (all off trail in 1991). From Bell pass go up to McDowell Peak then across the ridge to Drinkwater and down the South / southwest ridge and back to start.
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