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Nov 26 2023
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 Fountain Hills,
Saddle Mountain 6535 - MazatzalsPhoenix, AZ
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There are two summits on Saddle Mountain:
1) A summit to the north that is marked "6535" on topo maps. This one has the benchmark and 2 reference marks.
2) A summit to the south that does not have its elevation marked on topo maps.

If you look at a topo map the north summit is in a closed contour of 6520-6560 feet, and the south summit is in a closed contour of 6480-6520 feet. So based on the topo map, the north summit would be higher.

Based on this, I only went to the north summit when I hiked this peak back in early April of this year.

However, I subsequently found out the the topo map is missing a contour line for the south summit. This goes back to 2010 when the USGS revised their topo maps. The revised maps had a number of shortcomings, including some missing contour lines. Some color is provided in this link: http://www.cohp.org/writers/andymartin/ ... arison.txt

Here is the 2010 topo map for Saddle Mountain: [ image ]

With the extra contour line, both the north and south summits are in a closed contour of 6520-6560 feet. The north summit elevation of 6,535 feet is known, but the elevation of the south summit is not known, and the south summit might actually be higher.

Given that, I decided to head back up there and hike to the south summit, which is what I probably should have done the first time. That way, I could be assured that I tagged the Saddle Mountain highpoint.

I thought that getting to the south summit was tougher than getting to the north. There was a rocky, bouldery ridgeline to ascend that was very, very brushy. I managed to slowly make my way to the south summit -- at times I was going like zero mph.

The south summit had nicer views than the north summit, as there was no vegetation obstructing your views.

I had originally intended to return the way that I came, but after going up that ridgeline I wanted no part of going back down it. So I dropped down the saddle between the two summits, and traversed back underneath the north side of the south summit. From there I descended down to near Potato Patch before heading back to the TH.

It was a pleasant and sunny day for the hike. It was 42 degrees when I started, along with a pretty stiff breeze. The breeze died down as the day went on, and it was in the low 50's when I got back to the TH.

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I can't believe that I hiked up to Saddle Mountain for a second time, but I can unequivocally say that there won't be a third time.
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Oct 28 2023
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Mazatzal Saddle Mountain 6535 and Squaw Flat, AZ 
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We started from Mormon Grove Trailhead around 7:30AM. On the drive in, we noticed Google Maps trying to route us from FR 627 through private property on Cross F Ranch to connect with FR 25, so we had to be sure to use FR 201 to connect with FR 25. There were three trucks at the trailhead, and it was ~45° when we started but felt comfortable in the sun.

Saddle Mountain Trail was a good warmup--wide open and easy, with some interesting color and formations with the red rocks near the Little Saddle Mountain intersection. Two miles in, we turned off and visited Potato Patch, and TBoneKathy generously waited while I started up toward the peak of Saddle Mountain. It steepness isn't too bad, but the brush makes it more...interesting. I put gloves on and got the clippers out, and even leaving Potato Patch to start up the base of the mountain required pushing/cutting through extremely thick brush and catclaw, to the point that I almost abandoned the plan when I saw how long it was going to take.

But the slope looked more open up higher, and once I got through that initial wall, it did open up a little, and my pace picked up as I worked my way up toward the rocky lower peak south of Saddle Mountain, and the views improved quickly [ youtube video ] . The brush closed in again as I circled around below the south/east side of the southern peak toward the saddle. In shorts and a T-shirt, I was getting shredded by branches...they were so thick that any serious effort and cutting a path through became a waste of time, and I mostly just tried to choose the least sharp obstacles and push through it.

Closer to the saddle, I saw signs of someone else's clipping, and there was a faint and brief trail that was a welcome relief for a few minutes. Once on the saddle, there was some easy scrambling up to the peak, which was also very brushy. I found the reference markers first, but thanks to the brush, I still took a while finding the benchmark even with the help of the RM arrows. I placed a summit register in the vicinity of the benchmark and recorded some videos and snapped some pictures. There's plenty of nice scenery all around, but with all the foliage on the peak, there are few if any spots with unobstructed 360° views and not many options to sit and enjoy the surroundings.

Summit view N/E: [ youtube video ]
Summit view S/W: [ youtube video ]

Knowing how long TBoneKathy had already been waiting, I just took a sip of water and headed down the same way, picking up more scratches on the return to Potato Patch. Getting up and back down took ~ two and a half hours to cover a little under two miles. Reunited, we resumed our regularly scheduled hike on Saddle Mountain Trail with the goal of getting as close to Plateau Overlook Point as we could. With my detour up to the peak, we probably weren't going to have time to get all the way there, but being back on an open trail after the bloodshed going up and down Saddle Mountain was a relief.

We continued on Sheep Creek Trail, which became more overgrown and a little tougher to follow after the Thicket Spring intersection. We took a short break near Squaw Flat Spring, then continued onto Copper Camp Trail. The trail finally climbed up out the creek bed, and the brush and the views opened up again. We turned around ~1.5 miles as-the-crow-flies from Plateau Overlook Point, though we still had the steepest part of Copper Camp Trail head of us, but it was nice to have view of Saddle Mountain from three different sides (and up close) today.

The hike out was uneventful, and a cool breeze picked up over the last few miles. We didn't see any hikers all day, just two hunters when we were almost back to the trailhead, and not much in the way of of wildlife other than some small tarantulas. Even though we didn't make the overlook, it was a fun day--new trails for both of us, and Saddle Mountain was a fun challenge that I'll relive via cuts and scratches for many days :). I was happy to make it up there, but it's not a peak I'm anxious to revisit anytime soon...the reward:punishment ratio is pretty low.
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Apr 04 2023
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I was going to head up to Mount Ord today and drive up and down FR 27 with all of the Teslas, but I looked at the weather forecast and this seemed like a perfect day to hike up to Saddle Mountain: temperatures around 40 with 30 mph wind gusts. So I headed off to the Mormon Grove TH instead.

I had heard that this was a very brushy hike, so I encapsulated myself in body armor. When I got to the TH the temperature was 37 degrees; when I finished the hike it was 43 degrees; and the winds were as advertised. So it was a perfect day to be wearing some heavy clothes to deal with some brush.

I hiked on a nice trail for a couple of miles and then began a steep off-trail ascent to a ridgeline below the horn of Saddle Mountain. This was a steep, brushy climb, and I thought that the steepness was much worse than the brush. For the most parts, there were lanes and gaps to avoid much of the brush.

Once I got up to the ridgeline, instead of climbing up to the horn, I traversed around it. This was the brushiest part of the hike, and it was slow going while heading up hill. I took my time and eventually made it to a saddle between the horn and the highpoint. From there, it was a fairly easy ascent to the summit, although there was a bit of easy class 2 scrambling to get up top.

I stayed at the summit for a good while to enjoy the views and eat lunch. While there I located the benchmark and both reference marks.

I headed back the way that I came up until I got to the ridgeline below the horn. Then I looked and it seemed much less brushy to head down to potato patch, so that is what I did.

I had a snack at potato patch, and then headed back to the trail which I took back to the TH.

I would not want to do this hike on a warm day, and today was just about perfect.

The hike was not as onerous as I expected, but I was expecting the worst. A lot of the bushwhacking wasn't all that pleasant, but I did not think that this was a terrible hike by any means.

I have been wanting to do this hike for a while, and I am happy to get it done!
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Had a go at Saddle Mountain from the Cross F Trailhead earlier in the year and returned for a shorter version of the loop starting at Peeley TH. Sort of a Cornucopia - Thicket Spring and Saddle Mountain Mine Tour Loops combo. Rested my hopes on the sycamores along 25A, and they ended up in the neighborhood of prime. Overall there was more fall color than expected. Got going not long after sunrise and went counterclockwise.

Cornucopia through Thicket Spring not too much fall color. Most of the oaks had dropped their leaves, but in McFarland Canyon near the Sheep Creek jct there was some yellow below the pines. Ascended Sheep Creek to Saddle Mountain Trail, which is my favorite of the bunch. It provides some of the best views of Pine Butte and the Peeley - Sheep ridgeline, and this time around I was surprised by the couple pockets of maples shining bright red.

Left the trail when it seemed the route up the ridge was clear enough. There are just about no good lines through the brush up Saddle Mountain for any sustained lengths. It's one of the rougher bushwhacks, or the roughest, compared to the other summits in that part of the Mazzies, but it is a short one. I think it's overall easier than North Peak, for instance, even if the going is slower. Great views all around but the pano is probably better from the tougher, shorter, southern summit.

Breaked in Potato Patch before setting off again down 91. Saw the only person of the day before heading down to the Sunflower Mine area, a lone backpacker who I thought might be hiking the AZT until I saw him when I was driving out around the 87/Ord turn off. The Mining road that connects 91 to 25A was maintained some this winter but is already in need of some more clearing. It is easy to follow, however.

Along the 25A to Cornucopia under the yellow sycamores. Water flowing down the whole way. No idea how or why anyone drives to the end. Up Cornucopia the leaves dulled as I climbed. Made it back to the TH and it was still empty.
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Was going to start from Mormon Grove, but I'd never done Little Saddle Mountain, and it didn't seem like it'd be too much to start from the Cross F TH.

LSM Trail is burned nearly the whole way to SM Trail. Trail is typical of AZT tread and in great shape. Views open up from Saddle Mountain Trail. Took that to Potato Patch and worked my way to about half way up.

Too many unknowns for the rest of the hike and was feeling tired. Significant bushwhack to get as far as I did, seemingly more of the same to gain the summit. Nothing too crazy. Going to head back in a week or two and try again from Peeley TH.

Down to Sheep Creek with a bushwhack around Story Mine. Not worth the effort. Lots of catclaw and manzanita and little reward. Down to McFarland Canyon where some pines were spared. Nice spot down there with an open mine adit right at the jct.

Thicket Spring and West Fork up, over, and down to Cornucopia. Then roads to 25a past Cornucopia Mine, National Mine, and Sunflower Mine. Took an old two track from the Sunflower processing area where nothing remains. It has been recently maintained since the snow melt and makes for good looping options.
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Saddle Mountain 6535 - MazatzalsPhoenix, AZ
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Blanco has been sending me PMs making fun of how far ahead of me he is on stats this year so I decided I should grab some AEG with a quick trip up Mt. Ord in the morning before it got too warm out.

Out of the blue I asked Bob if he wanted to go, and I was a bit surprised to find him at the Wendys on the way there. Not 5 minutes into the drive he asked if I had ever done Saddle Mtn. Nope. It was everything I wasn't looking to do today. Not much mileage. Definitely not much aeg. And not the nice wide trail experience I was looking for.

Somehow I agreed anyway.

Let's just say that HAZ and Route Scout failed me. I tried to get a new track, and didn't spend any time actually looking at what I was downloading while driving 80-something on the beeline. A mile or two into the hike I realized that the hike called "Saddle Mountain from Mormon" didn't go anywhere close to summiting Saddle Mountain! ](*,)

Not that we couldn't have figured it out, but I like a little research on my off-trail adventures. I got a signal and managed to spy a view at JJ3 and Fliver's posted routes. That was somewhat helpful.

Takeaway. Wear pants. Much blood was drawn without them. : rambo :

I didn't have my zip bottoms with me since the Mt. Ord hike isn't really overgrown. Oh well.

The Saddle Mtn Trail #91 portion is nice. Too nice. A trail crew was out there with dustbusters making the trail smooth enough to play bocce. Seriously. Volunteer trail crews are awesome, but the folks in charge need to pick some rougher sections of trail to work on. I could have driven my truck in 2wd without pinstriping for at least 2 miles from Mormon Grove, and there were still awesome volunteers making improvements! :o

Picked a different route down and then traversed over to Potato Patch which is a pretty cool area. Definitely a less boring hike than Ord. But not really comparable either. Fun day though. Wasn't ever even on my radar!
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This haz been on my radar for several years. I heard it was nasty before the fire. I would rate it a 1.5 out of 5 on the off trail suck meter although I did have long pants. Bruno P and I attempted it a few years ago but we got snowed out.Chums wanted to hike a road and it didn't really appeal to me but I would have done it had Norge objected. Cool views of supes,3 peaks, squaw flats, and other far away areas. Mazzy 16 will probably never happen, but today, I felt like I could do any one of them separately. After hike, jumped in the pool and then took a well deserved nap.
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Saddle Mountain - Mazatzals, AZ 
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This hike was more of a test of fortitude than a hike. Half way through the hike, I started laughing out loud.
(Good thing I was alone).

Hike Positives
1 - I easily located a benchmark on the summit of Saddle Mountain.
2 - I also located two reference marks that I didn’t know existed.
3 - The hike is over.

Oh yes - another positive - I discovered that the normal clothes-washer cycle, takes soot out of hiking clothes.

Hike Negatives
1 - The off trail climb and descent was nasty, craggy, hiker-unfriendly, and absolutely full of thick vegetation on all steep sides, AND on the summit.
2 - Mixed in with all the tall, thick brush was charred brush remnants, from the Sunflower Fire of 2012 and earlier burns. (excellent to blacken all parts of your hiking costume).

Most mountains lose their “look”, the closer you get to them and Saddle Mountain is no different. Saddle Mountain is very distinctive from afar - It’s taller than the mountains around it, so it stands out in a very majestic way, what with its unique shape.
Up close - It’s not so majestic.

The trail (#91) portion of the hike was excellent. Trail #91 started life as a road and is now a very nice, wide trail.
The off trail climb, up and down, was very steep, with a bit of scree, and boulder hopping, but I assumed it would be. No surprises there.

What I wasn’t prepared for was the constant brush. I’d say the thick brush was over 95% of the off trail portion, with the actual top of the mountain totally covered with thick, 6 ft high vegetation. When I finally got up there, I actually did laugh out loud.
I felt like the mountain top was saying “Gotcha”, especially since the mountain looks so docile, and friendly from below.

As mentioned, I located the USGS benchmark “SADDLE” (1963). I located both reference marks first, then followed their arrows to the ‘brush hiding’ BM. All three disks are in excellent shape.

I unsuccessfully looked for a summit log on the ‘horn’ of the saddle and on the actual high point. I don’t think this summit gets alot of action, and I believe only a few HAZ members have made the fun journey to the top.

I stayed on top for quite a long time, after I took photos of the benchmark etc. I found a large boulder near the saddle, and had lunch.
I eventually stopped laughing at the mountain, and I finally got rid of my ‘mountain-malice’.

My choice of routes up and down were a ‘coin toss’. Looking back now, I don’t believe there’s a clear way up to the top that would be better. Give it a try and let me know.
Dress accordingly - Try to fully encapsulate your body.

Or get a helicopter and get ‘lowered down’ to the summit. I’ll guarantee you the chopper pilot will not land on the top.

I log this as a very successful hike, but in many ways, the mountain won.
I guess I’ll call it a draw.
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I went up the burned clear area just past Potato Patch - intersected the ridge at about 6000 and worked my way around following the ridge west then north. Coming down I stayed on the ridge until I crossed the old cutoff trail to Squaw Flat Spring.
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