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The I-17 Flex Lanes are in operation. :y:

Since Bruce hadn't been higher than 76 feet ASL in over a month, and certainly hadn't ascended more than that, I dialed back a 5k+ day plan to something that might ease beachboy into the mountains. The best laid plans ... blah blah blah ... I had forgotten that Coconino NF closes some roads near Flagstaff during stage 2 fire restrictions. People can still recreate wherever they want, because people don't pose a potential fire danger. But motor vehicles are prohibited from some dirt roads, because vehicles apparently do risky things that people do not do when not in the proximity of their vehicles. I would argue that this wouldn't stand up in court, or make any sense, except I think it may be factual that people in the proximity of their vehicles cause more fires than people not near vehicles. :-k

So, anyway, we quickly pulled up some HAZ maps and came up with other options that might justify the drive and wouldn't be a holiday weekend clusterflock. I offered up a 10mi/2kft option kicking the O'leary lantern, but ptown thought doubling it would be more fun. I have no immediate objections until I complain later. :)

I don't usually drive two hours to hike another town's version of Camelback, and apparently it's been a decade since I did this last (and first/only!).

It took about 6 miles to get up the hill, way more than I was planning. There's some interesting trail routing down below which seems to attempt to maximize mileage over efficiency, a theme we would later learn is common here. Heart is exposed, but it was a nice day so a little sun wasn't awful.

Sunset hits the burn area pretty quickly, but is still enjoyable and scenic. It has a couple of new switchbacks climbing out of the Down Under junction west of Little Elden.

Brookbank has new tread north of peak 8819 and takes a much wider loop north of 8747 and downhill west of there. We took an "offtrail" shortcut down the drainage between 8747 and 8819 (there was a nice old cut to follow) that saved about 4.5 miles off the new official Brookbank route.

From here, we discovered that Upper Oldham has been decommissioned from top to bottom. The first part follows a cut that used to be called Middle Oldham, and the rest of it is all new trail (there are apparently no longer lower, middle, or upper versions; just one complete Oldham). Formerly 2 miles, the route is now nearly doubled at 3.7 miles. Previously this was a steep trail. Now, the switchbacks are so plentiful and mild that they are ideal for ebike riders with dead batteries. Going uphill it was tolerable. Going downhill you'd lose your mind.

I'm not trained in trail building, but I'm naturally gifted in complaining about what clearly doesn't meet the quality of all those old skool CCC trails we have all become so accustomed to. This new trail cut makes a horrible attempt at a consistent grade, with numerous 10-15 foot stretches of staircase-type grade, followed immediately by a short flat or drop. There is no way to establish or maintain a comfortable hiking pace. It's probably a whole lot of fun whoopdeedoo on a bike though. And maybe that was the point?

Finally back up top, we took south Sunset up toward the summit before cutting across to the descent via Lookout. Bruce bitched more than my last 5 paragraphs, but I sort of enjoyed this stretch. Afternoon shade, cool temps, and a nicely worn path took us down quite efficiently. A refreshing change in trail design!

We took the north route on Fatman and missed a turn. Did a short XC before piecing together about 12 different unofficial user routes along the foothill slopes back to the truck. Almost certainly created by mountain bikers, these were somehow naturally created without unnecessary switchbacks. Weird.

Good to see 1-800 back out west. It was an enjoyable holiday weekend with a refreshing Sunday swimming in the back seat. ;) Whining aside, it was a great day, and I'd do it again!
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Fresh off vacation on the East Coast, I got an invite from Chums to escape to cooler country in Flagstaff. For various reasons, I'd had hikes with nothing but minimal mileage, elevation gain, or actual elevation for over a month. So, when he threw out a hike with 5,200+ feet of gain, I politely poo-pooed the invite. He came back with a more reasonable 11-mile, 3,200-foot gain hike, and I was in.

The plan was to drive into Friedlein Prairie to cut a bit more mileage off, but we quickly found a locked gate. So, back to the original idea to start at Schultz Tank, only to find another locked gate. Later searching showed that these areas close during the current Stage 2 fire restrictions. On to Plan C.

Neither of us are fans of the trail leaving the Elden Trailhead to the tower, so we headed over to the less busy Sandy Seep Trailhead, with plans to start up the Heart Trail and wing it from there. The burn is still quite evident up here, but you still get sections of unburned forest. We fashioned a loop, mostly of things I'd done before. On Brookbank #2, we smartly off-trailed and short-cutted Hill 8747 to save some mileage. It worked out. We were now starting our climb back up. The Oldham Trail has been completely rerouted going back uphill. It only touches the old trail in a couple of spots. Chums thought there were too many switchbacks. Me, being just a few years older, found them to be appropriate.

We bypassed the Elden Tower and hiked through the aspen thickness of the Sunset Trail to the Elden Lookout Trail. For me, this trail makes tired legs even more tired with all the rocks to negotiate.

Reaching the Fatman's Loop, we made the decision to go cross-country/follow use trails to get our way back to the start.

So much for taking it easy. Temperatures were mostly nice all day, especially in the shade or when the wind decided to blow. Thanks for driving, Chums. Good catching up.
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Met in PHX @730. Showed 8 going day before. Ended up squeezing 5 of us into 1 vehicle to Rocky Ridge TH. Took on a lengthy loop for this outing. Started with MTN bikers on Schultz Creek.

Took a break at Sunset TH. Sunset was the highest + steepest trail of the day. Added on a hill for a viewpoint. Then switched to Brookbank. Some fire devastation here.

Part of Brookbank has been decommissioned. This led to downed trees etc. Eventually connected up with Rocky Ridge. That trail closed out the loop. Lengthiest hike I'd gone on for a couple months. Old school Sizzler afterward.
 
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Evening hike starting at the 7500 trailhead on Elden Lookout Road. Hiked up the road to Brookbank trail start. Soon turned off of the new official Brookbank and onto the old Brookbank Trail. It has some damage and some deadfall in places, but is still easy to follow. I prefer this route over the new route. Pushed hard and made the Dry Lake Hills summit just before sunset, where I was treated to a meadow of pretty yellow flowers and a sky of ragged clouds. Took a bunch of photos. Damp and chilly too, very refreshing. Back to the trailhead at dusk.
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“New” Brookbank Trail hike after work. Started at the new trailhead on Elden Lookout Road at 7500 feet, where the Lookout road is gated. Walked the road and then went up Brookbank for the first time. Passed what turned out was the old Brookbank Trail (the official HAZ gps route for Brookbank), and just kept following this apparent new route. The new route goes much further west, is twice as long, and appears to be a sustainably (?) designed route with gentle grades for bikes.

Unnecessary trail construction commentary by middle-aged man: My issue with some of these newer trail designs is that trails become unnecessarily long (in my opinion…see Homestead Trail route in Prescott for a great example of this). I dealt with my contempt by cutting a switchback. Back in my day, we’d just hike straight up the mountain!

Views were great, sunset on thunderstorm clouds to the south, lots of penstemon, and millions of mullen plants forming a new forest in the wake of the Museum Fire. Lots of Hookers Evening Primrose opening at dusk. So many Hookers. Good hike, but had me wanting to check out the original Brookbank Trail.
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Dry Lake Hills loop on a beautiful summer evening. Seems to be a confusing number of trails that are not well marked in the Dry Lake Hills, so my names may be off here. I started on Rocky Ridge Trail at Schultz Creek Trailhead, then turned left onto Lost Burrito (?) route. Saw a garter snake and a solitary mountain biker as I ascended the roller coaster route of Big Bang Trail up the side of the mountain. Crested a nameless point (8402’) and then entered the Museum Fire scar, which although ugly and growing a nice crop of invasive weeds, allowed for great views of Flagstaff and Mount Elden area. Went through a grassy saddle and entered aspen forest at the junction with Brookbank Trail. Followed that for a bit too far and then backtracked to turn southwest onto an unnamed social trail (?). Followed this trail into a pretty green valley with a dry lake bed at the far western end of the Dry Lake Hills. Went over a little saddle and then made a very steep descent back to Big Bang Trail. Continued on Lost Burrito (?) back to Rocky Ridge Trail and the trailhead. A very enjoyable loop with good variety and great scenery, and one I’d do again.
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Sandy Seep Trail #129
Bruce switched out the grind up Elden Lookout Trail #4 I enjoy. This is a great alternative for those seeking a more casual approach to the Elden network.

Little Elden Trail #69
Intended to just hike the lower 0.85mi of this trail. 0.72 mi up it has been rerouted by the AZT thousand mile club. The former arduous 0.13mi/44ft heave is now a 0.5mi/44ft stroll around a pimple knoll.

Heart Trail #103
This trail has received a rare nice reroute. Two or three scenic settings stopped us momentarily to admire. We cached water bottles 1.9mi up in anticipation of taking the old shorter route down.

Sunset Trail #23
We took a short break at the junction and then headed up. Albeit torched in this center section of #23, the pines are back in business in under a half mile up. Passing Little Bear Trail #112 I rejoiced not having to go through the mental agony of its ridiculously long switchbacks.

Brookbank Trail #2
Heading down after lunch involved intense rough terrain. They've done a lot of work but there are a lot of fallen trees. The side limbs have been kindly removed in one spot on each to crawl over. Overall, I still enjoy the trail.
Bruce occasionally thinks to check the pine fragrance. Not sure about vanilla/Strawberry/whatever this round. It was a distinct flashback to Dad and I stopping in Flagstaff in '86 moving to Arizona. Stepping outta my Scirocco was the same impact pine fragrance, haven't noticed that in the last 37 years. It was 118° when we rolled into Phx, so at least that hasn't changed.

Upper Oldham Trail
Midway up it seemed like a remarkable pine environment. Pine shade ended and whining set sail.

Down n Out
The joy of the hike was over. Casual ascents make for draggy descents. The area is vivid green, with lots of medium-sized oaks. Nobody goes to Flag for oak foliage but there must be a nice hue when they turn.

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While I prefer steeper grades, this only got draggy a couple of times. It was a great hike to comfortably knock out ~20mi in July.
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Off to Flag to get into some cooler air. There was a 60% chance of T-Storms, but we were fortunate to miss the brunt of the storms. The first wave passed to our east, giving us a few sprinkles. The second two waves passed to our west, giving us some light rain for about half an hour or so.

From the Sandy Seep TH, we were one of just a handful of cars - a better, much less crowded option than the nearby Eldon TH.

I wanted to hike the complete reroute of the Heart #103 trail. The reroute is 1.5 miles longer, but the trail is much smoother, has an easier grade, and takes you through some more interesting areas. Me likey.

At the intersection of the Heart Trail and Sunset Trails, and after Joe was done with his distraction, we took a short break and continued counterclockwise (CCW) through the mixed burned and old growth conifers. In here, I spotted a large Whitetail buck, still in velvet.

On the Brookbank #2 Trail, we followed the well-worn path and either missed our turn or the trail has been rerouted. This is just one of a number of trails up here that have been rerouted since the fire. The section from Dry Lake Hills down to Eldon Lookout Road is an absolute nightmare. They may have given up on this section.

We did the road walk to The Upper Oldham Trail and noticed that they've cut in a new Oldham Trail (Middle Oldham) to the north of the road. It meets up with Upper Oldham.

Upper Oldham is in decent shape. There have been numerous washout events, so you need to keep your eyes peeled for the trail vs. wash areas. There are currently a dozen or so deadfalls that you can pretty easily bypass. This climb always sucks the air from your lungs.

Up top, we caught a great breeze to dry off and have a snack. From here, we cruised back to the TH, enjoying the downhill and checking out the old cut of the Heart Trail.

Temps ranged from 74 at the start to 86 at one point, and down to 61.5 during a couple of the rain events. Clouds kept it comfortable most of the day.

Great to get your head out of the oven every now and then.
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Headed high to get out of the smokin' hot heat and wandered into just smoke. It had settled around flag from the Backbone and probably the Slate fire. It cleared up quite a bit as the day went on.

We've done numerous versions of this hike in the past. The latest, last year after the Museum Fire.

Elden Lookout Trail climbs a steep 2500' in 3.5 miles. The upper half of this hike is better in the fall with the aspens. After passing the Lookout, we were on our way to the Sunset Trail. Here we passed numerous patches of sweet smelling Wood's Roses, that Joe thought were Cliff roses.

On Upper Oldham, we started getting into the burn area. The upside of the burn, is the views to the peaks. This trail drops down to Oldham #1 and then Brookbank #2

Brookbank Trail starts the climb and got a bit toasty. We got lucky and the clouds started rolling in as we hit Sunset Trail. A bit past the intersection with the Little Bear Trail, you start hitting the burn again. We were lucky enough to get about 45 minutes of light off and on rain.

We had the clouds for the rest of the hike, which made it more pleasanterest.

The hike down the Elden Lookout Trail is not a favorite. As steep as it is going up, it's tiresome with all the loose uneven rocks going down on tired legs.

I'll be back.
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Bruce had an unexpecting opening, so I checked quick feasible options. Temps of northern staple options were not looking great. The base of Elden 90, Weatherford 85, Kendrick & Sitgreaves 87, Wilson 105. The top of Mingus 88, Wilson & Casner 100. In the words of the famous Fraley... yikes. I pitched a nice Humphreys out-n-back via Weatherford with 67 temps in the upper stretch. The_give me heat or give me death_Eagle opted for whatever on Elden. I held back on suggesting Humphreys via Lookout Trail #4 and went with this seemingly sensible loop.

Due to wildfire smoke haze, we couldn't make out the iconic San Francisco Peaks until close to Flagstaff. It looked like the smoke ceiling was about 300 feet above Elden. We got a spot at the full TH as one left as we arrived.

The ascent up Elden is typically one of my favorite stretches of the loop. Not so much this round with temps that resembled Piestewa in May. Bruce requested a few mini-breaks heading up, so we didn't run out of sweat too quick.

Heading down the lookout road on the flipside was lined with incredibly fragrant Cliff Wood's Rose.

Noticed several isolated [ Yellow Columbine ] on Sunset Trail and some smaller species on Oldham. It seemed odd, scattered away from its typical perennial water source habitat.

Saw three [ Mule Deer ] along Oldham Trail #1. Then a large patch of [ Indian Paintbrush ] near Schultz Tank; old man eagle eye said he saw a few patches earlier too.

There is a fair amount of burn areas; most are mixed with healthy pines. The exception is a half-mile annihilated stretch north of Heart Trail #103.

We continued to see scattered Columbine. One species of wildflower seems to thrive each year. Two years ago, owl clover was everywhere. I would never have guessed Columbine to be widespread without a major water source, but it is lightly scattered for several miles.

The other oddity was the lack of hikers anywhere except the initial ascent up Elden, one group on Oldham, a family of three doing a Snowbowl-to-Elden shuttle run, and maybe two isolated hikers. The upper trails were 95+% mtn bike tracks, hiker footprints were rare. Wild savers pretending to be hikers were absent.

The hike eased into afternoon sprinkles and refreshing breezes!
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Started cool and refreshing on the Sandy Seep Trail #129. Then it was humid blah ascending Heart Trail #103. Which currently two criscrossing trails as it has been rerouted to an easier grade. We held to the old ankle buster route. Currently no typical signs of stay-off such as rock lined junctions, dead limbs over the old, signage, etc. In the upper portion we got lucky meeting David and Ryan!

Took a 5-minute break at the top. Even though the area is burned it is currently an intriguing color scheme and eerie spectacle. Descending was refreshingly cool!

In the burn area where Upper Oldham splits off, noticed 3ft saplings. Guessing planted? being only one year since the Museum Fire. Quick search results say 1-2 ft growth per year. Couldn't find if they grow faster when they're young, just that the taproots grow quickly. Natural or not, should help prevent erosion.

Back on Sunset Trail #23 we lunched overlooking the east. Several groups of mountain bikers paused briefly at the nearby junction. Various skills and ages, all friendly. Light sprinkles were cool for a while. Almost chili for ten seconds. No record crowds on any of the trails. Busiest on lower Elden and Fatmans.

Nice mix of trees on Christmas Tree Trail #160. Not blah as I remembered so I bumped from a 2 to 3-of-5.

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Minus the road walk due to Oldham trail closures it is a "nice" 18 mi / 4k option. Bruce negotiated some wacky traffic well, to and fro. Outta nowhere cutoff four times. The later two at once from both sides but lighter FU worthy vs the individual previous two.
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We started from the Sandy Seep TH to stay away from the more popular Elden Lookout TH.

Temps were in the 60's to start. I planned the loop to be CCW to get the exposed climb up the Heart Trail out of the way early. We were lucky enough to have cloud cover for the majority of the day, including this climb. About 1/2 way up the heart trail, we began noticing a new trail veering off from the Heart Trail. This ended up being a longer, more gradual reroute to the top. We ran into @hikerdw (David) and his son Ryan on their way down. Great to meet you guys!

Where the Heart Trail meets the Sunset trail, you begin seeing the devastation from the Museum fire. There were pockets and areas of green, but large areas of moonscape also.

Both Oldham #1 and Upper Oldham Trails are closed because of fire damage/washouts. So we hiked the road to the top. The road has also seen a lot of washout repair.

The Lunch spot, had a view off the rim to the east. The Virga, was no longer Virga out there.

We bailed on going to the top of Elden as the thunder cracked above and the rain and wind kicked in. It felt good to feel cold. The rain only lasted for 10-15 minutes.

We met the masses once at the Elden Lookout Trail until turning on Fatmans loop. From there we powered on the Christmas Tree Trail, with one more brief rain on the way back.

On the way home on I-17, we saw the Pig Fire and the 20 or so vehicles of firefighters trying to put it out.
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Now that the heat is on and the Museum burn is open I hiked part of what I did last July, and came back on the Brookbank and Sunset. Some of the area looks good, most of the slopes that are north facing and were covered in white fir and white pine, as well as some douglas fir and ponderosa pine, burned hot with nearly 100% tree mortality, thinned or not. The main difference may be the soil burn severity. Expect mud slides!

Other drier south facing slopes did not get hit as hard, and some areas look great. Basically, areas that were overflowing with dead material, which was typical of the areas with white fir, burned very hot. Shame, but these things happen.

I presume the GPS track I pieced together is accurate. At over 15 miles I know why I was so tired post hike.

While not on the hike, the est area of the project is the north slopes of the Dry Lake Hills with the eastern 1/3 or so being greatly improved by the activities.
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I passed through Flagstaff as recently as last October, on my way to see the fall colors in the Inner Basin [ photoset ] , but we took I-40 out to the east side, rather than driving through town. Seems like a lot has changed since we last drove through the west side, 18 months ago: There’s all kinds of construction along Milton Rd., and other buildings abandoned and fenced off. Downtown, there’s a new hotel across from Wheeler Park. Flagstaff is, unfortunately, becomming more city-like with each passing year. 😕

Today’s plan was to park at the bottom of Schultz Pass Rd. / FR 420, then hike a loop of Rocky Ridge Trail #153, bits of Lower Oldham Trail #1 and Brookbank Trail #2 across the Dry Lake Hills, FR 789 (aka “Little Gnarly”) to the Sunset Trailhead, then Schultz Creek Trail #152 back to where I started.

There’s a few small boulders sticking out here & there, but Rocky Ridge Trail #153 is in great shape. I saw precisely one blooming claret cup cactus and one indian paintbrush on #153. I didn’t see another flower until the prairie in the middle of the Dry Lake Hills. There were a number of slash piles in the first two miles, including the biggest one I’ve ever seen. 😳

There was plenty of shade the first two miles of Rocky Ridge Trail #153; not so the third & final mile, as it lies within the Museum Fire‘s burn area: The section along Mount Elden Lookout Rd. was a moonscape: One large tree was hollowed out by the fire, and many smaller ones were burnt down to 6″ stubs. 🔥

At the intersection of Rocky Ridge Trail #153 and Oldham Trail #1, there was a Forest Service sign announcing “Trail closed to all traffic including foot traffic.” Bummer. I headed up Mount Elden Lookout Rd. instead.

In a ¼ mile, at the bottom of Brookbank Trail #2, there was another Forest Service closure sign. I could have headed back the way I came with a low drive time ROI, or snuck past the sign when nobody was looking. But then it occured to me that I swear the Museum Fire closures had recently been rescinded! Luckily I had cell signal, and was able to scroll back through the Coconino National Forest‘s twitter feed, and there it was on April 28: Closure lifted. Sweet! 👍

Despite heavy fire damage, the dead needles in the upper reaches of the pine trees provided pretty good shade as Brookbank Trail #2 headed up canyon.

At the top of the climb, I veered right along a use trail, rather than head straight across the prairie. That took me to north end of the cattle tank which is the prairie’s highlight. Rather than taking pictures into the sun, my position gave me a quartering light, making the water & trees pop.

Little Gnarly had many large log decks, which are unstable, dangerous, piles of harvested logs being staged for transport. Give them a wide berth.

Rather than head straight to Schultz Creek, I split right towards Sunset TH, because I am a completist. 😏

From Sunset TH, I started down Schultz Creek Trail #152. Unlike the other trails, Trail #152 also had tons of mountain bikes. Thankfully, they were all considerate and friendly. I ate lunch and enjoyed a hiking beer — Brouwerij Bosteels Tripel Karmeliet, a Belgian abbey beer rated 99 out of 100 — in a shady spot next to Schultz Creek.

After lunch, I hauled the last couple of miles back to where I started. I was expecting Schultz Creek Trail #152 to be shadier, but it had plenty of sun too, and my wife commented on the burn I’d acquired. Great day and the best part was we were back home in Phoenix by 4:30 p.m.! 🍦

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Wildflowers Observation Isolated
Precisely one blooming claret cup & one indian paintbrush. Ironically, within feet of each other on Trail #153. Fair number of dandelions around the tank and down Little Gnarly. And some yellow flower I don't know along Schultz Creek. (Looked like a ground-hugging yellow holly.)

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Schultz Creek Pools to trickle Pools to trickle
Moist first half mile below Sunset TH. Next mile decent flow. Spotty the rest of the way down to whatever that trailhead is near the bottom Schultz Pass gate.
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Correctamundo jockeyed the highlights like a groovy beat. It seemed prudent to snub the Christmas Tree Trail in favor of an out-n-back on #4. Yikes, less desired. Rethink the rhyme if it's on your dime.
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Autumn Foliage Observation Substantial
Massachusetts' & Canadians need not apply. Likely prime next week if Hurricane Rosa doesn't wreak havoc on colorfest.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Dry Lake Hills Tank 26-50% full 26-50% full
plenty to filter but I wouldn't swim in it
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Trying to peep some leaves, we did a variation of a peep hike we'd done previously.

Up Elden Lookout Trail is a steep one to the saddle, with 2200' of gain over 2.5 miles. I still like going up this one better, than going down on the end the hike. The aspens from the saddle to the tower, were mostly at peak. The winds were blowing pretty hard up there.

Going clockwise we hit Sunset to Upper Oldham, then down. Sunset Trail gives you great views of the aspens North and West of the peak. If the storm has not screwed things up, they should be peaking this weekend. Oldham is relatively smooth going down trough a thick mixed conifer/deciduous forest.

Up on Brookbank and then back on Sunset. Hiking through the red and golden aspens on the Sunset trail, north of the tower, were the highlight of the high this hike.

Going down Elden was a rocky slog.

Perfect weather, albeit a bit windy.


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This is one of my favorite hikes in the Flagstaff area -- a loop hike up to Elden Mountain that starts and ends at the Sunset TH, on Schultz Pass Road. The trails on this hike are nice, and there is awesome scenery at many points on the hike.

We did the loop clockwise by starting on Sunset Trail #23. We followed the Sunset Trail almost all of the way to Elden Mountain, at which point we took the Elden Lookout Forest Road up to the summit. On the way back we followed the forest road to the turnoff for the Upper Oldham Trail, on the left side of the road. Unfortunately, there is no trail sign here indicating that it is the Upper Oldham Trail. The Upper Oldham Trail goes for about 1.5 miles back to the Elden Lookout Forest Road, at which point we took a left on the forest road. We followed the forest road for about 0.5 miles, and then turned right on the Brookbank Trail. This trail had a steep climb to a trail junction; the Brookbank Trail continues to the right and the Little Gnarly Trail goes to the left. At this junction we took the Little Gnarly Trail. Unfortunately, there is not sign indicating that you are on the Little Gnarly Trail; instead the sign says "Schultz Loop". We took the Little Gnarly Trail back to the trail head. There was one tricky part in following the Little Gnarly Trail -- you go into a meadow and have to make a right turn at a trail junction in the middle of the meadow, and there is no sign at the trail junction. From there you just continue back to the TH.

I enjoy the trails on this hike, and there is some awesome scenery at various points on the way. I didn't see any wildlife, but we came across a few mountain bikers and one bow hunter.

I must be living right: we got back to the TH at 12:15, and at 12:20 it started raining. It wound up raining 3 inches in Flagstaff that afternoon.
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decided to check out the dry hills area and found this little loop posted by @TheMazzicMan that seemed perfect, and was!

thought we would be hot, but lucked out with great weather. had some very nice forested areas and occasional views. Sierra and I both really enjoyed this one. again just beat rain by a few minutes!

schultz pass road is probably in the best condition i have ever seen it
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Finally got to do this route I attempted to put together last month. Beautiful day up there. Apparently, I came within smackdown distance of a brown bear. Never saw it but the trail cyclist behind me did. When we met at the Sunset-Brookbank junction, he mentioned it and seemed surprised I hadn't seen it. Brookbank-Little Gnarly junction didn't appear to be signed.
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Autumn Foliage Observation None
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This typically easy for me hike was among my most difficult, in the end it was among the most rewarding.

2.9 mi on Rocky Ridge Trail #153
Appropriately named compared to other tails in the area. I'd imagine some mountain bikers enjoy the course as the rocks have a firm hold making it more fun than irritating.

left 0.25 mi on Oldham Trail #1

left 3.5 mi on Brookbank Trail #2
Immediately climbs up into the Dry Lake Hills. The only good ascent picking up 700 ft in 1.25 mi. Lots of courteous mountain bikers passed by announcing their presence and the number remaining in their group.

right 0.35 mi on Sunset Trail #23 - Flagstaff
Pines thinned for this short 200 ft descent. Passed several runners throughout the day. Two chicks at the top of this trail got our attention minutes after passing. We realized how impressive their pace was considering they just topped out a 200 ft ascent.

left 3.55 mi for the entire Little Bear Trail #112
Dense pines returned. Then they thin before what looks like a monster descent. Views of NE Flagstaff are scenic, especially now with fields of yellow wildflowers.

I deemed this trail the "find" of the day 1.55 mi in, the next 3 miles slapped back hard. The monster descent joke was on us. This trail drops 1,118 feet in the subtle fashion. There was no quick drop. The grade is steady throughout. Most will enjoy, the dragged out switchbacks were just wearing on me.

Anyone that has hiked with me knows I can whine like no other. This slow down grade just wasn't pumping blood thus amplifying every ache along with lack of sleep. B & D absorbed more of my nonsense than any human should fall victim.

left 4.9 mi on Little Elden Trail #69
Bruce thought this would be a 500 ft ascent to Schultz Tank. It turned out to be a ridiculously subtle 350 ft. In all fairness these trails are designed for mountain bikers and ascending period was better than slow descending.

I mentioned earlier our friendly mountain bikers would give way to afternoon riders. Less announced their approach, none notified group number remaining and their speed was blazing at times. No issues, we're friendly aware hikers. Just pointing out morning nets better results in my experiences when hiking popular mountain bike areas.

continue 4.2 mi / -920 ft for the entire Schultz Creek Trail #152
This is a cool trail weaving next to the dry creek and nearby road. Pines provide shade throughout.

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Bruce knew I needed an easy course. As much as it dragged out and amplified various pains the net result was monumental. After the hike my left fist which had been clenching for months is now sometimes at ease. I can move my fingers outward for the first time. Albeit ever so slow, this new hope is a lot to take in. Huge thanks to B & D for putting up with the world's biggest baby. They monitor me, the footing, among other tasks helping me sit, stand and the constant struggle with my pack.

One improvement on hydration was a success. I have an idea that should put pack stress to rest and we believe a little change in nutrition will make it easier too.
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Wildflowers Observation Substantial
Substantial in areas with an excellent variety. Extreme fields of yellow looking down at NE Flagstaff.

dry Schultz Creek Dry Dry

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