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Tule Canyon Trail #122Globe, AZ
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First time to Tule Trailhead! The road to trailhead is in amazing shape! A sedan could make it as of today.

The area is affected by fire, but as this is my first time to the area, I have no comparison. As always seems to be the case with fire areas, some areas are untouched while others are decimated. The severely burned areas look like a Martian landscape with lots of red rock and not much else.

We saw not a single person on the trail all day!! Amazing! I love that! There were no other cars at the trailhead upon arrival or departure.

We made good time to the junction with Two Bar and decided to continue on to see the nearby ruins. So impressive!

Lots and lots of cows on the grassy hillsides surrounding the corral in the ravine. Not too many on or near the trail. We only had to persuade a group of six to move off the trail for us. Cowpies are everywhere. Thankfully, the cows were left behind once we started up the steepest uphill section of Tule trail. I felt that it was fine going up, but going down the same way on the return was not as fun with the loose gravel making some areas slippery.

We were happy to reach the flat area after the main uphill stretch. The fire really devastated in this area, and the forest service cairn trailmarkers are very helpful in knowing where the trail is. The views from here are already stunning, though not as great as from the Two Bar trail by the junction with Tule.

We continued along the flat area for a nice change before it was back to up up up to the two bar junction. The ridge trail here is very burned, but there are beautiful views in every direction. The ridge is quite windy. I was thankful for my windbreaker jacket!

I noticed on our way down that someone left a huge amount of campsite trash on the flat area. Sigh. I took what I could with me for disposal, but apparently I need to start carrying a trash bag. There were probably 20 15oz water bottles in various states of fullness (and grossness) along with a thermos, bowl, ruined tarp, and ace bandage. :(. There is a corral here just off the trail that we didn't see on our way up, either. There is also a tank on the flat area, but it was completely dry. As expected, there was no water anywhere on the trail.

A beautiful day to be out hiking! It is so serene out in the Eastern supes. ❤️
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Two Bar Ridge Trail #119Globe, AZ
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My first time on this trail. Jason once again volunteered to abuse his truck and we started up to the Two Bar Ridge Trailhead. I DIDN’T leave my camera on this back tire like I did the last trip. The entire trail is part of Superstition Wilderness AZT #19

The sunrise was really nice driving up and it was a little chilly starting off. The road was rough, but it’s apparently in better shape than before. The trail starts up immediately and keeps going up for over a mile, so the cooler temps didn’t really bother me.

Right off, you can see the terrible damage from the Black Fire. The trailhead and the entire trail up and along Pinon Peak was moonscape, with very little surviving. This area is ripe for some tremendous erosion if we get some heavy rains.

The first climb up gave some great views of Apache Lake and most of the eastern Supes. What goes up, must go down and so this trail goes down towards a drainage of Tule Canyon. Jason was hoping this beautiful area was spared from the fire, but as soon as it came into view, it was clear it did not. Climbing down this steep section, we were both thinking about the climb that will be required on the way back.

The fire damage was extensive climbing back out towards Two Bar Ridge. It magically seemed to stop or slow down once we made it to the ridge. The wind was relentless while on the ridge, but disappeared on the leeward sides. That’s probably how the fire was stopped at the ridge as well.

The ridge is an up and down roller coaster ride the rest of the way. We decided to hike in about 5 miles to the point the trail does the final drop down towards the Reavis Gap. We were not up for losing 700 ft only to turn around and hike back up.

We turned back and started the up and down torture session all over again.
We came across only one other human, a backpacker hitting the AZT section on the way back. Jason also pointed out a pretty large Salado ruins area along the trail too. Very cool.

A rough up and down roller coaster but packed with nice views and beautiful scenery (the parts that didn’t get roasted, at least).

Thanks for the invite Jason.
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Two Bar Ridge Trail #119Globe, AZ
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Andy and I were looking for a hike this weekend and when I found out he had never been out to the eastern Supes to check out a huge Indian ruin site I knew where we had to go. This area had been hit by the Black Fire over the summer so I was curious how the area fared and it turned out not so well. The trail starts with a 500-foot climb up to a ridge then drops into a valley only to climb another 400 feet to a different ridgeline. As we made it to the top of the ridge the wind was relentless and made it pretty cold and miserable as I kept the jacket on. After a bit, we bushwhacked and climbed up to a plateau to where the ruin site sits. I was last here 2 years ago and the ruin is as big as I remembered with numerous rooms and pottery shards everywhere! We spent some time enjoying the ruins before heading back. The wind had died down a bit on the way back and the climb back up to the first ridge dragged as we were both tired at this point. We passed one hiker heading up the ridge on the way out and that was it for the day. Got back to the truck and took the scenic way down the Apache Trail.
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A group of us (by FS request) checked the AZT damage from the Black fire. This included the north end of Two Bar ridge and Cottonwood canyon. The damage is mostly burnt scrub and parts of the canyon survived very well. Of course, the issue will be rain and the subsequent high erosion that will cause much more damage. We cleared one large deadfall.
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Two Bar Ridge Trail #119Globe, AZ
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Day Two:
After the Pinyon hike yesterday I didn't feel much like doing anything of effort so I decided to skip the whole camping routine and sleep in the car. Not pitching a tent meant no need to transfer all my sleeping gear into the tent.
(Due to my ongoing lower back issues, sleeping on-the-ground requires a number of specifically-shaped pillows... thus the reason I don't backpack with Tracey, I just facilitate transportation to/from trailheads.)
That said, one would think it would be a painful experience sleeping in the car, but weirdly enough I found in both the 2007 4Runner and this 2018 4Runner the passenger front seat can be made quite comfortable using a few small pillows and just the right seat-back adjustment. In fact I never woke in pain with a need to change positions like is usual in the tent and actually felt well-rested.

Having gone through more than I should have of my food provisions last night, my only choice was eat almost everything left with nothing during the hike, or a lighter-than-normal breakfast and carry two PB&J sandwiches in my pack for my lunch-time-with-Tracey... I can't have her eating alone now, can I?

Enough of that, it's time to hit the trail!
It was a bit of a surprise to get a text from Tracey when she was setting out from her camp near Walnut Spring, which meant we both had cell service at the same time. With that knowledge and her average speed I had a good idea where we would meet and frankly didn't want to go quite that far so I pulled out my tablet and read for a half-hour before setting out. When I did set out, I was in no hurry, and thus my mealy 1.7 mph pace over the course of the hike.

Around a mile out the trail began its descent, bringing back not-so-fond memories of our return climb up the slope a decade ago. And I thought, just like back then, it would be slow-going, particularly for Tracey... especially since she texted "I'm dying!" while traversing "The Ditch" (1K descent & 1K ascent along AZT #19).

On my FS Topo map I noticed the old trail was off to the West, sometimes a hundred yards, other times even farther, so at a point where the old barbed-wire fence was down I took a side-trip out to the old route and due to being closer to the edge of the ridge, I found the view better than along the existing route. So why not still use this old route? Maybe because it appeared to be steeper and no switchbacks? Not that there were any true switchbacks on the existing trail, just winding a bit.

Ok, now time to climb up the other side. As I crossed a series of drainages I took a look at my FS Topo map and noted the old trail had climbed sooner on an easier slope before following a higher contour, which appeared high enough to avoid the deep drainage crossings. When I reached the saddle I glanced back and could almost make out where the old trail may have come across and thought it would have saved the extra climbing.

I remembered from 2014, this is the saddle where we had dropped back to in hopes of camping but gave up due to no-see'ums and a host of other reasons. Based on my pace I thought I'd have met Tracey by now, only to realize I was still a quarter-mile short of the waypoint of our actual turn-around spot. And wouldn't you know it, less than a quarter-mile later I meet up with Tracey.

After a short early lunch break, we set off on the return leg. Nothing too eventful, just a descent, spotting a few deer on a ridge spying on us, the long slow ascent up the rocky slope and following the contour around Pinyon Mountain back to the Two Bar TH. At some point my GPS quit due to 'new' Energizer MAX batteries giving up in less than 3 hours of use! I had installed them at the start of the day because my rechargeable batteries from the day before were a bit too low for the whole hike. I guess I should have left them in and carried the 'new' batteries as the spares.
(When I got home I checked the rest of the 8-pack of Energizers and they are all below spec. I only had them a month, but of course without a receipt I guess from here on I should test new batteries right away)

The back down Forest Road #83 was nothing near the slow crawl up except for one sharp turn at a drainage, which due to the approach from the opposite direction made for the distinctly uncomfortable about-to-tip-over feeling. But in just one quick sphincter-tightening moment it was over and the rest was just slow-and-easy.

All in all, I'm sure this is the last time we'll ever be back to this trailhead. Twice, each a decade apart is enough.
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Two Bar Ridge Trail #119Globe, AZ
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Finally rolled out of my bag about 6:00 a.m. It was a nice 39 degrees, drank my coffee while in my sleeping bag with my top off (my tent top that is). Wasn't sure I even wanted to leave but all good things must come to an end, so packed up and was on the AZT heading towards Roosevelt Lake by 7:00 a.m.

The trail was enjoyable UNTIL the descent into what I was told is " The Big Dip", or "The Ditch"..which was a bitch. I'm officially renaming it. I imagined a pain seeker planned this section of the trail and is now laughing his pumpkin off knowing what fun it is for everyone. So much for my plan to "make good time". After scootching down the trail to the bottom it was another mile back up the other side. Yes, I texted Mark, told him I was dying, but that was a little dramatic.There was a lot of cussing, heavy breathing and no stopping or I was afraid I wouldn't get going again. BUT, I did have enough energy to take a side trip to check out another prehistoric heritage site. :-$

Eventually made it to the intersection of Tule Trail, found an old blanket under a tree, sat on it to rest and eat lunch. The remainder of the trip was a breeze. Met Mark about 3 miles from Two Bar TH and we made it back to the car by 12:00.

I don't feel the need to hike the last small section of AZT19 through Cottonwood Canyon as I think I have day hiked that area in the past. One 10 mile section of passage 30 remains for me to knock out, then the Central Passages will be complete.
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Another fabulous foggy hike in the Supes! I think a collective desert sigh could be heard by anyone out on this day. It was a slow start messing with the rain gear, but the jacket and pants were necessary with the occasional wet burst and soaked vegetation. It was very muddy for a bit also. Pinyon Mountain had clouds racing across it when I was there. Apparently it was the 25th Supes summit for Jordyn with some pups and John10s was the most recent. I stopped for lunch past the Tule Tank, where a hunter passed in a side by side. Not thirty seconds after a very wet piggy emerged from the brush and trotted down the road. There's a weird track on my route where I followed it, trying unsuccessfully to get a pic, but it disappeared back into the chaparral. I'll need to go back sometime to finish off the southern section of the Two Bar Trail.
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I haven't done much hiking in the eastern Superstitions, and this one looked like a good option before the summer heat arrives. This was a longer variation of the Tule Loop route, and we hiked clockwise from Tule Trailhead, which was empty as we got started. The first mile was relatively flat along Tule #122, then it was a steady climb for the next few miles. We had great views of Two Bar mountain for much of the hike, and Roosevelt became more visible as we gained elevation. I kept an eye out for the arch along Tule but didn't notice it until we were above it and past it...by the time we spotted it, it was tough to tell it was an arch from that angle.

There were plenty of wildflowers still blooming, especially along the last mile or two before the Tule/Two Bar intersection and again on the approach to Pinyon Mountain. After turning onto Two Bar, we gave up some of the elevation we'd gained before the trail started ascending again toward Pinyon. We passed one other hiker resting in the shade just south of the peak, and that was the only person we saw all day.

The off-trail portion up to the peak was straightforward...no major obstacles or sharp brush along the way. I found the azimuth mark on the way up, and the full length of Roosevelt Lake came into view along the ridge. There was a small register at the peak, placed in 2017 with a single sheet of paper inside...the only HAZ name I recognized was the most recent entry, Jordyn W. from last November.

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We ate lunch and enjoyed the 360° views from the summit while battling aggressive lady bugs, and we found the Pinyon benchmark and two reference marks before we started down the ridge east from the peak. The descent wasn't bad, either...a little more brush to dodge on that side, but not overly steep. We reconnected with the trail near an AZT gate and then hiked to Two Bar Trailhead and down FR 83. Long stretches of the road were in good shape, but a few spots were washed out and deeply rutted, so high clearance 4x4 is definitely needed to drive to that trailhead.

The last five miles went quickly on the jeep roads, though the final half mile was a little slower as we left the road to cut back to Tule TH. Not much in the way of unique wildlife today, but we did scatter a lot of cows near the windmill and Schoolhouse Tank at the end. I was happy with the choice of locations today and want to get back out to this area again soon...there's a lot more to see. Coincidentally, I went to Sheep Mountain in the Mazatzals last weekend, and I noticed the guide for Tule Loop was authored by GPS Joe.
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Headed out to the far eastern Superstitions trying to escape the heat. Turned off on 83 and headed up to the Two Bar Ridge TH. The last half mile of 83 is a white knuckle drive up a steep scree narrow road. It's gotten a lot worse then what it was so much that I used 4L in a couple of sections. Started up the Two Bar Ridge Trail as it's a 500 foot climb right at the start. I woke up tired and feeling a bit blah yesterday and climbing up this first section was tough, I had no legs at all. Made it up to the first ridge, rehydrated under a nice shade tree and continued on. I was originally going to hike back up to the huge set of ruins Scott and I checked out last year, but as I was starting my decent down into Tule Canyon I spotted an interesting looking grassy area near the bottom of Tule Canyon that I decided to check out instead. This area was no where near the trail so it was bushwhack (probably not the smartest thing to do during snake season) through grass and multiple dead and alive brush and trees. Made it over to the semi flat grassy area, although interesting, no signs of any type of ruin as I had hoped. Hiked over to the edge of the cliff and just relaxed enjoying nature a bit before heading back. Bushwhacked back to the scenic Tule Canyon and started the 600 foot climb out of the canyon. It was a warm climb up and without having my legs today it was slow. Took a break in the shade once I reached the ridge and headed back down to the truck. Came across an AZT through hiker on the way out and that was it for the day. This was probably my last Superstition hike until fall, the temps are getting way to warm for any type of hike, but it was still good to get out.
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Superstition Wilderness - AZT #19Globe, AZ
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Stars seemed like they finally aligned when one of my friends set up a camping weekend at Oak Flat, and I took advantage of the proximity to run my next AZT passage. Dropped off a car at the end in the AM, back to Oak Flat, and then took my Jeep up to Rogers Trough. When we got to Rogers Trough, we found that my friend whose car was at the end left his key back at camp, so we had to scramble. Decided that I'd just run it myself and he's drive my Jeep to the end later, and head south on the trail.

Got a late-ish start, so the question was not if I'd need the flashlight, but for how long.

Reavis Trail had a lot more deadfall than when I was last up there, smashed my knee on one while carelessly climbing over it. Felt like it might be an issue with ~25 miles to go at that point. Just before Reavis, I took my first (and only) break to fill up water and make some electrolyte drink.

Once on Reavis Gap trail, it was new territory for me, and with how rocky it was, it was hard to do more than 3mph or so. Two Bar got a little better, but at this point I was on a 10 hour pace, and strongly considered bailing at Tule. Didn't get any response to texts by the time I got to the junction, so decided I had to follow through.

Things got a lot smoother (for the most part) once on Two Bar though, and outside of the two climbs, 4mph was the norm. Started getting dark in Cottonwood Creek, and about half way down or so, it was dark enough to make it a little tricky. Saw a few groups of campers on this stretch.

Back on the Jeep road, got a text from my friend who decided he wouldn't be running after all, but left my Jeep key in a spot so secure that you certainly wouldn't see it unless you happened to be shining a light in the general direction of the Jeep. The uncertainty of not knowing whether I'd still have a car when I got to the end made things a little more exciting.

To my surprise, it was still there, and all was good. The 2nd half turned out to be much faster than the first. Inventory of nutrition consumed was a single Nuun tablet and a single caffeinated Gu gel, and a little over a liter of water.
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We set up a somewhat involved morning shuttle for this one and hiked from the Tule trailhead to our vehicle that we parked about a mile before the Two Bar Ridge trailhead. We parked at an obvious pullout/campsite, just before the road gets steep and a little more attention getting. I had driven all the way to the trailhead years ago with my Xterra, but walking a mile downhill on the road at the end of our hike did not seem like that bad of an option and we didn’t mind being cautious. I am sure the 4Runner would have been fine though.

The hike from Tule up to Two Bar did not go too bad, but it was a bit of a workout at times, as I had remembered and it was a little warm for the pups, as there was not much breeze in the drainage used to gain the ridge. However, once we topped out so to speak, we were greeted with a great breeze that would keep us from getting too warm for most of the day. There was a little funky looking water in the tank near the top, we let the dogs lay in it to cool down, but tried to prevent them from drinking too much of it. We found a great campsite shortly after hitting Two Bar and took an extended break there in the shade. Two thru-hikers passed us as we recouped in the shade. The rest of Two Bar Ridge Trail to our next break spot went smooth. The trail is in maybe the best shape I have seen it in through there and to the trailhead as well. We took an extended break under some pinyons at the nice campsite before the final climb to the trailhead. The final little climb before you start traversing over to the trailhead did not go too bad, but it was a little warm at times and we did do one quick break for the dogs in the shade. Pretty much downhill from there to the trailhead and our car parked a mile below it on the road.

The wildflowers were pretty spectacular along the hike. Maybe one of the better desert blooms I have seen. Someone in our group who appreciates flowers more than me, said it was the most diverse display of desert flowers they had seen. It was warm on a few of the climbs, but the wind kept us cool on the ridge. I have a lot of nostalgia for this area, so it was really nice to get back to this little corner of the Supes. I am not sure how one’s expectations can be exceeded for an area they have already been to, but the hike and half loop exceeded my expectations.
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One of the better desert blooms I have seen in awhile, no poppies, but tons of the usual suspects and some more I am not familiar with.
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It's back to Robert Hall again. It's been 2 years since I was up on Two Bar Mountain. The last time I was worn out from fighting the wind that day. I turned back because I thought the summit was another mile. Turned out to be just another 350 feet. I came back to hike that 350 feet. ](*,) Once at the trailhead I realized my camera was still on the kitchen table.
The phone took over...sort of. There were two Javelina hunters at the trailhead when I arrived. I started out in front and never saw them again. The temperature was 38 degrees but felt nice since there was no wind hiking up Tule trail. The breeze kicked up on Two Bar Ridge but felt good hiking in the sun. The off trail ridge hiking isn't bad but the rocks under the grass tip you back and forth just for fun. After locating the cairned trail on the mountain I followed it to Peak 5212. The trail continues on past the summit. I wonder where it leads. :-k My GPS maps shows 5212 as the summit. It's a cool area walking through the trees with hardly any wind and no one around. I've been to the high point on Two Bar Ridge near the Reavis Gap trail and back up on the mountain so I think I've finally got this one covered. One the trip back down the ridge to the trail I finally located the ruin. There are pot sherds galore in one area but I missed locating the source on the previous 3 trips through. The ruin but it's half buried strew about so no in good shape. I cruised back down in the breeze and didn't take my jacket off until the last few miles. Perfect conditions in the eastern Supes.
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 Joined Nov 18 2005
 Phoenix, AZ
Two Bar Ridge Trail #119Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 15 2022
nonotTriplogs 514
Hiking11.00 Miles 2,600 AEG
Hiking11.00 Miles
2,600 ft AEG
 
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The goal was to finish off this corner of the Superstitions, I had yet to do the section to the Tule intersection.

It was a very windy day. 15-20 mph winds at lower elevations and 35-45mph winds when on the exposed ridgeline. It made for interesting hiking conditions. I passed several AZT backpacking groups that almost appeared to be in full artic gear. (The winds were somewhat chilly.)

The patchwork left by the fire was not terrible, as grass has taken over everything and at least is reducing erosion. The portions that survived untouched remained fairly nice.

I didn't enjoy all the elevation change. I don't think 100 yards of this trail was on flat ground.

As FYI, the road to the trailhead is spoken of in other triplogs as if it is the most scary rd in Arizona. If you have 4WD and high clearance I didn't really see many problem spots. It is definitely not the easiest road to drive though. There is one damaged area of road with a 3 ft erosion undercut but you can currently skirt it on the left...barely. If the USFS doesn't do something about that spot in another year or two the last mile to the TH will likely only become accessible by narrower ATVs once the surrounding ground collapses.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water less than max Tule Tank 51-75% full 51-75% full
looked muddy but still pretty full. Cows have been using it, so be prepared.
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50 male
 Joined Mar 14 2016
 Gold Canyon, AZ
Two Bar Ridge Trail #119Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Jan 02 2022
00blackoutTriplogs 187
Hiking11.04 Miles 2,482 AEG
Hiking11.04 Miles   7 Hrs   11 Mns   1.54 mph
2,482 ft AEG
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I've been wanting to check out these ruins for a couple months now, so Scott joined me to go explore the area. The Two Bar Trail has an immediate 600 foot climb before descending into Tule Canyon and then another climb up to the ridge. From on top of the ridge, it's a couple miles to the turnoff, then a bushwhack (minor) up to the ridge to the ruins. The ruins are a decent size and in pretty good shape. There is an outer wall on the cliff side and numerous rooms within the site. Found a couple of grinding holes and pottery shards were scattered everywhere. Spent about an hour at the site before heading back as it started to get late. Made it back to the truck as the sun was starting to go down. The weather did not make this hike easy as the winds were blowing nearly 30mph the entire time with higher gusts up on the ridge. The temperature was in the mid 30's so with the wind chill, yeah it was cold. I think at one point I couldn't feel my face it was so numb. :lol: Spooked a buck up near the ridge and a doe at the ruins that was pretty much it for wildlife.

Thanks to Wally for answering a couple of questions I had on this one. :app:

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Tule Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full
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67 female
 Joined Nov 17 2008
 phoenix, az
Superstition Wilderness - AZT #19Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Backpack avatar Apr 03 2021
trekkin_geckoTriplogs 4,660
Backpack29.60 Miles 5,125 AEG
Backpack29.60 Miles2 Days         
5,125 ft AEG
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john and i wanted to get this one done before it got too warm
@juanjaimeiii generously shuttled us to rogers trough saturday morning - thank you!
he also hiked in three miles with us before turning back
got going around 0745 with temps already warm enough for t-shirts
down rogers canyon, up reavis ranch trail
took a quick break at the saddle, then down to the ranch
quite a bit of burn in this area, but better once near reavis ranch
stopped where reavis creek crossed reavis gap trail, then up the first big hill
filtered water at pine creek, where we talked to two thru-hikers and their two section buddy
we would cross paths with them a few more times
originally planned to camp at high point, so we loaded up with water
two bar has some wonderful views, but also two big uphills
we passed the thru-hikers, as the buddy was struggling with the temps
the last climb was a challenge for me; think i just needed some fuel - felt fine after a lara bar
lower on water than we wanted, too early to stop, windy conditions and just one exposed campsite had us reconsider the original plan
we decided to press on to cottonwood spring, and rolled in right at dusk
filtered water, found a decent campsite, set up and ate dinner in the dark
the thru-hikers camped nearby, arriving about an hour after we did
overnight temps were warm
up around six, we took our time since janie wasn't going to pick us up until 1400
got going around 0800 after a third cup of john's coffee and set out down cottonwood trail
flowing water, very lush corridor with saguaros on the hillsides above, pretty area
lots of good water sources, both in the creek and in several stock tanks
road walk for awhile, then on the thompson trail
some ups and down while going around several drainages, finally finishing at the bridge
we were able to get janie a text to pick us up earlier, and had time for a dip in roosevelt lake before she arrived
big first day and an easier second, which is how we often do these passages
solid hike with several new trails for me, once on two bar ridge
nice variety of terrain
new tent and quilt on this trip
pack weight was 14-18 pounds, depending on how much water
brought the right amount of clothes and food
need a couple little gear tweaks and better organization
always good to hike these passages with john
thank you for arranging the shuttles

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Cottonwood Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Pine Creek at Reavis Gap #117 Light flow Light flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Reavis Creek at Fireline #118 Light flow Light flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Reavis Creek at Gap Trail #117 Light flow Light flow

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Thompson Spring Quart per minute Quart per minute

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water 3 out of 5water 4 out of 5 Top Tank 76-100% full 76-100% full
several stock tanks had good water
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Apr 03 2021
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68 male
 Joined Mar 16 2008
 chandler,az
Superstition Wilderness - AZT #19Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Backpack avatar Apr 03 2021
johnlpTriplogs 5,208
Backpack29.60 Miles 5,125 AEG
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Been thinking about this segment for quite a few years. Logistical nightmare. Came up with the idea of getting a shuttle ride at both ends. JJ and Janie volunteered to drive us to Rogers Trough and pick us up at Roosevelt Lake. Thanks to both of you!
JJ hiked with us for a few miles from Rogers Trough TH then had to return home to take care of some business.
This is a long tough segment, but rewarding in the end. We pushed hard the first day and made it to Cottonwood Spring just as it was getting dark. We found a pretty decent campsite, then set up camp and ate in the dark. Beautiful breezy evening.
Took our time breaking camp in the morning as we had plenty of time to only hike about 8 miles. The Cottonwood Creek area is really pretty with water access in numerous places. The cottonwoods and sycamores have new bright green leaves.
The final stretch has more AEG than anticipated and temps were rising. We pushed through and finished off the hike by working our way down to the lake for a refreshing dip.
Great trip. Thanks Kelly! :)
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Mar 21 2021
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64 male
 Joined Mar 11 2003
 AZ
Two Bar Ridge Trail #119Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Hiking avatar Mar 21 2021
wallyfrackTriplogs 1,691
Hiking11.00 Miles 2,983 AEG
Hiking11.00 Miles   5 Hrs   37 Mns   1.96 mph
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@chumley put an idea in my head and I needed to check it out. There is a nice bench west of Pine Creek that I had never been to. I wanted to make it there before things heat up. Next week is already planned out so today was the day. Stiller took it easy on me Saturday and I was feeling good. I decided to press my luck and hope I wouldn't get a whammy. The hike up the Gap trail went well. Walnut Spring got a complete makeover. The drop down to Pine Creek (700 feet) was more than I thought but there was no turning back. The bench was nice but apparently not in the right zip code. I saw several through hikers on my way out. One woman we saw yesterday at Rogers Trough going in. She must have camped at Reavis Ranch and was hiking down Two Bar today. The breeze was cool and it never really heated up.
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 Joined Nov 20 2012
 Phoenix, AZ
Pine and Campaign Creek, AZ 
Pine and Campaign Creek, AZ
 
Backpack avatar Mar 06 2021
BiFrostTriplogs 1,257
Backpack18.43 Miles 4,612 AEG
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Quick overnight into Pine and Campaign Creek area. We started from Campaign Creek trailhead towards Reavis Gap. At the Reavis Gap AZT junction we dropped packs and headed over to Walnut Spring which is about 1 mile round trip. The spring water looked a bit murky but filterable if needed. Also the area around the spring did burn but fortunately not the spring itself. After that it was just a short hike down to Pine Creek for nights camp.

Everyone setup camp and then headed off on various hikes to kill the afternoon. I joined Chumley for some off trail fun in Pine Creek. We were looking for a supposed route through rough terrain and we did manage to find some cairns and what looked like old road/trail. However, it was difficult to follow and would fade in and out. We followed it best we could to the upper start of Pine Creek and where it meets the Fireline trail Then from there we followed Pine Creek drainage back down to camp. I was really interested to see if the Pine forest in the upper creek survived the fire. I was very happy to see that this great stand of Ponderosa did survive intact despite extensive fire damage close by.

Once back at camp we enjoyed a nice night around the camp fire. A few AZT thru hikers came by after dark and then some more in the morning. In the morning we had a leisurely wake and hike back out to the trailhead. Very relaxing overnight with relatively low miles than the usual backpack weekend.

water 1 out of 5water 2 out of 5water less than maxwater less than max Pine Creek at Reavis Gap #117 Light flow Light flow
small pools and some light flow but good water

water 1 out of 5water less than maxwater less than maxwater less than max Walnut Spring Dripping Dripping
murky water in the box but could filter if needed
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52 male
 Joined Sep 18 2002
 Tempe, AZ
Reavis Gap Trail #117Globe, AZ
Globe, AZ
Backpack avatar Mar 06 2021
chumleyTriplogs 1,993
Backpack18.10 Miles 4,445 AEG
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I've been busy lately but it's been a while since I've carried everything on my back for a night so when 9L mentioned this one it sounded perfect. I haven't been out this way since the fire(s) and was saddened to see that Campaign Creek is absolute toast. The Gap is the same steep, rocky climb as always but largely unburned and I was happy to see that. We took a side trip down 2— to check out the spring and scope future camp sites in the area.

As we crested the ridge and got a view down in to Pine Creek we were happy to see little burn damage at the bottom of the canyon, though the hillside to get there had been torched. The campsites were intact, and we were also happy to find a pool of water suitable for filtering at the crossing. Along the hike in, we had begun to wonder if we would have to hike a bit up or downstream to find any water, so this was a relieving moment.

Once camp was set up, Karl and I opted for an exploratory afternoon loop following an old road/route that parallels the creek up high on the west side. We were partially successful. A few sections of miserable overgrown brush connected other sections of well-cairned and easy to follow route. Ultimately we reached the Fireline trail (link it!!) which we took for a short stretch before heading back toward camp in the bottom of the Pine Creek drainage.

The first mile along Pine Creek is as nice as any in the Superstitions. There's no water here but the valley features a beautiful ponderosa forest, unaffected by fires. It's a rare remaining island oasis of what once was. :cry:

Back at camp enjoyed a pleasant night by the fire. Over the two days we chatted with 4 thru-hikers -- none of which had any idea where they were or what they had seen, nor did they care -- time and miles are all that matters :roll: . Amongst them, somebody who didn't feel the need to bury their feces. Yay. I hope they're proud of their pin or button or whatever they get for finishing.

Sunday morning, Karl and I made an attempt at finding a better place to access the route we found Saturday afternoon, but came up empty. So we headed back down the hill, catching up with the others about halfway. We added another for the end of the hike as a friend of Lee's had hiked up in the morning to meet us. It was a fun and quick overnight in the Supes. Glad to see there are a couple of spots that didn't burn down.
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 Fountain Hills,
Pinyon Mountain - Supes, AZ 
Pinyon Mountain - Supes, AZ
 
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DixieFlyerTriplogs 1,374
Hiking14.20 Miles 3,618 AEG
Hiking14.20 Miles   7 Hrs   8 Mns   2.73 mph
3,618 ft AEG   1 Hour   56 Mns Break
 
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I was wanting to bag a peak today, and this had been on my radar screen for a while, so off I went.

I followed the route that @hikerdw did on this one, except that we went a bit off-trail up to the summit of Pinyon Peak.

We did a clockwise loop starting from the Tule TH: we went first on the Tule Canyon Trail, then the Two Bar Ridge Trail, and then some forest roads almost all the way back, then an easy off-trail to get back to the TH.

On the way up to the summit I channeled my inner @FLYING_FLIVER and located the elusive azimuth mark. At the summit we located the triangulation station, aka benchmark, and located 2 reference marks. But wait, there's more: we found some wires that appeared to have been used for a height of light.

I thought that the views at the summit were among the best in the Supes, and we hung around there for a while.

Most any vehicle could make the easy drive to the TH. I thought that the trails were all in really good shape and were easy to follow.

It was near perfect weather for a hike, and we did not encounter any other hikers on the trails.

I did not see water anywhere out there, so make sure you bring enough if you are hiking or backpacking in this area.
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